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Maynman:
Really? This is the source you quoted, janosky “ https://www.internationalstandardbible.com/C/coptic-versions.html”
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Maynman:
Do you even know what “Septuagint” is? It’s not a language. Septuagint BIBILE just like any other book then was written in Greek language, Coptic sahidic is a translation from Greek language.(English to Yoruba)

Maynman:
Does theo mean god in Hebrew as it is in Old Testament? Or was Old Testament written in Greek?

OLAADEGBU:
Stop throwing scripture references without saying how it relates with the topic.

OLAADEGBU:
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Maynman:
I quoted your source(which is a Jehovah witness source)
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Maynman:
They said the sahidic Coptic dialect dated back to 200AD, and the Coptic Bible dated back to 350AD.
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Maynman:
The Septuagint was written in Greek, Coptic septic is a translation from Greek, how can they be written at the same time?
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Maynman:
Is theo the same as God in Hebrew?
The real meaning of theo in Greek is a boy name.

Maynman:
Why don’t you start from John 1:1, as you said earlier?
A god was the word.
What does word mean in Hebrew and Greek?
Is Septuagint Bible not a Bible? Why are you scared of it and using a Coptic septic Bible?
Does theo mean “god”’ in Hebrew?

Maynman:
Is this still a fact

Maynman:
It was spoken in Greek as it is in the Septuagint Bible.
You are the one saying sahidic Coptic is the earliest translation of the Bible and it’s a FAT NO.

Maynman:
Show me where you got this fact ?” Westcott & Hortt, translators of the Septuagint into English knows that Theos mean
"a god/"God”
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Maynman:
They lack history .
Stop fighting the Bible.

Your claim is not true.
Oga, go & learn John 20:17.
You seem not to understand Jesus spoken statement.

Maynman:
Was the Bible written written in Coptic sahidic? Wasn’t it written in Hebrew and Greek.
Septuagint Bible was written in Greek even before the language of Coptic sahidic developed.
You are fighting the truth.

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Maynman:
You are fighting the truth, you are afraid of what’s in their.
This further proves it, they’ve muddled it up.
Your god is logos..

MaxInDHouse:
My brother this guy doesn't worth the response, if he believes Matthew's gospel then we need to meditate thoroughly on the whole account instead of picking a verse to drag you into some fruitless arguments. 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

So if doesn't believe (trust) the account of Matthew there's no need arguing with him at all! Matthew 7:6

Maynman:
Why don’t you check the origin of the word theos? It’s a Latin word. Why are you fighting This?
The Septuagint is the earliest translation.why are you afraid of the words in it?
The Coptic septic Bible is a translation from Greek.

Maynman:
Your God Is logos.
And why are you using a translation that came from a translation from a translation.
The Coptic Bible got his translation from the Alexander Greek Bible.

Even in what you posted earlier.
They said the books in the Bible were dated to 350, that means the language would have been created 200AD, which is even not that old compare to some language.
Don’t confuse dialect with the Coptic Bible.

Like John 1:1 like Acts 12:22-23

Is John 20:17 in your Bible, spoken by Jesus Christ?
Ho Theos at John 1:1,John 14:1 & 1 Corinthian 11:3 ( Mounce Greek Interlinear) is the only true God worshiped by Jesus Christ.

Maynman:
There’s part 2 https://www.internationalstandardbible.com/S/septuagint-2.html
Only international Bible are historians? Lol
Google even already said it, you are just living in denial and being dogma.

Oga, nothing dogma about it.
Theos mean "a god" /God"
That is not dogma.
Emphatic Diaglott & New world translation reflected the correct meaning of Greek Theos at John 1:1, the same thing your Trinity mentors did at Acts 12:22-23 & Acts 28:6.

Whenever any Greek Bible texts references Theos (God) more than once, the Most High God is always differentiated by definite article ("ho/the" as ho Theos /the God),the other Theos is rendered as "a god" (with indefinite article "a" because that is not the God Most High.
Oga, go & learn.

MindHacker9009:
You always like to claim that you alone have the understanding of the Bible and you did mention that the saints did not come out of the tomb when Jesus was crucified but Matthew tells us that they did

MindHacker9009:
, so where do you get your information concerning the Bible from is it from Johannes Grieberr who "was a spiritualist heavily involved with the occult his translation was completed under the direction of spirit messengers with the aid of his wife who is a self-professed spirit medium"

Johannes Grieberr too wrote that the saints did not leave their tombs.

7victor:
You are a Jehovah witness. I am not surprised. The scripture has been around for nearly 2000 years.

One day, not up to 100 years ago, one man came and started changing some things written in the Bible.

He changed everything that shows that Jesus Christ is the Son of God/God.

He then formed it into a book which is now what Jehovah witness uses as their bible..


But your bible is adulterated. It is different from the Bible which has been in existence since and by which thousands of people throughout the centuries have been saved.


That your founder cannot come few years ago and be lying about something which has been in existence since the time of the Apostles.


There is a belief that he wanted to start a group which will be different from other Christians because he wanted a group just like there are Lutheran, Methodist, etc.

So he sat down in his room and began to go through the Bible changing things.

Infact, he is one of the few people on Earth who have falsely altered things in a large scale without any form of scholarship or research.

Infact, everyone who is a researcher knows that the man's book which he calls a " bible" is the most manipulative abuse of freedom.

He just sat down and change things so unashamedly without any research or scholarship.


It is such a shame.

7victor:
That verse you are quoting also says that Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God. It also says that by Jesus Christ all things were created.

It shows you that Jesus Christ is God because God is invisible and any time He makes Himself visible, He comes as Jesus Christ.


That's why He is called the image of the invisible God.

Image of something. You cannot see the something but you see it's image.

Also the verse says that by Jesus Christ were all things created.

It shows you that He is God because He created all things.

It is only God who can create. If it is acknowledged that He created all things, it shows He is God.


The thing is this, if I create somethings in my room. The knowledge to create those things is from God. The things I created are also the creation of God because God gave me the idea on how to create those things. Let's say I create some plates for my personal use. Those plates can say it's God who created them. And they are correct because God creates something through another thing.

If I create a car, I know everything about the car. If the car needs maintenance or any help, I am the one who will provide it. So to the car, I am God.

Infact, every intelligent being is a creator. As human beings, we have created so many things for our use.



The same thing is with Jesus Christ. Everything was created by Him and for Him. God created everything through him.

That was why even while on the Earth, Jesus Christ was able to create things like new eyes by using sand and His saliva.


Every intelligent being can create something according to his ability and wisdom. Everything so created is from God. But the Creator of all things is God the Father because the ability to design and create things is from God.


That is how Jesus Christ created all things.



There is an ancient belief that demiurge created all things. It used the Knowledge God gave him to create everything including human beings. It didn't know that there was a God somewhere who gave him the ability to create.

He thought he was the only one who existed before he created things. One day, God appeared to him and made him realize that it was He who gave him the ability to create all things.


He started worshipping God.


Even ancient people seem to realize that there was a being who created all things by the power and knowledge of God.


As Christians, we recognize that being (who created all things) as Jesus Christ. But it was by the power and wisdom of God, His Father.

Maynman:
It’s older THAN sahidic Coptic Bible, it’s even not part of the earliest atall.
Post your fact with evidence, be bold of it.

tctrills:
What role does the Holy Ghost play in our lives? How does one get the Holy Ghost? Do we still need the Holy Ghost today?

Steep:
When we mention "person or individual" the next thing that pops out of many peoples mind is a human being or a form.
Being vs person

A being is the substance or the essence (what defines an entity) while a person or individual is the consciousness of being.

Trinity is one God in three persons or three persons in one being God.

Steep:
Xib

7victor:
The thing is that the Israelites believe that the judge of the world must be a man and the saviour must be God Himself.

In order to get a saviour who is also a judge, the person must be a God and a man.
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7victor:
That is why Jesus Christ was born through a human being while still retaining His God nature. .

7victor:
So He was both the Son of man (so that He can judge the world) and the Son of God so that He can save the world.

He is the Son of man because He came through man. God gave Him authority to judge the world because He is the Son of man.
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7victor:
[quote author=7victor post=111993540]1 Tim 3:16, Apostle Paul wrote that God was manifest in the flesh. That is: God came as a human being.
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7victor:

Jesus Christ Himself called Himself the Son of God.

After He healed the man who was born blind, He asked the man whether he believed in the Son of God. When the man asked who was the Son of God, Jesus Christ confirmed He was the one.

Even Apostle Peter acknowledged before Jesus Christ that he and other disciples believed that Jesus Christ was the Son of God.


Son of God does not mean that God had intercourse with Mary in order to born Jesus Christ, as one religion like insinuating.

As Christians, we know that Jesus Christ has been the Son of God before He was born on the Earth.



He existed with God His Father before the world was created. He was the Son of God before the world was created.



Everything was created except Jesus Christ.

He is the only thing that was not created.

HE WAS BEGOTTEN, NOT CREATED.


As in, God spoke whatever He wanted and it came into existence. That is what's called creation.


As for Jesus Christ, God brought Him out from His own self. That's what is called "Begotten"


Jesus Christ was begotten, but not created. Just like a woman gave birth to a child, God brought out Jesus Christ from Himself.

Jesus Christ has always been one with His Father until God separated Him just as a baby is separated from the mother by coming out of her womb.


During His last prayers, Jesus Christ asked God to glorify Him with His (God's) own self with the glory He had before the world was created. Although Jesus Christ came out directly from God, He is still one with God.


He said "I and my Father are one.

Share your thoughts on this.

Image123:
These ones don't know or have why Jesus died. They are just full of theology.

Maynman:
The Septuagint is the oldest translated Bible, and that “word” there means logos.
What’s logos?

MindHacker9009:
@Maxindhouse is this the origin of the watchtower Bible you have been teaching from?

Video transcript:
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to find additional support for their
2:11
altered scriptures the watchtower has
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even turned to the occult
the new testament a bible translation by
2:17
Johannes Grieber has been used as an
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authority in many of their publications
2:22
Johannes Grieberr was a spiritualist
2:25
heavily involved with the occult
2:27
his translation was completed under the
2:28
direction of spirit messengers with the
2:31
aid of his wife who is a self-professed
2:33
spirit
2:34
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This Is What An Actual Bible Scholar Thinks Of The Jehovah's Witnesses Bible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grgTgH8sl1w

OLAADEGBU:
This is deception of all ages.

MindHacker9009:
@Maxindhouse is this the origin of the Book you have been teaching from?

Video transcript:
2:10
to find additional support for their
2:11
altered scriptures the watchtower has
2:13
even turned to the occult
the new testament a bible translation by
2:17
Johannes Grieber has been used as an
2:19
authority in many of their publications
2:22
Johannes Grieberr was a spiritualist
2:25
heavily involved with the occult
2:27
his translation was completed under the
2:28
direction of spirit messengers with the
2:31
aid of his wife who is a self-professed
2:33
spirit
2:34
medium

This Is What An Actual Bible Scholar Thinks Of The Jehovah's Witnesses Bible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grgTgH8sl1w

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Objections to Jesus' physical resurrection answered
by Matt Slick | Nov 24, 2008 | Doctrine and Theology, Christian Theology

Even though the Bible teaches us that Jesus rose from the dead in the same body in which He died

OLAADEGBU:
and that His resurrected body was a glorified body

OLAADEGBU:
people still resist accepting this truth–to their detriment. Various objections are raised against such biblical support as . . .

OLAADEGBU:
people still resist accepting this truth–to their
• “Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” 20 The Jews therefore said, “It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?” 21 But He was speaking of the temple of His body." (John 2:19-21).

OLAADEGBU:
•“When therefore it was evening, on that day, the first day of the week, and when the doors were shut where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in their midst, and said to them, “Peace be with you." 20 And when He had said this, He showed them both His hands and His side. The disciples therefore rejoiced when they saw the Lord." (John 20:19-20).
•“And He said to them, "Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 “See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have." (Luke 24:38-39).

OLAADEGBU:
people still resist accepting this truth–to their
It seems clear that Jesus' physical resurrection is a reality. Unfortunately, objections to it have been raised

Steep:
Definitely Jesus was resurrected with his body not as a spirit.