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johnw47:
[s]oh duh duh duh know nothing false jw janosky
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Jesus had the Fathers glory before the creation of the world as the Word of God

when the disciples are with Jesus in Heaven they will see that glory that Jesus has with the Father


[s]oh so confused hearer of voices laughing in your head, also get understanding

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.[/s]



Joh 17:24  Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

"[s]where i am"
if "in Heaven" was added or if it was worded "where I shall be"
then maybe you wouldn't be as confused[/s], truly the disciples cannot see the glory Jesus had with God the Father before creation until they are with Jesus in heaven, oh one of no understanding at all


[s]Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:

you big fraud jw you, try and understand at least something that is said:
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Jesus Christ would have received back His glory that He had with His Father
forty days after his body was resurrected, after He ascended to Heaven and with His Father

Emusan:
So funny....

Let's replace your definition in the verse.

Jesus is the IMAGE belonging to the invisible God (the Father)

Can you see what the scripture is saying here is that, the IMAGE OF GOD is Jesus Himself?

Which means without Jesus the Father has NO IMAGE.

And man was created in the Image of God

Mr LIENUS, always glued to orishirishi doctrines .
Every creature is in God's image.
The first born of every creature is no exception.
1 Corinthians 3:23 says RECEIVE SENSE

livingchrist:
False witness, Jesus got back his human life John 10 vv17

achorladey:
Will giving you the name of any church make you see their church as TRUE CHRISTIANS?

The stuff hit you, you decided to enter TURNCOAT. What other qualifier do you have

I hope the KELEBE is sent upwards you only need to face upward so that the KELEBE can hit you on your face

livingchrist:
Argue with watch tower

achorladey:
You should have asked him will LIVINGCHRIST CHURCH make him see your church as TRUE CHRISTIANS?

johnw47:
i witness that Christ's Spirit/the Word of God raised His body just like He said He would

Joh 2:19  Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

livingchrist:
what is the name of the church peter attend, if you can answer me, I will tell you the name of my church

Image123:
Light and darkness are not the same, were you fooled before? Do you walk in light, no you walk in hatred, hypocrisy and prejudice. You and your cohort pharisees have the same father. Repent and be set free.

freshboi88:
But u r not a church but a cult now

livingchrist:
He thinks everybody is as deluded as him.
I know he wont be able to answer

Emusan:
You'll wait for the answer till thy kingdom come.

If not because you're wiser than him, he can boldly say, kingdom hall of JWs.

livingchrist:
what is the name of the church peter attend, if you can answer me, I will tell you the name of my church

Continue DECEIVING yourselves, 3 dogheads worshippers console themselves

livingchrist:
Jesus is both man and God and could share same glory with the father.

ublight:
i see a fellow who is eager to prove his folly in public.

ublight:
Jesus is not standing at the right hand SIDE. He is at the right hand. There is a difference.

No dey vomit nonsense

Image123:
Did you just compare God to dogheads? Oh, you're one of the Jwickedness. They don't have any Life but awake. You should be afraid to dishonor God.

Image123:
If i explained this, you would not appreciate it. Thought you said there's only one Lord? Is Jesus Lord?

Image123:
Good. We are at least agreed on something, you discovered gold. IT IS PLURAL. Now, who told you that it is not a plural of persons? Help figure.



[s]Don't claim to respect me and insult me at the same time. God's servants don't do that. Anyway, you are Jwickedness slave, it's beyond you to obey God's Word.
Tribes of Israel and the nation itself as a whole is referred to with same and similar pronouns. Did you ever notice that? No, you don't read the Bible for yourselves. Only passages programmed and arranged to suit your will.[/s]



Read the Bible, He is Elohim, PLURAL. God in three persons.

The Bible says God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit is God. Read.

Image123:
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Job 38:1  Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, 
Job 38:2  Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? 
Job 38:3  Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. 
Job 38:4  Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. 
Job 38:5  Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? 
Job 38:6  Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; 
Job 38:7  When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? 
Job 38:8  Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb? 

What part of this passage says that God was talking to spirit beings of Job 38 during the creation of man or in Gen 11v7? This passage says that the morning stars sang together and the sons of God shouted for joy. It doesn't say that God spoke to them about creating man. Or maybe you can present a better version that says what janomighty is saying.

jesusjnr2020:
Angels worship Jesus!

Hebrews 1:2-6 (KJV)

Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

This is a proof that Jesus was never an angel as all angels worshipped Him, and angels never worship themselves or even allow themselves to be worshipped even by men talk less of themselves.

Revelation 22:8-9 (KJV)

And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

So the reason Jesus was worshipped was because He was God as only God deserved such worship of men and the angels.

It's only Satanists and Antichrists that could assume such a ridiculous thing even in the face of glaring evidence to the contrary, because they have no regard for His Person, hence are inclined to blaspheming His name and denigrating His Person at all cost and at every opportunity.

Beware of such ones!

God bless.

malvisguy212:
as usual , answering question with question .

johnw47:
[s]know nothing false jw janosky

forever laughing like a fool at yourself being wrong:
Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:
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john 17:5 Now, Father, bring me into the glory we shared before the world began.

Jesus Christ would have received back His glory that He had with His Father
forty days after his body was resurrected, after He ascended to Heaven and with His Father,

Act 1:11  Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

did the apostles see Jesus in the Glory that He had with His Father
glory that you couldn't look upon and live
the same glory as His Father has, foool


[s]fraud janosky, you don't just lie in instalments, you never stop lying
it's something all you false jw's have in common

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.[/s]

Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world."

John 17:24, In what realm was Jesus given the Father's glory before the creation of the world?

John 17:24, in what realm will the disciples "be with me (Jesus) where I am "?

Trinity sold your thinking cap
John W FRAUD

livingchrist:
I will mention any church I feel like, you got it, if you dont like it hit the road.

jesusjnr2020:
Even the demons are not that blind and foolish to think that angel Michael is Jesus, so keep quoting scriptures falsely as your master the devil does. You are one!

John 8:44 (KJV)

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

LYING dullard

Genesis 3:15, who is the seed of the woman to crush the serpent ?
Revelation 12:7-9 Who is the serpent?
Revelation 12:7-9, 1 John 3:8, who crush the serpent?
The Bros Jnr says demons and their Oga, Devil no know who will crush them in battle

Revelation 12:7-9 and 1 John 3:8, John the apostle says this Bros Jnr can LIE LIE .

jesusjnr2020:
I answered your simple question without any fuss, so you should first answer mine before asking another.

Except you want to further confirm my thoughts that you're Antichrists.

What's it in the simple question that all you Jehovah Witnesses were so afraid of anyway that you keep dodging it?

Your have shortchanged your straw man cherry picking on Acts 1:8.

John 20:21... The Father has sent me, I also am sending you".

You MUST witness for the Father and also witness for Jesus.
The LYING dullard no see John 20:21, John 14:1 and John 17:3 for him Bible.


You no perfect,we can see you know more than Jesus Christ wey perfect

jesusjnr2020:
Satanists and Antichrists have something is common! They are both enemies of Christ and blaspheme His Person.

jesusjnr2020:
Continue proving me right that you're Antichrists! Enemies and haters of Jesus! Blasphemers! All of you Jehovah Witnesses are going to hell where your master the devil lives. That's why you don't keep the instructions of Jesus and find it hard to say you're His witnesses, because you have no regard for Him.

Keep quoting the scriptures with misinterpretations just as your master the devil does and had taught you to do. No surprises there!

Every 3 dogheads worshippers done jakpa.
The LYING jnr dullard done jakpa like Usain Bolt.
That's his only solace.

JackBizzle:
5) Why is your church the "only" church? Do you realize that the bible you are using came as a result of the work of another church- the catholic church?

6) Where in the bible does it say that one should not be involved in government? Didn't Jesus agree on taxes? Were there not Kings that were men of God in the bible?
Guy, you are doing a good deed if you can save anyone from the JW cult

JackBizzle:
This is one of the more "cultish" churches among other churches.

Every time I meet a member of the church, I am always disappointed. Always.


The one that even irritates me is that they are here on nairaland thinking that they can argue for their church. These people are so brainwashed that they even think that they have the moral ground to criticise other churches.


PLEASE, ANY TIME A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS IS TALKING ABOUT HIS//HER CHURCH'S DOCTRINES, SHUT THEM DOWN WITH THESE QUESTIONS.

1) Would you let me die if I needed blood transfusion and you had the only bag of blood in the area with you?

2) How do you explain the NUMEROUS failed prophecies that have been made by your church leaders? A few failures is not too bad but a catalogue of failed prophecies? Jesus, you guys are frauds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses#Failed_predictions

3) Why do you ostracize non-members and apostates? Is that not cultish behaviour? Do you know who hates apostates as well? ISIS, radical muslims, North Korean communists and other cults!

4) Why have your doctrines consistently changed? Not once, not twice but many many times! Your definition of "endtimes" have changed over the years, your teaching about Jews/heaven have changed etc

5) Why is your church the "only" church? Do you realize that the bible you are using came as a result of the work of another church- the catholic church?

6) Where in the bible does it say that one should not be involved in government? Didn't Jesus agree on taxes? Were there not Kings that were men of God in the bible?

Do patients not take multiple pints of blood & still die ?

What if I had only one blood bag discovered to tainted with ebola and HIV ?
Does God not know that obedience would cost Jesus Christ his life?
Did Abraham not know that his obedience could cost the life of Isaac?
Fairweather Churchianity everywhere

4.
The Israelites performed animal sacrifices, Bros, why are you not doing the same?
1 Corinthians13:9-12, why did you not stop learning at primary school
Why do your age keep changing every year?
1 Samuel 16:6-7, would the Prophet stick to his prophecy ?
How many times did Jesus Christ keep teaching the disciples about the same topic?
Matthew 24:1-3, Luke 19:11, Luke 24:21,25-27,44-45. Acts 1:6-7. John 16:16-18

livingchrist:
You see why you should face the topic next time?
Can breath of life die? If soul is breath of life can it die?
Back to the topic you are trying to gas light,
According to Jehovah witness organisation Jesus soulish life was never restored, instead his angelic life was restored directly opposing what Jesus said.
Now between Jesus and watch tower who is correct?

4 I brought glory to you here on earth by completing the work you gave me to do.
5 Now, Father, bring me into the glory we shared before the world began.
24.".. the glory you have given me before the creation of the world".

Bros, Jesus Christ says you are LYING in installments

livingchrist:
You see why you should face the topic next time?
Can breath of life die? If soul is breath of life can it die?
Back to the topic you are trying to gas light,
According to Jehovah witness organisation Jesus soulish life was never restored, instead his angelic life was restored directly opposing what Jesus said.
Now between Jesus and watch tower who is correct?

4 I brought glory to you here on earth by completing the work you gave me to do.
5 Now, Father, bring me into the glory we shared before the world began.
24.".. the glory you have given me before the creation of the world".

Bros, Jesus Christ says you are LYING in installments

jesusjnr2020:
There are those who are more informed about their Antichrist practices than I am. It's of recent I got to know that they also preach that Jesus is angel Michael, and I didn't believe my ears until it was confirmed to my shock. Yet they claim to be true Christians. What an irony!

True Christians indeed who have no regard for Christ.

You call yourself jesusjnr2020, whereas imperfect as you are, you publicly reject the words of perfect Master Jesus and reject the authority of the holy scriptures.
Simple question: is Jesus Christ archangel Michael, the leader of angels?
kindergarten pupils knows the answer more than you forming you know Jesus

jesusjnr2020:
Cultists were searching for an edition of the organization's publications to get the history of their cult?

Enlightened individuals (Illuminati)?

Read between the lines folks.

Satanists and antichrists have something in common.