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Maestro21:
You are inane.

I am not on a thread discussing Mr. Russell or his cult.

I don't care about him.

It is you fools that came here to spew hypocrisy but when the same measure is done to your founder, you start trying to split hairs.

If they ask you to prove Rev. Anita made same claims, you will start bringing stupid blogs where anyone can just type whatever and post it.

You won't take the testimony of the man, his members, his children or even his wife. It will be a stupid blog. lol

You are "not on a thread discussing Mr Russell and his cult" but you are typing GIBBERISH villifying him.

Na so your Pastorpreneurs dey teach you to perfect the art of LYING

MaxInDHouse:
Well in reality you just mocked your religion because there's is a difference between the GIFTS of God's Holy Spirit and the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit.
Jesus never said the GIFTS will be the sign of true Christianity rather it was the FRUIT that Jesus emphasized! Matthew 7:16-23
The book you quoted was not found in older manuscripts of the Bible so the book of Mark ended at Chapter 16 and verse 8.
Do you think Chris can really cure the sick?

Maestro21:
You guys are stupidly shameless.

Posers were raised for you above, go and respond to them so we can laugh at you harder.

Stop quoting Jesus, he does not know you and your satanic cult. He told his disciples who he also told about the signs that when they show love to ONE ANOTHER everyone else will know they are of the same fold.

Christians are not of your fold.

JWits are evil - subtle satanic worshippers. Deniers of the power of God, liars, hypocrites, ignorant, wicked, trolls.

Mark 16:9-20 is a fake, DUBIOUS insert alien to the holy scriptures.

Every Bible scholar knows that....
Bigotry no let you see road & receive SENSE.
Just Continue to WAIL.

Maestro21:
See expose...

So Mr. Russell maltreated his wife, threatened her and even forced the separation.

And the gang of shameless hypocrites are trying to defend this.

Shameless trolls.

Maestro21:
Don't be too stupid. The allegations were in relation to adultery which Mrs. Russell negated. You tried to be clever by half by hiding the earlier aspects of the transcript where she mentioned how she was maltreated and threatened to agree to the divorce.

She also mentioned that he was the one who pushed for the separation.

Have some shame.

Emusan:
They are hypocritical and cunning people.

They can sugarcoat anything just to promote their demonic doctrines forgotten that all what they accused other for, are also found within their organization.

You can see how their trying to defend their founder and Rutherford. When it's obvious that the way their founder treated his wife is show shameful that even unbelievers can't treat a woman such way.

Firstly, the they lied that Russell never pushed for separation whereas it's Russell himself who first brought up the issue of separation.

Secondly, their publications lied & provide half info many times just to cover up their founder's evil towards his wife the same way they're doing on this thread.

Lastly, the wife fell seriously sick during that period, imagine what their founder says "It's a judgement from his God" I wonder what their hypocritical mouth will say if it's another person that says something like this to a bedridden wife.

Here is just few statement at the trial of the marriage in court by the wife.

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Q. Mrs. Russell, after you separated from your husband in November, 1897, where did you go live?

A. I went to my sister's. [80/1006 Cedar Avenue]

Q. And how long did you live with your sister?

A. A year and a half.

Q. Did you receive any support from your husband during that year and a half?

A. None whatever.

Q. At the expiration of the year and a half, which would be about April, 1899, where did you go live?

A. The house next door to my sister [79/1004 Cedar Avenue], which was owned by my husband, which was left vacant, the tenant moved out and I went in and took possession of it and notified Mr. Russell I was there.

Q. How long did you live in that house?

A. I remained there for four years.

Q. During those four years, did Mr. Russell contribute anything to your support, outside of permitting you to live in this house?

A. Nothing.

Q. And during those four years, how did you make a livelihood?

A. I rented furnished rooms.

Q. I believe during this time Mr. Russell gave you some furniture?

A. Yes, Sir.

Q. And that would bring us down now to April, 1903?

A. Yes, Sir.

Q. And did you leave that house on Cedar?

A. On April 16, 1903, Mr. Russell and these men who are with him today came over to my house, and with some others from the office, they were persons connected with the Watch Tower Society and also the [United States] Investment Company and they came over and took possession of the house, and turned me out of the house; he kept the furniture and even retained my pocket book which carried the money that I had received from the rent of rooms.

EDITORS NOTE: Maria Russell either misspoke when she said, "April 16, 1903", or the court reporter got it wrong. The correct date was Monday, March 16, 1903. See Section below to see what all occurred during the week of March 16, 1903 between Maria and Taze Russell.

OBJECTION

Q. And then I believe shortly after that eviction from this house you instituted these proceedings for divorce? And also proceedings in the [C]ourt of Quarter Sessions for non-support. (See following section.)

A. Yes. Sir.

Q. In which the court sentenced him to pay $40 a month?

A. Yes, Sir.

Q. Which has been done from that time down until the present?

A. Yes, Sir.

Q. Have you had any financial aid from your husband except this $40 a month which you have received since about April 1, 1903, down to the present time?

A. None whatever.

Q. Mrs. Russell, have you any means of your own?

A. I have no means of my own, excepting a very small legacy from my mother, just a few hundred dollars, and that has helped to eke out life with that $40 a month which I have been living on since that time. Mother just died just before I was evicted from that house.

Q. Mrs. Russell, prior to the time you left your husband, did he ever propose a separation?

A. Yes, Sir.

Q. When was that?

A. That was just before we moved down to the Bible House. It was in 1895.

Q. And at that time you were living on Clifton Avenue, Allegheny?

A. Yes, Sir.

Q. Did or did not Mr. Russell at that time make any threat as to what he would do with his property unless you acceded to his demands?

A. Yes, Sir.

Q. What were they?

A. He proposed that on the ground of incompatibility that we agree to separate, and if I would do so he would give me that house in which we were living, and when I broke down at the suggestion, he said if I did not agree to it, that I would not get anything.

Q. After this proposed separation and threat, Mrs. Russell, where did you go to live, you and your husband?

A. We moved down to the Bible House.

Q. At whose suggestion?

A. Mr. Russell's.

Q. And I believe you continued to live there until the final separation in November, 1897?

A. Yes, Sir.

Q. And I believe you continued to do work in the Bible House for Mr. Russell?

A. Yes, Sir, down to the time I took sick; and after that I kept on with the work all the time I was there.

You can read the full details HERE

Maestro21:
Straw clutching, off point, no correlation to anything. You don't even know the man or the ministry you want to discuss.

How shameless of you. After you went on and on about separation and divorce, you immediately want to change the topic because you have been found out.

Petra1, I would not have this conversation with this person. What does light have to do with darkness? What does good have to do with evil?

This person should first express here how his leader and founder is a clown, hobnocker, shameless divorcee, failure and undeserving of speaking or leading people.

Until he says that, there is no point in conversing with him.

Maestro21:
RUBBISH!

What buffoonery is this? lol

petra1:
Firstly with no intention to insult. Your Organization is not seen as a christian organisation.

There is no understanding of true salvation, Of Jesus and his deity.

So talking about spiritual worth of a Pastor, all the blessing of the Gospel and the believers are manifest in Pastor Chris and his ministry

Mark 16:17
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Does your organization believe in the ministrry of the holy spirit?



All the promises of the new testament minister are evident in Pastor Chris ministry unlike yours .

Do you pray in the spirit
Do you heal the sick
Do you cast out devils
Do you believe in the authority of the believer .

This is not being critical or mockery of you. its just analysing. so you can kindly open a thread . so that we dont derail this one

BassReeves:
Ignorance never settles a question. Ignorance never answers a question(s), following the instructed same and similar numbered up way, style and format, the questions in the first place, were asked.

BassReeves:
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not, one half so bad, as the lot of ignorance, you here, are displaying, considering that, John 10:36, just on its own encapsulates trinity

BassReeves:
So, Janosky, I repeat the earlier instructions, which is, without using screenshot, type here showing exactly how Bill Mounce proved that Greek Theos (i.e. God) is written in the same way that the words, God and gods, are written.

BassReeves:
If you didnt know, then fyi, the Pharisees, when accusingly talking with Jesus, used the Greek word 'Theos', signifying God,

BassReeves:
while Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, on the other hand, in responding to the Pharisees' accusation and allegation, used two Greek words, that have not the same spelling nor meaning as the one the Pharisees used. The two words Jesus used, not only have different Greek spellings to the Pharisees , but they also have the meaning that signifies, gods (i.e. judges etc and not God).
1. Tell, what, in John 10:34 is the Greek word, Jesus used in responding to the Pharisees?

BassReeves:
2. Tell, what scripture was Jesus alluding to, when, in John 10:34-35, He talked about gods, using two separate Greek words, that differently means gods and dont mean, God?

BassReeves:
3. List all the Greek cases that was used in John 10:33-36 with respect to gods and God

Give your answers back to all questions asked, using the same and similar numbering up way or method used to ask you the questions, so to make it easy to see and match your answers to every numbered questions

Emusan:
Then shut your dirty mouth up.

Who asked you
See the idiot taking panadol for someone headache

Emusan:
JaNosense the lying liar like his father the Devil

Always remember that.

You'll see how it'll pepper him

Yippeedaniel:
Jw is only sweet and holy when outside. When you're in you'll understand. Been there for few years but it's isn't what it pretend to be.

Yippeedaniel:
It's best when you're ignorant.

Bishopkingsley:
My brother it is not must for you to believe God manifestation

When Jesus appears in the sky you will use your mouth to declare he is God Almighty

So it is not about forming strong man when time comes you will see what we have seen when God called us to be his chosen ones

So God bless you no need to fight each other
Peace

Emusan:
Now it has become spurious claim



Shameless lying liar JaNosense the son of his darling father the devil

BassReeves:
Will you back off and leave this gentleman Bishopkingsley alone in peace

Iqtm, dont ya'll just love John 10:33-36. It's a contextual passage with insights that are powerful and profound, yet the insights, paradoxically, are of benign magnitudes too.

Janosky, without using screenshot, type here showing exactly how Bill Mounce proved that Greek Theos (i.e. God) is written in the same way that the words, God and gods, are written.

BassReeves:
If you didnt know, the Pharisees, when accusingly talking with Jesus, used the Greek word 'Theos', signifying God,

BassReeves:
while Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, on the other hand, in responding to the Pharisees' accusation and allegation, used two Greek words, that have not the same spelling nor meaning as the one the Pharisees used. The two words Jesus used, not only have different Greek spellings to the Pharisees , but they also have the meaning that signifies, gods (i.e. judges etc and not God).

1. Tell, what, in John 10:34 is the Greek word, Jesus used in responding to the Pharisees?
2. Tell, what scripture was Jesus alluding to, when, in John 10:34-35, He talked about gods, using two separate Greek words, that differently means gods and dont mean, God?
3. List all the Greek cases that was used in John 10:33-36 with respect to gods and God

@ John 10:34-35, Jesus quotes from Psalms 82:6, where Elohim references Magistrates & even angels.

Greek John 10:36 is pretty much straight forward.
"Jesus is the son of the God"
John's testimony & Jesus statement poured cold water on Trinity GIBBERISH
Thayer's Greek lexicon Screenshots are concise & self explanatory.
There is nothing Trinity about John 10:33-36.
Shalom.

achorladey:
My LIES are your TRUTH

Iyen ko?

achorladey:
Atleast you no fit deny that your Jehovah’s viewpoint are ARCHAIC IDEAS, to be mocked and are irrelevant as a result of recent biblical.

Maestro21:
All of a sudden new monickers just "discovered" this thread after Russell's marriage was exposed. To defend their cult.

I have never seen this type of shamelessness before.

Any story about Russell is spurious but the one about any other man is TRUE.

Some people are just scum of the earth and I make bold to say it, JWits take the cake.

The most shameless cult on God's earth.
Maestro21:


I have never seen such barefaced hypocrisy and folly.

The man straight up tried to show a disparity between "divorces" and when he was found out, decided which story to believe and which was spurious but only the "bad" part of another man's story is true

This one wey call himself Maestro21 dey think say he get SENSE. Kai !!!!!!
The screenshot proven Your bigotry is luminous.
For the same reason, in 1908, the US Court of Law awarded damages of #15,000 US dollars in favor of Mr Russell against The Washington Post for libel & character defamation, you Maestro21 moniker is proven your st✓pidity on this forum.
Emusan LIENUS ,Coman follow your friend continue WAILING upandan.

achorladey:
You see that particular one you refer to has said all of what they see as Jehovah’s viewpoint in their publications are ARCHAIC IDEAS, IDEAS to be MOCKED and are made irrelevant based on recent biblical evidence.

Na him way

petra1:

MaxInDHouse:
You may be annoyed because i'm saying what is not favorable about your pastor but you're still a million times better of than fugitives who have nothing to show for their faith.
So continue publishing Chris at least you're better off than them!

Emusan:
Now it has become spurious claim



Shameless lying liar JaNosense the son of his darling father the devil

MightySparrow:
You and your priest are on your own.
No proof that whoever appeared to Joshua was Archangel Michael. If it was an angel, Jesus created him.

MightySparrow:
Delusion. Luke 18: 10 - 14; Eph.2: 8

Do you see your Pastorpreneurs in those verses?
You know say JWs no dey pay tithes, na your Pastorpreneurs nau Jesus dey talk about.
Their tithes are secured in tax Havens not stored in heaven

Emusan:
As usual, No Sense!



I bet you didn't know about Russell and his affair with Rose Ball

That's an assignment for you





The same thing Russell did to his wife and even forcefully broke into her apartment

Emusan:
Your father the Devil will always be ashamed of you the way you lack wisdom and understanding.

Then shut your dirty mouth.

Emusan:
But your brother claimed they do it despite the fact that there was restriction and was accusing True Christians of being the one who caused it.
Can you see the reason why you're jumping like kangaroo?

Emusan:
because you're living with me....


If not because you lack wisdom, your deluded brother knows what I'm talking about but you just jump into what doesn't concern you and you're spewing thrashes.

[s]Anyways I don't expect much from JaNosense[/s]!

Emusan:
Which mess no dey Jehovah Witness?

List the mess in Christendom
I'll list the mess in JW....let's compare and contrast

Emusan:
So you didn't know origin of the post you quoted but only to jump into the discussion like a lost baboon

:D

You can ask your deluded brother about that

Oponu Janosense

petra1:
Group ? . . .story . . your system is already corrupt according to your standard. you are not in any place to judge any other group

Jashub:
Na only God know who dey serve am . Imagine having holiness on the outside, but a wine bibber on the inside . Tueh

Kobojunkie:
God never told you wine was evil... 2000 years ago, He explained that to you in clear words - [b]Matthew 15 can 10 - 20. your understanding of holiness is severally flawed[/b] as only that which can defile you/make you unclean or son cam make you unholy and bear is not one of them.

Anyways, this man's problem is not holiness which he severally lacks but lack of understanding, slavery to sin due to the lack, and hypocrisy

Bishopkingsley:
As long as you ran away from answering the question I asked you

It shows you are not on the right side what is then the need of sharing the truth to one who do not want to be truthful

Once you answer the question I asked you then we will be able to have a positive discussion it now left for you

Emusan:
So why can't you provide the video of JWs preaching publicly in Saudi Arabia as your lying brother claimed?

Emusan:
And answer my question of what are JWs still doing in a war torn zone when Jesus' command "was to flee" just as he said I didn't obey Jesus' command by staying in Northern part of Nigeria?

You can see the hypocrisy of you people I always talk about.

[s]Anyways, do I expect any meaningful thing from JaNosense?

[/s]

Emusan:
Just as Russell and Rutherford failed woefully in that respect, but unfortunately they are in heaven teaching you people about marriage today.



Hypocrite!