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Barristter07:


The Bible said humans are sharers of flesh and blood. It means you have full flesh and blood. ( heb 2:14) share in that context only means there are others with flesh and blood too, not just a person.

Christians becoming sharers of divine nature means they have that exact fullness , just as Col 2:10 said. Alongside Jesus.

The point you are not admitting is Jesus was given that nature , just as other Christians. Only the Father wasn't given what he has, that is why he alone is the only true God.

You strike the bull's eye, mehn!

Courz:
Unfortunately in JW, they are not taught to test what they are taught to see if what they are taught is True. They are taught to listen to Watchtower, accept and obey anything they are told whether what they are taught makes sense or not from a Human standpoint. Watchtower requires Blind obedience. JWs are told all the time that Jesus and Jehovah trust the Governing body. Therefore, they should trust the Governing body too. You can see that they are told something completely opposite from what the Bible says.

As a typical Cult, Watchtower never tolerates Questioning. It is forbidden to question their leaders or correct them. But the Bible says you must question. Questioning is part of the the testing process the Bible demands. But in JW, once you start to question the leadership or try to correct a wrong doctrine or opinion, you will be marked. The Elders will be ordered from above to watch you like CIA Agents. You will be branded an Apostate. If you saw something from the Bible that contradicts the doctrines of Watchtower and you went ahead to write a letter to the Headquarters of Watchtower in order to correct them, you will be disfellowshipped. How do I know? It has happened to a JW, Carl Olof Jonsson (I have forgotten his position he held in Watchtower, someone who knows should remind me) Who was trying to correct the doctrine of when Jerusalem was destroyed. He even wrote a book titled Gentile Times Reconsidered explaining the correct date by using the Bible and Archaeological evidence together. Every archaeological evidence points to 586/587 bce. Archaeological evidence that was preserved since the time of King Nebuchadnezzar. A former Governing body member actually did his research, going to libraries and examined archaeological evidence but found no supporting evidence for 607 bce but instead found 586/587 bce. Ordinary Google also confirms the archaeological evidence. Only Watchtower teaches that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce. Just because someone did thorough research and saw the fraud in the doctrine and wanted to correct them, they decided to get rid of him. Why? Because it is forbidden to correct them and because the correction will expose the fact that Jesus never selected them in 1919. It will also expose the fact that 1914 is wrong and made up and that their authority over them is a fraud. Watchtower doesn't want JWs to know about this. They will see the fraud. Their imaginary calculations from 607 bce leads to 1914 which was supposed to be the time the world would end but the world didn't end on that date, they eventually changed it to when Jesus came. And from 1914, they got the date 1919 which is supposed to be the date Jesus selected them as the One True religion. Once a JW knows all of this, they will leave the Cult. Many found out about this Disfellowshipping story, found out about 607 bce and eventually left the Cult.

2 kings 25:8-10,25-26 dey co.nk your IBERIBEISM.

Although Nebuchadnezzar took many captives from Jerusalem to Babylon, he left others behind in the land. He also left the city itself standing. For years after this initial deportation, those left remaining in Judah, “the lowly class of the people,” lived off their land. (2 Kings 24:8-17, from which the IBERIBEIST got his 587BCE calculation which 2 kings 25:8-10,25-26 PROVEN is NOT accurate.

oteneaaron:
Lol

You sound jittery.

I thought as a JW, you must be ready at all times to defend your faith.

With all the holy spirit you're filled with, all you could do was run away from thought provoking questions.

SMH

oteneaaron:
Lol.

He still can't answer!

See him jumping from pillar to post!

He said he was filled with holy spirit and the proof is that he has the inert ability to say the TRUTH no matter how bitter it was.

But upon further investigation, we have evidence that shows that he and his organization have been spreading LIES for more than the 120 years since they have been in existence.

So which Holy Spirit is he and his organization filled to brim with, that would make them spread such blatant lies for more than a century?

Why should an "Holy Spirit" spread lies?

Isn't that instead, proof of an Un-Holy Spirit?

Watch him beat around the bush without any concrete answer.

It is his Modus Operandi.

brocab:
Max everybody is obviously here for a good reason-they are already reading, then at least allow them to just read through the pages from each of us.
Stop getting yourself all worked up over nothing: forgive and walk on, it's that simple.
After reading what Courz wrote, I now have a clearer view-how it must be difficult for you, to not be allowed to question any elder about any bible verse that concerns your faith in the Watchtower.

Our faith is much different to yours-we don't need to go to our elders, Pastors whatever, everything concerning our faith, when we want answers we open up our bibles, it is God's Word isn't it.
We don't need to ask for assistance, it's already written down-all the Lord expects us to do is mediate on His Word Day and Night.
Max do yourself a favor pick up a bible, and start reading it, you may notice the large differences between both teachings.
Open that door Max: this is a life time freedom-you won't have to answer to anybody who calls themselves elders, why? because you will already have the answers from God Himself through His Word.
{1 Timothy 5:17} Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching.
These are the elders who are preaching and teaching the Word of God. consider them worthy to be a brother in Christ..
But if you begin reading the bible, the Lord will give you enough wisdom to know between the sheep and the wolves 'just by listening to their preaching and teachings:
You don't have to ask anybody about the scriptures, you will have it already written down, at reach, every time you choose to open up your new bible.
Don't get yourself all worked up over it-showing your anger doesn't help you-pick up the bible and Learn about Born Again-and why Jesus had separated them from the rest of the world.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy go and convince your cohorts because to me you're beginning to sound like a lunatic to me!

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool

[s]lost fraud jw janosky

you keep lying and blaspheming
saying that the Christian Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible is 3 deities
which is 3 god's

you have also called the Christian Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit of the Bible
"3 dogheads" and you have called the Christian Holy Spirit of the Bible "the ole demon ghost"

Mar 3:29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.[/s]

brocab:
{John 17:22} I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one.
You don't even believe in this verse-when Jesus claims He is One with His Father, so how can you be one with them, when you don't believe in the word trinity, so it would be impossible for you, to believe, the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are One.
You JW's believe Jesus spirit is separate from Jehovah's spirit, so how does your spirit connect?
Your knowledge of the Holy Spirit, is some type of a active force, so how does a active force connect-it would be like a electric shock.
If you were honest within, and told me you were a stoner, I would believe you.

brocab:
{Luke 3:16} John answered and said to them all, “As for me, I baptize you with water; but One is coming who is mightier than I, and I am not fit to untie the thong of His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
{Luke 11:13} If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?”
So now we have the Father and the Son given their Spirit {One Holy Spirit} to the believer's. it's no good arguing against the scriptures janosky you are acting us a fool trying.
{John 1:33} I did not recognize Him, but He who sent me to baptize in water said to me, ‘He upon whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining upon Him, this is the One who baptizes in the Holy Spirit.

Brocab,in which sentence of your Luke11:33 or John 1:33 did Jesus call holy spirit your deity or say worship it?

Oga, carry your mumu doctrine go to dustbin.

achorladey:
WAILINGS peddler you are at liberty to peddle MUMU and No get sense alongside with your SHAMELESSNESS that has no boundaries.

oteneaaron:
Lol

You say the only reason for the decision na "bad belle"

What does that mean?

The link you shared clearly stated this -



It is also quite funny that the link you shared mentions that a Catholic Priest , is one of the people who are criticizing the Govt for stopping the free annual grant.

In that link you also shared, Selbekk who is the Editor in chief of the Dagen - a "Christian Daily" is also critiquing the Norwegian Govt for the stopping the free annual grant.

For a religion which claims to be only true religion, and which sees other religions as part of Babylon the Great, it is quite surprising to see you guys leaning on the support of a Catholic Priest and the editor of a "Christian Daily".

I thought you guys were "no part of the world"?

Because why would you be fighting so hard for free money from Satan's World?

Even to the extent of garnering support from a CATHOLIC PRIEST?

Does that not mean you and your organization are HYPOCRITES?

achorladey:
Na the many problem for the WEREY PEDDLER and the MUMU and NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER to sort.

The stuff did not faze them. Dem carry am go court.

oteneaaron:
But you guys lost the case in court.

No more free money for Watchtower in Norway plus you guys are no more recognized as a religious community in Norway.

I still ask, WHY.

Why did Norway stop giving you guys the free annual grant?

Why did Norway de register your organization?

brocab:
What Bible verses support the Trinity?
The word “Trinity” never appears in the Bible, but God reveals himself throughout Scripture as one being {Deut 6:4, John 10:30} in three persons {Gen 1:2; Matt 3:16–17, 1 Pet 1:2}
The Trinity exists in 3 persons
{Isaiah 48:16}
{Matthew 3:16–17}
{Matthew 28:19}
Now open your eye's Janosky and wake up to yourself-the scriptures don't lie against the truth..

oteneaaron:
So please tell us, why did Norway stop you guys from getting their annual grant?

achorladey:
Imagine he does not faze them one of their GODS made mention of it and said the DEVIL is persecuting them and members should expect more.

When they receive money from Satan's agent, it is not persecution, when they stopped the flow of money it becomes persecution

When JWs demand for their rights through the legal process werey people won't stop throwing tantrums and WAILING.

Nah them werey personal pocket the Norway State collect grant give JWs?

achorladey:
You are the one peddling cry everywhere so far

achorladey:
Aemmyjah added to your peddling Courz tasty poops, stupidity and unreasonableness you still dey peddle LIES too as confirmed by your brother in Jehovah

Ken4Christ:
Ken4Christ @9:51pm, 2nd January,2023.
Doctrines are not supposed to change. But they do because ministers later discover truth that were not revealed to them before.

Second, they do, the moment you stop building your doctrines on the law of Moses which has been abolished.

Doctrines will hardly change when you stick to the teachings of our Lord Jesus and his Apostles.

Courz:
Mad MaxInDHouse, SubPlot Janosky and Fornicator Aemmyjah, your Watchtower advises you JWs to respect Rapists in your publication below. They even say Child P@rnography is NOT Child Sexual Abuse in your Elders manual. That's why they allowed this JW Elder who is a Freemason to rape children and produce Child P@rnography until the victims reported to the authorities.

An organisation for Rapists by Rapists!

Courz:
Weed smoker SubPlot Janosky, Why is Watchtower covering up Pedophiles, chooses to do nothing about this particular Pedophile who is a Freemason, threatens victims to keep their mouth shut or else they will be disfellowshipped, removed an Elder who decided to investigate the case, orders Elders not to cooperate with the authorities and even condones Satanic Rituals while children are being sexually abused by numerous JWs at a time?

What kind of religion does this? A religion from God or Satan? Answer Weed smoker SubPlot Janosky.

Kangaroo Lawyer of IBERIBEISM practicing subjudice on this public forum.

This guy doesn't think with his brain.

Ishi akun

Courz:
Watchtower has joined the False religion gang in covering up Child Sexual Abuse, Threatening victims who speak out with Disfellowshipping and remove an Elder for investigating.

Courz:
Watchtower just loves their precious Pedophiles. They are now in bed with other religions with numerous Child Sexual Abuse cases. Where is the difference? All False religion!

Courz IBERIBEISM turning ment

Does the step mother and Son sexual immoral abusive practice @ 1 Corinthians 5:1 in your Bible mean the Corinthian congregation is false religion?


Did the Inquirer Newspaper publish any so-called JW form for your fictitious claims?

Courz IBERIBEISM superglued to sub judice?
Kangaroo lawyer of IBERIBEISM.

achorladey:
All this tantrums, Werey, Mumu, no get sense, WAILINGS peddling because you want to validate the child sexual abuse within your religious organization

EnumaElish:
All the jw's who have received the warning and still support and defend the wt/jworg corporation are complicit in the wt/jworg CSA coverup.

advocatejare:
Ogbeni answer simple question

What church do you attend,

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Oga, stop your childish tantrums.

oteneaaron:
Lol.

My question isn't about Jesus - moreso, who told you that I despise Jesus?

Is it because I said that his story is an allegorical myth that is not original and was copied from older religions before Christianity?

The question here is WHY?

Why did the Norwegian Government block your annual grant and deregister your organization?


Can you answer this simple question?



Lol.

Stop Lying.

It completely "fazed" you and your organization.

If not, why did Watchtower hire a lawyer to fight the Norwegian Government in court?

Why would you guys fight for free money from "Satan's World"??

achorladey:
NO GET SENSE and MUMU PEDDLING PEDDLER combined with WEREY and ATHEISTS peddling whose SHAMELESSNESS has no bounds will keep going about peddling PAINS and WAILINGS despite not holding you back from bearing your Jehovah’s name

Maynmann:
Very good, Jehovah loving organization is also on the list bwahahahah.

Most of the doctrines that are ahead of you have more population than Jehovah witness, let’s divide the population with your 1.7 and let’s see where it’s more incessant

How do you compare JWs 1.7% & your friends 97%?

Mayment of IBERIBEISM

achorladey:
They will find link with those they call first century Christians to cover their ways

Awon werey Atheist must WAIL IN SIFIA PAINS.

The same people bearing Jehovah's name, nah the disciples talking,Acts 15:14 & 2 Chronicles 7:14, Isaiah 43:10,21,Jehovah talking.

madegreatbygrace:
'And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true , in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.'

I John 5:20

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


fraud jw janosky:

you love to continually lie and blaspheme, calling the Christians Father and Jesus and Holy Spirit of the Bible: "3 deities" whch means 3 gods,
you have also called them: "the 3 dogheads", and you have called the Christians Holy Spirit of the Bible: "the ole demon ghost":

Mar 3:29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Please state the Bible verses where your own Jesus worshipping 3 persons deities.

Or get lost!

Maynman:
Thank your virgin loving yahweh you know that your organization is filled with rapists, that’s why you cover it up because of “family name”.

Maynman:
keep defending your rapists elders bwahahahah
Without these baldheads you perish

oteneaaron:
Are you sure of these things you have said?

Can you please tell us why the government of Norway has stopped giving you guys free annual grant and also deregistered your organization?