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achorladey:
You can't say Christendom

Will be watching this closely.

MightySparrow:
Before Exodus 6;3 was God known by any name?
Which other versions other than the one shown above? What makes it special?

Emusan:
In fact, there's a worship song that goes like Your name is YAHWEH, your name is YAHWEH, you're a miracle working God your name is YAHWEH!

Emusan:
How many times has your demonic organization use YAHWEH despite the fact that they know YAHWEH is more accurate than Jehovah?

Emusan:
Nobody


If sense is actually in that skull and that you're not a lying liar like your father the Devil, you posted a screenshot from an article of 2008 here and with ONLY ONE CARDINAL ARINZE but you can still go ahead to say the LEADERS

Can you provide the link to the article? So that we can see what it actually says.

Emusan:
JaNosense, whenever you lost in your delusions you'll begin to behave like a kid.

The Op and you are from the same product of lying organization, so I don't expect you to say otherwise.

Emusan:
If I say you're ignorant now you'll think it's an insult.

Both YAHWEH and Jehovah are words transliterated from the Tetragrammaton YHWH or JHVH, so both Yahweh and Jehovah are translation from Hebrew.

Olodo...your organization has lied to you to think that Jehovah is English translation while YAHWEH is Hebrew

Reason why you people are so shallow in scripture understanding.

But don't worry, as we're being given you people Bible study here, we'll continue to do so!

Jankara market graduate that doesn't know the difference between transliteration & translation.
Wetin Emusan wan teach? Only GIBBERISH [color=#000099][/color].

Emusan:
Here is what I posted again which you can't counter!

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1. The same Christendom are the one who formulated the Latin name Jehovah

2. The same Christendom are the one who still realized Yahweh is more accurate than Jehovah

Even when WTBTS knows this, to revert back to YAHWEH is impossible because they already named themselves Jehovah witness

3. The same Christendom and Trinitarian are the one who first used the name Jehovah/Yahweh

4. The same Christendom are the one who sponsored most of the research that leads to the discovery of all known ancient manuscripts today.

5. The same Christendom are in charge of all known and discovered ancient manuscripts today.

6. The same Christendom still allows free access to all these ancient information by individuals or group of people.

So how can the same people still trying to hide God's name?

Emusan:
Your dumbness is super that there's no figure to raise it over....

So what just a cardinal said not even a WHOLE COUNCIL OF CATHOLIC which is even in 2008, is what you can come up with.



I thought they have stopped using the name before Russell and his pagan team started

JaNosense, stop disgracing yourself on public forum!

Your mental capability isn't for a forum like this but for just a Hut of small hall in remote village.

So it is just one person which is [b]"He" but you said below that is was "LEADERS of Christendom & their laity"[/b]

Lying liar JaNosense like his father the Devil!

Emusan LIENUS gifted with the genius of LYING.
Your "mental capacity" for FALSEHOOD is luminous.

Catholic-resources.org website says it all.
Cardinal Arinze is NOT speaking for himself, but for the Vatican.
He is a prominent member of their inner sanctum.

The Vatican forbids the use of Yahweh for mass, songs and prayers.
The Vatican forbids the use of Catholic Jerusalem Bible because it uses the name "YAHWEH"
2021,The prohibition has not changed.

achorladey:
He has a lot of ARCHAIC IDEAS, that has been made mockery of obtained from his religious leaders of which he said are made irrelevant by recent biblical evidence.

Rather than readily made use of the recent biblical evidence he will keep defending and denying archaic ideas filled with mockery.

Ammishaddai:
Oga, the Holy Spirit works in all those who are called according to the purposes of God. So He is not limited one specific region or group of Christian believers worldwide(argue that with Jesus )

Ammishaddai:
. Seocndly, JWs deny the existence and presence of the Holy Spirit ,and that's why you don't speak in tongues ; don't manifest the works of the Spirit through prophesy and healings; and aren't lead by the Spirit of God . [s]Instead your cult is lead by the shit Charles Russell Taze says[/s]

Ammishaddai:
Bros you're in delusion. How is your dimwitted faith working when you people outrightly reject the divinity of Jesus and substitute Him for a servant as angel Michel?

The same Bible truth your Trinity devotees have agreed on @Genesis 16:7 , Amplified Bible & Daniel 10:13, Geneva Bible.
The same holy ghost is giving you & your fellow Trinity devotees conflicting revelations.
Is that not marvelous?

Ammishaddai:
Even the Holy Spirt has been substituted for a "force" when Jesus clearly identified Him as a person (WTF ) .

Luke 11:20 and Matthew 12:28 , Jesus Christ proven that holy spirit is God's finger, powerful enough to exact force to miraculously produce a snake that swallowed other snakes at Pharaoh's palace, Exodus 8:19.
Continue to WAIL, the truth dey pain you.
You wey dey do miracle , you learn "WTF" from Jesus?
Dump your choreographed miracle for dustbin.

Ammishaddai:
The so called "togetherness" you claim JWs practice has hundreds if not thousands of people leaving your worldwide cults and preferring to be atheist because of the hypocrisy in it . If there was love and the teachings of God there , no one would be eager to leave

For your mind
Continue DECEIVING yourself, John 17:23, Jesus prayed the disciples be one like him & his Father, John13:35 love is their identifying mark in your Bible.
Still, Judas Iscariot left, Hyemaneus left, Alexander left and multitudes of them fought against apostle Paul,2 Corinthians 11:26.


Faithlessness is not different from atheism.
JEHOVAH'S people are different & faithful.
The Bible truth will continue to pain you.

rottennaija:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrges_TxOzQ

Tell me something I didn't know in bold and caps. You are crying the audio tone was changed but what was said remain?

elated177:
This is actually a simple matter.

YHVH Almighty is our Father in heaven. He is the Creator of all things.
By him all things were made.


Yahushua the Messiah is the Word of YHVH Almighty, his begotten Son. Through him all things were made.

elated177:
The Father and his Son are one. The Father is God Almighty. The Son is God Almighty. Anyone who sees the Word, YHVH's Salvation, has seen the Owner of the Word, YHVH Almighty. There shouldn't be any confusion here.

rottennaija:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo0SYFJseKA

The title of this thread is blatant FALSEHOOD concocted by a LYING, WAILING bigot.

The real clowns are Cappytan & Rott WAILER who TAMPERED with the audio on the JWs video and DUBIOUSLY attach on label on the blameless speaker in that video.

Rottennaija is giving a FALSE representation of the JWs video.
Rottennaija, your four (4) fingers points back at you, deluded LYING bigot.
Next time Rott WAILER will say "I'm done & dusted" , DECEIVING himself

achorladey:
Conclusively, the central part of Jesus assignment on Earth is to make this God's name known.(Read John 7:26).
Is God's name as important to you as it is to Jesus?.........Haddeylium

Emphasis on the central part of Jesus assignment on Earth is to make this God's name known..... and this same Jesus did not for once call God by that name in his preaching and teaching activities tells you the basis of the point fell flat with no solid support or evidence.

achorladey:
Reality says Jesus wanting others to know God is not by carrying the names as badge, placards or labels attached to things or talisman


Having a close relationship with God involve getting to know him by name..... Haddeylium


Having a close relationship with the father that gave birth to you right here on earth does not require you to know him by name call him by name and put his name as labels, badge or placards he bears rather you will readily call him DADDY, BABA MI e.t.c [/i]and the bond you have with him grows based on all his activities, care, guidance e.t.c.

achorladey:
[i]It is not the name the father who gave birth to you bears that made you draw close to him, reality tells me that you and many have strong bond with their father who gave birth to them long before they know him by his personal names.

achorladey:
This too applies to your father in heaven. The reason Jesus, Paul and others used "ABBA FATHER" to endear themselves with our father in heaven.

achorladey:
The Israelites knew that name and see them written seven thousand times for numerous decades and centuries they walk with the God who bear the name yet they hardly develop any relationship that was really lasting in any time period during those decades and centuries. The time of the judges and Kings will tell the full story about that.

In the final analysis that God rejected that nation despite they knowing that name. Oga Haddey e bo le nbe

Hundredfold4lif:
YAHWEH is the true real name of Elohim(God) hence YAHWEH-ELOHIM -(LORD God).
Jehovah is a misconstrued term used by a Catholic priest.

Hundredfold4lif:
All reliable original languages of scripture read YAHWEH in all honest translations.

Hundredfold4lif:
Even the New King James Version doesn't have any Jehovah nomenclature by the least.
No Jewish scholar or Biblist ever uses Jehovah because by linguistics and all, YAHWEH is and will remain God's revealed name from Genesis!

Hundredfold4lif:
Unfortunately, many who fight over Jehovah don't even have personal encounters with Jesus (real name: Yeshua!)
Our today's Joshua is same with Jehovah rather than the true names of Yeshua and YAHWEH!

achorladey:
After all Jesus didn't go about with the label JEHOVAH when preaching and teaching people. The words he used is Father paapaa.

achorladey:
He has to narrow it down to that because he has been taught by his religious leaders that they are the only true channel Jehovah is using to dispense accurate Bible knowledge.

It is the easiest way for him to get out of the discussion when locked in.

The Op said God's name was removed from the Bible and chief among those that did the removal is christendom yet the same christendom had the AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION which the organization WTBTS he belongs said is one of the outstanding bible for making sure that the name Jehovah appeared over 6000 times.

The Op should tell us who is really removing what from the Bible.

Emusan:
Just like calling someone "Our friend" and another comment on the same thread the person suddenly became "MAD person"

You'll then be wondered, why speaking from both side of the mouth?

1. The same Christendom are the one who formulated the Latin name Jehovah

2. The same Christendom are the one who still realized Yahweh is more accurate than Jehovah

Even when WTBTS knows this, to revert back to YAHWEH is impossible because they already named themselves Jehovah witness

3. The same Christendom and Trinitarian are the one who first used the name Jehovah/Yahweh

4. The same Christendom are the one who sponsored most of the research that leads to the discovery of all known ancient manuscripts today.

5. The same Christendom are in charge of all known and discovered ancient manuscripts today.

6. The same Christendom still allows free access to all these ancient information by individuals or group of people.

If this people actually want to hide something how easy it would've been for them.

That's why you see them coming with different lies just to keep deceiving themselves.

In the screenshot, is that Catholic Cardinal Arinze telling the laity to use God's name in the leturgy ?
He banned the use of Yahweh in Church!
Where is the encouragement of Christendom to use God's name when he is telling them to stop using the divine name in the Church?
How times in your Church do you hear "Praise Yahweh" or "Praise JEHOVAH" spoken from the pulpit?
Who are those against the use of God's name in Church?
The leaders of Christendom & their Laity,
3 doghead slaves
You are DECEIVING yourself.

Emusan:
The OP out of ignorance or deceitful heart said somewhere that "YAHWEH is the Hebrew transliteration while Jehovah is English translation"

achorladey:
The thread the Op create just get as e be.

That the fourth president of the organization they belong said Jehovah unquestionably arranged the removal and omission of his name in the new testament and that Jesus and his disciples never for once use the name throughout

achorladey:
[/b] and the Op come out and say the name was removed. I just dey laugh.
Removed by who? Dem no fit answer

Achorladey laugh at yourself, you bigot.
Emusan your comrade, made that same claim
Emusan:
"Everyone knows including your demonic organization that the divine name was replaced with Elohim and Adonai"
Direct your question to Emusan,your comrade in FALSEHOOD

achorladey:
. Do people really need the name to develop relationships with God, dem no fit answer.

This ones can call people apostates up and down. Dem never know the real apostate. Dem still they learn. After all they have been warned that when they see real apostates, they will not know.

Ammishaddai:
"Finger"/ "Force" cannot teach people , neither can it be defined as a comforter or a revealer. Secondly , the acts 13:2 states it clearly that the Holy Spirit spoke to the Apostles. So it it obvious that the the Holy Spirit is a person ;not a force

Ammishaddai:
You can't call a force "Him ". So think deeply mumu

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] I'm only following what Jesus said about the Holy Spirit , and He(Jesus )said the Holy Spirit is a person . If He were a force , Jesus would have stated it explicitly.

Nicenancy:
Acts 13:2
]As they ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, “Now separate to Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.”

Ammishaddai:
The Holy Spirit is a person, not an impersonal force or influence. The Spirit of God has personal qualities and personal functions. The Spirit of God is God Himself present in the world of man working out His own purposes. “For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do His good pleasure.” (Philippians 2:13)

In Jesus’ farewell message in the Gospel of John Chapters 14 through 16, Jesus speaks of the Holy Spirit as if He is speaking of a personal friend. He refers to Him as that One (Greek: ekeinos) using the masculine personal pronoun "Nevertheless, I tell you the truth, it is expedient for you that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Comforter will not come unto you (John 16:7).” “And when He is come, He will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment (John 16:.” “When He the Spirit of Truth is come, He will guide you into all truth; for He shall not speak of Himself, but whatever He shall hear, that shall He speak and He will show you things to come (John 16:13).”

This can't possibly be a force . Especially when Jesus particularly referred to Him as a person from the above scriptures

I challenge you Trinity believers,use your Bible , give this forum, scripture & verse, where your holy spirit had one on one conversation with any believer.
Show the proof ! Bring it on

achorladey:
Na mockery of others they will keep looking at not their own. This is one of Mr Janos Jehovah’s viewpoint that are ARCHAIC IDEAS, TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE........

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Sifia pained meshuggah DECEIVING himself
If you get Liver, Bring the scriptures and verse you lifted that quote.
Go & use 1920's science textbook dey teach your children Montessori education
Hypocrite

achorladey:
Although the American Standard Version, with its rendering of the name “Jehovah” thousands of times, was available from 1901 onward, the Watch Tower magazine did not adopt that translation as its basic translation but continued to employ primarily the King James or Authorized Version with its use of “LORD” and “GOD” as substitutes for the Tetragrammaton. Even after the death of Russell in 1916 and during the presidency of Rutherford this continued to be the case.

Following Rutherford’s death, in 1944 the Watch Tower Society obtained rights for printing an edition of the American Standard Version on their own presses. Yet, although frequently quoting from this translation and numerous others, they continued to use the Authorized Version as their basic version in all their publications up until the year 1950 when they published their own New World Translation of the Bible.

NNTR:
Philippians 2:6-7
6Though He was God, He did not think of equality with God, as something to cling to.
7Instead, He gave up his divine privileges; He took the humble position of a slave
and was born as a human being. When He appeared in human form,

NNTR:
What is the meaning of God, if not influence, power, authority, force etc, so, if you're asking "who is His God" then, He is, His God

Jesus was killed in the line of duty that God the Father sent Him to do, so Jesus' Father on earth and in heaven, is God the Father.

You are standing too close to get a correct understanding


_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Emusan:
Lying liar JWs JaNosense

Emusan:
Lying liar, the one Pharisees and Sadducees have replaced with Adonai and Elohim

Don't forget.

Emusan:
Jesus made KNOWN not that HE TAIGHT them... You added that part to it.

[s]You see, when the face of liar is shinning like sun [/s]
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John 15:15 & John 17:6,26, Jesus Christ proven that Emusan LIENUS is a LYING genius.
If I make my name 'Paul' KNOWN to you, Emusan. Have I taught you, Emusan, that my name is 'Paul'?
Emusan lacks comprehension skills. No be lie.
Yet , shamelessly arrogant.

Emusan:
The pronunciation has lost even before Christ came, so if Jesus reintroduced the pronunciation it can't be lost again.

Jesus never used the name likewise the Apostles

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John 17:6,26 , Mark 12:29 biblical proof.
Read this secular proof in the screenshot.
The Jews have found out that God's name is NOT hidden.
Emusan,Read and learn

Emusan:
No! I'm asking the deluded JWs JaNosense


Just imagine, but NT was written in Greek

Emusan:
Fraudster JWs!

Emusan:
If you truly have sense, you've known that the word "Quote" means referencing to initial statement.
So which book did Jesus quote is the question?

Emusan:
Why was the pronunciation lost and the Apostles didn't use it?

The JWs fraudster can't answer it

[s]Says the deluded JWs JaNosense
The thing pain am
When you receive sense lemme know
[/s]

John 17:6,26 & Mark 12:29, Jesus Christ says he taught them.
Sink that Bible truth into your brain.

Go and find out why the pronunciation was lost, na your assignment.
Use the skills you learnt at Jankara market to do that assignment.

Emusan:
Lying liar JaNosense! Jesus taught his Father's name yet the pronunciation lost, how come?

[s]You're shifting the goal post Mr JaNosense[/s]

Emusan:
Yes Jesus quote from it, but which book did Jesus quoted from?

[s]JaNosense cover your lying mouth.

I'm not Watchtower that do erase or add to the scripture.[/s]

Emusan:
You this fraud won't cease to amaze me!

Emusan:
So by extensively quoting from the old testament is using the name

Emusan:
Why must it be from old testament quoting and not direct usage?

Emusan:
Are you saying both Jesus and the Apostles don't have opportunity to use the name in their teachings?

Emusan:
You this fraud won't cease to amaze me!

So by extensively quoting from the old testament is using the name

Why must it be from old testament quoting and not direct usage?

Are you saying both Jesus and the Apostles don't have opportunity to use the name in their teachings?