Ammishaddai: You're right on the money with this post! Just watch him shamelessly quote another scripture to justify the delusions his cult holds over him
Your delusion is luminous. You OBEY the GIBBERISH from the pulpit of your cult of personality gods of men and Pastorpreneurs. You dey prove your stupidity dey label another person dey cult.
Yet, you dey vex to see the false predictions of Jesus disciples & Prophets in your own Bible. Ooh la la
Your organization has on countless occasions been proven to be a CULT.
Why don't you watch the video to the very end?
FEAR will not let you.
See delusion. Yet, you OBEY the laws of the land where you reside. For your obedience to the Government's rules and regulations, you are under the cult called "Government".
Ammishaddai: After watching that video and reading this link , I can swear on my late grandmother that your cult is filled with deep Falsehoods and deception. But don't argue with me o...argue with the facts in this post that's on Nairaland.com
P.S: No single JW came up to defend that post ...why ?
Your Christendom spiritual fathers punished the Gombe State Chairman of C.A.N , Sunday Congo, for pushing his own personal opinions.
1 Samuel 3:20 and 1 Samuel 16:6, JEHOVAH's prophet Samuel FALSE prediction is still in your Bible.
Matthew 26:31-35, Jesus Christ disciples FALSE predictions is still in your own Bible. Luke 24:19-20,25, Jesus Christ called them foolish because of their FALSE prediction he will deliver Israel. Did Jesus Christ deliver Israel from Roman oppression?
Ammishaddai , argue with Jesus disciples making false predictions in your Bible, Matthew 26:31-35 , Luke 24:19-20,25. Your spiritual Fathers punished Sunday Congo for his personal opinions, you kept your mouth shut, you are a hypocrite
MaxInDHouse: Don't mind Cornelboy jàre you're free to stay. We know you have nowhere to go except threads having to do with JWs. So enjoy the offer while it last!
paulGrundy: Jehovah’s Witnesses are told to have complete trust in the information the Governing Body provides them. Examples of numerous misquotes are included in this article, showing that such trust is not warranted. Jehovah’s Witnesses are utterly convinced that their church’s leadership - the Governing Body - is both trustworthy and unquestionable. They are assured that the information they are provided is well researched, accurate and truthful. Under the heading “Tracing All Things With Accuracy” the 2011 Yearbook states:
“In summary, the Writing Department insists on using only material that is accurate and truthful, even regarding seemingly insignificant details. As a result, “the faithful and discreet slave” can consistently supply spiritual food that brings honor to “the God of truth,” Jehovah.” (p.13)
Witnesses are told to put aside personal opinion regarding Scriptures, but rather have complete confidence in the leaders, as even Jehovah trusts them.
“[A mature Christian] does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding. Rather, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by Jehovah God through his Son, Jesus Christ, and "the faithful and discreet slave.” Watchtower 2001 Aug 1 p.14
“Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ completely trust the faithful and discreet slave, should we not do the same?” Watchtower 2009 Feb 15 p.27
“We are determined to be loyal to Jehovah and to his organization. This organization has never disappointed us and always gives us an abundance of pure waters of truth from God’s Word.” Watchtower 2011 Jul 15 p.12 Simplified Edition
External research is not recommended, as the Watchtower supplies all the information required.
“In Jehovah's organization it is not necessary to spend a lot of time and energy in research, for there are brothers in the organization who are assigned to that very thing, …” Watchtower 1967 Jun 1 p.338
“Thus “the Faithful and discreet slave” does not endorse any literature, meetings or websites that are not produced or organized under its oversight. … For those that wish to do extra Bible study and research, we recommend that they explore Insight on the Scriptures…” Kingdom Ministry Sep 2007
With such trust, Witnesses become impervious to the manner in which misinformation is presented. There are many ways of presenting information to mislead others, including total dishonesty, incorrect information, misrepresenting a person's position, misquotes, withholding information, use of ambiguous language and rhetorical fallacies. This article has specific examples of each from within the Watchtower.
Lying
1914 Quotes
The Watchtower has regularly lied about what it said prior to 1914, claiming it correctly predicted the occurrences of 1914, and has held to consistent teachings regarding that date.
Until the 1930's, the Watchtower taught that:
•The time of the end commenced 1799 •Jesus presence commenced 1874 •Jesus' heavenly rule in 1878
"There are two important here that we must not confuse, but clearly differentiate, namely, the beginning of "the time of the end" and of "the presence of the Lord". "The time of the end" embraces a period from A.D. 1799, as above indicated, to the time of the complete overthrow of Satan's empire and the establishment of the kingdom of the Messiah. The time of the Lord's presence dates from 1874, as above stated. The latter period is within the first named, of course, and at the latter part of the period known as "the time of the end"." The Harp of God (1921) p.231
"The year A.D. 1878 … clearly marks the time for the actual assuming of power as King of kings, by our present, spiritual, invisible Lord …" Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is At Hand (1911 ed) p.239
Yet it is now stated that the Watchtower "anticipated" Jesus would receive power in 1914.
"By linking the "seven times" of Daniel 4:25 with "the times of the Gentiles", they anticipated that Christ would receive Kingdom power in 1914." Watchtower 1998 Sep 15 p.15
"For over thirty years before that date and for half a century since, Jehovah's witnesses have pointed to the year 1914 as the time for the end of "the appointed times of the nations" and the time in which Christ would begin his Kingdom rule. (Luke 21:24)" Watchtower 1966 Feb 15 p.103
Likewise, it was originally predicted that the end was to occur in 1914, yet now it is wrongfully stated that 1914 was the "start" of the end.
"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble." Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226
"Jehovah's witnesses pointed to the year 1914, decades in advance, as marking the start of "the conclusion of the system of things." Awake! 1973 Jan 22 p.8
1914 was to be the start of the earthly resurrection.
"The beginning of the earthly phase of the Kingdom in the end of A.D. 1914 will, we understand, consist wholly of the resurrected holy ones of olden time-from John the Baptizer back to Abel;-"Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and all the holy prophets."" Studies In the Scriptures - The Day of Vengeance (1897) p.625 Now they claim their calculations were true.
"He had correctly linked the Gentile Times with the "seven times" mentioned in the book of Daniel. (Dan. 4:16, 23, 25, 32) True to such calculations, 1914 did mark the end of those times and the birth of God's kingdom in heaven with Christ Jesus as king. Just think of it! Jehovah granted his people that knowledge nearly four decades before those times expired." Yearbook 1975 p.37
"Decades before 1914, Jehovah's worshippers declared to the nations that the end of "the appointed times of the nations" would come in that year and that the world would enter into an unequaled period of trouble." Watchtower 2013 Feb 15 p.18
It was not declared that the world would enter the time of trouble in 1914, as the time of trouble was said to have started in 1874.
“…, and the time of trouble, or “day of wrath” which began October 1874 and will end October 1914;… “ Studies in the Scriptures - The Day of Vengeance p.604
Whilst, it is strictly correct that Russell declared the Gentile Times, or "appointed times of the nations", would end in 1914, these statements hide that nothing expected for the end of the Gentile Times came to pass.
Your Christendom spiritual fathers punished the Gombe State Chairman of C.A.N , Sunday Congo, for pushing his own personal opinions.
1 Samuel 3:20 and 1 Samuel 16:6, JEHOVAH's prophet Samuel FALSE prediction is still in your Bible.
Matthew 26:31-35, Jesus Christ disciples FALSE predictions is still in your own Bible. Luke 24:19-20,25, Jesus Christ called them foolish because of their FALSE prediction he will deliver Israel. Did Jesus Christ?
1. Fear of being destroyed during the war of Armageddon - just like other Christians fear Hellfire
Dump your GIBBERISH in the dustbin.
1 John 5:3, God's commands are not burdensome to the obedient.
oteneaaron: 2. Fear of being Shunned by your family and friends you have known all your life - because there is no honorable way to leave the cult.
But when you do your research into the history of the cult and come to the realization that they are not in anyway "God's Organization", you lose that FEAR.
More and more people are doing this research, getting bold and speaking out.
It is just time, but the breeze go de blow and their nyash go de open.
You are making a deceptive claim that Jesus Christ & his Father are cult leaders.
TUEH!
Every believer must obey JEHOVAH, John 7:16 & identify themselves with JEHOVAH's organisation, Hebrews 11:25 & Acts15:14.
Ammishaddai: Is that the latest excuse you're now giving falsehoods...? Lol... Kwantinue dey deceive yourself . Las las, na you get your palava inside deception
Did Jesus Christ teachings cause divisions in families?
Your so called "falsehoods" & "deception" you can't prove?
Ammishaddai: Is that the latest excuse you're now giving falsehoods...? Lol... Kwantinue dey deceive yourself . Las las, na you get your palava inside deception
Your so called "falsehoods" & "deception" you can't prove?
It is quite an old video, over 33 years now since this documentary was first produced.
Even though it is quite old, it is still very relevant to this very day.
Watch and let me know what you think.
Have a great Sunday!!
As far as Matthew chapter 10 verses 34 to 38 is concerned, Jesus Christ proven your video post is GIBBERISH.
34 "Don't suppose that I have come to bring peace to the Land. It is not peace I have come to bring, but a sword! 35 For I have come to set 36 a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, so that a man's enemies will be the members of his own household. [i]37 Whoever loves his father or mother more than he loves me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than he loves me is not worthy of me. [/i]38 And anyone who does not take up his execution-stake and follow me is not worthy of me. "
The teaching of Jesus Christ MUST cause divisions in families. Matthew 10:37,JWs love JEHOVAH & His Son Jesus Christ more than family ties.
johnw47: false jw's won't defend their families against armed terrorists and think that's being peaceful but they will talk non peaceful talk like hell = cowards:
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Bring proof you John W fraud defended your own " family against armed terrorists".
Correxs: Greek John 5:37 The God ho Theos NEVER came to the earth....
John 5:37 "And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape" @ John 5:37, is the statement directed to Adam & Eve? Definitely no ! John 1:18 says nobody has no ever seen God at any time"
: when God visited Adam and Eve in the garden (Gen 2:22, 3:, in what form do you think He visited them?....God visited Abraham (Gen 18:1-33) in human form. God even ate Abraham's food.Hebrews 13:2, Abraham ate with angels. John 15:15 & John 1:18, Apostle John was taught that Abraham NEVER did NOT see God,
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Correxs: Greek John 1:1, John 14:1, only the Father is ho Theos.
Yes! @ Greek John 1:1 & Greek John 14:1,Jesus Christ confirmed only his Father is ho Theos the God.
Correxs: ...and the Word was God...and [b]the Word (God) was made flesh... 1:14.
John 5:37 & John 3:16 Jesus says ho Theos (the God his Father) was NEVER made flesh. Oga,do you believe Jesus Christ?
was God = a god,godlike /like God. Acts 28:6 & John 1:1. (Screenshot for emphasis) Exodus 4:16 & Exodus 7:1 Moses was God, like God, godlike to the Israelites & Pharaoh. Are you getting it clearly?
Correxs: Greek John 4:23-24 The God & Father ho Theos is a spirit. Yes, God is a spirit that has the power to make Himself visible (Col 1:15). Jesus was the image of the invisible God.
Colossians 1:15, Jesus Christ is Creature in the image of the invisible God. Are you not a Creature in the image of the invisible God?
John 3:16 did God use His power to make himself visible? Oga, your claim versus Jesus statement. We know Jesus Christ is 100% accurate, but your claim, John 3:16 refutes it.
Correxs: John 3:16... Ho Theos the God sent his son Jesus Christ. Isaiah 8:6-7...unto us a son is given.....and his name shall be called ...mighty God...
You quote John 3:16 & read John 5:37, yet you refused to understand that the God ho Theos was never a Son.
Correxs: The name of God is Jesus ...John 17:6...I (Jesus) have manifested thy (God) name unto the men....
Oga, if you have to spend 24 hours to understand John 17:6-7, please do. Why would God refer to someone else as "manifest your name"? John 17:7, Why would God own nothing?
Correxs: Argue against Jesus Christ...If you understand the word of Jesus....you will know that God is the only one that give man eternal life. God said man shall die in the garden....and He (God) is the only one that can provide a solution to eternal death. Jesus is the son of God because he is the visible form of the invisible God.
John 5:37 & John 4:24 Jesus Christ says ho Theos the God his Father have no visible form.
Emusan: The Codex Vaticanus which is one of the oldest Greek manuscripts we know, have UMALUT at 1 John 5:7. Definitely, that was put there after removing the text by the old people working for your father the Devil
The same Trinitarian gebbrish that is giving you and your organization sleepless night
Paolo Bombace (known as Paulus Bombasius), Vatican Secretary during his lifetime, proven you are LYING on this public forum. Paulus Bombasius was in constant communication with Erasmus Desiderius , the clown who put the fraud in your textus receptus Bibles. Johanine Comma is NOT Holy scriptures.
Truvelisback: No matter how hard u try to explain the truth to him, he will derail ur ans and reply u something else that would be completely different from ur point. The truth is that, he knows u are right but because of the church(JW) he was raised and their doctrines won't want him to accept.
John 20:17, John and Jesus Christ worships only one God,ho Theos.
1 Corinthians 11:1-3, your Bible knows ho Theos the God of genuine servants of JEHOVAH.
Oga, continue to worship your 3 persons deities. Jesus Christ whom JWs copy, NEVER worship 3 deities
Correxs: You asked "Who was called Immanuel in The New Testament?" The purpose of the name Immanuel is to reveal the nature of person that will be born by a virgin woman. It does not mean that the Jews at the time of Jesus have to be calling him Immanuel; the name (Jesus) the people at the time would call him was given to Joseph. So in the New Testament, Immanuel was not meant to be people's first or second name. At the time, people who understood prophesy knew what the child that was born by a virgin was-God among humans. Quran affirms that Jesus was born of a virgin: Surah 3:47 She said, "My Lord, how will I have a child when no man has touched me?" [The angel] said, "Such is Allah; He creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, 'Be,' and it is. Surah 19: 19-21 He said, "I am only the messenger of your Lord to give you [news of] a pure boy [i.e., son]." She said, "How can I have a boy while no man has touched me and I have not been unchaste?" He said, "Thus [it will be]; your Lord says, 'It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign to the people and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter [already] decreed.'" To ask if the prophesy could be of another person other than Jesus, is to openly deny what is written in your Quran.
Greek John 4:23-24 The God & Father ho Theos is a spirit. Greek John 5:37 The God ho Theos NEVER came to the earth. Greek John 1:1, John 14:1, only the Father is ho Theos. John 3:16... Ho Theos the God sent his son Jesus Christ.
elated177: Antichristian, I need you to explain the following portion of the Scripture.
Matthew 22: 43;He said to them, “How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him ‘Lord’? For he says,
44 “‘YHVH said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet.”’ 45 If then David calls him ‘Lord,’ how can he be his son?”
Psalms 110:1-2 & Acts 2:34-36, who is the LORD (always in capital letters) superior to Jesus Christ? In heaven, who is commanded Jesus: "sit at my right hand"?
Correxs: Your question is 'Did Jesus Ever called Himself God in the Bible?....I want you to understand Jesus did not show any of his nature as God when he was in human form Philippians 2:5-6 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God".
John20:17,do Jesus Christ & Thomas worship the same God? Jesus says he is not equal to the God he ascended to meet.
Phillipians 2:5-6 Mounce Greek Interlinear and John 20:17, Jesus Christ and Paul proven that your quote of Phil 2:5-6 is NOT true.
Correxs: So you don't expect him to be calling himself God when he was still in human form. But after his death and resurrection, he was called God by Thomas and Jesus did not rebuke him, John 20:28 "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."
John 20:17, what did Jesus tell Thomas and all his disciples?
Correxs: When Jesus appeared to Paul (formerly Saul) on his way to Damascus, Acts 9:5 Paul asked..., Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest:..You can see Jesus answered Paul as the Lord.
According to your own Bible,Acts 2:34-36,in heaven who is the Lord superior to Jesus?
Correxs: Stephen was martyred mainly because he called Jesus God before the Jews. Acts 7:55 ...and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God (Jesus in the position of God),
and said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. Because Stephen said he saw Jesus in heaven as God..the Jews reacted by killing him.
Oga, @ Acts 7:55,did your Bible say "Jesus in the position of God"? Na you FORM the statement, NOT your Bible
Correxs: .. Acts 7 vs 59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. If you noticed Stephen was calling on the name of Jesus as God even at the point of death.
Go and check Acts 7:59 Mounce Greek Interlinear, "calling upon God" was DUBIOUSLY inserted by Trinitarian translators.
Correxs: .. Note: After the resurrection of Jesus: Thomas, one of the apostles called Jesus God; Jesus called himself Lord; and Stephen at the point of death called Jesus God. These are just few references from the Bible where Jesus is revealed as God. I advise you read the Bible to understand its message, rather than reading it to defend the message of Quran.
I have 4 questions for you:
Did your Bible at John 20:28 ends with exclamation mark (!)? The answer is Yes. When you say "oh my God!",are you referring to God in heaven?
John 20:17 & John 5:37, who is Jesus ascending to meet?
John 20:16-28, The doubting Thomas exclaimed surprise on seeing the proof of Jesus Christ resurrection. John 20:17, who did Jesus call "my God and your God?" Definitely not himself!
Acts 7:59, Mounce Greek Interlinear, Stephen NEVER claimed anything related to your claim.
OdogwuBlog: Chelsea: Man Utd legend, Rio Ferdinand reveals conversation with Lampard over Thiago Silva
Manchester United legend, Rio Ferdinand, has revealed his conversation with former Chelsea manager, Frank Lampard, concerning Thiago Silva.
Ferdinand said Lampard had indicated that Silva is on everything when Chelsea is working on tactics for the team, adding that the centre-back always wants to know what is going on and put his best into it. [color=#f6f6ec]Catholic Prayers For Lost Things[/color]
Silva played every minute of Chelsea’s FIFA Club World Cup final 2-1 victory over Palmeiras last weekend.
The Brazilian won the Player of the FIFA Club World Cup tournament.
Silva, 37, joined Chelsea from Paris Saint-Germain in 2020.
PSG will regret letting Thiago Silva go to Chelsea. He's won the UCL ,Club World Cup & UEFA Super Cup since leaving PSG. They brought a spent force in Sergio Ramos & he's not lived up to expectations at PSG.
maximunimpact: A JW will rather seek the help of witch doctors than pray for miracle. I was once advised by one JW woman to rub some charms in my lips for job interview success and i looked at her astonishingly but said since am not yet a baptized brother that there's nothing wrong with that.
Sandas11: Sweetheart pls do not believe everything u see on the internet. Some people go out of their way to manipulate facts and make things appear the way they really are not. Jehovah's witnesses encourages their members to pray for those in dire circumstances including the sick ones. They believe in miracles, miracles happen everyday. what they don't believe in is "faith healing". They also encourage their members to seek the best medical care when they are sick. Even then, as a matter of fact, taking drugs is not a guarantee, it's only the grace of God that can make you functional again.. That sweetheart, is a miracle in itself...
Christianity Etc › Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by Janosky: 10:34am On Feb 20, 2022
, in what form do you think He visited them?....God visited Abraham (Gen 18:1-33) in human form. God even ate Abraham's food.Hebrews 13:2, Abraham ate with angels.
