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Being away from this thread for some time. I open and read almost everyday but hasn't been contributing.

Being under more and more pressure these days, always having clashing deadlines etc, but I've always been cool, even under pressure.
Read you guys discuss 13th month few pages back. Hmmmnnn, I don pocket that one, na Turkey allowance I dey expect this month .


Year-end usually tight for us accountants, as we need to prepare for the auditors. This year is not different.

It was a combination of many things, I chose to be closer to the villagers and they gave me some indigo babes who didnt speak much English so i had to learn.

2. I was always hanging out at night with some dan-iska. and we would be yabbing ourselves.

I was always had to translate whatever I was teaching my students from English to Hausa so they can understand.

I remember one day I wanted to abuse them and I said "Ba nda kwakwalwa" instead of "Ba shi ne kwakwalwa"

I also learnt some words of Tangale language and Cerwa language of Bauchi and Gombe states. Basically the ones to toast though I forgot them long ago.

Ki zo ki yi berci a daiki na, Akoi sanyin anan, Ina so bargo me jini



I learnt Hausa as a corper in 2004. And since then I havent had the opportunity to speak it. I didnt learnt formally it was basically from all the maganna banza I learnt from my student. e.g

Meyasa kanada biro a baki nka? So bo da ai kama da bura ne (Kii ga ne- Do you understand)

I never left the South West until 2004 when I went for NYSC for 1yr.

So you dont know chinbaki? you dont know rungomeni? Do you know "ina so Bargo me jini

DK, but your level of proficiency in Hausa language makes it hard to believe o.
I also stayed in Sokoto for one year 2007/2008 as a corper, mixed with them, but can't speak half of what you speak here.

I buy and read ThisDay, Punch, The Nation and Sun everyday. Weekends, I add Guardian and sometimes Tribune. I read Daily Trust online everyday.

For column-writing, The Nation's backpage columns are my favourite. For news, it's Punch. For political analysis, Thisday does it.

Being a writer on politics/economy, I can't afford not to be up to date on every issue. I also learn from the columnists.

^^^ Are you like a political analyst or something

Public affairs commentator.

I buy 4 papers everyday, and 6 in some weekends.
NL politics section is enough to keep me current, but newspapers serve purpose other than that for me.
I buy not because of the news, but because of the columnists, whose articles don't get to NL of elsewhere. I prefer reading hard copy than online editions. I also keep them for future reference, as well as the need to quote something from a past edition, in my own writing too.

All complaints noted.

Beaf, is she not a Nigerian?

I give up.

johnie:
I DEY LAFF O!

Me too dey laugh o  

Abeg who will help me translate my post in Hausa to him? who will help explain the difference between 'region' and 'tribe' to him in Hausa?
Who will help ask him in Hausa that 'was Sunday Awoniyi not a Northerner, and Chairman on AREWA consultative forum?

Why haven't you said that you are a north-centralist (of the six geo-political zones) in your definition of your person?

The common statements '19 Northern states' and '17 Southern states'  mean North and South still exist.

Now I see our arguments converging.

Both I'm not from Ilorin, I'm from Offa, which is 100% Yoruba, as is the case with all other communities in Kwara South.
Ilorin is not the only town in Kwara, although it is by far the largest and most important.

It is only Ilorin that has a debatable ethnicity, Kwara South is indisputably Yoruba. The Nupes, Barubas of Kwara North are not in any way Yoruba. The Kwara central and Ilorin is mixed, but largely Yoruba too. So I'm not sure a Nupe man(they have also produced governor - Shaaba Lafiaji 1991-1992) or a Baruba man(Bio, current sporst minister, Farooq Kperog, NVS writer are Baruba) will agree with you that Kwara is a Yoruba state. But given the fact that other tha the SW states, no state is 100% a single tribe in Nigeria, we can loosely call Kwara by the majority tribe, a Yoruba state.

I suspect if Kwarans ever have to choose one day between North and SW, they will choose the latter.

Being quite conversant with Kwara, your guess is not exactly correct.
This is the mindset:
KWARA SOUTH(purely Yoruba): Prefer SW
KWARA NORTH(Nupe, Baruba etc): Prefer NC
KWARA CENTRAL(debatable history, between Yoruba nd Fulani): Almost 50-50 preference. Some will tell you they are not Yoruba but Fulani even if his/her name is Bukola or Toyin and can't speak a single word in Hausa, not to talk of Fulbe. Some others wil tell you they are Yoruba. But politically, majority prefer North.

HopeDemocr:
Mr Moderator Sir,
Could you please review your decision to delete the answer I provided to these crucial issues in the Job section.
I was building up the discussion before releasing some little known strategies to make full time income on Facebook and Twitter.
Granted, I was quite detailed, the whole point is that HDP wants to create an enviromment where our youths and seasoned professionals can tap into the $500 Billion Outsourcing industry.
There is a lot of useful information for our people, young and old, male and female, in that post because our focus is to create 1,000,000 millionaires in 3-4 years starting NOW.
Kindly review and restore the post.
Thanks. I appreciate your understanding.
I'm yours truly.
Mr. B

I mod Politics, not Job section.

3 people will make the final poll.

I'm aware there is a part of Jebba called 'Jebba Niger' and a part called 'Jebba Kwara', but whether the 'Jebba Niger' is officialy recognized as Niger state or whether the whole of Jebba is classified as Kwara is what I don't know.

@ Ileke,
I agree we share cultural affinity with SW than North, at least those of us Yoruba, who are the majority. Many a time, I mistakenly refer to myself as being form the SW sef.
The Nupe, Baruten people however are more like Hausa/Fulani, culturally.

@ Dapobear, a few questions:
- During the northern and southern protectorate era, where was present day Kwara?
- During the regional system era, where was the present day Kwara classified?

It is when we trace back history to pre-20th century that we begin to trace the history of the Yoruba Kwara and Fulani Kwara separately.The Yoruba from Oyo, the Fulani from Sokoto, and that's very complicated. I personally hold the opinion that Ilorin is a mixture of Yoruba and Fulani, but I'm tired of debating this issue. The descendants of Alimi are Fulani, and the descendants of Afonja are Yoruba. Who, among the two, actually owns Ilorin? Both, my take. Both of them were migrants, Afonja migrating from Oyo and Alimi from Sokoto. But who rules Ilorin? The Fulani has been dominating.

The political classification began in the early 20th century. That doesn't mean we are losing our Yoruba history. Ethnicity cannot be changed. It's natural. Political classification can be changed. Today a government can come and reclassify Yoruba part of Kwara to SW and the other tribes to NC. But nobody can come and say we are no longer Yoruba or that our Nupe brothers are no longer Nupe etc.

oludashmi:
Ileke, what Jarus is saying is that kwara pple are 100% Yorubas ethnically and culturally but northerners under Nigeria's geographical classification. Just as some of ibos are not found under the SE.

Thanks for the explanation jare, but I did not say the bolded.
Kwara is not 100% Yoruba. It's multi-ethnic. We Yorubas are the majority, but we have other tribes like Batonum, Nupe, Fulani etc.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=564090.msg7293563#msg7293563 date=1291798347]So Suraj, which one are you? Yoruba or Northerner?
Which language do you speak?
A Yoruba Northerner? hmmm iyen ko possible sha.[/quote]I tire o. You still no get my lecture up there. Ani iyato wa ninu 'region' ati 'ethnicity'.
I'm a Yoruba Northerner. Plain and simple. They are not mutually exclusive.

2. how many northerners do u find in kwara (little) today compare to northerns found in lagos or abuja

3.  kwara is never a northern state ,,,,,,, i do not know were they get this arewa from in kwara but i know that they are not northerners

Kwarans are 100% Northerners, stop exposing your ignorance.
Perhaps you need a lecture on difference between region and ethnicity. Region: North, South, East, West Ethnicity: Yoruba, Hausa, Ibo etc
What is today Kwara has always been classified as North since 1914. During the provincial era pre-independence, Ilorin province(now Kwara and Kogi) was undr Northern region. During the regional system, Kwara was part of Northern region. Till today, Kwara is still North. Or can you count the 19 Northern states for me?

You are obviously mistaking Hausa/Fulani with North. Whether a place is North or South is not a natural classification like ethnicity. A mistake, so to speak, was made in 1914 and Ilorin province was classified as North, and till today, it still is. Taking it to South will involve official proclamation and boundary adjustment.

Being a northerner doesn't mean you're Hausa/Fulani. You can be a Yoruba and a Northerner in as much as you come from a state classified as North. Kwara and Kogi are such. Late Chief Sunday Awoniyi, a Yoruba man from Kogi, was a dyed-in-the-wood Sardauna loyalist and later Chairman of Arewa Consultative forum. Can a non-Arewa person be the Chairman of Arewa Forum if he is not from Arewa?

I am from Kwara, a Yoruba, and officially a Northerner, because that is what my state has been classified as since 1914.
Kajiko?

This is no bombshell.

dayokanu:
Katsumoto

Ibime

Are we going to have nominations in the child boards also? Cos bkbabe, Ezeuche, Metal gong, Meksxx suppose fit somewhere

Hey, that jungle. Would have loved to do that too, but none of the kings of the jungle will pass the 'no-ban' rule.

Locked. Continue here: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-525669.0.html

My knowledge of Bawomolo dated back 2008. Being an active participant in Politics section and a frequent watcher of proceedings in the Religion section, I can't but know Bawomolo. One thing about him is that he was one of teh most ubiquitous and versatile Nairalanders -  I mean Nairalanders you will find in almost every section, having something to say about almost everything. At the last year sectional awards, I was nominated with him and three others as the Career Section Poster of the Year, an award neither of us, but Ajanlekoko, later clinched: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-368641.0.html

When I read the news in Thisday on Wednesday that a Nigerian student was shot dead in Chicago. Two things came to my mind. One, I was lamenting the crime rate in US. Two, very strangely, I was imagining the possibility of this person being a Nairalander, due simply to the fact that a sizeable number of Nigerian students in diaspora - in UK and US in particular - are on NL. But who will know if this person was a Nairalander, I concluded, perishing teh thought. All these thoughts within one minute of going through the news.

On Friday, being busy at work here, I never opened that thread on 'Nigerian Student Killed in Chicago'. But later in the evening I met within the building my senior colleague at work, also an active Nairalander, and he asked whether I had heard. 'Heard what?', I retorted, thinking it's another hot gist on scandal on Nairaland. '. . that Bawomolo was the Nigerian student shot in Chicago', he said, showing me a text he received from another Nairalander.

Distraught and benumbed, I turned back from where I was going, made back to my seat, refreshed NL and saw the saddest news I have ever seen on NL. I can't hold back the tears, with my colleagues trying to console me, trying to know who I lost. They were shocked when I told them it was one of us on NL.(who were all aware of my NL activities before). That was how my day was spoilt. I struggled to make a comment on that thread.

I have not hesitated to tell everybody that cared to listen to me about the tragedy since then. From my brothers to friends, who also saw the news in papers. Since then and till this moment, anytime I view the thread on Bawomolo on NL and Facebook, my mood dampens and fresh sadness overtakes me. I never knew we were so bonded on Nairaland. To think this was someone I -and majority of the people here - shared a very contrasting religious views with.

Other than on religious discussions, I find Bawo's analysis insightful. His brilliance was not in doubt. I never knew he was that young. By Nigerian standard, a 21 year old knowing that much is a genius. Though 7 years older, I learnt from him. He was mature, savvy and witty.

Mr Administrator and Supermoderator, I crave your indulgence to name this year's Politics Section Award 'BAWOMOLO AWARD FOR THE POLITICS SECTION POSTER OF THE YEAR'. He was no doubt one of the men that made my section interesting and lively.

Bawomolo, we at Politics section will miss you.

Continue here: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-562592.0.html

Yes, he was teh Nigerian student shot dead in Chicago on Monday evening.
Go to crime section and see the thread.

With the picture above, have you seen what he's trying to say? Or do you need google map?

His friends and family described Awomolo as a bookworm who spent most of his time on his laptop computer. On his MySpace page, Awomolo said he liked to play video games and read war stories.

doing Nairaland

Going by his maturity and what he knows, it's hard for me to believe this guy was just 21.

Still sad here, very sad. A sad news. Oh, Bawo. Still like a dream to me.

OHHHHH, LIFE, OYB JUST TOLD ME NOW. AND IT'S ALL TEARS HERE
I'M DEVASTATED


When I read the news in eth morning(or was it yesterday, something told me this person could be a Nairalander, simply due to teh fact that many Nigerian students in diaspora are on NL here


oh, Bawomolo!!!!!! I can't believe this