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sagenaija:
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As expected you again missed my point in the Revelation passages I stated. Instead of focussing on them, your mind was thinking "This is where he must be heading to so let me counter him from that point". You refused to see the uniqueness of Jesus Christ from those passages.

Look at ALL the portions in Revelation where someone fell at the feet of another. What was it for? Obeisance? (To use your JW preferred word when you want to alter the meaning of a word). When John fell at feet of angels at least on two occasions what did the angels say? What do you see happening in Rev? 5:11-14? Were they simply admiring the Lamb?
Janosky, open your eyes.

Oga Sagenaija open your eyes.
Revelation 5:11-14 screenshot your fellow travelers in the Trinity boat PROVEN Worship is NOT for Jesus.
Matthew 4:10 dey your Bible?
Matthew 4:10,Why are you desperate to contradict Jesus Christ?

sagenaija:
A simple question that you ran away from because you know it punctures your whole theology in JW if we can call it theology.

Like I stated: Where DOGMA is superimposed on the Scriptures even clear issues like I've stated above will still not be clear to you. You will still resort to your rigmarole. That's exactly what you have done - resorting to confused and meaningless statements.

My point in Acts 20:28 when I said clearly the Greek did not state 'his own son' is that the Jehovah's Witness Organization ADDED words that were not in the Greek of the NT to their translation. This is not just the issue of rendition. It is putting in your translation something that is not in the ORIGINAL just to make it conform to your dogma. That in one word is FRAUD. You guys are intentionally perverting the truth.

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sagenaija:
Instead of explaining your position what you do is resort to attacks on the person. And you guys will turn around and say that your organization is the best in the world. Is it with people like you?
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Sagenaija Post:
Do you begin to see how your brain is working in a twisted way?"

Is Sagenaija "resorting to attacks on the person" of Janosky?
Sagenaija dey do the same thing he is against.

sagenaija:
Again, I said your JW translation says: “He came to his own home, but his own people did not accept him,” (John 1:11, NWT). Who were His own people (of the Word) that did not accept Him? Obviously Israel. Who called Israel his own in the Old Testament?

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Oga Sagenaija,@ Psalm 89:29 & Luke 1:31-32, is King David the Father of Jehovah God of the old testament?

Trinity na man made SCAM

sagenaija:
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What you then do (without relating it to the verse or my questions) is go on to John 16:28 and then talk about lying. What are the lies in my above questions? When did asking questions become lying? Do you begin to see how your brain is working in a twisted way?

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sagenaija:
Instead of explaining your position what you do is resort to attacks on the person. And you guys will turn around and say that your organization is the best in the world. Is it with people like you?

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The position of the holy Scriptures is :
"Believe in Jesus our Lord, the only begotten Son born of the Father before ALL ages".
According to your Nicene Trinity mentors.
John 16:28 & John 20:17.
JWs share the same God and the same Father with Jesus born of the Father before ALL ages".

Oga, what about you?
Your next question have given you away.

Who called Israel his own in the Old Testament?

Oga Sagenaija says Jesus is the Jehovah of Israel.
@ John 20:17, did Jesus agree with Sagenaija?

sagenaija:
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My questions were simple. First, your JW translation of John 1:1 says "the word was a God" and I asked; what kind of god is the Word that he is referenced here with the God? Also: If in the beginning 'was' the Word does that not tell you that he already existed as uncreated?

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sagenaija:
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Your INABILITY to answer questions straightforwardly shows either your mental capacity level or disingenuousness.

Angelfrost:
That's the problem....

Hopefully the new owner (Todd Boehly) will give him room and time to grow a proper team!

englishmart:
Tuchel was a great coach for Chelsea until complacency set in. I don't blame Boehly at all, nobody will invest that much and stomach any underperformance. Chelsea is a very ambitious club and won't condone any below-par performance. I hope Graham knows what lies ahead. I hope he understands we are not as patient and unambiguous as Arsenal. I wish Graham the best of coaching experience. Ziyech and Pulisic must go.

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost blasphemer fraud jw janosky

you love to forever call the Christians JEHOVAH and Jesus and Holy Spirit
of the Bible: "3 deities/3 god's", you also call them: "the 3 dogheads"

you call the Holy Spirit: "the ole demon ghost"

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.

1Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

tctrills:
Matthew 5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

Now my question remains unanswered.
Why have you be selective with this commandment.
You are going the extra mile in.
1. Mask wearing
2. Not preaching from door to door.

But you do not go the extra mile in
1. Remaining on lockdown and closing your businesses.
2. Having church service.
Do you understand my question now

Question 1 answer: 1 Timothy 5:8.
Did your Bible exonerate Jehovah's servants from paying their bills?
If JWs knock on your door to appeal for financial aid ,in order to go the extra mile you demand, will you respond & help them?
Una go push am to front page topic on NL.

Question 2 answer:
JWs went the extra mile to hold our weekly Bible study meetings online.
Hebrews 10:23-25,Every JW made lots of personal sacrifice to participate in our online Bible study program.
But,Christendom's business centers & Pastorpreneurs could not sustain online church services because they recorded financial losses & it was not bringing in the immense profits that accrued from the usual attendance offline.

The Pastorpreneurs went the extra mile to put pressure on the Government to allow them reopen their business centers.

achorladey:
He has resumed peddling his usual ARCHAIC IDEAS to be mocked and are irrelevant as a result of recent biblical evidence.

Here he is peddling MYOPIA and WAILINGS over what he ran away from.

Show me Jehovah’s organization in Psalms 89: 5-7 word for word Janosky the NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER ran from Bible to merriam websters to Bible lexicon. He abandoned Isaiah 6:8 and clipped 5,6 from Isaiah. Only to come back and resume his Mumu and no get sense peddling here on this thread.





You forgot that discussion didn't even start here. You can keep peddling your luminous myopia. this your luminous myopia na another source of truth solutions to your Jehovah’s organization 24/7 past truth, present truth and future truth problems.

iamliwake:
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EXTRACT: After Two Failed Marriages, Pastor Chris Okotie Declares Stand On Taking Third Wife

General Overseer of the Household of God Church in Lagos, Pastor Chris Okotie has publicly declared his stand on taking a third wife after two failed marriages.

ROVINGUPDATES earlier published that Okotie during an interview with BBC pidgin said he is not interested in getting married for the third time.

When asked if there was any chance of taking another wife, the cleric said Jesus had already told him that his journey of marriage has ended.


The flamboyant preacher and former presidential candidate noted that he never understood the will of God for his life when he got born again, adding that he has done all that he wanted for himself.

He said: “I’m not getting married again, I’m not getting married again because Jesus has already told me that one has ended. When I was saved, when I became born again, I was in the university at the time I did not understand the will of God for my life. I always said I wanted my own family and all that and I went and did what I wanted”

Chris Okotie Failed Marriages

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sagenaija:
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You did not disappoint me in resorting to rigmarole in your response.

Oga, you are just giving flimsy excuses to REJECT
John 14:28,1 Corinthians 3:23 & 1 Corinthians 11:3 , where Jesus Christ and Paul (he converted) have answered your question.

sagenaija:
You argue here about ARTICLE[/b].
Even if we are to go by your translation of John 1:1 what kind of god is the Word that he is referenced here with the God? If in the beginning 'was' the Word does that not tell you that he already existed as uncreated?

Jesus said: "I came forth from my Father", John 16:28.
Oga, did you come forth from your Father?

"Jesus the only begotten son born of the Father before ALL ages." (In screenshot)- Trinity Creed of Nicene,3 AD.
According to Trinity Creed of your mentors at the Council of Nicene.
Na them PROVE you are LYING.

sagenaija:
When your translation follows that with “This one was in the beginning with God,” (John 1:2, NWT) can't you see the connection this opening verses of John is making between God and the Word?

sagenaija:
Later on we have “He came to his own home, but his own people did not accept him,” (John 1:11, NWT). Who were His own people (of the Word) that did not accept Him? Obviously Israel. Who called Israel his own in the Old Testament?

sagenaija:
Where DOGMA is superimposed on the Scriptures even clear issues like I've stated above will still not be clear to you. You will still resort to your rigmarole.

sagenaija:
In Acts 20:28 clearly the Greek did not state 'his own son'. Your JWs NWT put that in there. Why? We are not just talking about an article here. We are talking about a significant insertion. You won't see anything wrong with that. But now you go talking about an article.

sagenaija:
Do you agree that JW threw away any reference to Greek grammar in rendering this portion the way it did? Is that sincerity (or staying true) with the Greek?
Who is being DUBIOUS?
Btw, Koine Greek is precise.

sagenaija:
Look at these again and get sense:
For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son; today I have become your Father”? Or again, “I will be his Father, and he will be my Son”?
Hebrews 1:5 NIV

When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
Revelation 1:17‭-‬18 NIV

“Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Revelation 22:12‭-‬13 NIV

“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
Revelation 22:16 NIV

He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.
Revelation 22:20 NIV
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Did you see that the Word that was with God ACCEPTED worship?

@ Revelation 22:12-13,16, Revelation 1:17-18, & Hebrews 1:5,did your own Bible make any statement about worship?
When you "fall at the feet " of your Father, are you worshipping him?
Sagenaija desperate to FORCE Trinity DOGMA into holy Bible.
You claim you worship Jesus and worship his Father, God.
John 20:17,Oga, did Jesus you claim to imitate, worship 2 persons?
Did Jesus Christ say the disciples worship 2 persons?

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tctrills:
Now you have come. So basically this is not about the lockdown because the lockdown is over but this is rather your interpretation of Matthew 5.41. Interesting. So basically the JW lockdown would last twice as long as the government lockdown.
Are JW members still locking down their businesses? Also, I noticed that when it came to resuming church service, you did not give Caesar a mile more. You only gave Caesar a mile more in Mask wearing and door-to-door preaching. But refused to give him a mile more in your businesses, work, and attending church service. Very interesting.

achorladey:
After running away as predicted, he is still peddling MYOPIA and WAILINGS over what he ran away from. Show me Jehovah’s organization in Psalms 89: 5-7 Janosky the NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER ran from Bible to merriam websters to Bible lexicon.


The NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER then decided to start using numerous questions that he knows are ARCHAIC IDEAS TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE when cornered.


You can keep peddling your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING on Manchester United vs Brighton. It is within the limits of your Mumu peddling.

Courz:
On a more serious note Janosky, Why is it that your JW Memorial is the exact same ceremony of Satanists called The Black Mass?

tctrills:
While I don't get the purpose of the verses you quoted,

tctrills:
I must say that Templee333 is entitled to his believes and just because we don't have similar believes does not make his story worthless. And the more you fight him, the more you give his story legitimacy. You are actually making him more believable and you can see that I hope.

Courz:
Yes someone like you will ask that Lady out sharp sharp upon seeing her boobs. People like you that are Fanatics are usually Sex Maniacs! I know you like what you see. Tell me, how many non JW Ladies have you approached outside the Kingdom Hall like that lady above? You know they have used sex to swear for you JW Males. Oh, I remember how JW males feast their eyes on Flashy non JW ladies that come to the Kingdom Hall.

tctrills:
Unless you were present in his growing years and lived his very experiences, I don't think you can tell if he is lying

AllenforGOD:
ayah!u dont assimilate well,i am certain,in which whereas am trying to expound the comprehensible here,hope assimilated<full stop>

AllenforGOD:
ur full of i no even know sef,why then are u speaking in contrary to that of jesus,"I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE"not I u and the father are one, get that?stop speaking leasing.<full stop>

AllenforGOD:
i know u dont clearly assimilate well,its obvious,that clearly mean i ,u and the father are one,he's definitely expounding it as they<disciples>and we would beleive they are ONE and do not differ,and when u beleive in jesus u are certainly reconciled with God and connected to him and also in and with him<full stop>

achorladey:
The characteristics I gave you and your religious leaders alongside its organisation don dey hit you hard that's why you want to keep show the more that indeed una double face na common denominator with others.

achorladey:
When you go about citing works of ATHEIST, churchgoers, those you call christendom religious leaders in your publications to teach your children and adults you forget una double standards abi?

achorladey:
Many problems of your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING.

You don quickly forget your usual ways with Jerusalem and Geneva Bible abi?

AllenforGOD:
umm.ur perspective is inferior,john 10:30"for i and the father are one"also john 14"10 also is similar to this.

AllenforGOD:
ur full of i no even know sef,why then are u speaking in contrary to that of jesus,"I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE"not I u and the father are one, get that?stop speaking leasing.<full stop>

Templee333:
nevertheless, i performed well last Sunday. So what will u do to ease ur anger? Will u come & set fire in the church?

The person liking your comments will go to his Church PULPIT teaching and preaching the Eckist & Atheists sermons of Templee333 to adults and children:
"stop taking the Bible serious ever since I saw how unfit it is in our era."

The only sermon Achorladey cherish more than him MYOPIA.

Courz:
That JW guy with his color riot clothes will turn around and ask for her number outside the Kingdom Hall seeing her boobs out like that. That's how JW males roll in secret including the married ones.

One Memorial day, a non JW lady walked into the Kingdom Hall with her tight fitting dress showing her curves and her short blond hair. You need to see how the JW males, single and Married were staring at her hard. One single JW Male was planning to go to her until his friend cautioned him and said, "my guy, focus. Looks are deceiving." There are so many womanisers in this Cult. Hypocrites! No wonder you feel privileged that a big boobed lady came looking for you JWs, Mad MaxInDHouse!

tctrills:
Again, it is his own experience. You being defensive makes you look weak and guilty. If you believe in your own story then he is entitled to his own story and to tell it. You don't know his story more than he so when you defend, you look weak and that is not what you want.

Courz:
Want to know why they have several cases of Chid Sexual Abuse and make frantic efforts to cover them up and hide their Database? Head to the Are Jehovah's witnesses tied to Freemasons? thread. Then you will understand why.

Why is Watchtower protecting Pedophiles like these ones below? Any difference between you JWs and the Catholic Church now?

Templee333:
they like deceiving themselves,believing that u can't leave JW & go to another church. The guy doesn't know that i'm a Sunday school teacher & a preacher in my church. If only they know how absurd their beliefs sound to outsiders.If only he read my 1st story in which I mentioned a prophet/GO of a church who's an ex jw. But pride didn't allow him to follow the story carefully. He always want to rush into correcting others as the JW custom is
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Templee333:

My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 8:28pm On Aug 14



Yes, but the people who combined John's work with the remaining works that made up the Bible removed some of the content because it sounded too unbelievable and crazy to them.
Well, it might be but i stoped taking the bible serious eversince i saw how unfit it is in our era

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Templee333 atheist at home, Eckist on Nairaland and Born again Church pastor and Sunday School teacher on Sundays
preaching and teaching adults and children "stop taking the Bible serious ever since I saw how unfit it is in our era"
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Do you know how absurd your atheist beliefs & Eckist mantra sound to those adults and children you are deceiving?

Tctrills, do you want Templee333 (you said "God is leading" to be your kids Sunday school teacher
& Your Preacher on your Church pulpit?


Achorladey atheist shey you wear goggles see the double standard & double faced individual you support and applaud on Nairaland.
Birds of a feather.
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