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benodic:
I find this assertion so funny.
I don't really like talking about my experience with JW because of the complex they usually have. Which has been exhibited here in this thread several times and finally being crowned with the statement above.

I usually stay away from religious arguments which to me is a waste of spiritual energy and religious argument is the area of specialty of JW. I know because I also passed through their teachings in my spiritual journey.

My grandfather brought JW to my village. He was their pioneer in my Village. He brought his whole family with him including my father.
My grandfather eventually left JW and started studying metaphysics.

My father continued with JW until he too left and joined my grandfather in studying metaphysics.
As a child my father grounded me in JW teachings.
I grew up with JW literature. My book of Bible stories, watch tower and awake wete never in short supply in my house. My father ensured I studied them closely.

Every Sunday morning even when he has left JW he used to open his doors to them and I watched them slugging it out. Arguments upon arguments. They were perplexed on why he left and he kept pointing out to them the importance of not taking the Bible literally but instead meditating and getting insights from the Holy Spirit.
He was simply wasting his time.

I started reading the Bible and meditating on the verses reading a chapter a day from very early in life. I will restart from beginning once I finish.
The insights I was getting was what led me on the search for the Holy Spirit. Which was clearly stated in the Bible as the comforter that will lead you to all truth.
My search lead me through many religions and paths. My search ended in Eckankar.
It was in Eckankar that I started experiencing first hand the full manifestation of the Holy Spirit which can be seen as a light in the spiritual eyes and heard as a sound. Just like the apostles experienced during the Pentecost
Since then my life has never been the same again.
I don't bother arguing with anybody over these issues because you can never understand it if you have never experienced it.
So to each his own belief.
What matters is loving God and loving your neighbor as yourself without discrimination or bias. Even if the person left your church. Still love the person because God is love.
That is all that matters. Anything else is simply illusion.
Iremain blessed

Courz:
What is the image of Satan doing in your Watchtower publication? The Watchtower is about Jesus yet they had to fix Satan in there? Why did Watchtower cut the image into half to conceal it? Why do you need a mirror to see the other half?

Courz:
Comments....

Wake up/Woke up=Seeing the Lies of the Cult.

Courz:
Proof that Watchtower is extremely scared and are panicking :Their latest September broadcast. If you want to know something wrong has been going on behind the scenes, just pay attention to what the Governing body talks about in this broadcast. This broadcast is proof that a lot of JWs are waking up, researching this Cult, questioning them, and leaving.

They mentioned young people doing research about the Cult and listening to the media reports about the Cult. It is clear they are bleeding young JWs. In this broadcast, they demonised the Media and said JWs should avoid listening to the Media, avoid listening to Whistle-blowers they call Apostates. In fact, they demonised everything. In other words, do not listen to anything outside their website. This is Information Control 101. Sign of a Cult. They even said listening to the media and Whistle-blowers means Death. They are threatening. This means they have a lot to hide.

They said people have been saying lies about them but they refused to mention these lies or the truth or even show proof that they are lies. They didn't mention the news reports. With the way they are delivering these warnings to JWs, they have no idea that this will tickle the curiosity of some and will lead these ones to research the Cult and the News reports. That is the experience of a lot of JWs who eventually joined EXJW Reddit forum. This is why EXJW forum memberships are growing at a high rate.

One thing non JWs reading this thread should understand about this Cult is the Leadership require Blind obedience. Ignore what is being said and trust and obey them. Very fishy! In this broadcast, it was repeatedly said, "Trust us" "Trust the Faithful Slave as God and Jesus trusts us". How did they know God and Jesus trusts them? Can they read the minds of God and Jesus? They're not inspired so how did they get the message? This is not the first broadcast having the same pleas. They have made these pleas 3 or 4 times before. For them to repeat it again with vigor this time around means something wrong is happening to them.

From this broadcast, it was also clear that Watchtower monitors EXJW forums and react to them. They were addressing some things discussed there. There were many posts asking if the Governing body really go out to preach like every other JW. In the Broadcast, they showed obviously rehearsed scenes of their Leadership Preaching with cameras recording in the house holder's house. The scenes are also old with a wife of one of them wearing a convention badge of 2014. Many who have come in contact with their leadership admit that some don't often go for Preaching and use their talks to count time for field service while others don't go at all. So, those parts are clearly fake.

Sorry Watchtower that you are seriously bleeding members and a lot of them are questioning you. But that should be expected when you have things to hide and are involved in a lot of questionable activities. Almighty God and Jesus are the ones exposing you. They are using people you mistreated to expose you. Jesus says what has been hidden must be brought to Light. Humbly accept discipline from them the same way you tell JWs to accept discipline and you will be fine. No need to panic!

Of course, USUAL SYMPTOMS OF COURZ IBERIBEISM & DELUSION.
1st point:
Does the US/UK Gvernments, "bastion of democracy", control information giving to the public?
Yes, Classified documents.
According to faulty DELUDED theory of COURZ IBERIBEISM, Government is a cult.

2nd point:
Even God Almighty controlled information giving to Daniel His Prophet.
Daniel 1:17, "Daniel could understand visions and dream"
COURZ IBERIBE, did Daniel understand the visions and dreams of Daniel 12:1-9?

Daniel was curious ,he asked "My Lord will the outcome of all these (visions and dreams) be?"

God's angel replied: "Go your way, Daniel, because the words are closed up & sealed until the time of the end".

3rd point:
Matthew 24:36, did God Almighty control the information given to Jesus?
Is God Almighty cultish?

Mumu boy,grow up

Eagban:
The meaning of " Son of God" in this context, means someone having the nature of God that is why it annoys the Jews so much to the point of wanting to kill him...
?

Eagban:
Why is Jesus Christ calling himself the Son of God different from any other person?

AllenforGOD:
umm.ur perspective is inferior,john 10:30"for i and the father are one"also john 14"10 also is similar to this.

achorladey:
Do you believe in g in John 1:1 who created all other things as placed in NWT?

See merry-go-round everywhere

achorladey:
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Myopia and folly peddling peddler, this is a public forum already. Indeed that poser by sagenaija but your merry-go-round ways into motion See plenty Bible verse you don cite up there

Simple question, do you believe?

johnw47:
lost fraud jw janosky

no Bible verses are lies to me, that's just another example of what a liar you are

i believe in One God "JEHOVAH"
does that make me a "3 deities/3 god's worshiper

i haven't been in a church building for many decades
does that make me a churchgoer

see yet again and again how you frauds just keep repeating your lies over and over again:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

The same John W FRAUD who posted that Jehovah is God and Jesus Christ.

My brother "CAPTIVATOR" asked John W:
"So,You separate them?"


John W FRAUD wedded to LYING.
You worship one deity you call "holy ghost"
You worship another deity you call "the Son"
Still, you worship another separate deity you call "the Father".
How many are they?
Shame on you, DELUDED LIAR.

johnw47:
lost fraud jw janosky

see how what i said is true:



Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

achorladey:
I love reasonings like this especially the use of believe in your post.

It will put the no get sense peddling peddler on the back foot or start his merry go round from Bible to merriam websters to interlinear to Bible lexicons to divert what was simply stated.

sagenaija:
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Nevertheless, you believe in God with a capital 'G' and other gods with a small 'g'.
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sagenaija:
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And you believe that the god with a small 'g' in John 1:1 created all others and to that extent, he is greater than them. True or false? Again, a simple answer will do here. But if I know you you will engage in your usual rigmarole.

Ok, let's overlook your mistake of referencing the Word as "the god" (not found in your Bible or any Greek lexicon).
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John 14:28,1 Corinthians 3:23 & 1 Corinthians 11:3 , Jesus Christ and Paul (he converted) have answered your question.

MaxInDHouse:
Acknowledgement defer from putting faith in, demons also acknowledged the existence of God {James 2:19} but are they ready to obey God? NO!

So we believe in God's word which says there are many gods in heaven and on earth but we worship only one God (JEHOVAH) through the teachings of His son Christ Jesus! 1Corinthians 8:5-6

achorladey:
Do you believe in g in John 1:1 who created all other things as placed in NWT?

Stop the merry go round!

achorladey:
@ Janosky

Do you believe or need to bow or bend your knees to g[/b]before you give glory to [b]G?

OLAADEGBU:
"Watchtower is necessary to understand the Bible" So says the Organization in the Watchtower, 2/15/1981, page 19 Read it at http://ow.ly/YUhl50KtPPF

OLAADEGBU:
You are certainly the Jws' terminator. They can't deal with the facts you present because they are used to believing a lie. It is amazing to see how they take cover when you expose their lies with evidence.

By implication,COURZ says your Deeper Life hymn "Guide me O great Jehovah" is a song for Lucifer & OLAADEGBU is cheering him on.

OLAADEGBU SUPER GLUED TO DELUSION.

johnw47:
lost fraud jw janosky

forever loving to blaspmeme the Christian's JEHOVAH, Jesus, and Holy Spirit of the bible
calling THEM 3 deities/3 god's

you also love to call THEM: "the 3 dogheads", and you love to call
the Holy Spirit: "the ole demo ghost", with other false jw's saying: "the unholy ghost" etc.
and getting many likes from your brother false jw's, all of the same line of thought

John W FRAUD confirm his worship of 3 deities.
John 20:17, did Jesus Christ worship 3 deities?


Answer:
NEVER !!!

johnw47:
lost fraud jw janosky

see how what i said is true:



Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

OLAADEGBU:
Spot on. Their whole movement is built on a lie.

OLAADEGBU Trinitarian delusion is spot on!

Deuteronomy 10:17 & 1 Corinthians 8:5 is the Bible evidence against OLAADEGBU Trinitarian GIBBERISH & DELUSION.

sagenaija:
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Thank you for letting us know that you believe in God with a capital 'G' and other gods with a small 'g'.

Deuteronomy 10:17,ASV

17For Jehovah your God, he is God of gods".

Oga, Jehovah God is the God of gods.
At John 1:1, John reference Jehovah as "the God". Greek John 4:24, John and Jesus Christ reference Jehovah as the God.

Anyhow,Sagenaija & his fellow 3 deities worshippers wants to TWIST the Bible truth of Deuteronomy 10:17 & 1 Corinthians 8:5, it's their cup of tea.
Jehovah the God of gods PROHIBITS worship of gods.


Their cup of tea is NOT holy scriptures.

OLAADEGBU:
100 Truths About Jesus
by Matt Slick | Nov 24, 2008 | Doctrine and Theology, Christian Theology

Jesus is described in the Bible in many different ways. Here are 100 truths about Jesus. He is amazing and when we look at God's word, we can see how much of a blessing He is to us in so many different ways.

100 truths about Jesus

1. Jesus claimed to be God, John 8:24; 8:56-59 (see Exodus 3:14); John 10:30-33

For more truths about Jesus

Simple question:
OLAADEGBU ,is Greek Theos (God) in any Greek Bible manuscript lexicon of John 8:24,58?

PULPIT Commentary:
"It is somewhat DUBIOUS to be LYING to be public that Exodus 3:14 "I will be what I will be" is the same as John 8:24,58.

Also,it very DUBIOUS of OLAADEGBU & Trinitarians to change Greek "theous" (a god) @John 10:33 (PROVEN in the Biblehub (Trinitarians) screenshots) to "God" not in any Greek Bible manuscript lexicon.

This is Trinitarian deception, to say the least.

delkuf:
No matter how hard you try to defeat it, we millions of Christian believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is God.

OLAADEGBU:
The earlier you believe and accept the fact that Jesus Christ died on the Cross for your sins the more you will be better off.

OLAADEGBU:
Crucifixion of Jesus Christ

JWs and Muslims will want to object to this evidence.

MaxInDHouse:
Being on this thread is one thing but wasting your time and data on atheists is another thing {Matthew 7:6} my target is any faithful person who stumbles on the thread {Matthew 10:6} that's where i direct my blows! 1Corinthians 9:26

As for these atheists i only comments when it's necessary to detonate their missiles so honest hearted followers may see their true identify that they don't believe (trust) God's word!

achorladey:
I am still looking for Jehovah’s organization here. Janosky where you keep am for this latest post. Others wey dey thread una see Jehovah’s organization here?


You go repeat this your post tire today. You never see anything. Your running around just dey start. Run you must run

Courz:
He is indeed. And it is sad to watch seeing his brain turned to mush by Watchtower. His responses are always scattered. Something is happening in his brain.

achorladey:
Chai stop asking me irrelevant question and spare me your delusion peddling. Show me Jehovah’s organization in those account cited by you? Shikena

achorladey:
He started asking me question from Merriam Webster dictionary. Many problems of no get sense peddling

Oga did you quote Merriam Webster chapter for 89 verse 5-7

Did you quote Merriam Webster chapter 6 verse 8.

You go run now


Show me word for word Jehovah’s organization in those two account?





Why are you DIVERTING to Merriam Webster dictionary?

Strong's 5475 Council - " a company of persons",
Psalm 89:7.

Oga go & learn or Carry your delusion outta here. .

The bitter pill of Bible truth will continue to expose anyone hating the holy scriptures.

OgaNightmare:
Identifying with any man-made organization does not guarantee us salvation, that's the big mistake people make thinking that just being a member of a church is enough.
True Christians are identified not by wearing a crucifix or identifying with any denomination claiming to be the one and only
Christians are identified by their adherence to all of Christ's commandment and abstinence from anything that will prevent them from inheriting the kingdom.
Proclaiming a false goodnews (majority of the so-called Christian churches are guilty of this)
has grievous consequences. So we must be very careful of what we feed people with and make them believe.

achorladey:
Gibberish peddling peddler my post is not about Freemasonry leadership. The post you responded to had nothing to do with it. Save your face by hiding behind myopia or poor understanding of the Scriptures


You go run now......


Psalm 89:5-7

The heavens praise your marvels, O Jehovah, Yes, your faithfulness in the congregation of the holy ones 6 For who in the skies can compare to Jehovah?
Who among the sons of God is like Jehovah? 7 God is held in awe in the council of holy ones; He is grand and awe-inspiring to all who are around him.


Word for word show me "Jehovah’s organization" in that account?

Isaiah 6:8


Then I heard the voice of Jehovah saying: “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” And I said: “Here I am! Send me!”

Word for word show me "Jehovah’s organization" in that account?

achorladey:
You can see the post of the no get sense peddling peddler so far. Filled with repetition of scriptures that I have repeatedly shown to him does not support whatever he is propagating


They will keep recycling it continuously hoping and looking for who will fall for it.