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Emusan:
But Paul, Peter and Early Christians worshipped Jesus which means they know about Trinity

edoairways:
I said blood transfusion not MouthAction. The issue of MouthAction is a different topics entirely

effort1:
Focus on what we are discussing and stop acting as if you've been defeated.

Blood transfusion is not a sin and doesn't contravene the scriptures.

It only becomes a sin when you eat blood. Blood transfusion doesn't involve eating blood. You people misinterprete the scriptures and propagate your misinterpretation.

thinkmoney:
I have. Thanks

achorladey:
Another confirmation that you and your religious organisation are involve in teachings that are contradictory.

OLAADEGBU:
DL church doctrines are synonymous with the bible doctrines. It's only illiterates and haters of the truth that will confuse church administrations with bible doctrines and I don't expect you to discern the difference.

Acts 15:7-22, did the Council of Elders & Apostles make decisions based on the holy scriptures?
YES

Oga DON'T DECEIVE yourself.
Your LYING has been exposed

Acts chapters 6:1-5, chapters 15:2-4,6 is the Scriptural practice of Church Administration.
The believers sought the guidance & direction of the Council of Elders & Apostles in Jerusalem.

Acts 6:1-5, & 15:2-4,6 is NOT a Sole Proprietor/Pastorpreneur one man making decisions to suit his own whim to change his self imposed doctrines before he departs.

achorladey:
At least from this post you are trying to tell us your better performing performance group does not completely follow the Bible.

Learn.

Emusan:
No wonder they all hate their Old publications as if it's not the work of Jehovah and his mouthpieces

achorladey:
The reason they hide under light getting brighter and brighter

Romans 13: 1 Russell.............It means governmental powers of men.......UNCLEAN

Romans 13: 1 Rutherford......It means governmental powers of Jehovah...... CLEAN
Romans 13 : 1 Knorr and those that follows it means governmental powers of men..........UNCLEAN


Years back disfellowshipment or excommunication are rooted in PAGANISM doesn't exist in the Bible. In fact they are TERRORISM and TERRORIST acts carried out by the other religious denominations on their members l


Today, disfellowshipment or excommunication are loving provision from Jehovah. It finds it foundation in the Bible


The contradictions no be child's play. It is still on going and they keep hiding behind light getting brighter or IMPERFECT SPIRITUAL FOOD

Acts 1:8 & Matthew 10:6,Did Jesus Christ CHANGE his doctrines?

YES !!
See this hypocrite & enemies of Jesus gospel DECEIVING themselves?

What happened at the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD & the Council of Constantinople in 381AD?

60 good years apart before your Trinity mentors elevated Jesus Christ to divinity status and later catapult una ghost to divinity status.
Achorladey & him Trinity crew are Hypocrites .

Emusan:
No wonder they all hate their Old publications as if it's not the work of Jehovah and his mouthpieces

Me LIENUS DECEIVING himself

2 Corinthians 13:11
"Finally, brothers and sisters, rejoice, continue to MEND YOUR WAYS....."

JEHOVAH'S servants will continue to obey the holy scriptures @2 Corinthians 13:11 while you continue WAILING & DECEIVING yourself.

achorladey:
Watchtower of November 1,1917, published a year after Russell’s death,
contained an article titled:

“A Tribute to the Seventh Messenger.” In part,

it said: The great drama of the Gospel Age opened with the apostle Paul as the chief messenger, or angel, to the Church. It closes with Pastor Russell as the seventh and last messenger to the Church militant. For the other five epochs of the Church, the Lord provided messengers in the order named;

St. John, Arius, Waldo, Wycliffe and Luther.

Each in his turn bore the message due to be understood during the epoch he represented.

The two most prominent messengers, however, are the first and the last: St. Paul and Pastor Russell


Where in the Bible can you find such teachings?

This are the numerous examples that their teachings are not wholly from the Bible.

OLAADEGBU:
Watchtower literature.
Can you find the word 'grandfather' in the authorised version of the bible?

Bible believers and not Watchtower believers.

edoairways:
They teach heresies especially as it relates to blood transfusion. Their argument against it is too weak especially their scriptural backing

achorladey:
Where in the Bible did it say Jesus returned spiritually in 1914? We go see whether they teach heresies or not.

achorladey:
In reality most motivational pentecostal churches too draw out their teachings from the bible. Case closed. They can draw more from the Bible and merry go round with it in circles without really going anywhere with it.

Na the same denominator Jehovah’s witnesses share regarding the truth. They too don't welcome the truth when it goes against their established policies, process and procedures.

Na you talk sey they don't preach HERESIES. Why is the blood issue different

You have a fundamental right to type GIBBERISH.
Exercise it.

Tickles001:
No. They don't.

They draw their teachings from the bible even more than most motivational pentecostal churches out there.

The thing is just that people don't usually welcome the truth. Especially, when it challenges what they've been raised to believe.

The blood transfusion thing is a different issue. I don't totally agree with them on that one.

PastorMIsBack:
Christianity is monotheistic so I'm not sure what you mean.

thinkmoney:
Thank you Janosky. You really helped to make things clear here.
Are you a witness. I am not anyways, but I see they are the closest to how the bible described the organisation of God will look like.

thinkmoney:
Ok, @Janosky have given a very logical and sincere response using other translations that are traditionally leaning towards trinity.
You see, Devil is crafty and powerful. He has been using many means to fight and obscure the truth in the bible. Some translations possibly due to limited knowledge or even mischief, have in some areas confused the message of the bible. Some where written hundreds of years ago and have not given diligent consideration to how language changes overtime. This translations need serious updating.
There are much more older bible versions though that are in the original, hebrew, aramaic and Greek languages. Diligent study of theses texts and the traditions, culture and language style of the time they record, shows that the bible have no contradictions whatsoever. They are consistent with the message that Jesus is a lesser partner of God the father. Jesus depended on him for power and authority. Jesus begged him to make the gloom fate pass over. Jesus trusted him to raise him back up. Jesus explicitly said he is lesser than him. Jesus even told Satan that this almighty God is the only one worthy of worship. Satan couldn't have tempted this God the father...with what? He dey madt?

JuanDeDios:
The talk about "many gods" is just being half-clever here. The text says "O God", not "gods". The main point I see here is that the NWT ("the right translation" to you) renders Ps 45:6 differently. (Note that almost every transaction, including the KJV, disagree with the JW translation here).

Oga, you want to hear the truth?
Did any Jew say their human king is "O God" ?
NEVER!!!
Rather,( @1 Chronicles 29:23, Luke 1:32) the king's throne is from God.
That is the long & short of Psalms 45:6-7.

Your Trinitarian mentors rendition "O God" is NOT the genuine Hebrew text of Psalms 45:6-7.
I have shown you the Screenshots evidences that most Trinitarian devotees & translators DISAGREE with your rendition "O God."
Yet, you love to argue against the truth.

JuanDeDios:
Now, how about John 1:1? What do you say about the fact that JW inserts an article "and the Word was a god" even though there was none in the original text ("and the word was God"?

Greek Theos mean "a god"/"God".(screenshot).
@ John 1:1, your fellow Trinitarian devotees REMOVED definite article "the/ho/tov" @ John 1:1 because they loved Trinity more than the Bible truth.
But they NEVER removed the same definite article @ Acts 12:22-23, John 14:1, John 4:24, Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear.

JuanDeDios:
We're using the Jerusalem Bible now? Thinkmoney, let's see if this man still relies on the Jerusalem Bible in his response to my last post.
.

JuanDeDios:
That should fault my argument that the JW use advanced tricks and mind techniques and not sound logic .

Ken4Christ:
What about the scripture which says, Let the angels worship him. And they actually worshipped him in the book of Revelation:

Revelation 5:12-13
12 Saying with a loud voice, WORTHY IS THE LAMB that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, AND UNTO THE LAMB for ever and ever.

JuanDeDios:
Hehehe. I see you've gone far. Ok, I'll bite, starting with the Trinity.

New International Version
Ps 45:6: "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom."

Who is referred to in this Bible verse?

tctrills:
Let me answer with some little questions of mine. this would make it very easy for you to understand
According to Isaiah 43:11. Jehovah is the only savior.
According to Acts 4:12, Philippians 3:20, 2 Timothy 1:10 Jesus Christ is the savior.
According to Obadiah 1:21, There would be Saviours in mount zion.

Is Jesus Christ the only Saviour spoken about in Isaiah? How many saviors do we have? Is Jesus Christ even our savior?

OLAADEGBU:
Jehovah's Witness doctrine is not from the Bible alone
by Matt Slick | Dec 6, 2008 | Jehovah's Witnesses, World Religions

Many of the Jehovah's Witnesses will tell you that they derive their doctrines from the Bible and only from the Bible.

In reality, they derive their doctrines from what the Watchtower says about the Bible. The following are various quotes that demonstrate this fact.


“Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible,” (Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1967, p. 587).
Additionally, the Watchtower says only its organization understands the Bible
“Only this organization functions for Jehovah’s purpose and to his praise. To it alone God’s Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book,” (Watchtower, July 1, 1973, p. 402).
“All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the “greatly diversified wisdom of God” can become known only through Jehovah’s channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave,” (Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1994, p. .
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Carm.org made references to Trinity.
Oga, you have dodged 3 simple questions I asked you

3 simple questions wey OLAADEGBU no fit answer:
Acts 2:33-36, did God resurrect himself?
Or you mean God resurrect another GOD?
Did God give himself this command: "Sit at my right hand?"

Oga, send these questions to your Trinity Mentors,carm.org, .

newguy365:
Acts 10:28 !!
He said to them, "You know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with a foreigner or visit him. But God has shown me that I should not call any man impure or unclean.

You guys reek of ignorance, hypocrisy, and hate. Spits

OLAADEGBU:
DL church doctrines are synonymous with the bible doctrines.

OLAADEGBU:
It's only illiterates and haters of the truth that will confuse church administrations with bible doctrines and I don't expect you to discern the difference.

OLAADEGBU:
We are talking about your Watchtower literature here. Are you in competition with the Holy Bible? Why trust your corrupted Watchtower literature more than the Bible?

OLAADEGBU:
Even you twisted and changed the truth of the bible to suit your own false narratives.

Oga, console yourself with FALSE claims.
You have no proof.
Matthew 26:31-35,56,69-75 caught OLAADEGBU napping.

OLAADEGBU:
See the way you are fighting for your Watchtower magazine. I've never seen you defend Jehovah whom you falsely claim to be His witness. Could it be that you are actually a witness to the Watchtower magazine?

Did Watchtower write Matthew 26:31-35,56,69-75 in your Bible?
Na the truth in holy scriptures dey cause you sifia pains.
Kpele


OLAADEGBU is a hypocrite.

cornelboy:
Sorry bro. I can feel your frustration.

Just mention any Christian denomination that's totally following Christ teachings and the Bible today

Na only the JWs o.

OLAADEGBU:
Contradictions in Watchtower Literature
by Matt Slick | Apr 30, 2008 | Jehovah's Witnesses, World Religions

The Watchtower says it is God's only true organization: "Only this organization functions for Jehovah's purpose and to his praise. To it alone God's Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book," (Watchtower, July 1, 1973, p. 402). watchtower It claims to speak for God, yet it has produced numerous contradictory statements. Can you trust an organization that contradicts itself about so many things? No, you cannot. It is not God's organization.

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OLAADEGBU you are a hypocrite.

Is Kumuyi still changing the holiness doctrines of his business centers?

Yesterday's "devil's tool box" TV/radio is now deeper life satellite cable broadcast to All business centers.
Is your god of men still changing deeper life church doctrines?


OLAADEGBU, can you trust deeper life church doctrines & practices that kumuyi vowed to change before he departs?

Matthew 26:31-35,56,69-75, the disciples made similar contradictory statements.

OLAADEGBU Hypocrisy Weds bigotry.

Ken4Christ:
But there are instances where Jesus was worshipped both while on earth and after his ascension. And he accepted worships.

Matthew 9:18 While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and WORSHIPPED HIM, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.

Ken4Christ:
But there are instances where Jesus was worshipped both while on earth and after his ascension. And he accepted worships.

Matthew 8:2 And, behold, there came a leper and WORSHIPPED HIM, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.

Ken4Christ:
Matthew 28:9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and WORSHIPPED HIM.