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triplechoice:
I think you have misinterpreted Temple 333

@1 It is not just the reporting alone he complained of,
@2. but the hours of reporting which is fixed at minimum of 70hours monthly.

@3. Is there anywhere in the Bible that Christians must preach 70 hours monthly?

That's the question he has asked.

cosiocan:
Philippians 2:6
Who, being in the form of Elohim, thought it not robbery to be equal with יהוה‎:

If He was created He won't have the Form of Elohim, he will have the form of the creatures.

Hebrews 1:6-9
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of Elohim worship him.
And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O Elohim, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore Elohim, even thy Elohim, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Yahushua is not therefore created
יהוה‎ is his Elohim (King) but not his Creator.
Yahushua is our Elohim that's our King.
That's to say יהוה‎ is Elohim or God (King) over Every Creature and Yahushua is Elohim or God (King) over those who have the Spirit of יהוה‎. And Yahushua is not equal with יהוה‎ the Father.

SeniorMan715:
Why does Jw reject Tracts and Brochures from other group but want them to accept theirs ?

SeniorMan715:
How is praying before preaching a sin explain ?Please always explain with scriptures backing.

tctrills:
Sir, I saw your Graph, and I really got scared of the result. It's clear you did not understand the results from the graph. The graph shows the people who have been abused and indicates the organization where this abuse took place. There are 1.4 billion Catholics in the world compared to less than 9 million JW members.
By proportion, the JW sexually abuses more than 2 times catholic church.
If you don't get the maths, please ask someone that does.

rottennaija:
Janosky simply jumped into it without knowing what was talked about. Stop defending nonsense.
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rottennaija:
Second, I don't want to draw issues with you on Michael. If you saw the verse well, you will see that Michael is said to be one of the chief princes (foremost princes). So you postulation that "Michael is the head over all the angels in heaven but there are other angels under Michael who also have authority over groups of angels" is just textual manipulations to fit your beliefs.

Templee333:
PREFACE TO THIS STORY
I thank everyone who followed my previous stories thoroughly. I hope u learned a thing or two by reading them. Here I want u all to know BCS wasn't the begining of everything. It was after my effort to find the biblical God in other christian denominations had yielded no result that i started to look elswhere.I want to narate a story that i believe will be an eye opener to a lot of people.I left the JW society at the age of 22. After releasing all my effort into the only organization i believed was the "truth",i came to realize that i've been lied to. If u are a faithful Jw reading this,please kindly get out because it is an apostate thread & it's not good for ur blind faith. But if u are a JW who is trying hard to believe the bulshits u r being fed in the organization,stay here & see how ur already weary faith extinguishes in a short time. Unlike the other stories,i am 100% sure of anything i'l tell u here abt the JWs. This is templee333 apostate network FM, DONT TOUCH THE DIAL...

Templee333:
HOURS OF FIELD SERVICE
There's this practice of Jehovah's witnesses reporting the number of hours they spend everymonth preaching. Like i mentioned earlier,Regular pioneers are expected to preach a minimum of 70 hrs monthly. But we were told that some extra hours have been added to us for the two weeks we were in school. it seems like hours reporting is a very important matter in the JW society. I'd try several times to get them show me a biblical back up for this practice but none. If u try asking them this, you'll only get to hear them tell you what their Watchtower & books explain to them.The fact is,Circuit overseers,bethelites,missionaries,etc have to report their hours of service to the men in New York. Is this a requirement from Jehovah or Jesus? Whatever the case,we enjoyed "hour allowance" during the school month.Thanks to Jehovah & his loving organization...STORY CONTINUES

he reported one by one the things which God had worked among the Gentiles through his ministry.
Did Moses report to Jehovah his God?

John 17:1-14,Did Jesus Christ report to his God and Father?

The issue with the OP,Templee333 be say na follow follow him be,with shallow knowledge of Bible truth and principles.
He lacks in-depth knowledge or understanding of God's word, John 17:3, coupled with loss of faith which led him to atheism and making pretences in Christendom by teaching kids and adults about the holy bible he doesn't believe in.

achorladey:
I don tell you, you will keep running and you will not get tired as your Jehovah will give you strength.


Show me Jehovah’s organization in Psalms 89: 5-7 word for word Janosky the NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER ran from Bible to merriam websters to Bible lexicon

You go run tire

Wa sare ko ni re oooooo

Show me Jehovah’s organization in Psalms 89 :5-7 Mr NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER whose SHAMELESSNESS is a SEALED case with IBERIBEISM.

tctrills:
As Christians we don't just say anything because our pastor said so, we use the bible. Bene ha Elohim are not angels, they are the sons of God. The bible called Solomon a son of God. In the Lord's prayer, we acknowledge we are his sons. You need to begin to take your bible seriously

Piptocoin:
[color=indigo]if this is not deliberate and mindless distortion of the scriptures I don't know what else to call it.[/color]

Ken4Christ:
You are jogging slowly to the very hell you do not believe exist. Satan is waiting to receive your soul.

MaxInDHouse:
So are you saying those people has been judged before the judgment day so there's no resurrection for them?

tctrills:
Now you seem confused. In which verse do Bene ha Elohim and Malak reference the same creature?
Bene ha Elohim refers to son of God in Genesis 6:2,4
Malak means messenger of God. Very different.
My brother, just try and be reading your bible. This Hebrew thing is not working for you.

tctrills:
I am sure you are not quoting the bible. here is what the bible says
Job2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.

job1:6 Thus did Job continually. [6] Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. [7] And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Steep:
Jesus is called the second Adam he is the source of the new humanity since the old one had being corrupted by sin.

Steep:
He is the first man in the new creation but however he is God.

Steep:
Jesus embodies two nature, the divine and the human nature, hence he is forever the God-man, he is like a bridge, a meeting point between the divine(uncreated) and man(created).

Steep:
He will never stop being God as well as he will never stop being man.

Steep:
In Jesus christ the plan of the father to have a perfect world without sin is fulfilled, hence in him the father is well pleased.

Steep:
Very soon this old creation will pass away Althose who are not in christ are part of the old creation and the new one will come, this new one is eternal.

tctrills:
You are not making any point. What is your position? Are you saying that Angel means son in the Hebrew language? Because if that is your point we should research right now because you are completely wrong. In fact, the Hebrew translation of Angel means messenger.

Now to your question:

What is the meaning of the Hebrew lexicon of Malak?

Answer- מֲלְאָךְ mălʼâk, mal-awk'; from an unused root meaning to despatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically, of God, i.e. an angel (also a prophet, priest

tctrills:
I just confirmed Job 2.1. In Hebrew, Son does not mean angel. What is your point? Since you are the Hebrew expert, tell us, what is the Hebrew word for Son and the Hebrew word for angel. Do they mean the same thing?
Here is the Hebrew word for son בֵּן
Here is the Hebrew word for angel מַלְאָךְ‎ mal'āḵ
You see you are wrong Mr. Hebrew lexicon

What is the meaning of the Hebrew lexicon of Malak?
Oga, go and learn. Many scriptures address your faulty logic.

"Anyone can be a Malak".
Source: Hebrew word lessons.com.
Oga, your faulty logic is equivalent to claiming that Adam is not son of God because he is human.

Steep:
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Jesus is the Almighty. Revelation 1 vv8
He is the Almighty God that took the human nature.

tctrills:
Please refer to your bible. I cant lie, I don't understand what you posted please explain

Steep:
Jesus is both equal to God .
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Steep:
and (Jesus) less than God.
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Steep:
How? In his divinity Jesus is equal with God the father in every aspect but in his humanity he is less than God since he is a man.
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tctrills:
I asked you to show just one verse that says so. Obviously you are one of those Christians who just repeat what your pastor days without reading your bible.

tctrills:
Can you imagine, you depend on Wikipedia and not your bible. Oga this is funny. Wikipedia is now above the bible. Wiki now defines your religion.

Steep:
The scrupture says the word is God, John 1 vv1 not a God but God himself.

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tctrills:
You would not find a single verse in the bible where angels were referred to as children of God. But you would find multiple verses where men were called the children of God.

tctrills:
So far, you have not been able to show a single verse where angels were called children of God. What you did was show different translations in some it said sons of God and in 1 it said angels.

Then I love the fact that you asked who are the sons of God? One thing we learn as Christians is not to assume. We only testify on the revealed word.
Now in the revealed world who are the children or the sons of God. Every time the bible speaks of the sons of God, it was referring to men not angels.

Do you remember the Lord's prayer? Our Father who art in heaven. The bible teaches that men are the sons of God not angels

Ken4Christ:
You don't know God. If you know him, you will fear him and believe the scripture. You are so full of unbelief because you have been brainwashed to think that God does not punish anyone or can not use fire to torment anyone. But the scripture teaches otherwise.

Ken, you made a FALSE claim.
Did you read our quote of 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 & Romans 6:23 on this thread?

Did Jesus Christ doctrine teach that fire is torturing inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah at this time?

Oga, you are doing yourself.

Ken4Christ:
The writer of Hebrews says;

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

In another place, it is written;

Hebrews 10:31. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

You quote scriptures you don't understand it's meaning and you are too pompous to learn,study and get understanding

Ken4Christ:
A little disobedience could attracts God's judgment.

Remember what happened to the first man, Adam.

Ken4Christ:
What about the first world that was destroyed with flood? Only one family of eight people survived.

Ken4Christ:
What about the fire he rained down on Sodom and Gomorrah?

Was the fire he rained on Sodom and Gomorrah literal or not? If it was literal, who says he can't use literal fire to punish people?

Just show me one scripture that says God can't use or don't use fire to torment.

Ken4Christ:
Rather, there are several scripture that affirms he tortures with fire. But, your deceptive teachings say otherwise. This is a trick of the devil to get more people into hell fire.

Remember his dealings with the children of Israel.

They died in their thousands.


You are completely incurable. You just can reason straight anymore.

Russell is indeed an agent of darkness.

Because of him, so many are lured into hell.

And you one of his captive.

Kobojunkie:
Again, stop with the meaningless ramblings in what seems an attempt to mask that which is obvious.

The context is John 1 vs 1

Yes, Jesus is a God - In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God
Yes, Jesus is God - ....and the Word was God

What part of that can you really not see in your meaningless attempt to draw issues where there exists none? Why are you so insecure?

Kobojunkie:
From.this discuss it is abundantly clear you struggle with language comprehension issues.

Yes, Jesus is a God
Yes, Jesus is God

What part of that can you really not see in your meaningless attempt to draw issues where there exists none? Why are you so insecure?

Confused man.
In the entire Greek scriptures, a God is always referenced in small letters- a god.

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible didn't reveal how many or who are the chief princes but it's clear that there is rank among the angels (messengers) in heaven and God refers to all of them as His sons {Job 38:7} and they're all precious to Him.

So just as Adam was the first human Son of God {Luke 3:38} we too could have had such foremost princes on planet earth had it been there's nothing like death.

Courz:
When you start from 19:20 in the video from your website below, One of your Governing body members, David Splain, revealed that Charles Taze Russell, your founder, is still guiding the Organisation to the path of Holiness.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/VODPgmEvtAnnMtg/pub-jwb-086_5_VIDEO

Remember when your former president, Rutherford, made the same statement about Russell even though dead, is speaking again from the dead. And now, here is your Freemason god repeating the same thing in this video. In other words, Charles Taze Russell, the one who believed that Truth from Satan should be accepted, is the Boss of your Cult. Not Jesus. Russell. Which explains why you have false prophecies and strange doctrines.

So, the question is, how is Watchtower getting messages from Charles Taze Russell from the dead to lead them to the path of Holiness? Witchcraft? Communication with the dead? Explain that.