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Christianity EtcRe: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Janosky: 8:51pm On Mar 29, 2022
NNTR:
Ssshhhh! People are discovering more about you from the improved questioning

Good for your lot then.
Neither do I, most of times, dont base beliefs on presumption, hence why I keep on firing questions at you



Thank you for your honest since and truthful replies to questions [3] and [4] however as regards, questions [1] and [2] where according to the Bible, does it, allegedly by you, say that. Provide bible verse where in verbatim say that:
1. Moses, is God to 'Messenger'?
2. Jesus, God to 'Messenger'?

Malachi 3:1
'“Behold, I will send My messenger, who will prepare the way before Me.
Then the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to His temple
—the Messenger of the covenant, in whom you delight—see, He is coming,”
says the LORD of Hosts.
'

Who is an angel?
Angels, ' malakh' in Hebrew and 'angelos' in Greek, are agents sent on an errand to do something or deliver a message, call them, messengers, if you like. They can be celestial beings, meaning heavily hosts or can be terrestrial beings, meaning human beings
Malachi 3:1
1599 Geneva Bible
3 1 Of the messenger of the Lord, John Baptist, and of Christ’s office.

1 Behold, I will send my [a]messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the [b]Lord whom ye seek, shall speedily come to his Temple: even the [c]messenger of the Covenant, whom ye desire: behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts.

Footnotes
Malachi 3:1 This is meant of John Baptist, as Christ expoundeth it, Luke 7:27.
Malachi 3:1 Meaning, Messiah, Ps. 40:1, 7; Dan. 9:17, 25.
Malachi 3:1 That is, Christ, by whom the covenant was made and ratified, who is called the Angel or messenger of the covenant, because he reconcileth us to his father and is Lord or king, because he hath the government of his Church"

Your Trinitarian mentors knew that Jesus Christ is an angel long time before the advent of King James Version.


NNTR:
Do people send themselves on personal errands? Of course, capital YES, people can or do send themselves on personal errands, so implying that there's no exception to this rule
Isaiah 6:6,Did God ever send himself on any errand?
Isaiah 6:8, God says NEVER !!
Isaiah 6:8, did you observe that God refers to himself as "I"?
Isaiah 6:8, did you observe that "us" in that verse does not reference God as triune persons?

NNTR:
Trinity, is fit for purpose and albeit, the word itself, is non existent in the bible, the word, nonetheless, is used informally to describe the mysterious and fascinating distinguishing features of the infinite incorporeal, powerful, supreme, supernatural, influential, phenomenon Entity known as God

OK, I confess. Which is, I lied, when I alluded that, its a fact, we live in a three dimensional world. Thats not completely true because we actually, do live in a 3+1 dimensional existence, and I hope from that observation, its seen to be ludicrous to think, this God, in the real sense of His unparalleled Majesty, Serene Highness, Glory, Greatness, Matchlessness etc is subjected or limited to trinity, talkless of, a 3+1 dimensional existence

God always employs whatever we are used to, what we are familiar with, to attract our interest or attention with, uses them to transmit, share or exchange information or ideas with us. Now every physical thing on earth is represented, is identifiable with three metrics, which are: length, breadth and height, or distance, width and depth even latitude, longitude and altitude, but if you throw time, in the mix, you have the a 3+1 dimensional existence. Right now, you dont need me to say that, God is not subjected to time, and meaning, God is timeless

There is more to trinity. Trinity is a bus stop, not the bus terminus, but some jump off at the bus stop, instead of waiting to get off at the bus terminus. Is it no wonder, why the word, trinity, by divine providence, is absent in the whole of the bible.

I AM, that I AM, is signifies infinity. It imports infinitude, indicates endlessness. God can not fit, cant be squashed or roughly pushed into a trinity box and stay indefinitely in it . There is a time and place for trinity. It happens that such a time, like that, is now

Trinity does not stop God manifesting Himself in 3 ways, now, if especially, thats how our ecosystem exists and operates, then so be it. Bring it on.

Thank you very much for being a rich old good sport. Really enjoyed and loved the discussion, we eventually in the last two or so episodes got to have. We should make a habit of it more, loll.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Oga, your lengthy post are just your personal assumptions not supported by the holy Scriptures.
Christianity EtcRe: False Preachers Who Come In Sheep Clothing by Janosky: 1:16pm On Mar 28, 2022
Emusan:
What was JaNosense even saying here
Janosky post:
"God MADE the universe , NOT his Son.
Creation through his son... Colossians 1:16.
The same message in Hebrew 1:2.
Emusan:
I said The word is God, do you have problem with that? grin
Mr LIENUS which sentence of John 1:1 you put "is"? grin grin
Where your "is" dey John 1:1?
Emusan:
So do you take Jerusalem Bible as authentic translation?

JaNosense will change tune now cheesy grin grin
Yes!
Definitely!
Do you know why?
I love Bible Versions that use God's name.
Catholic Jerusalem Bible is one of them.
The Catholic Church Jerusalem Bible knows that Psalms 45:6-7 is the authentic copy of Hebrews 1:8. grin grin

Emusan:
According to the definition you gave, was Theos only mean "A god"? grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Lying liar JaNosense?
Theos meaning "A god" is very luminously correct @ John 1:1.
Oga,go & quarrel with Greek language for disgrace to your Trinity GIBBERISH.
Ho Theos is the God Almighty everywhere in Greek language,99%.grin cheesy grin cheesy


Emusan:
At least my God is 2 or 3 creator of the Universe but yours are 8 old lying men in Warwick cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
Janosky post:
"God MADE the universe , NOT his Son.
Creation through his son... Colossians 1:16.
The same message in Hebrew 1:2.

God made the Universe through his son.
Emphasis on "His", the Creator is a "His".
NOT Creators,Mr idol worshipper Polytheist
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Emusan:
Just as worshipper of 8 lying old men never respect Heb 1:2, Col 1:16-18
Continue DECEIVING yourself, Mr 3 deities Polytheist.
This point in my previous response has exposed Mr LYING genius, check the time this Janosky post was on this thread.

Janosky post @ 10:22am, March 27th,2022:
"God MADE the universe , NOT his Son.
Creation through his son... Colossians 1:16.
The same message in Hebrew 1:2".
Christianity EtcRe: God Hates Divorce But What Do You Do When One Party Walks Out Of A Marriage? by Janosky: 12:45pm On Mar 28, 2022
komekn:
First of all, since the context is Christian principal then you must see the word of God, biblical principles in strict context. In addition have uncompromising concession in the infallibility of the word of God.

There is tendency to use modern day norms and values to articulate Biblical standards and spirit which is not the true context of the word of God.

We dont make the word of God to fall in line with our modern day Western cultural norms and values, to make it more acceptable to our modern day men and women in and out of our Churches.

The Bible is intrinsically clear.

The motivation for divorce is REMARRIAGE that's at the heart of it. Discontent is anchored ⚓ on the option to get what is perceived as a better option, a new partner.

In this regard it's unquestionable TRUTH. " Any man who marries a divorced woman, commits adultery"

If this is adhered to then , with God all things are possible couples will work out thier issues positively.

The Bible is clear the only way the marriage convenant can be broken is death.

However, on the part of men if a woman is unfaithful the option is there for the man to divorce his wife, the only exception. It should be noted it's not vice versa.

The Bible is intrinsically patriarchal and has no modern day leanings towards liberal feminism and equality.

Men and women are not the same and equality cannot equated to two beings that are different. Complimentary but different. The Bible once again is very clear.

Your quote is valid when a man/woman is not properly, legally divorced from a previous marriage.
Like a football player who signed a contract with 2 different clubs.
He has broken the law.

Matthew 19:9
"I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

New Living Translation
And I tell you this, whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery—unless his wife has been unfaithful"


Oga, do you see now that Jesus Christ says divorce and remarriage is lawful when a spouse is sexually immoral?
Christianity EtcRe: False Preachers Who Come In Sheep Clothing by Janosky:
Emusan:
That's what God says about The Word, He is the creator. At least you can agree to that. cheesy grin cheesy
Janosky post:
"God MADE the universe , NOT his Son.
Creation through his son... Colossians 1:16.
The same message in Hebrew 1:2.
The Son is agency of creation.


Why this Emusan too dey LIE?

Emusan:
The word is God
You see "is" at John 1:1?
Emusan is wedded to LYING.

Emusan:
Time to start jumping from different translations that he doesn't hold as truth cheesy cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy grin cheesy
Shame on Emusan LYING genius.
Psalms 45:6-7,Jerusalem Bible is the official Bible of the Catholic Church who first taught you the Trinity GIBBERISH.

Emusan:
No! Remember, it's you people who can get drunk as you want.

According to the definition, "GOD" is there yet you couldn't see that cheesy grin cheesy grin grin cheesy

Or Theos only mean "A god"?


[b]Theos "A god" is very authentic, genuine and authoritative rendition of the last sentence of John 1:1.
Ho Theos ("The God" Almighty) is NOT "a god."
The Word, his son is "a god."
Other sons are gods. John 10:35-36, Jesus knows that. grin



Oh I see !
Emusan is a confirmed Polytheist worshipping 2 or 3 GODS. grin grin grin grin

3 godheads worshippers no dey respect John 20:17.
Na John 20:17 Jesus Christ disgrace them
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Christianity EtcRe: False Preachers Who Come In Sheep Clothing by Janosky: 12:01pm On Mar 28, 2022
Emusan:
JWs abracadabra added to many verses in the scripture. Don't forget Colossians 1:16-18 where the word "OTHER" were added many times cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
That was the definition demonic spirit gave to Johannes Gerber which your organization copied.



I can feel your pain JaNosense the Mr Gibberish! cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
God detests LYING, Exodus 20:16.

Emusan, you LIED that JWs copied Colossians 1:16-18 from Johannes Grieber Translation.
I challenge you to present the proof for your FALSEHOOD which contravene Nairaland Rule number 8.

Accursed LIAR.
Christianity EtcRe: Seriously, Why Do 2.4billion Christians Worship A Jewish Man? by Janosky: 11:51am On Mar 28, 2022
sonmvayina:
It is still amazing after an intelligent and educated man will still read the Bible from the beginning and still choose Christianity. It still baffles me.
The fact that jews are hated because of their stand on being God's chosen people, well I understand all the propaganda. But to still stoop low and forge a story using a Jewish ideology and setting is nothing short of wickedness and decption...

God is not a man that he should lie ....Number 23:19

After Isaiah has re echoed the fact that beside God there is no other he forms the ligh and creates darkness. Why would any sane human being ascribe a son or enemy to God...it is just the height of insubordination...

Well to my die hard nairaland Christian, if the story came from Ghana, would we worship a Ghanaian as God??

Something our ancestors never did. We gat to wake up from our slumber, and smell the deception...

God is one lord. The creator of heaven and earth, not a jew that was nailed to a cross..
Oga, your figure of 2.4 billion people you call "Christians",are in fact 3 deities Polytheists pretending to be Christian.

If you're interested in confirming this fact, open your Bible to John 20:17 & read Jesus Christ statement.

Acts 15:7-14,Genuine christians do not worship 3 deities.
Christianity EtcRe: What Happen Between God And Satan That Can't be Forgiven? by Janosky: 1:01pm On Mar 27, 2022
Patosky4U:
Sometimes I do wonder that can't Satan just apologise to God so we can just go back to the garden of Eden naked? Beside God is the all forgiven God.

Please I will need clarification from those that have better knowledge on this issue
Satan is a perfect creature, likewise Adam.
Their sin is wilful disobedience to God which attracts dire consequences.
Satan can NOT repent, forgiveness not possible.
Christianity EtcRe: God Hates Divorce But What Do You Do When One Party Walks Out Of A Marriage? by Janosky: 12:45pm On Mar 27, 2022
Mharvis:
Hello Wonderful people of God,

So I was going through a topic on the front page yesterday about a wife telling her husband that she isn't interested in the marriage again but the husband didn't want divorce.

Now for the Christians among us, you and I know that God hates divorce. No need to start quoting many scriptures you're already aware of but what happens when one of the parties in the marriage isn't interested in the marriage again??

Just to add personal experiences,

1. My ex-colleague's husband walked out of her marriage of 5 years because she couldn't get pregnant, the husband put another woman in the family way and told her people to return the bride price he paid. Guess what? She's just 31.. What would you advise her to do as a Christian? Remain like that because God hates divorce? At 31 years??

2. My former co-worker in campus fellowship walked out of her marriage because she was tired of hardship. She returned to her village and left the husband in Lagos. The marriage was just 3 years. All efforts to reconcile them didn't work. Another mutual friend called me last month that her husband is remarried, why would he do that? God hates divorce and all that... I had to ask her on phone that man isn't up to 35 years from what I know, what would you expect him do as Hanty no gree come backhuh

Share your thoughts people of God.
1 Corinthians 7:15 , you are NOT under bondage to your spouse who quits your marriage.
Get evidence of their hanky panky with other people & leave that marriage legally.

Matthew 19:9 sexual immorality of an unfaithful spouse is genuine reason for divorce, according to Jesus Christ.
Then, the innocent spouse can quit the marriage legally.
To forgive your unfaithful spouse is an honorable option,if you wish.
But NEVER succumb to undue pressure to remain with a violent community spouse.


OP, don't be DECEIVED by Pastorpreneurs peddling half truths & distortion of scriptures
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Christianity EtcRe: God Hates Divorce But What Do You Do When One Party Walks Out Of A Marriage? by Janosky: 12:24pm On Mar 27, 2022
Uprightness100:
Read your Bible sir! Re-marrying under any guise is adultery. Only Death Permits is to remarry.
What sort of rubbish is this?
Is Matthew 19:9 & 1 Corinthians 7:15 in your Bible?

You can divorce your unfaithful spouse on the grounds of sexual immorality.
Likewise, when your spouse departs without coming back to your home, & quits your marriage OR both of you play outside the arena,both of you have broken the marriage vows/covenant.
Death of a spouse & sexual immorality of an unfaithful spouse are legitimate reason for for divorce.

Oga, stop misleading your gullible followers
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Christianity EtcRe: False Preachers Who Come In Sheep Clothing by Janosky: 11:15pm On Mar 26, 2022
Emusan:
Yahweh taught John 1:1
Paul learnt from Jesus Heb 1:2, col 1:16
Apostolic teaching is first century Christians teaching
John 1:1 fact: ho Theos Jehovah his Father.
Theos without definite article ,"a god."
John 14:1 & Acts 12:22-24 Mounce Greek interlinear,Oga & confirm it yourself. grin grin
Hebrew 1:2 fact...
Jesus is God's Son.
God MADE the universe , NOT his Son. grin
Creation through his son... Colossians 1:16.
The same message in Hebrew 1:2.
The Son is agency ("through"wink of creation.
No be rocket science nau grin

Emusan:
Bible has already called Jesus God
Psalms 45:6-7 "thy throne given of God", genuine copy of Hebrews 1:8,different from the Trinitarian Fraud of Hebrews 1:8.
Confirmed by your Trinity mentors, in the Catholic church Jerusalem Bible.
Oga, go and confirm it yourself grin grin grin

Emusan:
Your organization added to John 1:1, Col 2:16-18

Change many Bible verses to suit their demonic doctrines just to confuse their worshippers of men grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Emusan are you drunk this night?
Why are you LYING?
According to the Screenshots of your fellow 3 deities Polytheists,biblehub, what is the definition of Theos?
"God/a god" , shey?

grin

JWs did NOT add anything.
JWs stuck to the correct definition of ho Theos & Theos @ John 1:1.
Emusan is a LIAR grin
Emusan:
After your research about these three points, let me know the outcome.
Emusan claims are GIBBERISH.

Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Spokesperson Claims They Do Not Baptist Children by Janosky: 10:52pm On Mar 26, 2022
achorladey:
Na your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING cause irrelevant response and illustrations like the below....
Shows us the law that states children aged 9,10 and 14 are not allowed to testify in a court of law or testifying in a court is meant for only men and women? grin grin grin
Oga, continue WAILING.
I have no problem with that.
achorladey:
That's the many problems of defending what does not originate with the scriptures but commands of men made to be seen as doctrines. You simply don't understand what ANYONE means, do you? grin grin grin
Why this stupid post?
Did your atheist friends categorize your day old to 12 months as infant?

I challenge you to prove that your 9 months old infant understands EVERYTHING that your 10 year old understand
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achorladey:
The NO GET SENSE PEDDLING continues. It is on the basis of that your anyone the religious organization you belong indeed baptized children and still went ahead to LIE that they don't baptize children.
A child whose hands are clean will dine with elders.

Does your culture permit all children to dine with elders?
Emphasis: it's about competency not age.

Oga continue WAILING upandan.
I have no problem with that.
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grin grin

achorladey:
The truth like humans aged 6 and above can be referred to as men and women

Those are the many truth accepted by the Mr NO GET SENSE and WAILINGS PEDDLER. grin grin grin
Make we fry beans?
Oga,How old was Prophet Samuel when he began service in the temple?


Achorladey is too dull
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Christianity EtcRe: Rev Ezekiel's Burial: Adeboye, Oyedepo, Ukpai, Wale Oke, Okonkwo Attend by Janosky: 10:28pm On Mar 26, 2022
RussellRutherfo:
Nonsense and Ingredients.

Only meant for those who don't read their Bibles but choose to be teleguided by the Governing Body liars.

The no more discreet slaves of Russell and Rutherford.
Rutherfo Can WAIL upandan but he is powerless to refute these Bible facts.
When definite article (g3588) precedes Theos as in ho Theos (the God), this refers to the Almighty God, Father of Jesus Christ.

Theos without definite article often always refers to "a god/gods" NOT the Almighty God.
Examples Acts 12:22 & Acts 28:6, 1 Cor 8:5.

John1:1 says Jesus Christ is a god, NOT ho Theos The God Almighty.
Read the Screenshots of Acts 12:22-24 & learn something...
"Ho Theos is God Almighty.
Theos is " a god ".
At 1 Corinthians 8:5, without definite article ('the/ho') Theos is "gods .
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Christianity EtcRe: Rev Ezekiel's Burial: Adeboye, Oyedepo, Ukpai, Wale Oke, Okonkwo Attend by Janosky: 10:23pm On Mar 26, 2022
RussellRutherfo:
1975 Doomsday False Prophecy Witch-Tower Babble Crap and Trash Tracts trolley Pushing Rutherford Guinea Pig ever-changing false teachings test Slave and 3-gods Polytheists who believes in Jehovah, Angel Michael and Satan as their gods.

Always foaming in the mouth from a disconnection of using your brain having handed it over to the 8-Men American Real Estate Armageddon alarmist but donation&Trust will receiving Cons.
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Rutherfo typing GIBBERISH grin cheesy

John 17:3, JEHOVAH is the only true God.
Oga, go and understand the meaning of "ONLY".
Rutherfo, you are very dull.
RussellRutherfo:
John 14:1 NASB20 — “Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe also in Me.

With the need of your Arain Heretic cult creating two gods which are: Jehovah and Angel Michael.
How do you reconcile that we are commanded by Jesus to believe in God and also believe in him?
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At John 14:1 Mounce Greek interlinear bible, did Jesus call himself ho Theos (the God)?
Capital NO grin grin grin

John 7:16, when Rutherfo doesn't believe in my messenger I sent, does Rutherfo believe in me?
Definitely no!
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RussellRutherfo:
#1
With the JW false teaching of Jesus made up as a created god and since Satan is a created god too then Do you believe in Jehovah and also in Satan?

#2
Of which of the other Sons of God on Earth or in Heaven even the so called Angel Michael, your God can claim direct command for us to believe in him same way we believe in YHWH?
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#1
James 4:7, "Oppose the Satan the devil."
John 14:1, did your Bible teach me to oppose Jesus?

#2.
Daniel 12:1 & 10:13, did Daniel believe in Archangel Michael sent to rescue him?
Rutherfo is very dull. grin
RussellRutherfo:
John 14:10 NASB20 — “Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own, but the Father, as He remains in Me, does His works.


Simple logic that these 1975 Doomsday False Prophecy Witch-Tower Babble bag carrying liars can't grasp. Jesus in HIS incarnate nature of flesh was perfect because the Invisible Father was in Him and HIM, the Visible expression of this Invisible Father as God thus the perfect works that can be seen of God unlike any other human. We try to model Jesus but is any of us really perfect? Nope. Our works are not. It is even worst with the cult: Jehovah witnesses that have made a mockery of the name Jehovah by giving the world false prophecies that will forever stand as a testament to the cult as a satanic shunning organization representing their god, Satan and not Jehovah.
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Rutherfo typing GIBBERISH grin
John 17:21, God & Jesus is in the disciples.
So, the disciples were God too?
Rutherfo too dull grin
RussellRutherfo:
Colossians 2:9 NASB20 — For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,

Psalm 138:2 KJV — I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

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Did king David worship Jesus?
Rutherfo misquotes holy scriptures.

RussellRutherfo:
You don dey get sense small. A result of being exposed constantly so you have to go do some little reading away from pupil babble crap JW Cult readings approved by the 8-Cons in US.

They even approved your going back to the Cult Kingdom Halls after the deaths of several Jehovah witnesses during the COVID-19 peak and seeing that "Apostates" are really exposing the various sales of Kingdom Halls to other religions and also many Jehovah witnesses in the West are currently fading with some leaving the cult. David Splane and Morris the drunk are having sleepless nights over this matter..
Rutherfo typing GIBBERISH
RussellRutherfo:
It was this glory that Moses earnestly desired to see in Exodus 33 but was not granted him. Even in the New Jerusalem ( the New Heaven and the descent of the New Earth from the New Heaven so that the Tabernacle of God will be with Men).
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Oga, don't misquote what you don't know. grin grin
RussellRutherfo:
What Jehovah witnesses erroneously call Paradise which is only Heaven replacing this evil Earth. YHWH the invisible father will still not be visible rather HE will illuminate all as the new System Sun and it is HIS Visible Word/Logos/Lamb who is God (true God from true God) and not created god from true God thus making two gods like the JW Cult bag carriers erroneously teach that will still be the God himself resident with Men(Revelation 22:3)..
Adam lived in paradise. Did Adam live in heaven?
Rutherfo wedded to GIBBERISH.
RussellRutherfo:
#1
All will now see this Glory. A partial one was given to the disciples and first century Christians. Something that Moses, Abraham begged and pleaded for but didn't get. The full Glory of God evident as Christ Jesus will be made available to all in the New Jerusalem (2 Corinthians 3:18).

#2
I love how this translation puts John 1:18.
John 1:18 NLT — No one has ever seen God. But the unique One, who is himself God, is near to the Father’s heart. He has revealed God to us.
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#1.
At the transfiguration,Whose voice calls Jesus "my son"?

#2 "" who is himself God", that is a DUBIOUS insert smuggled into the holy scriptures by Trinitarians.
Very fraudulent con artists grin
RussellRutherfo:
Senseless considering that Abraham is not Invisible. Use your sense a little. Kindergarten Analogy for you: The Air or Oxygen we breathe is invisible but it can be bagged and once it is bagged it becomes a thing that is sold but all around you we live in this invisible oxygen and it is in us. Our human bodies as it stands can't do without it. We can say that Oxygen is Man and Man is oxygen. One is invisible and one is visible. It is same way with the Father and HIS Visible Word: Jesus who took on flesh in John 1:14. You only appreciate oxygen because of what value it brings man. Same way any man can only know the invisible father by Honouring the visible God that is the man called Jesus Christ who is our only mediator.

Woodenhead. The father is invisible. What side of oxygen is man dwelling by since oxygen is everywhere in our atmosphere that we as humans live in?!!.
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Rutherfo GIBBERISH,off point. grin
RussellRutherfo:
John 5:18 NASB20 — For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.


The Jews who even lived in the so called not so technological times even have sense more than you to recognize that this Jesus made Himself equal with God by HIS words and deeds but Rutherford slave no get sense to know.

Matthew 12:8 NASB20 — “For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”


Jesus as the Kyrios (LXX) or Jehovah or YHWH of the Sabbath. The Jews understood clearly unlike you blockhead Janosky that Jesus directly claiming God. They had sense unlike you..
Does Calling God your Father make Jesus or John equal to God"?
Mbanu !!!!

Rutherfo GIBBERISH is luminous.
RussellRutherfo:
Isaiah 58:13-14(Perverted JW NWT translation):
13 If because of the Sabbath you refrain* from pursuing your own interests* on my holy day
And you call the Sabbath an exquisite delight, a holy day of Jehovah, a day to be glorified,v
And you glorify it rather than pursuing your own interests and speaking idle words,
14 Then you will find your exquisite delight in Jehovah,
And I will make you ride on the high places of the earth.w
I will cause you to eat from* the inheritance of Jacob your forefather,x
For the mouth of Jehovah has spoken.”

Leviticus 23:3 (Perverted JW NWT translation):
3 “‘Six days work may be done, but on the seventh day is a sabbath of complete rest,+ a holy convention. You may not do any sort of work. It is to be a sabbath to Jehovah wherever you dwell.

Cease from your works of blasphemy of the Jehovah of the Sabbath: Jesus Christ or when you die. You will face the second death at the hand of the Lamb just like any Israeli who desecrated the Sabbath of Jehovah was put to death(Exodus 31:14). You are only wasting your time as a puppet of Satan through your dead decomposed occultic mediator: Rutherford.
The Jews NEVER at anytime believe Rutherfo GIBBERISH grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Spokesperson Claims They Do Not Baptist Children by Janosky: 9:39pm On Mar 26, 2022
achorladey:
The WAILING peddler cannot stop peddling WAILINGS and he will have to deny lie and save the face of religious organization he belongs by bringing analogy that keeps NAILING the hypocrisy of the religious organization you belong that they baptized children. grin grin grin

Had you reason well enough you will have SHOW us where in the Bible that states BAPTISM is not for infant or BABIES grin grin grin but for MEN and WOMEN grin grin grin
6 years old is not a baby or infant.
Your atheist friends have proven your DUBIOUS claim can't hold water.

Oga, Argue with your atheist friends
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Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Spokesperson Claims They Do Not Baptist Children by Janosky: 9:33pm On Mar 26, 2022
achorladey:
Na strong evidence that you still baptized children.

Humans aged 10,11, 12 and 15 are not addressed as MEN and WOMEN? Are they? Jackson got baptized at 13 na children or man e be?

The image posted above says


Church teaches...... Infant baptism

Then the Bible teaches........ that it is men and women that were baptized.


To save the face of the religious organization you belong caught in the same accusations you point at others you you added the below.....



Babies and children grin grin grin grin omo iya ni won. Omo la n pe gbogbo won grin grin

Thinking you can remove the rope hanging on the neck of the religious organization you belong you equally added another evidence that you indeed baptize children deflecting that others baptize babies is a strong case for that. After all, what are Babies? Are babies not CHILDREN? grin grin grin



Na Jesus be their spokesman now. Is this not Jehovah’s organization? grin grin grin An organization that is a person at law will not get spokeman grin grin grin. Awon highly knowledgeable people.
But you have no issues with your atheist friends acceptance of testimony of 9,10 or 14 years old in a court of law.

Anyone clearly ahead of his or her age, who easily overcome the level of knowledge and understanding required of an adult can get baptized.

Timothy learnt the truth and accepted it while Achorladey a "knowledgeable atheist" rejects
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Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Spokesperson Claims They Do Not Baptist Children by Janosky: 9:22pm On Mar 26, 2022
achorladey:
I remember of one his brother in Jehovah trying to prove their correctness over baptizing children as low as 9,10 and still saying they are not children and that Jehovah's witnesses don't baptize children grin grin
But Achorladey WON'T WAIL upandan about that 9,10 or 14 years old giving evidence in a court of law when the testimony will prove Achorladey's innocence.

Achorladey Hypocrite
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Spokesperson Claims They Do Not Baptist Children by Janosky: 9:16pm On Mar 26, 2022
achorladey:
When they see the image below. They know that what they accuse others doing is what they do.
Continue LYING & WAILING oooo!
Or read the Screenshots & receive SENSE.
The Bible is against infant baptism. Yes!
Your atheist friends wey know book pass you said 6 years old is NOT an infant.

achorladey:
All of a sudden from 6 years old human can be called men and women to accommodate the kind of baptizm they do. grin
Continue WAILING oooo!
When a 6 years old is the only witness at a crime scene you were accused of a crime, is that 6year old testimony competent to prove your innocence?

Christianity EtcRe: False Preachers Who Come In Sheep Clothing by Janosky: 4:57pm On Mar 26, 2022
Steep:
Repent and believe in Jesus janosky.
Oga, you saw 3 solid evidences you can't refute grin.
JWs believe in John 20:17,31.
Trinity na Scam.
Christianity EtcRe: Rev Ezekiel's Burial: Adeboye, Oyedepo, Ukpai, Wale Oke, Okonkwo Attend by Janosky: 4:36pm On Mar 26, 2022
donb06:
John 1:1-5
When definite article (g3588) precedes Theos as in ho Theos (the God), this refers to the Almighty God, Father of Jesus Christ.

Theos without definite article often always refers to "a god/gods" NOT the Almighty God.
Examples Acts 12:22 & Acts 28:6, 1 Cor 8:4-5.

John1:1 says Jesus Christ is a god, NOT ho Theos The God Almighty.
Read the Screenshots & learn something.
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Christianity EtcRe: Rev Ezekiel's Burial: Adeboye, Oyedepo, Ukpai, Wale Oke, Okonkwo Attend by Janosky: 4:25pm On Mar 26, 2022
RussellRutherfo:
Is your word not you?
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John 15:3
"You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you"

John 17:17 "Your word is truth"

3 deities Polytheists always confuse [b]"your word"
and "the word"

Because of definite article ("the"wink, 'the Word' is a spirit being in heaven living with his Father and God.

"Your word" is a spoken/written statement/speech.
Very different things.


RussellRutherfo:
God the Father is Invisible that no one has seen.
Yes. Scriptural, Exodus 33:19-20. John 1:18.
RussellRutherfo:
His visible Word, the Unique One who is resident in HIM.
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Not true.
NOT holy scripture.
Do You believe Lazarus is resident inside Abraham?
John 1:18, Jesus is dwelling at his Father's side.
Scripture.
RussellRutherfo:
as the Logos took on flesh to be seen and to price the one time offer for the remission of sins for all who believe.

Jesus is thus God. Same way your consciousness is also you.
John 5:37, according to your Bible, according to Jesus, did God come to earth & seen by men?

Matthew 27:46, did God call himself "my God,my God"?
Did men kill your God?
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Argue against Jesus Christ, Polytheists worshipping 3 deities grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Mistakes Of Constantine That Birthed The Trinity Doctrine, Paganism With Chr by Janosky:
Emusan:
No wonder your blood is boiling grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

When your ignorance always put you in big shame.

The point isn't there are not PEOPLE for God but are we having EVERLASTING LIFE through people/organization/group? Or must we belong to an organization/group before we have everlasting life?

So you can see how dull you are!
Was Paul at John 9:4?

Did Paul join the "WE/People" of John 9:4 & Acts 15:14?
Did Cornelius join the People bearing JEHOVAH'S name @ Acts15:14?

Paul and Cornelius get SENSE pass Emusan and all 3 deities Polytheists.
Emusan too dull . Chai grin grin grin

Emusan:
I know this will happen and the reason I keep it low at first

Calling you JaNosense, is a hit point for a reason grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Now here is my point of singularity about your post

Whosoever from the Jews and Gentiles believe the good news, Acts15:7-9, IS chosen to bear Jehovah's name,Acts 15:14-17

Only if your dull brain will allow you to understand the @underlined

Like I said, you can keep bringing tons of verses you like but never will they match John 3:16, John 1:12, John 20:31.

Besides, my main point here, is that we don't need to belong to organization/group to have everlasting life.

According to John 3:16, John 1:12, John 20:31
Everyone who believes in John 3:16, John 1:12, John 20:31 joins the Group/People of John 9:4 & Acts 15:14.
Polytheists brains can't comprehend that. grin


Emusan:
That is why I gave you a hint how watchtower can twist John 3:16 as they usually do to other scripture like this "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only group/organization, that my chosen people will believe in them and shall not perish but have eternal life." cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

I didn't see WHOSOEVER BELIEVE in a group/organization will have everlasting life here grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
Whosoever from the Jews and Gentiles believe the good news, Acts15:7-9, IS chosen to bear Jehovah's name,Acts 15:14-17
Whosoever from the Jews and Gentiles believe the good news joins the Organization , Group/People chosen to bear Jehovah's name.
Examples Paul, Cornelius, Timothy, Moses to etc.

Emusan:
The thing dey pepper this worshipper of 8 old men in Brooklyn for body grin grin cheesy grin grin cheesy grin

After JaNosense has been shifting from verse to verses about single verse John 20:31he earlier quoted but still couldn't find having everlasting life through organization
Was Paul at John 9:4?
Was Cornelius at John 9:4?
No !
They joined the "WE/"People of Acts 15:14 chosen to bear Jehovah's name.
Oga, copy their examples.

Emusan & 3 deities Polytheists just pay lip service to the holy scriptures.
They always argue against Jesus Christ & the holy scriptures.
TUEH!!!!
Christianity EtcRe: More Accusations Surface Against Hillsong Co-founder Brian Houston by Janosky:
Image123:
i see the imposed illiteracy from the sad hallway is affecting you. If you can read, you'll notice that i don't go around calling every dickk and harry my brother unlike you
Oga produce the proof where Janosky is , according to you,"calling every dickk and harry my brother" unlike you, Image123.
Image123:
where your life goal is to tell us about your big Jwickedness family and how you are so united and in love with your follies.
Oga,if your stupidity is NOT luminous, provide the evidence for your DUBIOUS claim &folly.

Image123:
If you were allowed education, you would know that Jesus's brethren are not three deities or what nonsense you keep parroting, neither are they cultists like you.
Oga, when & where did you see the FALSEHOOD you have posted?
I challenge you to come here with evidence.
Better still, tell us your gods of men taught you Jesus brethren are your 3 equal deities.

Image123:
Jesus's brethren are those who have been born of God the Spirit and are obedient to the Bible. You need a cure from the Asleep diarrhea.
Oga,cure your delusions of posting FALSE claims as if they were facts.
JWs firmly believe in Matthew 12:48-50.
Matthew 12: 49-50.
"Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven(D) is my brother and sister and mother.”
Christianity EtcRe: More Accusations Surface Against Hillsong Co-founder Brian Houston by Janosky: 1:49pm On Mar 26, 2022
johnw47:
[s]lost fraud jw janosky

how you continue to love to blaspheme The Father and The Son and The Holy Spirit of the bible,
calling them, godheads/dogheads



and The Holy Spirit of the bible you love to blaspheme calling Him, the ole demon ghost



Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.

1Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire[/s].
godhead, Godheads is NOT Greek scriptures.
Theoites is, meaning divine nature.
E done tayy JohnW Fraud lost SENSE
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Christianity EtcRe: False Preachers Who Come In Sheep Clothing by Janosky: 10:52pm On Mar 25, 2022
Steep:
Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.


False teachers/prophets are always attractive, they are always people-pleasing, they do everything to present themselves as harmless, fun to be with, catchy, they can entice unsuspecting victims with money, gifts etc all to make people come to them not out of genuine concern for their needs but to draw them close and so that they can give them listening ears.
By their fruits you know them, they appear all smiling but their mission is to draw people down to hell with themselves.
False teachers do not release all their poison at once they release it gradually, most times mixing it with the truth so victims do not realise on time.


No1.
One character of a false teacher is that they are not under authority of the apostles, they are independent, they may claim to be from Jesus directly, their teachings are not inline with the apostlic teachings.

2
They always bring some form of new light or inspirations or new knowledge.

3.
Some establish a sect, some even review the whole Bible edit and add extra to it or remove from it.

Their teachings may claim to expand, add research assumptions etc into the bible to balance things.


Their fruit is heresy, they cause apostasy, bring reproach to the name of christ and encourage sin and lawlessness.

Matthew 16:6 Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Beware of the leaven of pharisees.
Case study: Trinity doctrine.
1.
Jesus teaching; John 20:17.
Paul learnt from Jesus: 1 Corinthians 11:3, 3:23.
Jesus teaching is apostolic teaching.

2.
It took 30 years for the Trinity mentors to tag Jesus as "God"
Over 20 years passed before they tagged ghost as "God"

3.
Trinity mentors removed & added to
1 Timothy 3:16 & added to 1John 5:7.
In their Greek lexicon of John 1:1, the Trinity mentors removed a Greek word (g3588) in 2nd sentence of John 1:1.
They didn't remove g3588 from John 4:24 lexicon and John 14:1 & Acts 3:13 lexicons.
Why?
They intended to confuse gullible people with Trinity GIBBERISH.

Go do research & confirm these 3 facts make you no vex for this comment.
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Christianity EtcRe: More Accusations Surface Against Hillsong Co-founder Brian Houston by Janosky: 9:39pm On Mar 25, 2022
Image123:
i don't know these people you refer to from Adam
grin grin grin grin
Your Stupidity & hypocrisy is very luminous.

Is your 3 deities believers indicted for 96% child abuse cases not your brothers in the Lord?

Does Janosky know from Adam the JWs allegedly accused in Australia?


Oga,Your fellow 3 deities worshippers who receive Jesus Christ as their lord and personal saviour molested vulnerable children in Australia.
That's an established fact.
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Image123:
on the other hand the over 1000 molesters are your brothers and family. Kindly deal with your family issues. Even if it is 0.000000%, it is still over 1000 human beings you molested and it's on your record.
Hypocrite grin grin
Likewise, your brothers in the Lord receiving Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior molested over 100,000 Australian children.
Deal with the child abuse pandemic of your brothers in the Lord.

Las,las ,All of una go still congregate for the World Council of Churches.
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Ghana won this match 1 nil.
RomanceRe: Guys Have You Ever Regretted Aborting A Baby And Does The Memory Still Haunt You by Janosky: 7:32pm On Mar 25, 2022
jaelz:
So today I went for the induction ceremony of a close family friend and the mum to the overall best medical graduating medical student was giving a speech about how she almost aborted him because she got pregnant as teenager out of carelessness and the father didn't want anything to do with the baby so she almost aborted him.

She ended by saying: "God I would have never forgiven myself if I had aborted this baby"

This had me wondering guys if you have ever aborted or failed to abort a baby and how it made you feel on the long run, are you thanking God you didn't or you are happy you did and if you did does the guilt still hunt you till today?
Oh boy those living in regret no get liver to own up in public to infanticide they committed long ago.

Most of them are still childless today & living with regret because of the sins of their youth.

Someone,a guy confided that "had I knew, I wouldn't have aborted those babies then (late 1990s)".

His marriage is almost 7 years old, still childless.
No medical issues, he said all texts conducted gave them clean bill of health.

May JAH have mercy youths today who view abortion and sexual immorality as "sport."
SportsRe: Sergio Aguero Accuses Press Of Bias Towards Man Utd: Everybody Supports Them! by Janosky: 7:13pm On Mar 25, 2022
Maxymilliano:
https://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/man-city-hero-aguero-accuses-press-of-bias-towards-man-utd-everybody-supports-them-4408750?utm_source%3Dgoogle-newsstand%26utm_medium%3Drss-feed%26utm_campaign%3DFeed-Latest%2BArticles%2Bfor%2BPremier%2BLeague
Very correct statement from Aguero Kun.
English pundits disrespect the opposition a whole lot more when playing against Man UTD than against England 3lions.
Christianity EtcRe: More Accusations Surface Against Hillsong Co-founder Brian Houston by Janosky: 6:43pm On Mar 25, 2022
Image123:
It's like linking me with you because we're both Nigerians, duh. Salvation is not in group or batch. It is personal. Everyone receives Jesus Christ as personal Lord and Saviour and has a personal responsibility and relationship in the journey. There is working together for God in unity not in stupidity like you seem to understand it.

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Oga, What sort of hypocrisy and stupidity is this?
The Australian Royal Commission discovered that 96% of child abuse cases in Australia were done by your fellow believers "receiving Jesus Christ as personal Lord and Savior"

Oga, go & clean up the sexual abuse pandemic in Christendom.
Charity begins at home grin
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Image123:
Get your cult in order and stop molesting thousands of people and gloating over others.
This Hypocrite dey see 1.7% allegedly attributed to JWs but him hypocrisy no see 96% child abuse pandemic in Christendom.
grin grin

In this clime,Your Pastorpreneurs are being called out weekly for one issue of abuse or the other.
Oga, REMOVE the rafters in Christendom.
Christianity EtcRe: More Accusations Surface Against Hillsong Co-founder Brian Houston by Janosky: 1:20pm On Mar 25, 2022
Image123:
Evidently, you are either crazy or have left your brain in the sad hallway. i have no link, idea or connection to most of the names and bodies you mentioned.
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You have no link to Pentecostals, Baptists, Catholics and all your 3 deities worshippers indicted by the Australian Royal Commission.
Yet, you & them share membership of C.A.N. in your homeland.

Oga, continue DECEIVING yourself.
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grin grin.
Image123:
You on the other hand are a notorious cult member.
Incurable bigot making spurious claims.
Your sifia pains are luminous. grin

Image123:
And here you are rejoicing that your cult hiding more than 1000 cases of molestation is better than some other people. You need help, yet you came on the thread to mock one man. Meanwhile you are hiding over 1000men in the same country Houston is based. Hypocrite.
You are the hypocrite,hide your head in shame.
How does 1.7% has no comparison with your 3 deities worshippers 96% (over 120,000 cases) culpability for the same crime?
Read the Screenshots of your 3 deities worshippers child abuse pandemic in Christendom indicted by the Australian Royal Commission.
To add sort to injury, they rejected the Recommendation put forward by the ARC.
Oga, remove the rafters in Christendom
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Christianity EtcRe: The Mistakes Of Constantine That Birthed The Trinity Doctrine, Paganism With Chr by Janosky: 12:58pm On Mar 25, 2022
Emusan:
If you have sense, you'd have seen this post of yours "is singularity" perhaps individuals but because no iota of sense up there, you won't see it. cheesy cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Shame on you, Emusan LIENUS LYING is in your genes grin.
Acts 15:7-9,14 has exposed you !


At the meeting, after long discussion, Peter stood and addressed them as follows: “Brothers, you all know that God chose me from among you long ago to preach the Good News to the Gentiles so that they also could believe."

Emusan, Acts 15:7,14 is "Gentiles" singular term?

Is " they" singular?
Verse 9, is "them & " us" singular terms.
Verse 13, is " brothers " a singular term?



13 When they had finished, James took the floor. “Brothers,” he said, “listen to me. 14 Peter has told you about the time God first visited the Gentiles to take from them a people to bring honor to his name."
Emusan:
If not because you're too dull, did I say God will pay EVERYONE with everlasting life?

Even 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 is still about individuals that is "ANYONE who rejected Christ."

My point is on John 20:31 which says "WHOSOEVER believe" not that you must belong to an organization cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

I know you lack simple comprehension.



But is John 20:31 about MY SERVANTS or what to do to have everlasting life? cheesy grin cheesy grin



The same servants that are still wicked at 2 chronicles 7:14

You forgot to pick your brain from Hall bah



I've dealt with those verses and the truth is that no one can be compared to John 20:31



It's evident you don't have any meaningful thing to say again.

Dangote isn't about John 20:31 or is it?

At least you can see beyond reasonable doubt that no organization was mentioned in the scripture as John 20:31, 3:16, 1:12 emphasize more on it.

[s]So follower of 8 old men idol worshipper relax your mind cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin[/s]
This guy who calls himself Emusan is just too dull for this conversation.

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Christianity EtcRe: The Mistakes Of Constantine That Birthed The Trinity Doctrine, Paganism With Chr by Janosky: 12:42pm On Mar 25, 2022
TruthinAction:
Hi

Jesus is the same class as God. Like begat like.
Isaiah 45:5
World English Bible
"I am Yahweh, and there is none else. Besides me, there is no God"
God has already said your Trinitarian Hebrews 1:8 is a FRAUD.
Oga,are you ready to receive SENSE?

TruthinAction:
1.Man gives birth to man.
2.God give birth to God.
3.Jesus is the express image of the invisible God.
Oga,Your claim is Flawed & FALSE grin grin
Your third sentence faulted & flawed your first & 2nd sentence.
Has any Man given birth to himself/Woman given birth to herself?
NEVER!
According to you ,"God give birth to God."
Jesus Christ is NOT the invisible God.
Jesus in heaven is the image,a carbon copy, a resemblance of the invisible God.
Just as you are a carbon copy, resemblance, spitting image of your parents.

Oga, God did not give birth to himself.
Remove that FALSE theory from your brain
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TruthinAction:
If you see Jesus, you have seen God. And their are scriptures to substantiate this claims.
Oga, let me ask you this question:
If I receive the Messenger you sent, have I received you?
John 7:16 & Matthew 10:40 makes perfect SENSE.
When you see a Messenger, you have seen his Oga that sent him (the Messenger).

TruthinAction:
Don't be an agent of darkness to dishonour Jesus.
Oga, don't dishonor Jesus Christ by making spurious claims.
TruthinAction:
He has a God, who is his father and he is himself God. This is why he is worshipped and he accepts worship.
Oga Polytheist,You worship 2 GODS, that's your cup of tea.
Oga, is John 20:17& John 9:4 in your Bible?
@ John 20:17 & John 9:4,How many GODS did Jesus Christ teach you he worship?

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