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Antivirus92:
rubbish!
Who are you to call yourself a Jehovah servant.
Don't you think you're more deluded than anybody else?

PeaceJoyLove:
Here is another one...
I am happy Max's senior has arrived. Let's do this.

So, Janosky wanted to escape answering the question why they called him "a god". We will do it very well. ]

PeaceJoyLove:
He asked me 3 questions...but take not of my answers.

https://www.nairaland.com/7125851/deborah-samuel-death-taught-me/1#112825936

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PeaceJoyLove:
“We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
John 10:33 NIV
From this verse, people said that you claim to be something else. I can claim to be God, but if another person will come...the person can say... you claim to be a god....right? My point is this...Jesus must say that He is a god. Or direct reference to Him as a god....not what people claim he is or was. So, the Jews simply asked a question here....and does the question make Jesus a god? A question which can be rightly or wrongly phrased.


As shown in John 10.33... the jews merely asked a question which can be rightly asked or wrongly asked. jesus did not answer them. So, are we going to say that the question of the Jews asked is what we will take Jesus to be? They merely asked...are you the person you said you are? Are you God? Or are you a god? Simple....

LIAR deceiving himself.
John 10:33 paraphrase
"Why are you although a man make yourself a god?"
John & his fellow Jews question referenced Jesus is a god.

PeaceJoyLove:
And then we move to John 1.1 ... this is where Jehovah witness changed the Bible. It is only in there version we have it.

PeaceJoyLove:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. NIV

Go and check all other version...it is alway... "was God".

Until 1940s Jehovah Witness used to use KJV...here is it:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

But boom! In 1940...Jehovah Witness came up with their version called New World Translation...and here is their own version.

1  In the beginning was the Word,+ and the Word was with God,+ and the Word was a god.

Note: the founders of Jehovah Witness used to use KJV and they used to say was God. But just in 1950, some evil people did another meeting like that evil 1914 and decided to change it to "a god". This is what we have been crashing since. Hmmm.

PeaceJoyLove:
I have explained to you what is in John 10.33. And it is clear there. In John 10.33, the Jews merely asked ...are you God? Are you a god?

Is that the reason your leaders decided yo change it to "a god" in John 1.1? Please, I dont understand it clearly. Could you kindly explain explicitly?

Note.. I am not disputing the fact that Trinity is a complex topic...and I dont dispute the fact that some things might be wrong...but why would you change John 1.1 to "a god". This is the question I am asking. Please tell me the real reason. You should not be asking me questions to cover up. I decided to answer your questions cos I dont want you to cover up. Just answer what they told you in 1940. Or didnt they tell you anything? That's all..


Again... John 10.33 is a question asked by the Jews. That's all. The question does not habe anything to do with the deity.

PeaceJoyLove:
Acts 28.6
Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.
Acts 28:6 KJV
The people called Paul a god. That it. The Bible itself did not establish paul as a god. So, that the people called him a God made him a god?

So, what is the relevance here? Why do you people always try to quote rubbish.

Well... here is my question again.in this comment... hr]

PeaceJoyLove:

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We believe that Jehovah Witness is a cult that should be outlawed, just as it is in Russia. Why? They also promote many unproven doctrines and strange teachings as gospel. And they compel and force people to conform to their standards. If you ask them more questions, they will not respond because they do not have answers. They would rather force you to accept their faith. We are using this medium to tell them to force their beliefs on those who visit their shrines rather than forcing them on the general public.

As a result, we recommend that you do not accept all Jehovah Witness posts as the truth, but rather contributions that one of them has accepted. We have an evidence to back this up. And their contributions could be either false or true. We advise you not to take Jehovah Witness posts as the gospel. Please take the time to read and ask questions whenever you read their posts. Also, read other people's opinions and compare them with their. I assure you that you will see lies in their teachings.

In short, there are strong indications that Jehovah Witness is a cult you should avoid.

For example:
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PeaceJoyLove:
Jehovah Witnesses always mention Jesus. This Jesus they keep mentioning, why did they use "a god" to address him? Why?
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PeaceJoyLove:
but we learn through the Bible. And we know that Jehovah Witness read KJV which didnt call Him .."a god" till 1940s. So, how did they know that Jesus is "a god"? Please...Jesus and God cannot tell them ooo because they said they both dont speak to us again...and the available scriptures did not call Him "a god". How did they come about this?

Hmmm... So, if they can explain well, we will know they know this Jesus intimately. If they cannot answer, do they have the right to right to call on Jesus?

Peace be unto everyone!

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PeaceJoyLove:
I have been asking this question from Max the nasty Jehovah Witness bully on NL. And he has no answer. So, another nasty Jehovah witness put a lie again... here is the nasty Janosky...


Werey! Come here... you are all manipulators. Leave the Deborah thread werey.

You want to quote a part of the bible. Psycho.

Here is the full verse... werey...

5 But Paul shook the snake off into the fire and suffered no ill effects.(E) 6 The people expected him to swell up or suddenly fall dead; but after waiting a long time and seeing nothing unusual happen to him, they changed their minds and said he was a god.

PeaceJoyLove:
[s]See this is the manipulation of Jehovah Witness[/s]. I need to state that they are not Christians after I researched them well.

Empty tantrums of 3 deities worshipper
John 20:17, Jesus Christ and John proven that you know ZERO, absolutely nothing about Christianity.

PeaceJoyLove:
This Janosky knew well the story but quoted only the last part to show like the "a god" in the verse was referring to God. [/b]But it was a reference to Paul. The people thought he was a god after the s snake bite didnt kill him.

MaxInDHouse:
Your problem is the wickedness in your heart!
First of all the only authority i believe is the Bible which is the word of God, so before i attend to you there's a sign i must notice, Jesus said i should not throw pearls to pigs {Matthew 7:6} which means it's not everyone who ask questions that truly needs the answer {Luke 20:20} so the first thing we do is observe your response to what God's word says {Mark 12:34} but in your own speech you've shown the evil intention in your heart! Luke 6:45

Salvation is a personal thing that's why Nicodemus secretly went to meet Jesus alone {John 3:1-2} but those with evil intentions will invite him to a gathering where many will be expecting him to say something offensive {Luke 7:36; 11:37} in the gathering of others to accuse him!

Now listen to your own comment:






So since you don't like us there's no need trying to call mob action against us like your families did to Deborah.
If each person is entitled to his/her own opinion i can say anything about my faith and nobody should call a mob action against me for what i believe it's my frickin business not yours!

PeaceJoyLove:
Shooor!!!!

E pain you like this? Na waooo. Max, don dey panic. Chai.

Anyway, na questions a dey ask. You are the wicked man. How can you refuse to answer our legit questions and tell us to accept your useless theories.

You be mumu Muskie!!!


Jehovah Witness' book is a type of Bible which was manipulated in 1940 to 1961. So, let us get our facts right. Do not just say Bible....say Jehovah Witness' version. In your version you called Jesus "a god". So, as far as most Christians are concerned, your version is not an accurate one. It has been manipulated.

If you want to prove me otherwise, kindly attend to my question which I have been asking you. Here is it again:

You mentioned Jesus. This Jesus you mentioned, why did you use "a god" to address him? Why? Mind you...you have said many times that Jesus or God dont speak to us anyone, but we learn through the Bible. And we know that Jehovah Witness read KJV which didnt call Him .."a god" till 1940s. So, how did you know that Jesus is "a god"? Please...Jesus and God cannot tell you ooo because you said they both dont speak to us again...and the available scriptures did not call him "a god". How did you know come about this?

Hmmm... So, if you can explain well, I will know you know this Jesus intimately. If you cannot answer, do you have the right to call on the Jesus?

PeaceJoyLove:
Shooor!!!!



Max...se you talk say you no wan use your sense to reason how your leaders changed Jesus to "a god" in your version...eh... you will reason am by fire by force....so.... Max..receive sense. Take am...Collect am... I dash you...

Antivirus92:
you're even more toxic than the Muslim you're preaching to.
Imagine saying that Catholics don't practice what christ taught.
Only God knows how much I detest you self-righteous people.
Jesus described you people in the bible as Pharisees who always see themselves and themselves only as being righteous and doing what God wants.

Maynman:
Ho is the.
Theos is god.
Since you are using Greek language, let’s maintain it and not divert to English.

So if you call it theos or ho theos is the same.
You forgot to mention that they also removed gods name in the Bible, Elohim the most high, and Yahweh(jehovah) the lord.

HedwigesMaduro:
This explanation is very deep and scripturally sound.

Felimax:
Nothing can be more apt. Nice one!

That dual nature is what is confusing the world

OLAADEGBU:
"If Jesus is God, then why did He say that the Father was greater than He?"

See how the Scriptures easily resolve this issue at carm.org

This topic should be:
"If Jesus is God,then why did He say that the God his Father was greater than He & the Scriptures say the God is head of Christ ?"

Jesus Christ NEVER at anytime claimed God had dual nature, John 4:24.
"God is a spirit ", said Jesus Christ .
God is 3 triune spirits, according to OLAADEGBU & his fellow polytheists.

Nicene Creed is wishy-washy GIBBERISH fit for the incinerator.

Courz:
[s]Why did Watchtower say that you JWs are practising Modern day Idolatry? Why did Watchtower make you JWs worship a Freemason Diety found in books of Magic and Spells? Why didn't Watchtower inform you JWs that Jehovah is a Male and Female Diety? Why does Watchtower own a corporation that are openly Masonic and meet in Masonic Lodges? Why is Watchtower a Freemason organisation? Why is Watchtower in bed with the Wild Beast and the kings of the earth? Why is Watchtower supporting the core values of the UN by advertising the NEW WORLD ORDER? Why did Watchtower not inform you Mindless drones what the NEW WORLD ORDER T[b]RULY IS? [/s]

Maynman:
Jehovah witnesses aka fallen watchers of yaldaboath, Run! Run! Run!

OLAADEGBU:
Between the Holy Bible and your Watchtower magazines (Literature) which one would you trust to protect your soul from destruction?

Emusan:
I understand your frustration jaNosense

Your evil conscience is judging you because I can't see where the word "WORSHIP" appeared on my post.



No where Bible instructed us to HONOR anyone JUST AS we honor Jehovah



The question you're still dodging is, how do you honor Jehovah?

Bible instructed you to honor Jesus JUST AS you honor Jehovah?



And the same Jesus instruction is that we should honor Him JUST AS we honor Jehovah

Do you follow that instruction?



We know you Mr Gebbrish typer

Luminous Stupidity of 3 deities polytheists.

Honor your Father as you honor your Mother.
Honor Jehovah just as you honor Jesus ,Is 1 Corinthians 11:3 in your Bible?

Emusan deluded slave of 3 deities
1 Corinthians 11:3 UPROOT your mumu.

OLAADEGBU:
Stop throwing scripture references about when we know that you neither understand them nor trust in them for eternal life. Come out plain and tell us that it is your Watchtower magazine is what is your final authority.

Sifia pains of OLAADEGBU, deluded slave of 3 deities , LYING on Nairaland

John 17:7
"Now they know that EVERYTHING I have COMES FROM YOU."

John 17:24
"Father I want those you have GIVEN ME.....to see the GLORY YOU GAVE ME.... Before CREATION of the world"

Romans 11:35-36
"He (Jesus) CAME THROUGH THE FATHER"

Felimax:
Look at this pathetic mad man! Wetin concern me and you, and since when did you become the Oracle of the Father?

Stop taking Tramadol, No!
Now see how you just fooled yourself.


11:52am On May 12
FatherOfJesus:
while I agree with you on this, but in my opinon I think there's nothing like "sincere believer" in terms of running a religious sect. The above statements you made can equally be applied to every televangelist, pastor GO or spiritual leaders in every sphere"

Courz:
Why is Watchtower involved in Politics? Why did Watchtower fund a Senator's election? Why did Watchtower hire Lobbyists to influence Political decisions? Why is Watchtower free to participate in Politics but You a mindless JW drone is not free to do so? Why is your founder against Jesus in his book below? Why are you an APOSTATE by following a BUSINESS CORPORATION disguised as a religion? Why is Watchtower practising broad day light Human Sacrifice to Lucifer in the name of No Blood transfusion? Why is Watchtower going against the command of Jesus by baptising people in the name of Jehovah, Jesus and the Organisation?

OLAADEGBU:
Who is Christ for the Jehovah's Witnesses?

According to The Watchtower Society, Christ was "directly created by God."¹ Moreover, in answering the question, "Is the firstborn Son equal to God, as some believe?" they answer,

"This is not what the Bible teaches. As we noted in the preceding paragraph, the Son was created. Obviously, then, he had a beginning whereas Jehovah God has no beginning or end."²

Christ, to the Jehovah's Witnesses, is not eternal. That is, he had a beginning; and there was a time when he did not exist. Therefore, he is not God; but does this square with the biblical witness of John 1:1? We maintain that it does not.

Continue reading here

Courz:
Gbam.

Felimax:
Interesting read!

That JW manipulated the Bible in their New World Translation is an open knowledge.

Those who are sincerely seeking for the Lord wil.find Him.

You know little of watch tower history try know about it.
You eternal fate depends on it.
Dont just follow know what you are following

OLAADEGBU:
Where to Begin

While this article does not intend to be exhaustive in its treatment of the many important Trinitarian texts that the Bible contains, it is within our scope to look deeply into (arguably) the most principal and foundational of all texts contained in the entire Bible concerning the nature of Christ–John 1:1.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

This text from John’s Gospel is important in light of today’s highly religious and pluralistic atmosphere. The many heretical "offshoots" of Christianity which have appeared throughout recent history (especially in North America) are of significant importance as we consider John 1:1. More specifically, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, otherwise known as the Jehovah's Witnesses, has from its very inception been unorthodox and heretical in its teaching and theology. For our concerns, then, we will look briefly at what they believe about Christ as well as their interpretation and translation of John 1:1.

Continue reading here

OLAADEGBU:
The Word and The Watchtower: An Exegesis of John 1:1
by Matt Slick | Aug 13, 2010 | Jehovah's Witnesses, World Religions

The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, the governing body of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, claims that John 1:1 has been mistranslated in all major English Bibles and that it really denies the deity of Christ rather than affirming it. A careful walk through the text demonstrates that this JW claim is false.

Take a careful walk through the text here

Oga, carry your stupid post outta this thread.
Greek 2316 ,Theos mean God/a god.



Whenever Theos occurs more than once, "ho Theos" (the God) is referenced as Supreme God the Father while the other Theos is referenced as a god.
Bill Mounce did so Acts 12:22-23 & Acts 28:6.
Trinity GIBBERISH caused Bill Mounce to DUBIOUSLY OMIT "ho/(the) @John 1:1.


Jesus Christ and John says only the God Almighty is ho Theos, @ John 1:1, John 4:24, John 14:1,go to Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear Bible, published by your Trinity mentor.

oteneaaron:
Should Jehovah's organization be collectiing any money from Satan's World?

oteneaaron:
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Exactly my point!.

So why has Jehovah's organization in Norway been collecting free money from Satan's World for over 30 years?

And even now that the funding has been blocked, why are they appealing the block?

What does Jehovah's organization need with free money from Satan's World to the extent of sending an appeal to their decision?

Make use of unrighteous riches, according to Jesus Christ.

This guy too like mullah !
Na your money?

Oga, continue wailing oooo!

FatherOfJesus:
Jesus and his attributes are mythical.
He never existed as far as I am concerned.

oteneaaron:
Last year, the government said it would begin looking into the Witnesses after two former members and a separate (anonymous) whistleblower sent letters explaining that the Witnesses were in violation of the rules.

It’s not that the JW beliefs were secrets or anything. It’s more likely that government officials needed to act deliberately and get their paperwork in order before they could take any kind of action. Those letters got the ball rolling.

1.Some of those claims were debatable. For example, the Witnesses say members can’t get involved in politics, and that means JWs never vote in elections.

One former member argued that since voting in an election could lead to expulsion by the Witnesses — which means members couldn’t interact with you 2— that qualified as a violation of the rules.


The Witnesses responded by saying they had every right to set their own policies, 3 and if someone wanted to vote, they were freely deciding to leave the fold. There was nothing coercive about it.

But there were other concerns that the government took very seriously...