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MightySparrow:
They think they know the Bible but choose which laws to obey. For instance, somebody claims to be call of God because they have shut your own ears from hearing, they are claiming nobody can hear God.

Just like someone who doesn't connect to national grid and complaining that there's nothing like power supplier nor electricity.

My own God relates with me. He talks and I hear. Their own became dumb or they became deaf both they and their monotheistic demon are both deaf and dumb.

Father is alive.
Jesus is alive
The Holy Spirit is alive.
Hallelujah.

Is Hebrews 1:2 & 2 Timothy 3:16 in your Bible?
Do I have to remind you that your 3 deities did not author your Bible?

Which of your 3 deities are you hearing from?

Sparrow DECEIVING HIMSELF.

Emusan:
If Trinitarians added Holy Spirit then answer this simple question.

Was Holy Spirit created?



Good! Which means The Holy Spirit is a person.



I see how you waved away my point in that John 16:13



Olodo JaNosense.

Holy Spirit will 'HEAR' and then 'SPEAK'

Only Satan can twist scripture like you people do.



Oponu...

What is the meaning of SPIRIT?

Is God not (a) SPIRIT?



How many times will I knock this into your empty skull head JaNosense?

Nobody claimed the desciples are perfect but God still used them to teach and write His perfect words.

So do you agree that Watchtower also teaches false doctrines?



What is the meaning of SPIRIT?

This is how you'll know that you're very dull.

Lying liar JWs hallgoer miscreant

Emusan MUMU WAILER
God is a Spirit, the Supreme Being.

God has eyes,hands,ears, mouth etc.

Jesus Christ taught you that holy spirit is God's finger.

Is God's finger a being?
NEVER!!!
Isaiah 61:1 is instructive.

@ John chapters 14 & 16 Paracletos is NOT a being.
In German language, Pencil is a feminine pronoun, the same manner that Paracletos is a masculine pronoun.
In German,a pencil is referenced as "she", just as Paracletos is referenced as "he",in John's gospel.

Bibletools.org is your fellow Trinitarian.
Read their Paracletos screenshot PROVEN evidence & receive SENSE.

MightySparrow:
The way you are convinced about your calling is the same others are! You want to say whoever your GB does not approve is not working for God.

That is a lie. Ayo Babalola while working on his heavy duty machine was called of God. The testimony is speaking today. Reverend Josiah Olufemi Akindayomi, of RCCG, a stack illiterate herbalist was called of God, the evidence is there. Maria Woodworth -Ether, Dorothy Trudell, Florence Crawford, John G. Lake, A A Allen, Smith Wigglesworth and so on had real encounters with God. Some similar to Paul's. Of all, only Charles Taze Russell case is odd. The result are you like off leg calipers.


If a phenomenon is a global one and different from normal act of God with gross uncertainties. How do claim that it is from God?

New lights trail your uncertainties, but these are as sure as Paul or Peter or Moses etc?

My question has ever been ' who makes you an umpire over God's house?'

Are just as the the children of bond woman persecuting the freeborn?

This is why I always say you are living in delusion.

3 deities devotees & Worshippers called by their 3 deities.

Olufemi Akindayomi handed over jazz of office to his successor, nah which one Jesus give Peter the apostle?
Nah which jazz of Office Paul give Timothy his mentee?

Continue DECEIVING YOURSELF with your fellow devotees.

MightySparrow:
Show any early Greek version with your lie.

Theos @ Matthew 27:46, Jesus Christ is referring to the God his Father.

Theos ( a god) John the apostle @ John 10:33 says Jesus Christ is a god. (Screenshot PROVEN evidences)
Your TRINITARIAN mentors DUBIOUSLY CHANGE am to capital G'. .
John 10:33 correct rendition 'a god', proof that @ John 1:1, Logos was a god.

Acts 28:6, says Paul is Theos (a god).

MightySparrow:
Isa.48.16 - Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

MightySparrow:
That guy sabi yearn okpata .
Who cares about his deluded GB?
I told times without number that I am a trinitarian. I don't have anything to do with delusion. By the next generation, half or more of what they believe now would be gone because of latest lights.
I don't believe in an amoebic GB. I don't believe in their holy spirit.
I don't believe in their interpretation of the Bible. I don't believe in their paradise..
I don't believe in what they believe.
I don't believe in MaximumSide and whatever he represents.
I don't believe in his 'pure I'm
I don't believe in 1914 and whatever it represents.
I don't believe in all their beliefs


I don't believe in delusion .

I only laugh at them in JW's paradise language.

achorladey:
It is deliberate attempt to lie and manipulate the scriptures. It has nothing to do with poor understanding.

Sand2022:
These things are not flip flop. God help me. Where went your brain?

flip-flop | meaning of flip-flop - Longman Dictionary
www.ldoceonline.com › dictionary › flip...
flip-flop meaning, definition, what is flip-flop: to change your opinion about something.
Flip–flop Definition & Meaning | Britannica Dictionary
www.britannica.com › dictionary › flip–f...
FLIP–FLOP meaning: 1 : a type of loose rubber sandal; 2 : a sudden change of opinion


Oga, @ 1 Corinthians 15:12, did the disciples in Corinth CHANGE their belief, OPINION about Jesus resurrection?

Luke 24:25,45 , would Jesus say the disciples FOOLISH if they believe EVERYTHING Jesus taught them?

Oga,why are you DECEIVING YOURSELF?

Emusan:
When it comes to the Holy Spirit, just show them John 16:13 from their own translation which state "However, when that one* comes, the spirit of the truth,+ he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come.+"

1. Holy Spirit is called 'HE'

2. Note @underlined "But what He HEARS He will SPEAK" which means Holy Spirit is a person you can talk to and He will talk to you back. (I remember showing this verse to one JW man he has to come back following week with elder to do manipulation as he didn't know such verse exists and was shocked that something like this was said about Holy Spirit).

3. At the end of the verse there is a plus(+) sign which is a reference to another verse, Acts 21:10, 11 "But after we had stayed there for quite a number of days, a prophet named Agʹa·busa came down from Ju·deʹa. 11 And he came to us and took Paul’s belt and tied his own feet and hands and said: “Thus says the holy spirit, ‘The man to whom this belt belongs will be bound like this by the Jews in Jerusalem,b and they will give him into the hands of people of the nations.’”c

Which is the evidence that Holy Spirit actually speak to people.

Your TRINITARIAN mentors ADDED your third deity into personhood during the 4th century.

John chapters 14 & 16, Jesus referred to holy spirit as Advocate (Greek Paracletos), this is a masculine noun in Greek, Paracletos is a he.
Holy spirit is a IT (neuter gender in Greek), for this reason ,Romans 8:16,26 your TRINITARIAN mentors confirmed that..
Screenshot evidence as examples.
(1). "Opaleye told the newspaper", is the newspaper a person?
No.
(2). "The Parliament Report said", is that Report a person?

Jesus breathed holy spirit upon the disciples.
Jesus did not breath another being into the disciples.

Their having holy spirit did not make them perfect.
Was another living being inside the disciples?
No !!

Emusan:
In fact, I've used the same John 1 against their doctrine of Jesus was created.

Reading John 1:3 from their own NWT shows Jesus can't be created "All things came into existence through him,+ and apart from him NOT EVEN ONE THING came into existence. John 1:3 - NWT

1. All things came into existence through Christ. ( they couldn't smuggle in the word 'OTHER' here as they did with Col 1:16-18)

2. Focus on the CAPITALISED words "NOT EVEN ONE THING." So, how can a person with brain read something like this and still believe that the person talking about here is Created?

Colossians 1:15 Jesus Christ the first born of every creature" KJV.

Revelation 3:14 Jesus Christ the beginning of the creation by God."

Romans 11:35-36 Jesus Christ came through whom? Emusan came through whom?

Emusan LIAR,Continue WAILING

achorladey:
That Janosky needs to get away from that religious organization and stop peddling mumu and no get sense over scriptures to support lies and manipulations that even his GODS will be ashamed of


From their own Bible study notes.....

if you hold firmly to the good news: The resurrection, part of “the primary doctrine” of Christianity, was under attack in Corinth. (Heb 6:1, 2) Some were arguing that “there is no resurrection of the dead.” (1Co 15:12) Paul drew attention to those who said: “Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we are to die.” (1Co 15:32) He may have been quoting Isa 22:13, but those words well reflected the thinking of people influenced by such Greek philosophers as Epicurus, who denied that there was life after death. (Ac 17:32; see study note on 1Co 15:32.) Or some in the congregation who were of Jewish background may have been influenced by the beliefs of the Sadducees, who denied the resurrection. (Mr 12:18) Another possibility is that some felt that living Christians had already experienced some kind of spiritual resurrection. (2Ti 2:16-18) If the Corinthians failed to “hold firmly to the good news,” they would become believers for nothing​—their hope would not be fulfilled.​—See study note on 1Co 15:12.


Emusan said......



Janosky aka JaNosense says....



No wonder Janosky is called JaNosense your 9 GODS of men confirms that you are lying and manipulating their bible

These FAITHLESS miscreants behaving as if 1 Corinthians 15:12-13 is not in their Bibles.

If Jesus Christ did not resurrect would the dead resurrect?

Paul the apostle PROVEN that Jesus resurrection is the foundation of the belief in the resurrection of the dead.

These same FAITHLESS miscreants don't believe Jesus resurrected sef!

achorladey:
See the extent this one will go to lie and manipulate the Bible to peddle his mumu and no get sense peddling that the apostles are teaching lies

That guy brains dey filled with mumu and no get sense peddling. Jumped from Luke to 1 Corinthians

Achorladey FAITHLESS miscreant WAILING.

Sand2022:
I repeat:

However, you agree they didn't flip flop under the spirit leading. Agree?
It's not just application, if God doesn't tell you anything supernatural, and plainly, you are likely to reach wrong conclusions. However, when you have reach that wrong conclusions, it is not the holy spirit that led you to it. Your intellect led you there. Do we agree?

Do you agree that the disciples were inspired & wrote the inspired holy scriptures?

Did holy spirit REMOVE the disciples imperfect knowledge & understanding?

Oga,You are fixated on perfection.

Sand2022:
Very poor in understanding.

MightySparrow:
Their corrupt bible is the most unrealistic edition. If you read through the Gospel of John, the Bible support multiple God than denying it.
For instance, ( John 1:1) there's God and a god (a god not found in any Greek writs).
However, the verse points to two God's: small and big.

MUMU Sparrow WAILING
Theos definition (God/a god) in that Bible you REFUSED TO STUDY

achorladey:
Even Acts 26:8 no support that fraud

MightySparrow:
Beginning of controversy.
Controversial fifu with clumsy minds.

Emusan:
That's why I do say you people lies so easily and reason why you always avoid quoting the scripture rather than citing it.

Here is 1 Corin 15:12 "But tell me this— since we preach that Christ rose from the dead, why are some of you saying there will be no resurrection of the dead?

It's evident that teaching of Christ resurrection isn't the main issue here but resurrection of the DEAD.

Compare to your initial point "The same disciples Jesus opened their minds to understand the holy scriptures, still did not believe in Jesus resurrection @ 1 Corinthians 15:12."

Lying liar hallgoer miscreant

Emusan:
They didn't!

This is Gal 2:11-14 and point out the WRONG TEACHING they RECEIVED FROM CHRIST AND THEY WERE TEACHING PEOPLE.

"11 But when Peter came to Antioch, I had to oppose him to his face, for what he did was very wrong. 12 When he first arrived, he ate with the Gentile believers, who were not circumcised. But afterward, when some friends of James came, Peter wouldn’t eat with the Gentiles anymore. He was afraid of criticism from these people who insisted on the necessity of circumcision.[b] 13 As a result, other Jewish believers followed Peter’s hypocrisy, and even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy.

14 When I saw that they were not following the truth of the gospel message, I said to Peter in front of all the others, “Since you, a Jew by birth, have discarded the Jewish laws and are living like a Gentile, why are you now trying to make these Gentiles follow the Jewish traditions?[/b]

Now answer my question!

@ Galatians 2:13-14
The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray.
14 When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel."

Emusan LIAR

Emusan:
That's how you'll know you people can manipulate anything. Well I know it's just to defend those gods in Warwick

The content of 1 Corin 15:12 is "they don't believe in THE RESURRECTION OF The Dead" not that of "resurrection of Jesus Christ." According to your @color above

Empty skull JaNosense .

Emusan LYING coconut head,@ 1 Corinthians 15:12 was Jesus Christ raised from the dead?

Emusan too EMPTY

Emusan:
So do you agree that Watchtower teaches wrong doctrines?

Sand2022:
How does that John 16:16-18 sound like a flipflop to you?

Is this what you guys can produce? Shmh

MightySparrow:
I Corinthians 15:12 But if Christ is preached as raised from the dead, how can some among you say there is no resurrection of the dead?
You are son of your father, Tony Morris, you too don shack?
How is this related to the topic?

MightySparrow:
They are right.
One of their GB , Anthony Morris, whenever he has boozed the 'spirit' his head will be misfiring wrong scriptural combinations.

Sand2022:
Powerful point

I might also add, Irenaeous whom they doubt is a true disciple got the correct understanding, but they came along and kept flip flopping over just that simple truth. What is sad is that they still view themselves as the only true religion with all these flipflops.

Oga, REMOVE the disciples flip flops from 1 Corinthians 15:12 & have peace.

Sand2022:
If your point is based on the aspect you bolded, that's the verse I mean.

Rev 17
18 And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”

There "means" didnt make the JWs to believe that "the great city" stands for Babylon the Great.

Sand2022:
Fine point. Thank you for bringing another reason why your church interpretation of that woman is wrong. Kudos.

But perhaps you didn't even understand my point.

cornelboy:
The challenge that we won't mention eachother for a whole year?

cornelboy:
Any time I need to laugh, I come to Nairaland to read your comments. You're unreasonably hilarious 😂😂

Nah so!
That achorladey guy keeps WAILING like a broken record playing on turn table.

AnAbnormalHuman:
I don't want to prove you wrong.
I just want to end this (literally, here's my last reply on this).

I'm glad you accepted all the charges I filed against you.
Now,
1. The Bible was written by Jehovah's witnesses, not an organization called "Jehovah's Witnesses" .
2. Calling yourselves Jehovah's Witnesses doesn't make you a witness of Jehovah.
If it is by words and naming names, then I'm the President's Uncle.
3. My religion remains Christianity and yes, I practice and try to be like Christ...
I dunno who re-categorized religion into Jehovah's Witnesses and Winners Chapelists and Mountain Of Fire-lites and every other thing you consider as a religion.

By the way, face it, the only thing that's making you consistent in your organization is that zeal that you inherited from your Islamic days.
Nothing too special about the organization, I've seen y'all, especially janosky insulting people so openly, unlike Jesus (Jesus said that whoever calls his brother a fool is in danger of hell)
I've seen a JW outside this forum have a boyfriend.
I've seen JWs (top leaders) sexu@lly harassing fellow members and the other leaders cover up the case, up to the point of lying in court.

So yh, there's nothing special about you obeying your organization's orders.
It's brand loyalty — just as you were loyal to Allah for a while.

I know, maybe I've slightly triggered you and you'll probably respond with some prideful statement that bypasses the points I've made.

So here's my main point.
I was just replying sandman2022, I didn't ask to learn any extra stuff about y'all. So you shouldn't have mentioned me unnecessarily (and marketed your organization to me).

Emusan:
Whenever you see them using question to answer questions, note that it's choke already

Simple question, do you agree that Watchtower made false predictions and they'll still make false predictions since they are not perfect?

Emusan:
Where was it stated in the scripture is my question?

Why using question to answer question?

So where was it stated in the scripture that it's a sin?

Emusan:
Where was it stated in the scripture is my question?

Why using question to answer question?

So where was it stated in the scripture that it's a sin?