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~Sauron~:
My team has been robbed. . . . . .No doubt about it.
England team keep getting cheated n cheated. . . . .

How many times has your team being robbed at the wc?

☻ajali☺:
as well as we were robbed in 1966!  

I call it justice. :-D

Spot on. what goes around, comes back around

What's the diff between some posters on here and the english press. buncha cry babies. let the dissallowed goal rest already

it's not the 1st time that has happened in footie

England pulls one back

See quality football, germany 2-0 england. absolutely wonderful footie. Is this the same podolski sauron and cohorts termed as mediocre

My neighbors and colleagues go hear wain, should england fail to beat this young german team

Combination of strength and balance. sublime

Klose !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

marutimon:
I'm sorry but Drogba is no 1. The best striker in the world by far. Most complete and deserves all the accolades he can get.

On what basis is drogba better than villa. let's leave sentiment out of this.

Classic case of medicine after death. had they shown the same aggresiveness and willingness to win against portugal and brazil, the outcome

would have been favourable.

dayokanu:
This is the wrongest time for Germany to play the 3 kittens. All the players are far too young. Schweinsteiger is even doubtful and probably Kroos would play

If they line up Neuer- Lahm-Friedrich-Mertersacker-Badstuber/Boateng-Khedira, Schweini/Kroos- Podolski-Muller- Klose,

Only 2 players Friedrich and Klose would be over 27.

If England cant beat this Germany then Nigeria should just colonize England for bringing the game to disrepute,

Surprisingly. I think this german team has better cohesion and flair than their 02 and 06 predecessors.

Ozil,cacau and Podolski have being more than impressive. whether they have the ability to overcome difficult challenges/teams is what

remains to be seen.

~Sauron~:
Various factors. . . . .
If the quality of the team-mates in the club is better than the country, then they will have a shitty tournament.
Look at Rooney. . . . . .I don't think he can replicate his blistering form this season in the tournament - There's no Valencia and Nani to lay it on the plate for him. All we keep seeing in 3 Lions are Lennon, SWP and Milner whose crosses cannot clear the first marker.

while I agree with the bolded part to an extent, it doesn't apply to all situations such as in england's case.

Do you realise that England has one of the biggest talent pools in the world. Rooney,Gerrard,lampard,lennon, Milner, just to name a few. 

we all know that these players are world class and magnificent at their respective clubs. in reality, Rooney, ideally has an unfair advantage as he

is presented with the luxury of being sorrounded by far greater talents than most stikers in this torny.

The Cameroonian team and eto'o or Pienar and the bafana bafana would have been a more appropriate case study to strengthen your argument. simply put

in yoruba terms- "olowo kan larin otoshi mefa".

kay_pumpin:
I can pardon Largerback for everything but that rubbish he did in the last game. . .

What excuse does he have for keeping Echiejile on the bench when he was fit?Afolabi was a disaster in that game against the Koreans and he already gave that indication against the Greeks.

Infact the whole team reeks of mediocrity.

Did you also notice how he substituted a striker for another striker at a period when we desperately needed a goal, when sacrificing ayila or any

other md would have been a better and more appropriate decision.


Truth be told, largerback made several tactical mistakes in the torny that ultimately played a part in our downfall. however players must share

some of the responsibilities as well. save for enyeama,shitttu,yobo and uche, our players were absolutely awful.

in conclusion, There's no clear cutting edge between Amodu and lars. both coaches are tactically inept. we desperately need a truly disciplined, passionate

and [b]capable [/b]manager.  enough of wasting the nations resources on mediocres already. of all the second tier teams at the WC, SE appeared to have

been the worst.  that is a sad reflection of how far we have come.

Siasia , in my opinion, is the best candidate for the job and should be given full support and time by the nff and fans to build a formidable squad

and restore the nations lost glory.

Why do some players fail to reproduce their club performance for country. that is the 38th mystery of the world.

Fatkubu, torres, messi (even tho he is having a decent wc, but still), 95% of english and french players. . . . .

~Sauron~:
He's always having a bad tournament.

Euro 2008 - Torres had a bad tournament!

Confed Cup - Torres had a bad tournament!!

When will he stop having a bad tournament?

He only shines at liverpool. spain can easily do without him, easily.

if it was up to me. I would rather start pedro ahead of him upfront to partner villa

~Sauron~:
Jalether, how time flies. . . . . .
Remember these topics where some folks are saying Torres and Etoo are better strikers than Villa?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-264210.0.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-253406.0.html

Even that fat specimen called Ibime said Torres is miles ahead of Villa.
Buncha soccer illiterates!!!

hey watch it, you can't be dissing my fellow chav like that

good times, I'm I the only one that thinks the quality of post and general discourse has dwindled over the years.

At the time the post was created, eto'o and david villa were head and shoulders above their peers. the cameroonian could literally score with his

eyes closed back then.

I still don't get the logic behind how torres is better than villa. all the opposing posters should tender a public apology for the blasphemy

buzugee:
didnt they get whooped by switzerland ? spain that is

If you think spain were outplayed by switzerland then you don't know footie. switz merely counter-attacked them.

In over two years, I haven't seen a team force spain to defend and sit back.

chile can hold their head high up regardless of the outcome of this match.

Iniesta !!!!

Chile has dominated this game yet they are behind. footie ain't always fair

Nilmer starts for brazil. ope o

Hugo Gatti retired at 44, same as Neville southall, Zoff and banks both retired at age 41,

David james will be 40 next month yet he is still outperforming his younger and fitter competitions.

besides I never disputed the fact that goalkeepers form is often affected as they age, however, the rate at which a gk's form drops is the issue here

as sauron pointed out, lehmann has never really been exceptional even as a young goal keeper. i don't get the hype here.

I will NEVER (atleast for now) compare enyeama to Brad friedel,Van der sar,schmeichel, Cech et al, due to obvious reasons . . . . . when I see quality

players/gk's I can't help but doff my hat to them.

^^ are you implying that muki na ashawo

eldee:
Dayo argued that his age and the proximity to the end of his career was responsible for his loss of form, you argued that that excuse is not tenable because Van Der Sar is 39.

A determination of what you consider as the right age to retire will tell us how unreasonable for Lehmann to lose his shirt to Almunia at 38.

40 according to my estimation is a right retirement age. it's common sense/knowloedge that goalkeepers have longer career.

tell me how many of the highly rated (overrated in lehmann's case) goal keepers were consistently awful towards the end of their career.

Sagamite, I get the feeling you are just taking the piss. everyone, even my non naija peeps, knows Osaze

was one of our worst performers at the world cup.

objectively, no one including yourself can dispute that fact. on what basis did osaze impress at the torny. . . . .  assist,goal (s), overall productivity.

eldee:
Simple question, what's the average retirement age for goalkeepers??
Precise answer please . . . no stories.

What is the relationship between gk's retirement age and lehmann dropping form to an unacceptable level . get back to me when you have a reasonable

aswer

dayokanu:
jalether, Its about saying it as it is?

Roger Milla played till 42, Maldini played till 40 any player who retires or lose form before that age is dud, Did I get you right?

Oliver Kahn the greatest goalkeeper of this generation retired from all footballing activity at 39, Gigi Buffon one of the greatest is 32 and already slowing down while David Seaman a remarkable dullard played till 41.

Lehman was dropped for Almunia in 2007/2008 when he was 38

Are Roger Milla and Maldini goal keepers. poor comprehension skills is often a pre-requisite of old age. how old are you now, you must be 48

eldee:
Oh you're so smart . . . so now because Van Der Sar is still playing at 40 you think all goalkeepers must wait till 45 to retire??
Is your middle name Odelomolatile??

He left Arsenal and retired a year later, doesn't that tell you that he was nearing the end of his career??

All retard on nl are gayners. that is an established fact and you happen to be a member of the association.

Nearing your retirement is not a valid excuse for absolute mediocrity, how many goalkeepers around his age

made kindergatten gaffes, consistently before they retired. Oliver kahn,dino zoff,schmeichel et al maintained an above average form till they retired

if enyeama gets stick for being human once in a while, why should a "perceived prem quality gk" get a free pass for committing far

greater sins. you will dispute that assertion only if you don't believe in the theory of " form is temporal and class is permanent".

rasputinn:
What nonsense are y'all still vomitting?just because Enyeama was wrongly positioned for the Korean free kick,he's not premiership quality  ,complex no go kill una sha

You dey mind them.

going by some moronic argument on here. all premiership gk's are not up to standard as they all make bad goal keeping decisions.

If mediocres such as almunia, fabianski and foster play in the almighty premiership (sarcasm) then surely enyeama, who is million

light years better, is a right premiership quality.

dayokanu:
^^^ Age

Lehman was dropped at what age? close to 39-40

van der sar is 40 and shows no sign of aging. why hasn't he been replaced by kitkat?

Brad Friedel at 39 is still going strong. btw lehmann was dropped to the bench at age 37. if i'm not mistaken

gk's usually have longer career and get better with time. so age shouldn't be an issue here.

when did you start bumscuking gayners. oh i forgot, the gk in question is german.

Lehmann supporters club can rave all they want

the million dollar question remains. . . If lehmann was premiership standard and world class goalie then why was he dropped for

almunia and later offloaded by the club? it's important to note that almunia's goalkeeping skills is mediocre at best.

ThiefOfHearts:
what does Cameroon need to stay in?

I feel bad for CIV

They are already out. from all indication, ghana is the ONLY african team remaining in the competition.