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OLAADEGBU:
Objection: Jesus Prayed:

Some cults argue that because Jesus prayed to the Father, He could not truly be God. 

Biblically, however, it was in His humanity that Christ prayed to the Father.  Since Christ came as a man -- and since one of the proper duties of man is to worship, pray to and adore God -- it was perfectly proper for Jesus to address the Father in prayer.  Positionally speaking as a man, as a Jew and as our High Priest -- "in all things He had to be made like His brethren" (Hebrews 2:7) -- Jesus could pray to the Father.  But this in no way detracts from His intrinsic deity. AiG

Hismasterpiece:
Lol @ 12. Both believes the Bible to be authority but interpretation of their prophets / governing body is more authority. .. So true.. But MaxInDHouse Cornelboy and Janosky disagree with you..

Courz:
Jehovah's witnesses in Nigeria are Not 600,000. They are a little above 300,000. You can find that info in their Yearbook.

Another similarity you missed is that founders of both religions were Freemasons. Most religions started by Men in the 1800s were started by freemasons.

Both religions also have their own separate Bibles (New World Translation and Book of Mormon) deliberately translated to suit their doctrines.

Also, if you see LDS members, you will mistake them to be Jehovah's witnesses. Their dressing and ways are similar.

achorladey:
Even the place they gather for their religious activities.

achorladey:
Like the following below from their publications....

1.

All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not."

2.

At times those appointed to take the lead may give direction that does not make sense to us. However, Jehovah blesses obedience

pressplay411:
Jesus preached that we are all gods.
Where ever did he claim to be God?

He prayed to God before performing any miracles. He told the thief he'd be with him in his father's house. He never ever said he was God, please stop crucifying his legacy.

Jehovahs-witnesses are labeled all sorts but at least the practice only what the Bible teaches, although they tend to go overboard. Their offense is not as grievous as other Christians who mutilate the legacy of Jesus by equating him to God. It's just ludicrous.

pressplay411:
Modified:
Jesus is indeed God. 1 Timothy 3:16,
.

Oga, DON'T DECEIVE yourself.
Open your eyes and do a thorough research.
Are you ready?
Let's start...

@1 Timothy 3:16 the DUBIOUS insert of "Theos" (God) by Trinity worshippers DECEIVED you.
1 Timothy 3:16,Greek Bible manuscript says "Hos"(He/who" not THEOS.
Oga,pls check Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear Bible and cure yourself from Trinity GIBBERISH

pressplay411:
John 1:1,
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pressplay411:
John 14:8-12,
.

pressplay411:
Isaiah 9:6.
I was blind, but now I see.

If you are not blind, open to Hosea 12:3-4 & open your eyes, your heart and your mind.
Anything you claim about Jesus Christ @ Isaiah 9:6 & John 20:28, use Hosea 12:3-4 to make the same claim about Angel.

Did you see exclamation mark @ John 20:28?
When you exclaim "Oh my Lord!"/oh my God"!
Are you referring to the Almighty God?
John 20:28-29 that is Thomas exclamation of surprise that Jesus Christ has risen.
Not proof of Trinity.

OLAADEGBU:
Spot on. They are so deluded in thinking that the write-ups of those people trumps the inspired word of God. That is what brainwashing does to them.

OLAADEGBU:
May the Lord open your eyes to know who Jesus really is.

John 20:17
"Jesus saith to her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brethren, and say to them, ... 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God"


OLAADEGBU open your eyes to John 20:17 & see who Jesus Christ says he is.

OLAADEGBU proven that John 20:17, the statement of Jesus Christ, is NOT in his heart and mind.
OLAADEGBU prefers Trinity GIBBERISH

Maynman:
Even though it’s from a Christian website. Indoctrinated sheep can you now see that “God” from theos is title and not a person?
The Greek theos

Maynman:
Indoctrinated sheep, if I don’t what you gon do?

OLAADEGBU:
Stop throwing scripture references without saying how it relates with the topic.

Maynman:
Are you not a pagan?
Worshipping both Jehovah and Elohim?
Or do you think theo means god in Hebrew Bible?
Jehovah is not a word in Hebrew, but of Latin origin, truly it is a foreign god different from elohim

OLAADEGBU:
He is worshiped (Matt. 2:2,11; 14:33; 28:9)

OLAADEGBU:
He is prayed to (Acts 7:59; 1 Cor. 1:2)

OLAADEGBU:
He was called God (John 20:28; Heb. 1:

OLAADEGBU:
He was called Son of God (Mark 1:1)

OLAADEGBU:
He is sinless (1 Pet. 2:22; Heb. 4:15).

OLAADEGBU:
He knew all things (John 21:17)

OLAADEGBU:
He gives eternal life (John 10:28)

OLAADEGBU:
The fullness of deity dwells in Him (Col. 2:9)

OLAADEGBU:
He worshiped the Father (John 17)
He prayed to the Father (John 17:1)
He was called man (Mark 15:39; John 19:5).
He was called Son of Man (John 19:35-37)
He was tempted (Matt. 4:1)
He grew in wisdom (Luke 2:52)
He died (Rom. 5:

OLAADEGBU:
He has a body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39)
As a man, Jesus needed to pray. When He was praying he was not praying to Himself, but to God the Father.
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OLAADEGBU:
"If Jesus is God, then who did He pray to?" This is a very common question. See the answer at [url=https://carm.org/about-jesus/if-jesus-is-god-then-who-did-he-pray-to/]

If Jesus is God, who’d he pray to is a very common question and the answer is found in understanding the Trinity and the incarnation of Jesus.

The Trinity is the doctrine that there is only one God in all existence. This one God exists as three persons: The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit. They are not three gods, but one God. Each is a distinct person, yet each of them is, in essence, divine in nature.

OLAADEGBU:
A close analogy of the Trinity can be found by looking at the concept of time. Time is past, present, and future. There are three “aspects” or “parts” of time. This does not mean that there are three “times,” but only one. Each is distinct, in a sense, yet each shares the same nature or essence. In a similar way, the Trinity is three distinct persons who share the same nature.

Oga OLA Very CROOKED, STUPID, FAULTY ANALOGY
Crooked Trinitarians, Does time have nature?
No !!!!!!


Is Time a being?
No !!
Is Time 3 persons?
No !!
Time is abstract. Time has no parts.
God is a spirit. Spirits do NOT have 3 parts.
Trinity shege

OLAADEGBU:
The Incarnation
The doctrine of the incarnation in Christian teaching is that Jesus, who is the second person of the Trinity, added to himself human nature and became a man.

Oga OLAADEGBU deity is praying to 2 other parts of themselves,"my Gods my Gods why have you forsaken us?".

OLAADEGBU:
The Bible says that Jesus is God in flesh, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God….. and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us” (John 1:1, 14); and, “For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form” (Col. 2:9). Jesus, therefore, has two natures. He is both God and man.

Jesus is completely human, but He also has a divine nature.

Matthew 24:36, Oga OLAADEGBU deity with him 'divine nature' doesn't know somethings .
OLAADEGBU GOD wey no know somethings

OLAADEGBU:
BIBLE

• LDS – The Bible is correct only as far as it is correctly translated. It is basically trustworthy. It is the only one of the four standard works (Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price) that is not considered infallible.

• JW – The Bible is the inerrant word of God. (Be careful. Though the J.W. organization believes in the inspired Word of God it has changed the Bible to support its own theological bias.)

Kumuyi slave deceiving himself

Who "changed the Bible to support its own theological bias" in 1 John 5:7 & 1 Timothy 3:16?


Who "changed the Bible to support its own theological bias" in 1 Colossians 1:15 by adding "OVER" into that verse?

Who "changed the Bible to support its own theological bias" in Romans 1:20 by adding "Godhead"?


Who "changed the Bible to support its own theological bias" in John 10:33 & John 1:1 by adding capital letter "G" when your Trinity mentors (screenshot) proven they knew that it's wrong?

Maynman:
Bro check this out, hope it’s not correct from a Jehovah witness website lol
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5110515182338048/most-high-allocated-yahweh-jacob?page=2

Maynman:
Guy guy, check this out from a Jehovah witness website.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5110515182338048/most-high-allocated-yahweh-jacob?page=2

Courz:
Why is Watchtower described as a BUSINESS and NOT A RELIGION here in this letter from Charles Taze Russell to Shareholders?

Oga,prove to this public forum that your comprehension skills are intact by typing EVERYTHING in the cycled portion of your screenshot.
That is the only help I can render to you.

Courz:
Why is your Freemason organisation championing the NEW WORLD ORDER?

2 Peter 3:13 & Daniel 2:44 proven that this guy Courz Oteneaaron has serious issues.

Off course,Courz Oteneaaron Delusion of Grandeur mixed with Mental illness!!!!!

Courz:
Oh you are scared! You can't answer abi? You must answer today!!!

Why are your Governing body communicating with the dead Anointed ones to give you JWs "Spiritual food at the proper time"? Why are they obsessed with Charles Taze Russell? Why did they believe that Charles is more inspired than Jesus?

Off course,Courz Oteneaaron Delusion of Grandeur mixed with Mental illness!!!!!

Courz Oteneaaron done kolo ,na the results of his LYING & GIBBERISH full here.

Courz:
Delusion of Grandeur mixed with Mental illness!!

Courz:
Tell me, why did Watchtower deviate itself from Christendom, thereby, proving that you JWs are NOT Christians? Why did Watchtower proclaim that all churches will be destroyed which aligns with the ideals of Freemasons? Why is Watchtower a member of the Wild beast? Why is Watchtower championing the NEW WORLD ORDER? Why is Watchtower worshipping a Diety that is both Male and Female? Why is the name JEHOVAH found in Books of Magic and Spells? Why did Watchtower make you JWs worship A diety found in books of magic?

Off course,Courz Oteneaaron Delusion of Grandeur mixed with Mental illness!!!!!
This thread Na 17 pages results.

Courz:
Why is it that Watchtower OWNS INTERNATIONAL BIBLE STUDENTS ASSOCIATION and STILL RUNS IT to this very day? Did your beloved website make mention of this? Why is it that Watchtower is still promoting the teachings of Russell of which you JWs now call "Apostate teachings"? Why was Russell in opposition to Jesus yet Watchtower sees no problem in maintaining his teachings by running IBSA to this very day? Why is it that Rutherford said that Russell, even though Dead, still speaks again and the Governing body love to speak with "Russell" after he died?

What a desperate diversionary tactics !

The same person,2 monikers.
Oteneaaron is Courz off course!

Courz:
So they are aware that Christendom is Christianity.

Courz:
Any twisted definition you get from these people is inspired teaching of demons. It's Perversion.

Courz is spreading perversion,Off course.
Shamelessly LYING on this public forum.
Courz the LYING master could NOT convince any Freemason ,not even budaatum with first hand info on Freemason with any GIBBERISH he spews on this thread.

Indeed,JWs NEVER have anything with Freemason.

Courz:

Their Apostate definition is even Laughable. Dictionary defines Apostate as someone who abandons a belief for another. Jehovah's Witnesses are Apostates for claiming to have left the original beliefs of Watchtower started by Charles Taze Russell. They are Apostates for renaming themselves Jehovah's witnesses. They are also Apostates each time their doctrines change. People who left their previous religions to join Jehovah's witnesses are Apostates. Even Watchtower Bible and Tract Society as a whole is an Apostate for OWNING International Bible Students Association AND RUNNING IT to this very day helping them to maintain the teachings of Charles Taze Russell. Charles Taze Russell claiming to be better than Jesus is an apostate.

This is how pointing fingers work. One finger pointing at someone, four fingers pointing right back at you.

OLAADEGBU:
5. Jesus created all things, John 1:1-3; Colossians 1:15-17

Hismasterpiece:
Lol... the Bible refers to them as men because physically they look like men.. What's your own interpretation?

OLAADEGBU:
I can see that you've now gone to reinforce yourself with more ammunition lies from your kingdom hall.

Ask them to teach you where Jesus got all those "marks, wound and nails injury" from in His glorious body?

OLAADEGBU:
by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:15pm On Apr 20

"See how folks fail exams without difficulties. You've been programmed to argue that Jesus was raised as a spirit even when Jesus said He was not."

What glorious body have you ever seen for you to conclude that they don't get marks?

Mikee19:
Errr... They didn't lie, lol. The kingdom of God was indeed at hand! Blame your misunderstanding on your organizations error of doctrine on what the kingdom of God is and when it came....

Mikee19:
NKJV Lu 22:17-18: "¹⁷ Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, “Take this and divide it among yourselves; ¹⁸ for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.”"

Jesus, who's no liar, said he'll only drink of the fruit of the vine when the kingdom of God comes

well...

Mikee19:
NKJV Ac 10:40-41: "⁴⁰ Him God raised up on the third day, and showed Him openly, ⁴¹ not to all the people, but to witnesses chosen before by God, even to us who ate and drank with Him after He arose from the dead."

They ate and drank with him WHEN HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD! The kingdom of God has come ever since, which is why this scripture was in past tense:

NKJV Col 1:13: "¹³ He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love,"

They "kingdom of God" was clearly come like Jesus and John foretold, your organization just failed to understand this and kept giving out fake prophecies!

You jumped to Acts 10:40-41 & Colossians 1:13 to misquote your Bible because you lack understanding.
Acts 10:40-41 refers to the events of
Luke 24:40-43, where the disciples ate with Jesus Christ after his resurrection.

Luke 24:40-43
When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet. 41 And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, “Do you have anything here to eat?” 42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish, 43 and he took it and ate it in their presence."

Their feeding with Jesus Christ @ Acts10:40-41 & Luke 24:40-43 ,had no ceremonial significance.

Mike,stop deceiving yourself.

Mikee19:
Naaah, no way is this a proper answer. You just side-stepped the scriptures I raised, rather than address them!

When Jesus taught his disciples that prayer, he was still preaching "the kingdom of heaven is at hand". During the Lord's supper, he was even still talking of it in futuristic tense, "when the kingdom of God comes"!

But the scriptures i showed indicated that it did come at that time. All you're doing is pointing out the inconsistencies with someone who still prays that prayer as tho it hasn't come. Give a proper answer. Show why that isn't correct. This one isn't it

Maynman:
What’s the difference between Theo and theos?