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AntiChristian:
Were did i say sex is the only means of reproduction? I mention sexual and assexual reproduction! Go and learn basic Biology!
Thank God you defined it well! When it comes to animate things it's either sexual or assexual reproduction!

The second definition is not applicable to Jesus with respect to God.

Ken4Christ:
Psalms 9:17
The WICKED SHALL BE TURNED INTO HELL, and all the nations that forget God.

If hell is grave, why did the verse above says that its the wicked that will go there?

There is no hiding place for your lies.

Psalm 9:17 correct translation (screenshot PROVEN evidence):
"The wicked shall return to the grave"
Oga Pastorpreneur, recall Genesis 3:19
Yahweh said "Adam return to the dust/grave"

Acts 2:27
"because You will not abandon my soul to Hades, nor will You let Your Holy One see decay."

Acts 2:27 & Psalm 16:10 "thou shalt not leave my soul in hell" KJV

Cross References
Psalm 16:10
"For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol, nor will You let Your Holy One see decay."

Did Peter the apostle reference Psalm 16:10 that Jesus Christ was in hell where his resurrection happened?

Mumu pastorpreneur TWISTING the holy scriptures.

Steep:
Is God a Spirit creature? Can God be created?
If Jesus has the fullness of the essential nature of God (theotetes) that makes Jesus the uncreated creator.

Did your Bible calls born again "new creation"?
Born is synonymous with creation.
Your Trinitarian mentors agree wholeheartedly.

Your Bible,Colossians 1:15 (KJV) calls Jesus "the first born of every creature" but your Trinitarian mentors are up in arms to TWIST the holy scriptures.

Psalm 90:2, did "God born the mountains?"
Therefore, born in the holy scriptures is created/creation.
Therefore,God's first born Jesus Christ is a creature.
@Genesis 49:3, is that first born a creation?

Why shift the goal post @ Colossians 1:15?

Steep:
The word "essence" does not just mean quality but the important quality.
In Christianity when we say God's essence we actually mean his deity or Godhood.

No
Not "in Christianity" but according to Trinitarians who invented the words "essence" & "deity" which are NOT in Greek holy scriptures .
Both words "Essence and deity were inventions of men (screenshot evidence) to TWIST the holy scriptures.
The Greek holy scriptures calls Theiotes "divine nature." No Maggi,no pepper.
Not godhead,not deity, man made pepper and Maggi.

Steep:
That is what theoites mean. Jesus embodies the Fullness of God's deity.

Steep:
For your screen shots, what is the Greek interlinear of colosians 2 vv 9?

Steep:
How?

1 Corinthians 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

Going by your logic the divine nature of God was put under Jesus feet?

1 Corinthians 15:27
For the Scriptures say, “God has put all things under his authority.” (Of course, when it says “all things are under his authority,” that does not include God himself, who gave Christ his authority.)


Did God the Father give Jesus his son authority to possess the fullness of divine nature?
Colossians 1:19.

Trinity na man made scam.

Steep:
Jesus is both man and God, as man all things were subjected to him but as God he is already beyond all things.

peggywebbs:
That shows the amount of lies that is being told. They tell you how to worship, who to call a brother,

peggywebbs:
what you should celebrate, how you should pray, they even dictate the bible you can read and the materials you can study...that's mind control.

Matthew 6:9 & Ephesians 3:14-20, Jesus and your own Bible has taught me to say "Amen" ONCE to conclude my prayers,not the noises and tantrums disturbing the peace of your neighborhood , ordered by your gods of men,in the name of prayers
Galatians 4:8-11,JWs won't disobey your own Bible and celebrate feasts of pagans rebranded as "Christmas, Easter" etc.
JWs use different translations of Bibles in our personal study & JWs published materials.
On my comments on this forum, you would find several Bible Versions.
So, your claims are spurious.

peggywebbs:
You can't search for truth elsewhere, you can't ask questions, you can't have a different opinion and you still continue to defend this lifestyle.

You who have searched for truth you have never lived by the principles of Matthew 6:1-9 & Ephesians 3:14-20, espoused by your own Bible & marking pagan feasts your fellow 3 deities Pastor called "idolatry"

Shebi I should ignore Matthew 6:9 & pray to your 3 deities?
Please keep your delusion to yourself jare.

peggywebbs:
I already did my research. You should too and stop defending religion and know about your God. Stop letting people brainwash you with a false doctrine. Every body comes up with different doctrines on one same bible.

peggywebbs:
Yes what they left out is that, they got their translation from an already translated version of the bible and did everything to remove verses they don't agree with.

jantman:
Restores the true name of God to Jehovah?

WHAT A BIG LIE.

Jehovah is not the name of Almighty God. The real name of Almighty God is JESUS.

By the mention of His name, every kneel must bow and every mouth shall confess that Jesus is the Only True God.

Barristter07:
They don't have such mouth, what you see is materialized

Jesus was discussing what defiles a MAN, is a materialized Spirit a man ? Unless Jesus is a materialized Spirit , this doesn't apply, but if he is a man. Emusan declare to this thread if You admit Jesus defecate that fish he ate.

Luke 24 :39-43 dissolves any idea of Jesus is an human.

brocab:
I have already got you pinned down, with plenty of evidence: as time has past, you still haven't learnt the scriptures.

brocab:
But the name of Jesus's God was not Jehovah: Jesus preferred to God's Name as Father.

Brocab post:
"the Bible was made available to the people in general, and the name “Jehovah” became more widely known. In 1611 C.E. the King James or Authorized Version of the Bible was published. It uses the name Jehovah four times.{Ex. 6:3; Ps. 83:18; Isa. 12:2; 26:4} "
He concedes that the name "Jehovah" is in his KJV Bible.
The screenshot allows the internet to expose brocab mumu.
Brocab HATED the name "Jehovah" while his 3 deities worshippers continue to publish the name in the holy Bible.
Enough said

brocab:
This is truly the sign of madness.

brocab:
You can't help yourself, you are writing random scriptures: that has nothing to do with your conversation?
You are on drugs aren't you.

brocab:
He is right about the witnesses, the Watchtower began from the Freemasons which are connected to the Catholic Church.

brocab:
You are still out of order: your brain is not functioning properly'

Dtruthspeaker:
As you have exercised your right to try to defend evil works and workers!

brocab:
You are doing it again, writing down random verses, are you are stoner, you can't seem to keep up with the times.
Now I am not convinced you actually know what you are talking about, and since you don't search the scriptures like most believers prefer to do, just maybe anytime you fill like straighten up a little, tell your demonic spirits to hush-and then you may wonder why you are arguing over scriptures, you really haven't got a clue about.
Why don't you try and prove the Lord and God doesn't exist, But Jehovah does-instead of beating yourself up, over scriptures you haven't the slightest idea what they all mean.

brocab post:
"With all of that said, it is not crucial to the Christian faith for the proper pronunciation of YHWH to be known."

Jesus said : "I will write on them the name of my God", Revelation 3:12.

Dtruthspeaker:
There is no self deceit in pointing out that bandits (JW) and herdsmen (Catholics) are both Satan's children.

Their evil works are seen!

brocab:
No one is interested in Watchtower literature, it's no good arguing over something you haven't the slightest idea about nothing that comes out of your mouth interest any of us-I am sure your brain is out of order:

Dtruthspeaker:
You missed your target! Catholic is jws twin church of Satan.

Ken4Christ:
Notice the phrase, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. It didn't say, suffered as in past tense. It says suffering as in present continuous term.

Ken4Christ:
You are fighting against the truth at all cost. It shall never be well with Rutherford and Russell.

Ken4Christ:
The physical fire consumed their bodies but their souls are in hell.

The two fires are not the same.

Deceptive doctrine of men passed off as scriptures.
The confused pastorpreneur says the fires of hellfire is different from the fires of everlasting fire.
Yet,he is desperate to convince this forum that everlasting fire @ Matthew 25:41 & Jude 1:7 is the same place of torture chamber

Ken4Christ:
Jude 7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, SUFFERING THE VENGEANCE OF ETERNAL FIRE.

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Dishonest pastorpreneur & him 3 deities worshippers TWISTING of holy scriptures.

Let's expose your pastorpreneur buffoonery further in the 2nd & 3rd sentences of Jude1:7.

1st point: Is Sodom and Gomorrah existing today?
No,not all !
"Gave themselves over to fornication", CORRECT.
2 Peter 2:6 & Luke17:29, Jesus and Peter said so.

2nd Point: Your 3 deities worshippers rendered their translation of Jude1:7 in futuristic terms- this is dishonest, DUBIOUS & TWISTING of holy scriptures.

3rd point: Jude 1:7 occurred in the old testament. Jude wrote chapter 1 verse 7 in past tense.

Contemporary English Version & New International Version rendition of Jude 1:7 (screenshot) agreed with Jesus Christ @ Luke 17:29

Oga Pastorpreneur, your deception exposed.

Steep:
How?

1 Corinthians 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

Going by your logic the divine nature of God was put under Jesus feet?

1 Corinthians 15:27"Under his feet"= within Jesus's control & authority.
Colossians 1:19 & 2:9,Is divine nature within Jesus Christ control & authority?
Colossians 1:19,Oga Steep,nah who give divine nature to Jesus?


[i]I said it before and must say it again.
"Oga Steep HATED Colossians 1:19, John 17:7, Luke 10:22 & 1 Corinthians15:27.
Jesus said it, Luke wrote it, John wrote it & Paul even wrote the same truth.Oga Steep no agree.
/i]


Yet,God his Father has no God.

Oga Steep,Revelation 3:12 & John 20:17,does Jesus Christ have his God?

Ken4Christ:
Does this verse below also refer to grave?

Why are you people so grossly dishonest?

Matthew 25:41.
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, YE CURSED, INTO EVERLASTING FIRE , prepared for the devil and his angels:

◄ Jude 1:7 ►

In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.


2 Peter 2:6
And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an example unto those that after should live ungodly;

Oga Pastorpreneur @ 2 Peter 2:6 & Jude 1:7, your own Bible says it's the example that must befall evildoers.

Oga Pastorpreneur @ 2 Peter 2:6 & Jude 1:7, did your "Everlasting fire" turn Sodom and Gomorrah to a place of everlasting torture ?

Were the evildoers of Sodom & Gomorrah turned to ashes by your "everlasting fire"?


This pastorpreneur Ken4, is grossly dishonest, but Jesus Christ exposed him @ Luke 17:29.


Luke 17:29
New International Version
29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them

brocab:
You have given me these verses: why? {John 20:17 & Revelation 3:12,21} they don't match up to anything?
This happens all the time with JW's, when we, write down scriptures, we, then explain there meanings, but you JW's don't, you return to us scriptures that doesn't line up with anything.
Those verses above have nothing to do with the subject: we have written about, you really haven't a clue about the scriptures, you just look up any verse and start writing them down, you don't even know why you are writing them down, let alone how to explain them.
But this is quite common within the Watchtower: with all the elders I have sat down with, sharing the scriptures, they do it all the time.
Once they know someone knows the Word, they jump from one verses to another: and the conversation we had doesn't even make sense any more.
This is obviously a sign-from God warning us true believers that the Watchtower is full of religious people who haven't the slightest idea who God is.

Revelation 3:12
The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God"


According to Jesus Christ,who is his "my God" in Revelation 3:12 & John 20:17?

Brocab your IBERIBEISM is extremely extraordinary.

brocab:
With all of that said, it is not crucial to the Christian faith for the proper pronunciation of YHWH to be known.

brocab:
Both the Old and New Testaments, inspired by God, use generic terms for “God” and “Lord,” including El, Elohim, and Adonai {Hebrew} and Theos and Kurios {Greek}
If the authors of Scripture, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, were allowed to use these terms, it is not wrong for us to refer to Him as “God” or “Lord,” either.

Brocab is very dull, itibolibo.

Bible translators do not claim inspiration of holy spirit.
God did not send them to use generic terms.

brocab:
In conclusion, it is highly unlikely that “Jehovah” is the correct pronunciation of YHWH. Further, it is far more important to know God through faith in Jesus Christ, than it is to know the correct pronunciation of His name in Hebrew.[/color]

Brocab said " Ancient Hebrew did not use vowels in its written form"

For the same reason given by Brocab, "Jesus" is NOT the name you the son of God.

Oga wey no bent, continue deceiving yourself.

brocab:
. The Jehovah’s Witnesses emphasize the use of Jehovah to the extent that any other name or title for God is viewed as borderline idolatry or outright heresy.

brocab:
In the Hebrew Scriptures, the name of God is recorded as YHWH.
So, where did the name “Jehovah” come from? Ancient Hebrew did not use vowels in its written form.
The vowels were pronounced in spoken Hebrew but were not recorded in written Hebrew.
The appropriate vowel sounds of words were passed down orally.
As a result, when ancient Hebrew is studied, scholars and linguists often do not know with absolute confidence how certain Hebrew words were pronounced.
This particularly becomes an issue when studying the Hebrew name of God, written in the Hebrew Scriptures as YHWH, also known as the tetragrammaton.