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Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky:
shadeyinka:
I concur with that!

You serve the Jehovah with the synonym "Governing Body the Jehovah's witness organisation" which is not known by either Abraham, Isaac or Jacob. Your organisation isn't known by any of the apostles or the disciples of Christ everywhere in the world.


I rest my case!
Bros, the last time you rest your case, your own Jesus is the true God, not the Jesus of John17:3 and John 20:17.

Anytime you rest your case na FALSEHOOD

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Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 6:03pm On Feb 07, 2021
shadeyinka:
So, you are just discovering that Jehovah is different from the Jehovah's witness organisation you worship as God.

We certainly have never worshiped the same God. We certainly refer to a different Jesus Christ.
The Jesus of John 20:17 ,17:3 & Acts 3:13 is the Jesus of Jehovah's servants.
That is not Shadeyinka's Jesus.
The proof is in the screenshot.
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Christianity EtcRe: You Can't Claim To Believe The Scriptures And Deny That Yahushua Is God Almight. by Janosky: 5:37pm On Feb 07, 2021
elated177:
What is your motive?

Is Yahushua the Messiah the Word of the Father or not?
You open this thread, the question is:

Bros, who is the Father of your God Almighty, Yahushua?
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by Janosky:
jesusjnr2020:
Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ?

This was the instruction Christ gave to His disciples who are considered to be the first and earliest set of Christians:

Acts 1:8 (KJV)

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

If this saying of Christ was anything to go by, it showed that witnessing Christ unto the world was a key function of a true disciple of Christ or Christian.

But there's a group known that claim to be the real or true Christians, however instead of witnessing Christ to the world as Christ had instructed His disciples or true Christians to do, they do the exact opposite.

They demean Christ as the Pharisees who also claimed to be servants of Jehovah, yet wanted to stone Jesus when He said He was the Son of God because *1.
they believed He hence made Himself equal with God. [/b]John 10:30-33

[b]*2
They also say Jesus Is the same as angel Michael. Imagine that the same Jesus that angels worship was angel Micheal. Maybe to them angels worship themselves. And Jesus also called an angel, "Mine angel", so maybe angels now have their own angels according to the group.

Hebrew 1:5-6, Revelation 22:16

They claim there's no 'hell fire" despite that Jesus clearly spoke about "hell fire" on numerous occasions. Matthew 5:22,13:40,42,50,18:8,9, 25:41.

And many other antichrist things they do and doctrines they preach, despite claiming to be the true Christians!

If I say "Jehovah", you say, "Witnesses" na you sabi oh.

What i know is that it's impossible for any group to be true Christians without being witnesses of Christ as Christ Himself had instructed us to be.

God bless.
Jnr Mumu claim.
John 7:16 and John 15:15, whose doctrine did Jesus Christ teach you?
Matt27:46, your deity dey beg him Big God to save am cheesy grin grin
* 1.
The Jews made a FALSE allegation.
Adam is the son of God,does that confer equality with God to Adam? (Bros, reason well, God gave you brain).
Is John 19:6-7 in your Bible?
Therefore, your claim is FALSE.


*2[b].
Is Daniel 10:13, 2 Thess1:7-9, Matthew 25:31, Hebrew 1:4-5 missing in your Bible ?
Who leads other sons of God in your Bible ?
Revelation 12:7,9 & 1 John 3:8 who fulfilled the prophetic decree in Genesis 3:15 ?

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Gehenna in Matthew 5:22 etc is not hellfire.
Jude 1:7, Is everlasting fire of sodom and gomorrah tormenting them today?
Your Trinity mentors changed Gehenna to 'hellfire' for their own self serving interests.
Please don't DECEIVE yourself
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 4:48pm On Feb 07, 2021
Image123:
Is Adam in Heaven?
Genesis 3:19
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 4:42pm On Feb 07, 2021
Image123:
Who's His mother in Heaven then? How is He Son and servant together? Is your son or daughter your servant? Na question i ask oh, no come with insult or joke.
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Bros , you go abeg begin look for the mother of Adam nau
On a serious note, at Acts 3:13, the Greek word means "Son/Servant".
Please confirm it yourself.
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Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 4:40pm On Feb 07, 2021
shadeyinka2:
Heb 1:8:
"But God says about the Son, “Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom."

Ps 45:6:
"Your throne, O God, is forever and ever: A scepter of equity is the scepter of your kingdom."
Hebrew 1:8 is a word for word quote of Psalms 45:6.
Bros, please Read Psalms 45:6 in the New Jerusalem Bible, published by the Catholic Church your Trinity mentors and Godfathers.
Bros, Hebrew 1;8 quote of Psalms 45:6 is NOT in the Jewish masoretic text, a prime source of the old testament bible.

Revelation 3:21= Luke 1:31-33, Psalms 45:6 &
1 Chronicles 29:23.
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Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 4:34pm On Feb 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
These are the problems caused by incompetent translators!
So you will quote but fail to substantiate cause the incompetence of those translators have led you astray! embarassed




Check a clear and concise translation below! smiley
It seems Shadeyinka is not aware that the Jewish masoretic text is a prime source for old testament bible.

Hebrew 1:8 is a word for word quote of Psalms 45:6.
If Shadeyinka reads Psalms 45:6 in the New Jerusalem Bible, published by the Catholic Church, his Trinity mentors and Godfathers .
He go jakpa from the fraud of Hebrews 1:8

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Christianity EtcRe: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by Janosky: 4:27pm On Feb 07, 2021
iyambz:
It’s necessary to call them out because they are like foxes. Even the Bible commanded us to call a false congregation out (Rev 2:2 kjv). They never come to you in a violent manner, but always in a peaceful and a seductive manner with their doctrines.
Jesus christ is a Jehovah's Witness.
John 7:16 whose doctrine did Jesus teach?

Is Isaiah 43:10-12, Acts 3:13. John 9:4 Matthew 12:15-18 ,Mark 1:14-15 & Matt 24:14 missing in your Bible?

Continue DECEIVING yourselves
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Christianity EtcRe: You Can't Claim To Believe The Scriptures And Deny That Yahushua Is God Almight. by Janosky: 4:07pm On Feb 07, 2021
elated177:
Where did I even imply such a thing not to talk of stating it explicitly?
You Can't Claim To Believe The Scriptures And Deny That Yahushua Is God Almight. by elated177: 1:01pm On Jan 23.


In other words ,Elated177 says, Yahushua is God Almighty.

Bros, who is the Father of your God Almighty, Yahushua?
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Christianity EtcRe: You Can't Claim To Believe The Scriptures And Deny That Yahushua Is God Almight. by Janosky: 4:06pm On Feb 07, 2021
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Christianity EtcRe: Is This Okay? by Janosky: 3:59pm On Feb 07, 2021
kponkedenge:
I saw this on twitter.... Is this really okay?
Luke 21:1-4 & 2 Corinthians 9:7 is the biblical standard.
IYKYK
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 3:51pm On Feb 07, 2021
shadeyinka2:
Isa 9:6:
"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given: and the government shall be on his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
Bros no dey DECEIVE yourself grin grin.
The Son sent to earth is still his Father's son in heaven.
Is Matthew 12:15-18, John 20:17, Luke 1:31-33 & Revelation 3:21 missing from your Bible?
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 3:40pm On Feb 07, 2021
Emusan:
What about you? You're destroying your soul...



If you don't lack basic English, you'd have seen this without exposing your ignorance.

Lemme break it down for you because I know, you're a toddler.

The writer: speaks in first person pronoun "I" i.e "Then I heard the voice of Jehovah saying..."

The writer switches to first person pronoun which means Jehovah is the ONE SPEAKING NOW.

Jehovah: Who shall I (Jehovah) send and who will go for US (Jehovah)?

This is a question, that needs answer!

And guess who answered it! The same Jehovah Himself because Jehovah continues to speak in the same first person pronoun.

"And I said, here I am! Send me"

If the entity speaking is totally different from the speaker then it will be a grammatical gaganrium for the speaker to continue speaking in first person pronoun.





Hypocrite!

Do you agree with the same Wesley commentary & Geneva Bible Commentary on John 1:1, Heb 1, John 1:3, Rev 3:14?

LYING dullard, Isaiah is among the "us" in Isaiah 6:8 listening to Jehovah's speech.

Jehovah Himself Is "I" , NOT your 3 dogheads.

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Is Jesus Christ archangel Michael ?
Your 3 idol spirits devotees brethren confirmento. This fact is giving you sifia pains
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Bros, Is your 3 dogheads Archangel Michael?
Continue DECEIVING yourself.
Christianity EtcRe: How To Identify A Cult Or A False Doctrine Congregation by Janosky:
BENARI:
Watchtower organisation comes to mind
False claim. cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 11:26pm On Feb 06, 2021
To
shadeyinka2:
So you mean Jesus is angel Michael?
Is Daniel 10:13, 2 Thess1:7-9, Matthew 25:31, Hebrew 1:4-5 missing in your Bible ?
Who leads other sons of God in your Bible ?
Revelation 12:7,9 & 1 John 3:8 who fulfilled the prophetic decree in Genesis 3:15 ?

Your 3 idol spirits devotees brethren ,Wesley Notes , Geneva Bible Commentary & Trapp's Commentary on Daniel 10:13 (plus others)
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Bros, shine your eyes.
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 11:14pm On Feb 06, 2021
Image123:
Sit down and meditate on it. It may be the best decision you made in the last 10 years.
Bros, continue DECEIVING yourself and upload GIBBERISH grin cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: How To Identify A Cult Or A False Doctrine Congregation by Janosky:
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Christianity EtcRe: How To Identify A Cult Or A False Doctrine Congregation by Janosky:
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Christianity EtcRe: How To Identify A Cult Or A False Doctrine Congregation by Janosky:
iyambz:
How to identify a cult or a false doctrine congregation:

1). New revelation: It’s something that God told them and didn’t tell anyone else. They dont go by traditional doctrine and beliefs. They have got something new and exciting. Something that no one else has that they claimed that Jesus or God or an angel appeared to them in a dream or a vision and gave them something special. See (Colossians 2:2-3 kjv) to refute this stupid claim.

2) A new interpretation: They are right and everybody is wrong. To refute see 2 Peter 1:20.

3). They have a non Biblical source of authority. This means they have sacred writings in addition to the Bible. To refute, see (Psalms 119:89 kjv).

4). They believe in salvation by works. Works to get saved and works to stay saved. To refute, see (Ephesians 2:8-9, 4:30, Titus 3:5 kjv).

5). They have an earthly leader that has been appointed by God to represent God while they are here on earth. To refute, see (Matt 24:4-5, 1 Corinthians 3:21 kjv).

6). They have another messiah. They teach that Jesus is a god and a created being. Sometimes a prophet or a good man, but he is not part of the trinity. See (1 Tim 3:16 kjv).

7). They reject Biblical Christianity. To refute, see (Isaiah 5:20, Colossians 2:8 kjv).

8 ) .They have a changing theology. Their doctrines are not clear. They keep changing their beliefs to fit into the society. See (Ephesians 4:14-15, 2 Tim 3:7 kjv).
*2 2 Peter 1:20
"Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation of things"

Did 2 Peter 1:20 make your fictitious claim?

Continue DECEIVING yourself grin grin

*1.
Your Pastorpreneurs told you he drank tea with his deity.
Did his deity tell you or anyone else?
"God" spoke to your Pastorpreneurs, did his "God" speak the same message to you?
You swallow the GIBBERISH no questions asked.

*3, *6 &*7
John 10:34-36 , Jesus says sons of God are gods. Jesus is a god. grin
The question repeats again & you go jakpa grin
Bros, John 20:17, John 17:3 & Rev 3:12,21,( 'is the Bible's christianity spoken by Jesus Christ) did Jesus reject your claim at John 1:1?

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*4.
Bros, John 9:4, do you have faith than Jesus, Which work was he doing with the disciples?

*5.
Yet , you go to a Pastorpreneurs business center (alias 'church' ) weekly and pay membership fees monthly plus other weekly dues .
HYPOCRITE grin cheesy

*8.
Bros , John 16:16-18, 1 Corinthians 15:12, did the disciples change their beliefs ?
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 10:16pm On Feb 06, 2021
Image123:
It always a miraculous baffle how JWickedness often stand on one leg to fight and discredit and misinterpret dozens of legs. Doctrine is not built on one leg, it is an ultimate set up for failure. They and many others need to learn this basic else they continue to confuse themselves to defend elder Russell.
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Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 10:15pm On Feb 06, 2021
shadeyinka2:
So you mean Jesus is an angel?
Bros, what is the meaning of 'angel'?
Go figure it out, no be rocket science grin cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky:
shadeyinka2:
As if God cannot send Himself on errands.
As if God cannot speak to Himself.

But, that's not the point: the point is, if Jesus is NOT an angel according to the scripture, how could he be an archangel?
Bros, why you dey DECEIVE yourself?
Isaiah 6:8 Then I heard the voice of Jehovah saying: “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” And I said: “Here I am! Send me!”

Isaiah 6:8 is missing in your Bible?
Is Isaiah among the "us"?

1 Thess 4:16 , John 5:26-28, whose voice will resurrect the dead ?

2 Thess1:7-9, Matthew 25:31, Hebrew 1:4-5, Daniel 10:13 who leads other sons of God ?
Wesley Commentary & Geneva Bible Commentary na your 3 idol spirits devotees brethren write am

Christianity EtcRe: Other Issues With The Jehovah Witnesses by Janosky: 12:35am On Feb 06, 2021
iyambz:
Other issues with the Jehovah witnesses


7. They do not believe that Hell is eternal fire. That Hell is Hades (meaning grave). To debunk: (a). (Mark 9:43-44 kjv) proves that there’s nothing like annihilation. (b). In their NWT they use Gehenna which means trash heap outside of the city. Gehenna is a Greek word. Greek words usually have different interpretation. Gehenna also means Hell. Now read (Mark 9:43-44) and replace the word Hell with Gehenna (trash heap) to see how ludicrous it will sound. (c). (Mark 9:43-44) If you look up worm in the Bible, it means humans in depravity. A saved Christian meanwhile gets a glorious body (1 Cor 15:51-53 kjv).
Is that trash heap outside of Jerusalem a place of eternal torture and torment ?

Please can use your Bible to show this forum proof that which living persons were tortured & tormented forever in Gehenna ?

Jesus said Gehenna (a trash heap, not a place for eternal torture) but your mentors changed Gehenna to hellfire & you are asking how ludicrous Gehenna (the words of Jesus) sounds,
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Your Trinity mentors wan manufacture man made doctrine them change Gehenna to hellfire
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Christianity EtcRe: Other Issues With The Jehovah Witnesses by Janosky: 12:08am On Feb 06, 2021
iyambz:
Like I said from my first post, the thread was never for the JWs to repent, I made that clear. The thread was for the simple so they don't get deceived.
The Bros wey Jakpa from quote of the words of Jesus Christ @ John 20:17, John 17:3 & Rev 3:12,21, wan preach wetin?
Bros , you been come open thread for gullible clientele of Churchpreneurs ? grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Other Issues With The Jehovah Witnesses by Janosky: 12:03am On Feb 06, 2021
iyambz:
We don't use the same Bible, so nothing I say here will matter to you. The watch tower society is the first thing that is in every JWs. That Organization comes before the Bible.
JWs use all Bibles, anyone you bring we are ready wella.
Bros, please do yourself a favor .
Please quote John 20:17, John 17:3 & Rev 3:12,21 in that Bible you will carry to church on Sunday.
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Christianity EtcRe: Other Issues With The Jehovah Witnesses by Janosky: 11:58pm On Feb 05, 2021
iyambz:
Other issues with the Jehovah witnesses



3. They believe only the 144,000 can go to Heaven. To debunk: (a). Every saved believer will go to Heaven. (1 Pet 1:4-5 kjv) shows that there’s a reservation for a saved believer in Heaven. (b). A saved Christian’s seat is already reserved in Heaven (Eph 2:5-6 kjv). (c). Rev 7:4 shows that the 144,000 are actually Jews. Vs 5-8 shows the tribes. Though the JWs will claim that they are spiritual Jews. Well to debunk this also, see Rev 14:3-4 which shows that the 144,000 are single males, the men God will use to tackle the antichrist system because they are not defiled and no family obligations, they need full time dedication. (d). (John 3:3,5; 1 John 5:1 kjv) shows its those who are born again will go to Heaven.
Bros , who told you that all the tribes of ancient Israel stated in Revelation 7:4-8?
Please go and learn the tribes of israel in the old testament, no dey DECEIVE yourself.
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Because Matthew 5:5, Psalms 37:29, 2 Peter 3:13, Isaiah 35:4-8, Isaiah & Revelation 21:1-5 are missing in your Bible.
For your deluded mind, Isaiah 65:17-25 will fulfill where ? grin cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Other Issues With The Jehovah Witnesses by Janosky:
iyambz:
Other issues with the Jehovah witnesses

1. They don’t believe that the Holy Ghost and Jesus is God. They claim that the Spirit is a force or energy. (Does force sound familiar to you? May the force be with you? Star Wars?). To debunk: (a). (Heb 3:7-12 cr Psa 95:7-11 kjv). This is Paul quoting from the O.T. This proves that Jehovah is Holy Ghost. (b). (2 Cor 3:17-18). Holy Ghost is God. Even their NWT says “Jehovah is the Spirit.” (c). (In Acts 5:3-4) Ananias lied to the Holy Ghost. He is a person. (d). (Acts 21:4) The Spirit now speaking to Paul and forbade him not to go to Jerusalem. Vs 11 shows who said it to Paul. Paul usually used “thus saith the Holy Ghost” when he is quoting Scriptures from the O.T. (Acts 22:18-19) is repeating Acts 21, and Paul said “Lord.” He called who forbade him to go to Jerusalem “Lord.” (e). (Acts 28:25-27) Paul quoting the O.T. from (Isa 6:8-10). The Lord said, “whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” The “us” proving there is trinity.
Isaiah 6:6-8, Jehovah said "whom shall I send?"
"I" in Isaiah 6:6-8 is how many spirits?
Did Isaiah 6:6-8 tell Iyambz that 'I' means "us"?
Jehovah addressed the legions of spirits with him in heaven, is Job 38:4-7 in your Bible?

John 4:24, Bros, you know Bible pass Jesus Christ, answer this question: God is how many spirits?
Bros, @John 4:24, did Jesus Christ & Isaiah 6:6-8
God is Spirit, "I", reject your claim?
Bros, is "I" Triune? grin cheesy

Bros, your Trinity mentors says "the Father God is not the Son, the Father God is not holy spirit" @ 2Cor 3:17,18, you shortchanged your Trinity GIBBERISH ,
Jehovah is not a ghost grin
@ Psalms 83:18, you no know the meaning of "Most High", @ John 17:3, "the ONLY" grin cheesy cheesy grin

Exodus 31:18
When He had finished speaking with him upon Mount Sinai, He gave Moses the two tablets of the testimony, tablets of stone, written by the finger of God.
Exodus 31:18, "He" is how many spirits?

Exodus 24:12
Now Jehovah said to Moses, “Come up to Me on the mountain and remain there, and I will give you the stone tablets with the law and the commandment which I have written for their instruction.”
Exodus 24:12, "Me"/"I" is how many spirits?

Exodus 32:16
The tablets were God’s work, and the writing was God’s writing engraved on the tablets.

Exodus 34:1
Now Jehovah said to Moses, “Cut out for yourself two stone tablets like the former ones, and I will write on the tablets the words that were on the former tablets which you shattered.

Luke 11:20
But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

Matthew 12:28
But if I cast out demons by the spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

* Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28, Jesus says you twisted Hebrews 3:7-12 & Psa 95:7-11.
Bros, is Acts 1:8 is missing in your Bible?
You speak through your phone, you speak through this forum, God spoke through his holy spirit grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Other Issues With The Jehovah Witnesses by Janosky: 10:07pm On Feb 05, 2021
iyambz:
Nah, no need because the Bible is not in your heart. I have already exposed the watch tower society. It will do you no harm if you let the Bible stand independent, and speak to you.
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Bros iyambz says he "let the Bible stand independent, and speak to you"
Bros ,I have you a simple question for you:
John 20:17, John 17:3 & Rev 3:12,21, did Jesus Christ reject your claim on John 1:1 ?
Christianity EtcRe: The Cult Named Jehovah Witness by Janosky: 3:28pm On Feb 05, 2021
MightySparrow:

We should not expect people like Paul, Phillip, Peter let alone others that by their gospel cast out devil's in the kingdom of God. [/b]Delusion.
You better wake up from your Pharisee's ( far - you - see) mentality. [b]If you can condemn those who gave the world the knowledge of God because of wrong indoctrination
. Are you not living in delusion? Continue to deceive yourself. Just continue.
Please explain the bolded.... What's your point?
What knowledge of God has a practicer of spiritism given to the world?
Christianity EtcRe: The Cult Named Jehovah Witness by Janosky: 3:23pm On Feb 05, 2021
MightySparrow:
So John 9: 31 is refuted.
You know now grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Cult Named Jehovah Witness by Janosky: 3:18pm On Feb 05, 2021
MightySparrow:
I see, so JWs are the ones to advise Jehovah which /whose prayers to answer. I told you from the beginning that you are living in delusion.
When you stopped deceiving yourself reply me. You people are in spiritual slumber and you want to teach about a God you don't know. SMH.
Does the fact that Judas iscariot was a disciple, mean that Jehovah's servants (Jesus & other disciples ) were "in spiritual slumber"?

Acts 15:14 , Isaiah 43:10-12, 2 Chro7:14 (ASV), if you have to wear goggles to study it, please do.
IYKYK
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