₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
There is nothing biblical about the doctrine since God never in fact gave to you(a gentile) or your JW church(a gentile group) are laws concerning blood to begin with. So please stop lying in the name of God.

domchike:
I wouldn't say they are cultics but I wil call them Ignorant and brainwashed bunchs

Bronzedigger:
Then why did she refuse the donations from a catholic church but wanted it from a personal account...

Bronzedigger:
it's either she doesn't understand her doctrine and has been foolishly living by doctrines she doesn't understand or she stands to be punishedif she accepts such donations.. it means many of your followers don't understand your doctrines..maybe because they don't have direct contact with the original owners of the denomination to explain these doctrines properly.. from Pennsylvania to Nigeria to igeduma to local congregations... the doctrine has really passed through a lot of filters so when it finally lands in the local congregation..it will be like dem say dem say talk...

Bronzedigger:
most of you JWs are now saying it's her choice to accept donations..

Bronzedigger:
where as she vehemently stated she didn't want help from a church..

Bronzedigger:
who can only give people such standards to live by if not another denomination feeling like they are in competition with every other denomination in the world... I don't see the choice she has here... why would someone choose death over life because of a doctrine..this only happens when they are promised better and greater things to achieve like these religious terrorist groups

achorladey:
That their set up get chains of command Legislators dey, Judiciary dey and the lower floor members bears the burden of all those [b]complex bureaucracy in place to run the organisation. The floor members are at the mercy of those given the position to interprete some of their laws, policies and regulations
Ordinary [b]members don't have access to it and the numerous cluases attached. Therefore they don't really know at what point they stepped over the line paapaa.

LYING, deceptive clown.
Everyone knows JWs do not participate in politics.
When & where did Achorladey the Electoral Commissioner conduct elections for JEHOVAH's servants?

achorladey:
. That she rejected the help offered from the Catholic Church or whatever stems from this bureaucracy in place.

achorladey:
See this as an example.... Do you know members are given instructions on how to participate in prayer organized led by any member of other Christian denominations which is done in the name of Jesus Christ?
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achorladey:
They even state clearly why they are not to say AMEN to such prayers when organized even if they call JESUS One million times [s]Should they stand or sit when such prayer is going on?

These are the bureaucratic policies and agenda passed to members on which members are always in a DILEMMA to follow such as cases like this thread.
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[s]Their conscience had been regimented by the powers that be long before those life threatening situations occur. Most of the time they are in a FIX about what they are really expected to do because those JUDICIARY(the elders in their midst are limited educationally and otherwise to really handle most of the policies they carry about[/s].

MaxInDHouse:
Hahahaha!
Surely you are part of his cohorts that CREATED your own God!

Kobojunkie:
Go back through my previous post and read to understand what was written before responding
All those who belong to God , to this very day, are those who are taught directly by God Himself, not by men or mogs.

As for the source of Paul's inspiration, I haven't said a thing about him being inspired by the devil. Instead, i have tried to put it to you that it matters for not what he was inspired by this since we are not call to trust and obey the words of Paul, but instead the Words of Jesus Christ, the one who is God's Law in the Kingdom of God.

oteneaaron:
I personally don't give a damn about any other religion that has cases of sexual child abuse in court.

After all, I have realized say na the same motor carry all of una - JW and every other religion of Christendom.

oteneaaron:
But I am focused on the JW because, ever since I was young, I have always strongly believed that the organization was the one and only true religion.

And when a religion claims to be the only truth, then falsehood should never be found in it's midst.

This is simple logic.

oteneaaron:
So imagine my horror when I saw that even the JW organization is also been investigated for sexual child abuse with over 1000 cases.

And mind you, this is just Australia!

This indirectly means the same thing is happening in other countries too.

So what are we saying?

oteneaaron:
Say what you want.

Research as shown that LOVE BOMBING is a very powerful tool used by religious organizations - especially cults.

You and MaxIDhouse always talk about LOVE.

But you tend to forget that the LOVE you claim to have or show is CONDITIONAL.

But this is a discussion for another day.

Galatians 6:10.
IYKYK.

oteneaaron:
Well if he may wave it off, but there are many others who won't.

This court case brings up so many questions.

What broke my heart the most was watching a video of Geoffrey Jackson during the court session lying under oath!

oteneaaron:
Ever since the 2012 WT article where the new light was announced that the GB is now the Faithful and Discreet Slave, this meant that they ARE THE ONLY DIRECT CHANNEL to God.

oteneaaron:
But when Goeffery Jackson - a member of the GB was asked the same question, he lied in his answer!

Angus Stewart - the lawyer asked him this blunt question: “Do you see yourselves as Jehovah God’s spokespeople on earth?”

Geoffrey Jackson answered:

“That I think would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that God is using.

The scriptures clearly show that someone can act in harmony with God’s spirit in giving comfort and help in the congregations, but if I could just clarify a little, going back to Matthew 24, clearly, Jesus said that in the last days ‐ and Jehovah’s Witnesses believe these are the last days ‐ there would be a slave, a group of persons who would have responsibility to care for the spiritual food.

So in that respect, we view ourselves as trying to fulfill that role.”

You may think I am lying, but here is a snippet from his statement:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlsVPTsUnnI

And I am like whaaaat!!??

I was shocked to my bones!

How can a member of the GB say this?!!!

The full video of the court case is available on YouTube.

Context !!!!

Questions for oteneaaron';
1. Who is "that someone can act in harmony with God's spirit in giving comfort and help in the congregations"?

2. What is "the congregations" that Geoffrey Jackson references?

3. Is it Trinity worshipping Christendom he references?

4. Is "that someone" a Polytheist 3 deities worshipper ?
No !

5. Who are "the slave/Group of persons" in Matthew 24 that Mr Geoffrey Jackson references?

6. Who did Geoffrey Jackson references as "fulfilling that role"?

I repeat, Mr Geoffrey Jackson spoke the same truth.
He never lied.
My Brother, Geoffrey Jackson was well prepared for that smart lawyer.

I have answered Question 4 for you.
You have to think deeply and understand what he says.
But apostates sold you a dummy cocktail of lies, well repackaged

Dynmyt:
Do you follow paul or Jesus Christ... I thought its only the way and exemplary life of Jesus you follow.

1 Corinthians 11: Paul was inspired to write:
"Imitate me as I imitate Jesus"
Romans 15:4 and Hebrews 11:1-39, imitate the faith of Jehovah's servants

Bros, the holy scriptures is NOT in your thoughts .

Dynmyt:
Dynmyt 2nd statement... "I thought...."
When you expose their trickery, they always find another excuse to promote their selfishness. No wonder person talk say dem no dey back down on argument. Am taking my morning coffee now and have very limited time to trade words with people indoctrinated with hate and hypocrisy.

Dynmyt:
You dont go to war zones to win converts like other missionaries from christian denominations do, but when the coast is clear, they catwalk into an already peaceful settlement to claim to win converts. Cowardice at the sudden thought of it. All about securing your already minute groups using them to gain converts.Do you need to mind your numbers in a problem zone area to preach tge word of God? Then we will conveniently say your numbers are more important to y'all than passing the message of God in trying times. If matyrdom in blood transfusion rejection give y'all hard ons, why dont you people go and practice matyrdom in terrorist areas in Nigeria (lets bring it home), if your numbers mean so much to you. Then i do not see any reason a JW should not receive blood transfusion or donations from others to save their sorry asses.

Oga, roughly over 30% of 9ja population had first hand experience of the 30 months Civil war.
Ask your elders to tell you what JWs went through during those horrific times gone by.
Matthew 24:15-19, your thoughts are NOT the thoughts of Jesus Christ nor the holy scriptures.
You can flee , you can jakpa
Go to the book of Acts, many times the disciples fled from troubled spots

Dynmyt:
But no one hates JW.. Only that having inferiority complex and feeling hated suits matt 24:9.

Mr Dynmyt, can you to name only one person on this public forum who have ever reported that his fellow 3 deities worshippers in Christendom were summoned and indicted by Australian Royal Commission?

I challenge you to name that person

Dynmyt:
JWs are the one going round castigating other denominations.

Dynmyt:
At least when you people knock we open to listen to you, but can you endure just one minute of evengelism from other denominations. Gospel songs you will not play but if its secular songs una sabi am pass olamide

Dynmyt:
Max you have the beautiful chance to let us know the name of your own congregation now so if by any chance a situation may arise, then we can make bold to say oh Max that great guy don't you know he is a member of Christ the King assembly of the Jehovah's witnesses?

oteneaaron:
Hey MaxInDHouse, here are some links to help you investigate the child abuse court case against the JW organization by the Australian Royal Commission:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/28/australian-jehovahs-witnesses-protected-over-a-thousand-members-accused-of-child-abuse-report-says/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-13/jehovah-witnesses-child-abuse-four-corners-investigations/100444320

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-33673240

https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-studies/case-study-29-jehovahs-witnesses

Funny thing is many JWs don't know about this.

Do you know that one of the GB members Geoffrey Jackson was called to the witness-dock to give a testimony during this court case?

JWs are very much aware, ask achorladey to give you the proof.
A lot has improved
He shared it on this public forum

oteneaaron:
Shot myself in the foot?

How?

Mind you, I am not affiliated to any church or religion - not after my experience as a JW from my childhood till my adult age.

You lie when you say other religions have no records of their members.

oteneaaron:
I may not have all the info, but I am sure many churches give a baptismal certificate to their members.

But you are right - I don't expect the branch office to give any official statement cos afterall, - an unidentified JW died because she couldn't raise 4million naira for a surgery that would have saved her life.

oteneaaron:
But if it were a much more "serious issue" like the Child Abuse Case of the Australian Royal Commission VS the JW organization, even a member of the GB would have rushed to give a testimony.

Talk about double standards and shifting the goal posts!!
oteneaaron:

"No organization - religious or not - is above scrutiny by the general public"

achorladey:
Does MaxInDHouse even know the guidelines for their members who decides to grant interview to the PRESS?

oteneaaron:
No organization - religious or not - is above scrutiny by the general public.

If this happened with another church or religion, I can bet my left balls that you would be in the fore-front screaming - "false religion!"

But look at how the tables have turned!

Why don't you wait for the Branch office to give an official response to this serious allegation?

oteneaaron:
It is called LOVE BOMBING

Look it up.

Dynmyt:
Yep thats hypocrisy dear...don't dine with the devil if you don't like him.. Just go open your business and leave "collapsed systems" the hell alone, and leave spaces for those that believe in the "collapsed systems" to wholesomely benefit from it. You should not be there to fix it, leave it for God to do that.

Dynmyt:
Cry more... Your tears are so delicious... Was Jesus a govt worker? Why y'all lots fighting dirty to enter the civil service? Is it laziness and lack of creativity to have your own initiative? Pray tell

Kobojunkie:
Translation: the boy chose suicide over life, this by sticking to their church dogma, and that is acceptable?

Let's hope his GB's prepared for him a heaven of their own on the other side of this life.

doggedfighter:
Idiocy.

Amotolongbo:
Suicide

Emusan:
[s]At least your GB are still dull more than me

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[s]Carry out this simple practice before you come here to spew another thrash.
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Another one from engaging in what Jehovah hates

Why using what Jehovah hates as example?

This shows you're too addicted to football
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Emusan:
Meanwhile, what happened at the night Jesus carried out that act, it is EDIBLE something not just object.
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Emusan:
The instructions is to SHARE among themselves which means they must partake everyone of them.
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Emusan:
At least the lexicon you posted didn't include that, no wonder you have to rush to another screenshot

Las Las your NWT is a dubious one fabricated to suit your demonic doctrines.

Briller:
Hmmm. I don't want to sound judgemental but 90percent of the JW members I have come across are hypocrites. Argue with your ancestors if you doubt my submissions but if you know you know.

Briller:
They claim they don't celebrate birthdays, yet partake of birthday cakes....
They claim they don't celebrate Christmas, yet partake in the chicken and all other orishirishi used to celebrate Christmas...

Those you label " hypocrites" are no different from you.
The reason they roll with you.
JWs like Janosky won't join your pagan celebrations,e get why.
You know nau

Briller:
They practice endogamy but commit adultery with people of other faith...

Briller:
They work in civil service but don't respect national symbol such as anthem,

Briller:
yet they benefit from the same system as long as they are paid salaries from taxpayers money...

Briller:
They cheat the system by using official hours to go out for evangelism so that their marks would be accorded them in their drive to gain more converts...

Briller:
They love their Christian brothers and sisters more than their biological siblings...SMH

The list is endless.

Dynmyt:
Gat a friend like that who pursued recommendation for a lecturing post in a government university, each denial he cries like a baby... He dun won any other job not even private but hell bent on the same "devil instrument" to survive...

Dynmyt:
You are high on too much sense

Vinnie2000:
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ENDLESS, My Brother!

The Bolded is one of my Biggest Criticism of Them!
They would claim dat Man's Government has Failed but Enjoy University Bursary, NPower, etc...

Vinnie2000:
They will Say Marrying a Catholic, Pentecostal, etc is Bad but Fccks same pple as Girlfriends, side chicks, Sugar daddies, etc..

Russell or Whatever his Name is, Really created this Denomination on a Strong, Self deceit, Brainwashing Format.

Hypocrisy na your daily garment. You dey wear am with those people supporting you.
Your fellow 3 persons deities worshipper confirmed it.
The same manner the topic of the screenshot confirmed it- your 3 deities worshippers discriminate against themselves on the issue of inter faith marriage.
Yet, Vinnie, you bring your hypocrisy and bigotry enter Nairaland

Kajaard:
Spoken like a true close minded religious cultist

Kobojunkie:
Just as Jesus Christ said. His Truth no longer holds value for you since you have been pretty much weaned on the lies of your GBs instead.

Deadlytruth:
So you didn't read the post at all? Go back and read it very well. Her relation said it clearly that all the while she suffered the illness she rejected help offered her from a Catholic community in Italy. Meanwhile her own JW which imbued her with such deadly mindset couldn't raise funds for her. Hypocrisy at its peak.

Hashabiah:
Bros , you're just deceiving yourself by misinterpreting the gospel of Jesus and the apostles . For your information, the ministry of Jesus Christ (not angel Michael ) was basically about salvation. But salvation from what ? According to the dictionary, salvation means deliverance or rescue . So Jesus was basically sent to rescue us from something
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Hashabiah:
This something was a place called hell and it's a part of God's kingdom . And it's reserved for those who disobeyed God ,

Hashabiah:
just like Lucifer and his minions
. The bible strictly describes hell as a place of torment meant for the Devil and his angels(matt25:41) . In Mark 9:47-48, Jesus Himself gives a better picture of what kind of place it is :
"And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. Where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.


The gospels are litter with verses like these , and Jesus and His apostle made their life work to warn men about this place. In fact Jesus only spoke about heaven once but mentioned about hell 11 times. Now why would Jesus speak more about Hell than Heaven ? The answer is simple : He doesn't want you to go there .


This is something that's obvious and I wonder why Charles Russell Taze didn't admonish you JWs