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FatherOfJesus:
yes it does, that's why I am not a witness

FatherOfJesus:
Jehovah witness is an extremely fanatical sect of Christianity.
Their followers don't have functioning brains and the govenrment knows this.
You will soon see evidence when MaxInDHouse and cornelboy gets here

Emusan:
I can see you're afraid to list how you honor Jehovah here



Lemme interpolate it for you

"For Moses did not say "Honor thy father and thy mother JUST AS you honor Jehovah"



That @underlined is what is missing in all you post. Definitely, you decide to hide that truth.



not EVEN AS we honor the Father



Not EVEN AS we honor the Father



Not JUST AS we honor the Father



Not JUST AS we honor the Father



The clause "JUST AS we honor the Father" is missing



All this without the clause "JUST AS we honor the Father"



I know it always pains you and your father the Devil, whenever we exposed your deed.

Lemme quote the verse again, "ALL MUST honor the Son, EVEN AS they honor the Father."

All the verses you ever quoted, no one ever come close to this divine commandment! Yet you and your fraudulent organization failed to obey it.

Besides, how do you honor Jehovah? Don't be afraid to tell us



Thanks! You can add this challenge to it.

You as a Yoruba son, walk up to one of your elder then tell him, as from today I want you to honor me JUST AS you honor your father (since the Bible says we should honor ALL MEN).

Let's see how well it'll go and don't forget to do before and after video because your empty skull might not remain the same again

This Misguided 3 deities worshpper's delusion equates honor with worship.

When Emusan honor....

"Honor Widows.
Honor all men.
Honor your Father and your mother.
honored us (the disciples)"...

Has he honored Jehovah God?
Yes.

Mr LIENUS, if you really want to honor Jesus @ John 5:23, OBEY Jesus instructions to you @ Mark 12:29-30 & Matthew 4:10.
Or:
Continue deceiving yourself typing GIBBERISH

RealTalker02:
- Whole body goes to hell, none of such in 1Pet .

- Those who died in Noah's day are in the Sea, and would be released from the waters/Sea not hell, says Revelation, not any prison.

Your ideas have no scrutiny



No single reference anywhere that spirit of a man goes to hell, because it's man's breath. NONE! You are exposed as the fraud you are.

What you would find as reference to hell is human body, Which your dumb self can't even process.

Emusan:
You're the one showing your mumuness here.



No! That's not what he says. That John 5:23 says "JUST AS THEY HONOR THE FATHER"

The point is, you should honor Jesus the same way you honor Jehovah.

Now, if you are not truly the son of your father the Devil, list here let's see the way you HONOR JEHOVAH.



As usual the point isn't about the Greek word of HONOR but what honor belong to Jehovah should be given to Jesus.



Can't you see you're the very one disobeying your own Bible when you can't honor Jesus THE SAME WAY you honor Jehovah.

Jashub:
[s][/s] I asked you questions you still haven't answered: why don't you JWs honor Jesus like you honor Jehovah (John5:23)?


2. Paul called Jesus our Great God and Savior (Titus 2:13) . So do you know Jesus more than Paul ?

3 In 2Peter1:1 , Peter himself called Jesus God and here it is if you're in doubt :



Simon Peter, a bondservant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:



Abi you sabi Jesus pass Peter and Paul...? Please answer

Matthew 16:16-17
16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

17 Jesus replied, “You are blessed, Simon son of John,because my Father in heaven has revealed this to you. You did not learn this from any human being"

According to Jesus Christ, what did God in heaven reveal to Peter & to Jesus Christ?

John 20:17 & Matthew 16:16-17, Jesus Christ proven Jesus is NOT God of Peter.
Jashub , you deceive yourself.

Jashub:
You are confused. John5:23 says that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

This means if you don't worship the Son, you don't worship the Father .

Question : how can Jesus (your angel Michael )be saying that if you don't honor(worship/rever/acknowledge)the Father, you don't honor Me(Jesus)?

Jashub:
You JWs don't worship Jesus, so how can you claim to worship Jehovah ?

Jashub:
Again in Titus 2:13

looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ

In this verse , Paul is calling Jesus our great God and savior .

So question : you abi Jesus pass Paul...? Or are you saying Paul doesn't know what he's talking about ...?

Athemisia:
Na carry talk you dey yan... Final no be two leg Madrid go collect...
The last time Madrid lose UCL Final na against Liverpool and na for Paris... Do the maths bro

Maynman:
Coming from a shameless numb skull.
God is a title not a person, learn

How is your Coptic sahidic Bible going?

tctrills:
Sir this thread is not about the trinity. We can discuss trinity another time but you could have tried to understand what we are talking about before contributing

Maynman:
Ignorant fool, where is “theos” derived from?
What does theo mean in hebrew?
So Yahweh is a theos right?

tctrills:
It's clear you don't understand what we are discussing here. Please take some time to update yourself on the thread.

tctrills post=
"Also note, that Isaiah called him God, and father"
.

Your statement I quoted is not rocket science.


Isaiah said:
"He will be called.... "mighty God" .
Isaiah references a future time.
Isaiah did not say he (Jesus) Most High God, Yahweh.

"He will be called... Everlasting Father ".
Isaiah references a future time.
Isaiah did not say he (Jesus) is his Father , Yahweh the Creator, Isaiah 44:24 &1 Cor 8:6.

Please note the difference.
Matthew 12:15-20, Jesus Christ references Isaiah's prophecy to REMOVE every Trinitarian attempt to make him Almighty God."

tctrills:
John 20:31
But these are written, [b]that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life [/b]through his name.

Oga, not my opinion. Some of us read the bible. The only purpose of the new testament was to make us believe in him.

tctrills:
You cant make prophecies unless it is revealed. Jesus was revealed to them of old just as he is revealed to us. Also note, that Isaiah called him God, and father. David called him Lord, and Daniel called him the Son of God. He meant more than a guardian angel. He was their Lord, God, and son of God.

If David did not know him, he would never call him his Lord. Jesus was his Lord Just as he is your Lord.

He will be called.... "mighty God" (at a future time) not Most High God, Yahweh.

"He will be called... Everlasting Father ",at a future time, not his Father the Creator,1 Cor 8:6.

Please note the difference.
Matthew 12:15-20, Jesus Christ reference Isaiah's prophecy to REMOVE every Trinitarian attempt to make him Almighty God

OLAADEGBU:
War games!

Mumu GIBBERISH he calls " war games".
JWs use the Holy Bible EXTENSIVELY not kumuyi hand-outs & online rooster and bull of carm.org meant for the dustbin.

All the points proven from OLAADEGBU Bible by JWs have debunked EVERYTHING kumuyi slave posted on this thread

Jashub:
I already answered this question oga. God (The Son) was calling on God(The Father ). Both are manifestations of the same being

Jashub:
You and I don't share the same God so why are you bothering me with your lousy thoughts ? Kindly look for your Angel Michael who you claim is Jesus and let me be with my YAHWEH (AKA Jesus )

You know say Revelation 3:5,12 & John 20:17 dey your own Bible & the you can't answer HedwigesMaduro salient questions based on your Bible.
No wahala.

Jashub:
That's not the question you should be asking because the bible tells us that there is only one God(Deuteronomy6:4). And according Isaiah 46:9 there's no God is above the Almighty God. So this automatically means there is just one true deity that's worthy worship: YAHWEH
He tell them?

Jashub ,Is Jesus Christ you own YAHWEH?
The man Maduro read Jesus statements at John 20:17 & Revelation 3:5,12 & asked you very salient questions.
But Jashub can't provide answers because
John 20:17 & Revelation 3:5,12 is colossal nemesis to Trinity GIBBERISH.
Trinitarians can NOT rigmarole out of it.

Jashub:
Then , it also says in Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD, that is My name; And My glory I will not give to another, Nor My praise to carved images. . This means no one can share on God's glory ; not even the Angels. Which now brings the question: how comes Jesus shares in God's glory(John17:5) after He previously said He would would not share His glory with another?

The answer is simple : Jesus is that God. Because Isaiah 9:6 says
For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace
He tell them?

Jesus says he is not "that God"

Did Jesus say anything at Isaiah 42:8?
No !
This Jashub sef, is very confused.
Did Jashub see 3 deities sharing glory at John 17:5 & Isaiah 42:8?
No !
John 17:5 is Jesus Christ shedding more light to expand our knowledge on Isaiah 42:8.
3 deities of Trinity is man made fiction.
Isaiah 9:6 says "he will be called.... Mighty God", Prince... allusion to a futuristic time.
Was YAHWEH ever called a Prince?
No !

Trinity GIBBERISH  rob your sense.

Jashub:
From the bolded this verse talks about Jesus being that Everlasting Father and Mighty God

Jashub:
Another thing you have to consider is that He(Jesus )equated Himself with God and that's why the Jews wanted to stone Him for blasphemy (John8:58)He tell them?

Jashub:
In fact, He pointedly equated Himself to God in John 14:6-9 .

Or have you forgotten that the disciples wanted to known who the Father of Jesus was ? What did He tell them?

achorladey:
Where in Hebrews 13:7,17 was it stated that obey those taking the lead when they give direction that does not make sense to you?

Where e dey?

Where in Matthew 10:5-6, Matthew 15:22-24 shows that your Jehovah gave Jesus directions that does not make sense to Jesus?

Where e dey



You can only ask questions you cannot answer it yourself paapaa.

Shows us where any of the disciples of said Jesus command in Matthew 10:5,6 does not make sense to them. Stop asking irrelevant questions



Your revolt and mumu peddling is the reason you peddle ARCHAIC IDEAS, TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT because the same Jesus said I have another sheep which are not of this fold which Jesus said he will bring in.



I am still waiting for rebellious desperado wey wise pass Jesus peddler to show Where in Hebrews 13:7,17 was it stated that obey those taking the lead when they give direction that does not make sense to you?

Emusan:
Yes that's why Paul and early christians can pray to Jesus the way true believers are doing today.

NLT: "I am writing to God’s church in Corinth, to you who have been called by God to be his own holy people. He made you holy by means of Christ Jesus, just as he did for all people everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours." 1 Corin 1:2

OLAADEGBU:
I know you have to defend the twisted version that supports your heresies. Only God can open your eyes to see and know the truth that will set you free.

See mumu excuses on a public forum
.
Oga,The UK Government can charge you to Court for your comments inciting anti semitism on this thread.

The scroll of Hebrew Masoretic Text read by the Jews in their synagogues for many centuries before any English Bible came off the press, is a twisted version?


Oga, please exercise your right to console yourself & be LYING

Emusan:
Just as the word "other" was never part of Colossians 1:16-18,
D

Emusan:
Just at the same Trinity mentors say Jesus is God
D

Emusan:
Phil 2:7 but was dubiously inserted into your own translation
Just as your organization dubiously inserted the word 'other" into their own translation.

When are you going to call them out? :DD

Don't forget, the same Bill Mounce Greek interlinear Bible confirmed that the insertion of the word "other" is a dubious insertion
D

Hebrew1:2 , Greek "Dia autou THROUGH him" is also at Colossians 1:16..
Emusan is grasping at straws.
Hebrews & Colossians proven Jesus is NOT the Creator

Emusan:
Phil 2:7 but was dubiously inserted into your own translation

To open your eyes, "other" was not in the Greek interlinear of, Phil 2:7


In the Greek interlinear of Colossians 1:16-18, your 8 lying old men DUBIOUSLY inserted "Other" Bill Mounce Greek interlinear is your friend.

I know Jano won't like this

OLAADEGBU:
No. Who was speaking here and to whom?

Psalms 45:6-7 of Hebrew Masoretic Text,
"YOUR THRONE GIVEN OF GOD"
is the genuine rendition of Hebrew 1:8.
Hebrew 1:8 copied Psalm 45:6-7.

Even the Pope (whose Church taught all of you the Trinity GIBBERISH) his own Bible, the Catholic Church New Jerusalem Bible proven that OLAADEGBU used a FRAUD version of Hebrew 1:8

Jashub:
You sabi the guy wella

Emusan:
Lol....so you are a deity too
D

Oga, learn from your dictionary
Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
deity
/ˈdeɪɪti,ˈdiːɪti/
Learn to pronounce
[b]noun
a god or goddess

The creator and supreme being (in a monotheistic religion such as Christianity).
noun: Deity; noun: the Deity"

Note:
Una say Jesus Christ is the second person.
Therefore, he is not The Deity.
:The Deity is God Almighty, his Father.

Emusan:
But the 8 old lying deities in Warwick are Almighty than your own deity

achorladey:
Where in Hebrews 13:7,17 was it stated that obey those taking the lead when they give direction that does not make sense to you?

Where e dey?

obey those taking the lead when they give direction ("Do NOT preach to Gentiles" that does not make sense to you

Hismasterpiece:
Ehen! MaxInDHouse you dey hear?

KaLuCh:
For using the word misinformed, I would not reply you but just maybe if I show you what you asked, you might see the light. If you don't, well, at least I tried.

Places in the bible where Jesus was called God and where He referred to Himself as the Son of God.

John 10:30 “The Father and I are one.”

KaLuCh:
Isaiah 7:14-“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel” (which literally means “God with us”).

KaLuCh:
Malachi 3:1-2-“Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

KaLuCh:
Philippians 2:5-6 “You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.”

KaLuCh:
John 1:18 “No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.“

KaLuCh:
Colossians 2:9-10 “For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily. and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority."

KaLuCh:
Matthew 28:19 “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”

KaLuCh:
John 5:18 “This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.“

KaLuCh:
John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.“

9. John 1:14 “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.“

KaLuCh:
Revelation 1:17-18 “When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.“

KaLuCh:
2 Peter 1:1 “Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.“

KaLuCh:
Titus 2:13-“Looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ”

Acts 20:28 “Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.“

KaLuCh:
Romans 9:5 "of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.
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KaLuCh:
1 Timothy 3:16-“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”

KaLuCh:
Heb. 1:8-9 “But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows”


By no means an exhaustive list. I don't really care what you think, but Jesus is God.

Jashub:
If Jesus is not God Almighty then who is God ?

Jashub:
Have you forgotten that Jesus always spoke about His father ? Who is His Father and what did He tell His disciples when they asked about who His Father was?

Oga, does Good Almighty have a Father?
Did you Trinitarians & Kaluch say they are 3 persons?
Why would Jesus Christ be his Father?


Confused polytheists

KaLuCh:
Jesus is God. In Christianity we know God the father, God the son and God the Holy Spirit. Our entire faith is founded upon Christ being as much God as the father. To deny that, to be apologetic about that, to concede even one bit against that, is a denial of the faith.

If you don't believe so, you are not a Christian the bible way. If you feel the need to debate against the deity of Christ, you are not a true Christian. If you mention me to call me misguided or whatever you wish, I will not respond as I don't care what you think.

Revelation 3:5,12 & John 20:17, in heaven and Earth did Jesus Christ believe what you typed?

John 20:17 & Revelation 3:5,12 Jesus Christ won't lose sleep over your FALSE claim.

OLAADEGBU:
Objection: Jesus Prayed:

Some cults argue that because Jesus prayed to the Father, He could not truly be God. 

Biblically, however, it was in His humanity that Christ prayed to the Father.  Since Christ came as a man -- and since one of the proper duties of man is to worship, pray to and adore God -- it was perfectly proper for Jesus to address the Father in prayer.  Positionally speaking as a man, as a Jew and as our High Priest -- "in all things He had to be made like His brethren" (Hebrews 2:7) -- Jesus could pray to the Father.  But this in no way detracts from His intrinsic deity. AiG