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Thewhizzkid1:
Pls can u recommend any other anatomy video lecture apart from acland?

chaurasia

duduade:
how much did you pay..?

for?

Adebolade:
Now 'm scared I just got admission to study dentistry but seems it is really interwoven I really have to tighten my belt.....

welcome on board, dont be scared, instead b prepared. Lord is your strength.

ojingbe:
Mr Jango I get issues with anatomy which textbook do you prescribe.

I tink u shld luk 4 ur strengths and apply it to mk ur choice.

Chaurasia - preferable for students requirin anatomy to b digested to bits b4 absorption. Simpler terms and easily remembered diagrams.

Last - Gud for students who already have an idea on anatomy. It doznt explain and uses lots of unexplaineed anatomical terms. Poor diagrams. Valuable during MB preparations.

Keith Moore - voluminous but gud for students dat can absorb easily. Lots of clinicals. Gud for crammers too. My choice too.

Never used Gray and Snells so I cant gv tips on them.

Disclaimer: this is based on my personal observation and thus opinion.

U can allso get Arcland videos, they tend to mk anatomy stick, itss amazing.

dharmmy007:
You are surely going to perform better than the previous by God's grace

amen; tnx bro

Henshaw199:
it seem obvious to me now that most medical student dnt even knw the meaning of medicine. Medicine include anatomy ,physio,dentistry,medical lab etc. Is jst that this various discipline of medicine become advance and with time also have speciaty. So it is due to the advancement. Not that they are not medical discipline . Pls halt the blunder.

let sleeping dogs lie.

angiography:
Whao...such a distance between ur score and the others



Keep it up bro...m sure u ain't resting on ur oars

Not a chance bro; tnx for the compliment

Hopin u guys still remember my 3rd incourse in ur prayers *shines teeth* its next week. After it, will make it up to u guys by postin alot. Bless

Demmieviere:
Mr. Jargo, Please Clear Me Some Things.. Do You Go For Holidays? If Yes, Do You Read At Home During D Holidays 'nd Hw Do You Manage Ur Time?.... Secondly, Would You Support Or Oppose This: A Medical Student Should Stay Off Campus(hostel) Or Vice Versal.

Yes I go for holidays, altho technically there are no holidays in med school. When other paramedics are given weeks or months for vacation, med students are mainly given a week. And about me reading at home? Yes I do. Nd I tink I read more durin d holidays as there are no lectures to distract.

As for the hostel issue; I tink it depends on the individual and to some extent the school. Some students find it hard readin with disturbances and dere will b lots in d hostel. Readin too may b affected as roomates may not b supportive of d light bein on durin night study.
Where the school comes in is, for schools wit hostel subjected to med students exclusively, stayin in d hostel will b more tolerable.

There is no hard and ffast rule, stayin in campus has it pros and cons. For example, stayin in the hostels makes it easier to participate in group studies, get to class earlier, get informations easily etc...

dharmmy007:
What uni. r u?

OOU

smartdave1:
I thought getting 50+ in all subjects is the only requisite of crossing to preclinicals. What other factor/s does LASU need?

things might have changed, but what LASU av always used is crossing the top 50 (culd b more now) to the clinicals. My set was worse cos med students were like 100+ cos it comprised of 2 matric sets.

larhnrey:
hope its allow to write jamb and lasu putme as a lasu studnt?

yes you can, altho its against NUC's rule, its not Lasu's priority.

labodinho:
Following a while but not been able to read until 2dy.

Now following effectively.
Hope u wouldn't mind telling me how u got ur user name "jargo".

Best of luck in ur 3rd incourse.

JARGO...Lmao.. got it during my Lasu microbiology days. I got a fungal infection on my face in lab thru my pimples that threatened to ruin my fyn boy.

My face was so rough twas compared to Jesse jagz (the rapper). Nd he was famously knw too as Jargo coined from Jaga jaga.

Nd d name bcame mine too since then.

smartdave1:
Thank you doc!

LASU chemistry dept here i come.

good, I have fond (or less so then) memories of that dept. Organic chemistry wasnt a joke....lol.

Atogirl:
Please before you give someone an advice ,make research also.I am not being rude here.Some people who wanted to study medicine believe they can cross,I am not saying its impossible,but its very hard.
In unlorin it is a norm to cross but in Lasu,I've not heard of it(crossing to medicine).
That is the reason why I am saying writing jamb again is the best option
Larhnrey another advice I have is for you to focus on microbiology,and target a gp of nothing less than 4.5 and if you are not able to cross,you can still graduate with a first class and enter by direct entry into medicine.
Thank you.

all she said is notin but the truth. Even a lot of med students will b dropped after 100L, less dose that aare lukin for transfers. LASU's medicine is very competitive because most lagosians opt to study in lasu, thus d pool is large. Even crossin from 100L to preclinicals is by quota system (lets say 50 students in all admitted) compared to most schools where all u need to do is pass all ur courses above 50 marks.

smartdave1:
Thanks for the quick respond.

Do you think LASU will hinder me from writing their (abi 'her', lol) post UTME while i do my chemistry?

no they wont.

larhnrey:
microbiology to medicine

no it is not, dont waste ur tym on it. LASU's medicine is not usually opened for intra-transfer even if u av 5.0...how do I knw? I am a graduate of Microbiology, LASU, currently studyin medicine. My advice is finish d MCB and go for DE medicine. Hope av hellped a lil?

ojingbe:
you can start reading from d beginning of d page then you know I didn't start this.

no problem, but dont take the bait, always appreciate what u got. Dont compare, we are brothers. By God's grace, We will all make it.

ojingbe:
lol really. I should ask you to check your google again so you can confirm. An average dentist earn more than d prime minister of the uk. Dentist tops the highest earnings in the US. Google it yourself. You think say nah beans to send person go dental school. D money used to train a dentist will send 10 phyisicians to medical school.

That right there is pure false information. Why cant you just appreciate your course without trying to compare wit MBBS? Just speaks volume on your inferiority complex.

Average salaries of jobs in the US from a reputable website:
Dentist --------->$230,000
Internal medicine physicians---->$250,000
General practice physicians----->$216,000

Average tuition fees in the US
Dentistry--------->$18,000
Medicine---------->$13,000

Thats def not ten-fold. Dont spread wrong infos

yungest:
plz bruh..I would love 2knw which physiology textbook is beta btw guyton n hills physiology or essential medical physiology

Both are very effective bt d major factor is finding out which is the school lects' favorite.

Generally, essential physio is easier to understand and more reader friendly. Also superb for prep 4 essays. Disadv is dere are more mistakes, its more suitable for Indian schools as sum practicals are Indian-oriented. Also its values are berated by most lects.

Guyton is voluminous bt superb for knowledge nd MCQs. Its values are highly regarded. It has less misstakes too.

Main factor in choosin tho shld b ur lects' prefence.

Sorry may not be able to post for a while, 3rd incourse loading badly...Need prayers from y'all too.

Will drop a pix showin how results luk like in med school...its for the 2nd physiology incourse. Yours faithfully is the last on the list...

Thewhizzkid1:
Let's call a spade a spade. Don't judge matters based based on what you've passed through hence trying to attach any possible advantage. Be sincere, knowing fully well that a first degree prepares you for the mental rigours of med school, if u were to have your life rewound to the period u were to take jamb and you had two open choices to choose medicine or biochemistry(or anatomy, physiology, mcb) with the intent of going through DE to medicine, which will you choose?
To me, those who are ready and willing to be doctors will always be doctors. It does not matter the route you pass through.

It is ironic that you make you are making your jjudgement based on your experience and requiring me not to. As for me attaching more importance to admission through D.E., u cant be more wrong; I am not in charge of education in this country, thus am very sure my opinion doesnt count.

For the question u asked if I culd rewind bck my life and choosee my jamb again, I dont think thats neccesary cos I do rememba I chosed medicine then, and got admitted (I will leave u to guess what appund)

Am I more mature to handle med school? Yes. Am I sayin everybody shld take the same route? No, not even if I have d power to. Am I saying D.E. students are better than regular students? No.

All I am sayin, which am sure u got wrong, is havin a degree before (either by choice or not) makes u adapt quickly to med skul and its wahala.
If u are asked to pass thru a secondary school again, m sure u will find it easier than ur first try, doesnt mean u will get all A's in WAEC (perfect analogy)

Best we buried this D.E. or not ish. Its getting tedious

lomaxx:
The average time to finish medical school in Nigeria from year 1 is 7 years. (ASUU, NMA, ARD, JOHESU strike inclusive)

Housemanship is compulsory to be eligible for the MBBS degree. In other words, you cannot have MBBS without housemanship. Totals - 8 it 9 years, depending on how fast you get a place to do housemanship.



You will go for youth service to be eligible for permanent registration.

Total - 9 or 10 years.


Let's now add 5 years (ASUU strike inclusive)of undergraduate education in Anatomy/Biochemistry/Physiology/Microbiology etc


We're not ready for such policies.

I for don finish school since May, now it's next year. Because we don't have an educational system that works. It doesn't breed maturity. You'll end up having frustrated doctors that have been wearied by unecessary length of training.

I am sure u are gettin something wrong. But I am sure if such policies will b adopted, no med student will need to spend a year in d faculty of science learnin wat's been learned during the first degree. Also the number of years spent durin preclinicals will be reduced. Thus we lukin @ 4 years of studyin med. M sure graduates being frustrated due to bein weary shldnt be an issue.

Vcojuro:
That is a great observation Dr Lomax.
Seriously you are an emblem of creative thinking and I want other people to emulate you in such a way but all of us can't think in the same manner.
Imagine you spending 6years in mbbs together with assu strike, nma, johesu, resident doctors, internal strike, housemanship that is no longer certain coupled with nysc.
One would have wasted a lot of years doing mbbs.
I don't see any difference between Nigeria mbbs and US MD. I have gone through their curriculum everything is almost these same just that they are more clinically exposed than us.
Our method of admission into mbbs follows the United Kingdom pattern.
And until the UK authority says otherwise then why should we complain.
Where I was expecting complaint was the issue of funding and the facilities in our teaching hospital.
To me as regard the issue of maturity of med students and ability of med students of nowadays to cope academically.
I still believe that the very issue tunnels down to our admission process.
I believe if we admit virtually all med students on merit.
When I mean merit I mean those who are academically found worthy, thoswho can take sleepless nights reading, lots of materials without complaining then I believe we will have a very competent, sound and mature med student who will pass through med school without repeating any level.
You see one of the solution to the problem in our med school is the merit system put it in place and other things will follow.
Like the Yoruba says "what you are looking for in Sokoto town lies in your Sokoto(pocket)"
That's my opinion.

There's a lot wrong wit ur mail. But u got me lost when u said we shldnt change until the UK authority says so? Really? Does that sound right? M sure u blive we shldnt av changed our driving and monetary system. Owwwwh, and also u must blive we need to go back to the parliamentary system of govt. Bro, u might need to be reminded Nigeria got independent 1960, d UK authority dont control us.

lomaxx:
You're biased in my opinion. I've noticed that utme candidates have a smoother medical school journey than those that have had a first degree. It doesn't mean they are immune from issues. First degree students usually feel they've seen it all. Believe me, that mentality is counterproductive. it's the same mentality repeat students have when repeating a class- seeing it all. And that's why they keep having issues.

Medical school training is enough to instill the foundation of maturity. It's not just about passing exams. Those that know, know.

Happy Sunday

Well I respect ur opinion; but I am not trying to create a first degree versus utme entry students. All I am saying is first degree students have a better advantage of handling medical school's pressure.

Nd for d saying of urs that utme students have a smoother journey in med school; I am sure u wont be suprised it I tell u that is very debatable (would love to be proved wrong).

Also, for the seen it all mentality, I can assured u [using myself as a case example (a small sample size, I know)], I was overawed after admission. So even if the seen it all mentality was dere b4 admission, it def didnt last long.

To cap it all, m not an advocate of any admission type. I just feel having a degree prepares u for d MENTAL rigours of med skul.

*sorry for the brackets in brackets .

WEDNESDAY

9am - 12am PHYSIOLOGY LECTURE

I must av said a lot abt Phyiology but I tink its worth it cos u may find it hard to be a gud doctor if ur Physiology was shaky.

Physiology lecturers to me are more likeable (might be biased) and dey tend to care abt u lykin d course. Anatomy no send u.
So lectures are more interesting and student-friendly (if deres anyytiin lyk dat).

12am - 3pm PHYSIOLOGY PRACTICAL

Physiology practical is more interesting and it has a plus of u not going home with ur lab coat smelling lyk Alani Eleran the butcher (No offence to Alani's in the house) after gross dissection. Nor will u go ohm scared of eating meat when u rememba the meat in ur soup luks lyk gluteus maximus (muscle of buttocks) u were cuttin in gross lab.

Physiology practical is more interesting..and experiments are more clinically oriented. they include:

*Determinin PCV and interpreting implication of result
*Determinin Blood group of a patient
*Determinin White blood cell count and using it as a guide to determine infection.
*Urinalysis and Renal Dialysis
*Carrying out an ECG (electrocardiography)
*Using spirometry to determine respiratory diseases;
Etc...

3pm - 11pm
Home sweet home, eat sweet eat, read sweet read, sleep sweet sleep.

Catalyst4real:
Lol, thank God am already in ooo
That policy doesn't make sense

Not to belittle ur opinion, buh I tink it does mk sense. Having an experience b4 med school can only but be of help. Most pple go into med school, not avin an idea how to survive in a univeristy, lest a medical skul. This policy is used in the US and its allowing them produce more mature med practitioners. I might be biased tho (I passed through that route) but it has only been beneficial. Thank u

taiocol:
Saw this on Facebook

it has been brewing for some yearss now...

wumzi:
Hi all, I'm a medical student based in the UK and I was wondering what medical school is like in naij. I know it may differ slightly from university to university, but what is the general structure?
How many years is the course?
What are the major exams for each year?
How soon do you start learning in the hospitals rather than in lectures?
What kind of exrta-curricular activities are available for students to participate in?

I'd really appreciate your opinions and experiences.

hey, well med school here is mainly fashioned lyk in the UK. The duration is averagely 6 years.

First year is in the Faculty of Science where basic science courses such as Biology, Physics and Chemistry.

Second and 3rd year is sppent in the Faculty of Basic Medical Science where Anatomy, Physiology and biochemistry are offered.

The remaining 3 years are spent in the Teaching Hospital where more of clinicals are taught: Surgery, Pathology, Pediatric, Obs and Gyn, etc...

Usually, and it may vary wit schools, 4 important exams are wriitten and are commonly reffered to as MB exams. One at the end of preclinicals (anatomy, physio and BCH); anoda after the 4th year (pathology and pharmacology); and the last 2 after the 5thh and 6th years.

I hope thats helpful? M sure other people will hard wateva I might have left out.

LEGITLAYO:
Erm.
Guys is there any oou medical student that's not a fresher here?.
I need to connect and know one or two things.

Affirmative sire...I am one

MD is offered by allopathic schools and DO by osteopathic schools.

Millex:
Other than what you stated, the MD issued is a postgraduate degree for allopathic practice of medicine as you get in for the program after undergraduate school ie first degree. While the MBBS is an degree issued after the undergraduate study of medicine to the best of my knowledge

well, you are correct but only for countries that follow the United Kingdom's tradition of medical degree (obviously Nigeria too) but in countries that follow the US's tradition, MD and DO offered as the first degree titles for completion of undergraduate study in med skul.