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rottennaija:
https://twitter.com/alertjw/status/1396015079984877569?s=19

As of May 15 2021, more than 17,000 Witnesses have died from Covid 19.

Sanderson also reveals that in the last month 400 JWs died in Brazil and 10x as many JWs died in India compared with the previous month.

MaxInDHouse:
@Preaciousgirl.
Please i tender an apology for disturbing your thread jare, but try to preach about your god in peace without calling out no organization.
Each person is free to practice whatever religion of his/her choice!
May you have PEACE!

Proverbs 8:22-24
1599 Geneva Bible
22 "The Lord hath possessed me in the beginning of his way: I was [a]before his works of old.

24 When there were no depths, was I begotten, when there were no fountains abounding with water."
Footnotes
Proverbs 8:22 He declareth hereby the divinity and eternity of this wisdom, which he magnifieth and praiseth through this book: meaning thereby the eternal son of God Jesus Christ our Savior, whom Saint John calleth that word that was in the beginning, John 1:1.

Genesis14:22, Prov 8:22 "Possessed" = create.
Hebrew qanah.

AntiChristian:
Saying something is a cult is different from saying something looks more like a cult.

Was JW mentioned in the Bible? Yes/No!
Which disciple started it and when?
I'm confused as to when Jesus authorized JW and why he waited for that long!

RussellRutherfo:

[s]What in the World is this Mumu Watchtower Babble Crapper and Rutherford's Gospel Dispenser saying.[/s]

**1
2 Samuel 7:2, 12-13. [s]Arian Heretic and Babble Crap Tracts Distributor[/s]. The real question you should be asking and not all these out of context Bible verses you are quoting. I don't know if you and MaxD do this to distract the person from your organizational lies. I doubt if you Watchtower Babble tract Crappers even read and independently read all these Bible verses. The real question is where did you see the word "Jehovah" in the Masoretic Text of 2 Samuel 7:2; 13. This House that David proposed to build unto the name of the LORD(1Kings5:5 KJV) and What is this name according to Luke 1:31;32-33.


[s]Masonic Hall Russellite&Alarmist False Date Propheciers. Deceiver[/s], [b]
*2.
You quoted 1 Samuel 16:6 to try and make it seem that Prophet Samuel gave a prophecy when he looked at the outward appearance of Eliab and thought plus communicated to the LORD that definitely Eliab must be the One and Yehovah corrected him immediately.
**3
How you dribble this Bible verse to try and make the many embarrassing false prophecies with specific dates(1918, 1925, 1975, etcetera) of Watchtower Real Estate Corporation to seem the same thing will even baffle Satan your father self. Satan punish you there with your twisting and lies against the Word of God[/b]. If Yehovah is with your Babble Crap tracts distributing Corporation. Why did they not get corrected immediately by Yehovah before they took their countless fake dates predictions to the print like Elohim did with Prophet Samuel. Satan punish you and Stephen Lett there. You think you can swindle us as they swindled you, Mumu.

**3
Yehovah allowed the Watchtower Donation receiving Corporation to make mistake 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, etcetera and never whispered to the False and no longer discreet slave of Russell Abu like He did with Prophet Samuel immediately. Prophet Samuel didn't even prophecy here. He thought in his heart as any man would and immediately Yehovah corrected him informing in verse 7 not to look at the outward countenance of Eliab. No where here did Prophet Samuel say this even to Eliab as prophecy. Pathetic Satanic Liars and Watchtower pawns. You are a mad publisher and I have your time to disgrace you today and onwards.

*4
You next quoted Luke 19:11. What a Pathetic Satanic Bag Carrying Liar. You are cursed seriously. Jesus here was in Jericho, not too far far from Jerusalem and about to enter Jerusalem. Jesus Christ spoke a Parable to his disciples. The Greek "autos" meaning "they" in reference to his disciples who were still Phariseous in understanding the scriptures just like Pharisee Jews and Jehovah Witnesses(Modern day Sadducees). The Pentecost. The Holy Spirit was yet to come on them. They were still in training under the Word of God/God(John 1:1-2...Note the Poison JW SilverSword NWT Bible changed God to "a god".

**5
The Disciples and other Jews with him never Jesus Christ expected Jesus Christ as they neared to enter Jerusalem to show Himself as Messiah and the Political Saviour of Israel(they referring to the disciples and the Jews with Jesus Christ thought their entry into Jerusalem meant that the Kingdom of God would appear immediately). This was never a Prophecy by Jesus Christ or his disciples in training. This was a Normal expectation of the disciples just like every modern Israelite even today but look at how this Babble Crap tracts Bas.tard is trying to tie it to J.W false prophecies. I wish you were in my front. I would flog you 100strokes of the whip that Jesus failed to use when he chased the evil imposters(J.W) and thieves from the Temple.

Passover was approaching and from the records on ground by the Jew, Josephus that collaborate the Bible account. More than 2 million Pilgrims would pour into Jerusalem this period and the disciples and other Jews had expectation that the Kingdom of God would appear immediately. How is this a Prophecy by Jesus Christ or his disciples??

The disciples and the other Jews had no holy spirit and were thus foolish just like Jehovah Witnesses today lacking the Holy Spirit of God that bears witness of Jesus Christ. Hence, their groping in the darkness like the Jews before they caught the Holy Spirit and understood things better. Even this is not a prophecy by the Disciples. They gave no prophecy until the Spirit of God came on them and all were confirmed when they did but the Watchtower Donation receiving Society and Babble Crap tracts distributors claimed the Holy Spirit and Channel of communication as Jehovah's representative and failed woefully in the specific years they gave proving beyond all reasonable facts that they are SATAN' WITNESSES.

George MacDonald a pretty rhyme that best described this:
They were all looking for a King
To slay their foes and lift them high
He came a little baby thing
That made a woman cry.


Let me do a poor remix of this(Sing it like some of those Boring Russellite Masonic Hall Songs):
The Watchtower liars gave specific dates
So Jehovah will slay all the Christians and give them paradise
Jehovah/Jesus disappointed their false prophecies and specific dates
Now, they claim new light bulbs will help them rule invisibly in Paradise.


Babble Crap tract Bag Carrying Satanic Liar. Why did Jesus further tell them a Parable of a certain noble man who left to a far country and left the business in the hands of his servants till he returned back and they gave account to him. This was Jesus Christ teaching them in response to their expectation of now that he would as the King of this World leave for a far period of time but will be back and demand account from all. This was no Prophecy that you Masonic Hall Russellite is trying to use to explain away your many Watchtower Babble corporation's false prophecies.


The main sign of false Christian cults like Satanic Witnesses is the alarmist approach and puzzle to try and know what particular date or time the Kingdom of God will come. True Christians don't have that approach to God. This comes from a wicked and satanic state of mind to try and bribe God to hasten the destruction of those they consider worldly while they that are the true pawns of Satan would be given some sort Godly paradise for doing practically nothing. Exactly how the Jews were. Can you imagine the Satanic Witnesses were not even up to 4million when they gave all that false prophecies with specific dates as they were in such race for Satan to destroy many. Even now that they are about 8million J.W. Just one Pentecostal Church in Nigeria has reached more souls than them worldwide despite their show off for hundred of years with nothing really to show as result.

Will Jehovah be such wicked to destroy 8billion people just to please 8m satanic Witnesses and Masonic Hall Russellites?


The Answer is Nope.
The Kingdom of Yehovah awaits for the return of all Souls paid for by His Word, Jesus Christ in all generations.

Mumu LIAR.
1 Samuel 16:6,
Jehovah's Prophet Samuel said "Eliana is the anointed one.
Did Jehovah give that prophecy?

Emusan:
One of the old book that'll continue to expose their lies is "Should you believe in Trinity?"

That book was so full of lies and distortion of truth that after people pointed it out, they have to pull it out of their archives and library but unfortunately for them, many people already with the book.

bingbagbo:
Blasphemy will not be forgiven

Preciousgirl:
John 5:39-42

[39] You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.

[40] But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.

[41] “I do not receive honor from men.

[42] But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you.
THE GOD OF MOSES IS THAT SAME JESUS

Preciousgirl:
John 5:46-47

[46] For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me.

[47]But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

MOSES WROTE ABOUT OUR LORD JESUS

THE GOD OF MOSES IS THAT SAME JESUS

THATS WHY MOSES MET WITH JESUS AT THE TRANSFIGURATION

MOSES KNEW HIM

HALLELUYAH

Preciousgirl:
Jesus is The Father's Name

John 5:43

[43] I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive.

MightySparrow:
Just give a scripture that says God created Jesus, and Jesus created every other thing. I think that is the thrust of the topic.

Is the first born of every child a child?
Bros, what is the meaning of "creature" @ Colossians 1:15?

The truth was revealed in your Trinitarian Bible since 1599 before King James Version DECEIVE una in 1611

Continue DECEIVING yourself.

haddeylium:
Ehhhh...
Now, I get it
You want to learn subtly from Jehovah's witnesses. None of your religious leader could handle God's words like them.

The bolded word 'God' is a corruption added by KJV translators based on biased discretion. The word 'God' in that verse does not exist anywhere in the scriptures. It was 'He'/'Who' that we there. (I know this part won't interest you but I can supply you with more information if you're serious about your enlightenment journey)


Visit Biblehub to check other Translations to confirm this claim

<sub>New Living Translation
Without question, this is the great mystery of our faith: Christ was revealed in a human body and vindicated by the Spirit. He was seen by angels and announced to the nations. He was believed in throughout the world and taken to heaven in glory.

English Standard Version
Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: HE was manifested in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.

Berean Study Bible
By common confession, the mystery of godliness is great: [b]He[/b]appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was proclaimed among the nations, was believed in throughout the world, was taken up in glory.
Christian Standard Bible
And most certainly, the mystery of godliness is great: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
And most certainly, the mystery of godliness is great: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.</sub>

HopeLoveLife:
I wouldn’t want to reveal this for security purposes but not far from Lagos

PrincessGlow:
Which spirit? I'm not surprised u asked that question because I can now see the concept is alien to JWs. Well the Bible says many things. If u quote something to prove a point, something else can be quoted to disprove it. The SPIRIT is what let's you see through all that to the nature of the Person you claim to be following - His Spirit. So someone shows u where it says an eye for an eye or Sodom, u don't have to read anything to know that does not tally with the Spirit. Same way, you don't have to read anything to know that communal shunning does not tally with the Spirit.
It is what Pagans would do and (as Christ would ask) what then us the difference between you and pagans?
Not only that, YOU know you are in no position to judge anybody. You know u r a sinner. The only difference between you and those u r shunning is that you have not been caught or that you sin differently!

AntiChristian:
This is extremely funny! The concept of Islam is simple. Sunni means those following the tradition of Muhammad. Shia' means those that split from a group.

Islam entails obeying Allah and the Prophet. And as a Sunni, I don't believe all shiites are not Muslims like you believe you are the only Christians.

Why did Jesus forgot to mention Jehovah witness by name?

JW looks more like a cult group!

RussellRutherfo:
All these should perfectly describe your Rolls-Royce&Beth-Sarin Real Estate Purchasing Adulterer Judge Rutherford who wanted to make tenants of "resurrected" Abraham, etcetera but failed woefully.

Please, Watchtower Babble and Crap Tracts Distributor. How much would have the Late Rutherford been receiving from a "resurrected" Abraham as his tenant if that false prophecy had come to pass?

RussellRutherfo:


These Babble Crap Tracts Distributors are such professional Bible Maradonas.

RussellRutherfo:
WATCHTOWER&BABBLE CRAP TRACTS DISTRIBUTOR.


I have been waiting for your nonsensical response and without fail. You came through to try and defend your 8-Men Realtor American Corporation that are the offshoot of Seventh Day Adventists/Nelson H. Barbour/Millerites false alarmist movement. A Plagiarizer Organisation.
You don't represent Jesus Christ. You are an Arian Heretics that represents Satan and his lying ways. You usually babble a lot of false crap out of your anus. You must be a Bethelite Whisky Drunk Companion of your American Mediator on Earth, Drunk Anthony Morris. I will match your lousiness fire for fire. Whoever is behind the MaxD moniker, your fellow Arian Heretic brother is more reasonable than you.

In your usual JW Babble Crap of misquoting the Bible giving the Bible verses a different context from what it usually is just to fit the Watchtower Corporation constant flip-flop new "light" doctrines to those that never study the Bible. You first quoted Matthew 24:14. Let me reproduce them because you Masonic Russellites don't preach the gospel of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ. You Masonic Russellites renamed by Adulterer Judge Rutherford as JW preach Nelson H. Barbour's false Antichrist gospel and Satan disappointed you lots severally when you all predicted the end of things (Records all available).


Matthew 24:14 Poison SilverSword NWT Bible:
And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations,+ and then the end will come

And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Matthew 24:14 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/mat.24.14.KJV

What is the Gospel of the Kingdom? And who is the owner of this Kingdom? Are these False prophecy Bethelite Babble Crap tracts distributors really the ones sharing the Gospel of the Kingdom of our LORD Jesus Christ as they usually lie to weak "Christians" and everyother person despite the fact that their records hold so many evidences that they preach not the gospel of the kingdom of Jesus Christ but a steady poisonous diet of carefully selected twisted and misapplied Bible verses subtly put up to make it seem like what they have is truth instead of the lies they represent.

For example:

“In this time of the end, Jehovah’s people have been commissioned to preach “this good news of the Kingdom . . . in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations.” (Matt 24:14) The message we spread is also “the good news of the undeserved kindness of God” because all the blessings we hope to receive under Kingdom rule come to us through Jehovah’s kindness expressed by means of Christ. (Eph. 1:3) Do we individually imitate Paul in showing gratitude for Jehovah’s undeserved kindness by zealously sharing in the ministry?—Read Romans 1:14-16” – par. 4

Let us break this down so that nothing passed off as fact goes untested.


“In this time of the end”

By “time of the end”, Jehovah’s Witnesses mean that Armageddon is very close. The overlapping generation calculation puts it at no more than twenty years out, with general sentiment putting it much closer. (See They’re Doing It Again.) However, there is no Bible evidence that we are in a special, down-to-the-wire time of the end. Granted, the end could come this year, but it could also come 100 years or more into the future without a single letter of God’s word failing to come true. So this opening phrase is misleading at best.

“Jehovah’s people have been commissioned to preach ‘this good news of the Kingdom’”

This is a partial truth. Christians—all Christians—are Jehovah’s people. However, by “Jehovah’s people” the article doesn’t mean all Christians, it means “Jehovah’s Witnesses.” Jehovah’s Witnesses were not specifically commissioned by Jesus at Matthew 28:18-19 to fulfill Matthew 24:14. This statement is therefore also misleading.

“Jehovah’s people have been commissioned to preach ‘this good news of the Kingdom’…because all the blessings we hope to receive under Kingdom rule…”

This is the big one!

The article quotes Paul at Acts 20:24 where he speaks of bearing “thorough witness to the good news of the undeserved kindness of God.” This is then equated to the good news of the kingdom that Jehovah’s Witnesses preach. This good news concerns “the blessings we hope to receive under Kingdom rule.”

Paul’s message wasn’t about the hope of living under Kingdom rule. It was about inheriting the Kingdom as rulers. This is evident when one reads just a few verses down from Acts 20:24. After warning about “oppressive wolves” who would speak “twisted things to draw away disciples after themselves” (vs. 30), he speaks of undeserved kindness by saying, “now I entrust you to God and to the word of his undeserved kindness, which word can build you up and give you the inheritance among all the sanctified ones.” (Ac 20:32)

What is the inheritance? Is it the hope of being ruled? Or is it the hope of ruling?

Nowhere—let’s repeat that for emphasis—NOWHERE does the Bible speak about God’s undeserved kindness resulting in Christians living under Kingdom rule. On the other hand, it does speak repeatedly about Christians doing the ruling.

“For if by the trespass of the one [man] death ruled as king through that one, much more will those who receive the abundance of the undeserved kindness and of the free gift of righteousness rule as kings in life through the one [person], Jesus Christ.” (Ro 5:17)

“. . .YOU men already have YOUR fill, do YOU? YOU are rich already, are YOU? YOU have begun ruling as kings without us, have YOU? And I wish indeed that YOU had begun ruling as kings, that we also might rule with YOU as kings.” (1Co 4:

“. . .Faithful is the saying: Certainly if we died together, we shall also live together; if we go on enduring, we shall also rule together as kings; if we deny, he also will deny us; if we are unfaithful, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny himself.” (2Ti 2:11-13)

“. . .and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.”” (Re 5:10)

If we contrast the message of these verses against the complete absence of a message about Christians being ruled by the Kingdom of the heavens, there is firm basis for calling the good news as preached by Jehovah’s Witnesses a massive deception.

achorladey:
Your friend can't understand this!

Interesting

When a member of JWs first dedicate himself to JEHOVAH our God will dispense a measure of the Holy Spirit to such a person

Not organization, fine!

but when such a person decides to break away from the rest of the body (Organization) the spirit will leave him/her

Why will the spirit leave him because ORGANIZATION = GOD. In reality the Jehovah God members dedicated themselves too is the ORGANIZATION

so even when a person still learning can perceive something the Apostate will only continue to argue because the spirit is no more with him

The reason why the Jehovah God aka ORGANIZATION will keep disfellowshipping members and members keep disassociating as a result of the old books of the organization aka Jehovah God.

Preciousgirl:
John 4:22

You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews.

Preciousgirl:
John 3:13,36

[13]No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.

[36] He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

PrincessGlow:
I have never had anything to do with JW like I stated b4. Infact this is the first time I've had this type of argument.
But I've now seen JW are mislead. You are not followers of Christ. You are followers of JW. I pray one day you get a true understanding of these things.
Ciao

PrincessGlow:
You keep confusing yourself splitting hairs.
I keep directing you to the SPIRIT you claim to be following and you keep quoting words you yourself say could have been tampered with. If John whatever was inserted how do you know how accurate Sodom story was? You don't have to know all that if u r directed by the SPIRIT. Does the Spirit Jesus tally with destroying a city because they are sinners??
You don't have to read anything to know the answer.
Meditate on the artwork below:

PrincessGlow:
My friend everybody is not in Nigeria

achorladey:
I have completed my own discussion concerning this [b]shunning palaver a month or two back.[/b] The outcome still very much available on nairaland.

They will keep recycling those scriptures given already.

Until you've done so

Done what?

you are proven to this forum that you lack SENSE

Out of the abundance of your heart your mouth speaks. What is your mouth spilling out this time

you lack SENSE

The reason I ask the other time that prayer that requires you holding your head and praying for sense you need it more than myself.

achorladey:
Haven't you seen one calling me APOSTATES for citing an old publications of the organization?

The JWs will equally disfellowshiped and shun anyone that holds on to anything contrary to what was dished out by their religious leaders.

In essence when the religious leaders of their organization says the [b]white background associated with where I typed this words is green, regardless of who/whom you are you must say it is green despite seeing or knowing that it is white should you still value your stay in the organization.

JWs will equally shun any of the members who resigned or disassociated from it's religious organization (special people that leads others to sin )

After all it is captured in their publications that those who disassociated should be treated like a disfellowshiped somebody.
[/b]
I have completed my own discussion concerning this shunning palaver a month or two back. The outcome still very much available on nairaland.

They will keep recycling those scriptures given already.

Quarantine, covid-19 isolation and disfellowship is for the same purpose-
Protection from anyone whose "health issues" pose a risk to the well-being of the community.
1 Corinthians 5:1-13.
James 5:14-16, 2 Timothy 3:16, The sick individual will receive needed help /treatment from Congregation Elders to aid his recovery.
Can a doctor treat a patient who rejects & refuse treatment?
1 Corinthians 10:6-11, Numbers 16:23-26 Jehovah's example dey your Bible, Unremorseful , unrepentant ones won't receive Jehovah's mercy.
Bitter pill of truth giving Achorladey sifia pains

PrincessGlow:
achorladey, MaxInDHouse, Janosky
oaroloye

To the JW's still defending the evil called shunning:

What did Christ say to those about to stone the woman accused of adultery?? Yet He knew they could show him where it was written in the Scriptures.

See, the only difference between you and those you are judging and shunning is that you sin differently, or that you have not been caught. Imagine ostracizing a young girl to suicide because she fell in love with a non-JW! Does that make sense to you? Maybe her fiance would have become a JW observing how kindly JW treated his wife.

Here's that Christ's parable again. Try to read it with understanding. Note especially the bolded


22 Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.[g](V)

23 “Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like(W) a king who wanted to settle accounts(X) with his servants. 24 As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand bags of gold[h] was brought to him. 25 Since he was not able to pay,(Y) the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold(Z) to repay the debt.

26 “At this the servant fell on his knees before him.(AA) ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ 27 The servant’s master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go.

28 “But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred silver coins.[i] He grabbed him and began to choke him. ‘Pay back what you owe me!’ he demanded.

29 “His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay it back.’

30 “But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt. 31 When the other servants saw what had happened, they were outraged and went and told their master everything that had happened.

32 “Then the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. 33 Shouldn’t you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?’ 34 In anger his master handed him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.

35 “This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother or sister from your heart.”(AB)

chatinent:
What night hunger cannot do doesn't exist.

stupidmod3:
let me pray for u, bow ur empty brain first

stupidmod3:
u really foolish hope u know that.
be claiming victim there Am not ur God but i know he is disappointed in u


illiterate

MightySparrow:
Just give a scripture that says God created Jesus, and Jesus created every other thing. I think that is the thrust of the topic.

Preciousgirl:
John 10:30
[30] I and My Father are one.”

stupidmod3:
well preaching is not ur calling neither is English.

LordReed:
LoL! The name is not because of the year it came out. Also you said that the order for lockdowns came 100years exactly after 1919, lockdowns started in 2020 so unless you don't know how to count you are wrong.