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blueAgent:
See them , Jubilating in ignorance.

Jesus is an Angel, that is also called GOD?

Chibuezem:
Jesus Christ is God

blueAgent:
It's clearly written in the Bible.

Jesus is the Son of GOD

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!🙂

Emusan:
This is what I need.

You cancelled your own EVIDENCE.


NET BIBLE got it wrong.

Na you bring evidence na you still discarded the same evidence

Emusan:
I this case NET BIBLE cancelled the same NET BIBLE EVIDENCE.

Wahooooo what a sound logic of an hypocrite!

This just reinforced my point that you agreed with NET Bible whenever it suits your agenda.

The screenshot from NET Bible is there as well

Ken4Christ:
Place an order for my book, The Total Man. It will explain it to you

Oga, by your comments,you have edited 1st Peter 3:18 in your Bible.

Jesus Christ resurrection have proven your claim is fiction.

Emusan:
@color-red shows how shameless you are.

So you want me to be forcefully agreed with NET interpretation of Prov 8 and the same time disagree with NET interpretation of Col 1:15.

This is very pathetic and double standard in nature.

Anyway, do I surprise? No! because I know that is how you keep jumping around when the bone hooks you in the neck.

NET has finally exposed you with your own hand.

Oga, use what God gave you to see that Proverbs 8:22-30 NET Bible provided evidence is the bone that hooks the neck of your claim & hooks the neck of NET Bible claim about Colossians 1:15-16.

Emusan,Use the screenshot to help yourself.
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Chibuezem:
lol Oga don enter
Are you a Christian Mr Janosky?
If you are not then you are missing out. The scripture has over whelming evidence that Jesus Christ who is the the Word of God was with God in the beginning of creation to the making of all things, He was the creative material for all that existed, He's the wisdom of God to establish the very foundation of the world. You've tried to deny His divinity by using the scripture a pity I must say.

Since you won't accept this overwhelming evidence I have no other choice than to pray that you may first experience salvation.

Have a wonderful day bro

Chibuezem:
Okay Sir But Have you heard from Yahweh?
Have you encountered His word?
Are you even Born again?
Bookmark bookmark you've not tagged me wetin dey happen

Chibuezem:
Oga don enter my man is panicking 😂😂😂

Ye shall know the Truth
The truth will set you free

Chibuezem:
lol you are still arguing
Continue

DiarisGodoo:
Then who said this below

Emusan:
First proof me wrong that something who exists BEFORE CREATION can still be a created being.

I'm expecting you to bring your usual screenshot from AI, Biblehub or Bible gateway

Why are you so in panic mode?

Emusan:
The screenshot below is your tormentor.

NET says Hi!

Proverbs 8:22-30 NET Bible evidence shred any post you or NET make about Col 1:15-16.

Pls console yourself.

Gabrielshow24:
You keep putting yourself into different conundrums. Even if I give you the benefit of the doubt that wisdom was ... What's that word🤔?... Qanah(created)... Then it means your god is a mutable one😔. He is not self sufficient 🤔, he needed to ... ’labor in pains’👀 in order to bring forth wisdom👀. Whew...what a god😔!

Basically, whichever way you spin it you serve a mutable god 😂—an insufficient god🤧.

Don't let me even get into the ludicrous implications of your statement: where your god dwelt without time but still managed to create Jesus? 😂 —No be juju be that. Also, how did your god, presumably foolish, come about bringing out wisdom🤔?

When you answer these questions your delusions will be cured🥱.

Emusan:
And the same Jesus is the POWER OF GOD.

So, Jehovah created his own POWER and Wisdom

That is why I do tell you that without Jesus, your god doesn't possess wisdom and POWER.

Emusan:
It doesn't make any logical sense to say something was created and the same thing existed BEFORE CREATION.

Proof me wrong without doing copy and paste.

Emusan:
My question,

Can Angel Michael die?

Emusan:
So it's now you know NET is a Trinitarian Version

All of a sudden, NET doesn't have the Truth anymore

I know you'll chicken out.

That screenshot will continue to torment you.

Emusan post:
So why did you use the same people that their interpretation goes against Apostle Paul in Prov 8?

Emusan have confirmed that his Trinitarian/NET opinion on Col 1:15-16 is conflicting against the holy book of Proverbs 8:22-30 on the same subject matter of creation.
Paul's writing affirms Proverbs 8:22-30,your Trinitarian opinions did not.
Emusan dey vex.

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Emusan:
Their interpretation goes against Paul now

So why did you use the same people that their interpretation goes against Apostle Paul in Prov 8?

Hypocrite, I know you thou

DiarisGodoo:
I don't know the genesis of this "parousia" discussion

Emusan:
It never answered it because
1. I didn't see Jesus name there.
2. Prov 8 never said another person was creating the Universe rather Prov 8 proved that God Himself was doing the creation activities.



He can't provide screenshot because his lying mouth will be exposed.

Also, remove personified from that statement then you see where your problem lies.

Lastly, the simple question still remains "Where was Jesus reside before He took part in creating the Universe?

The fact that you even agreed that the Universe was created through Jesus shows Jesus is the Creator.

Proverbs 8:24 tn The third parallel verb is חוֹלָלְתִּי (kholalti), “I was birthed (through labor pains)."
Some (e.g., KJV, NAB, NASB, NRSV) translate it “brought forth”—not in the sense of being presented, but in the sense of being “begotten, given birth to.” Here is the strongest support for the translation of קָנָה (qanah) as “created” in v. 22. The verb is not literal; it continues the perspective of the personification

*1 Cor 1:24, Paul says Jesus is the Wisdom of God.
NET Bible says @ Prov8:22 Wisdom is the agency of creation,a being personified as Wisdom.
Emusan chase shadows & deceiving himself.
Oga,denial won't help you.
NET Bible evidence galant.

Emusan:
Also, this particular statement "Although the idea is that wisdom existed before creation"

Even though, Jesus name never appeared in Prov 8 but the above shows simple logic fallacy, if wisdom existed BEFORE CREATION how can wisdom be CREATED before CREATION?

Emusan:
This means that NET has the truth and their translation is more accurate than NWT because NWT never used the phrase CREATE.

Do you agree?

Emusan:
Jesus came to earth as human which makes him died.

Even Angels don't died and you believed Jesus is Angel so cute the crab.

Jesus died because Je became Human, will Jesus have died if he remains in heaven as Angel Michael you believe him to be?

I know you dare not answer this question

Or let me put it this way, all the Angels who can't died are all God as well

Emusan:
No! Paul who used the term FIRSTBORN also explained the meaning.

Emusan:
Paul said ALL THINGS were created through Jesus and FOR JESUS.

Jesus can't create Himself.

Emusan:
In the attached screenshot is how NET explained Col 1:15 'DON'T TURN A BLIND EYES TO THE LAST PART'

Do you agree with NET here or we should move further?

Emusan:
Show me where Reuben was said to be PREEMINENCE in Gen 49:3

MaxInDHouse:
Mr Socrates, the word RAPTURE was never used by any Bible version because it makes no sense as it's real meaning correlates with RAPE.

Check your dictionary!😂

DiarisGodoo:
I don't have the foggiest idea what you're talking about. You must have mistakenly quoted the wrong moniker

If you understand the meaning of parousia @ 1 Thess 4:15, you might rethink your position about Christ's presence (not "coming".