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mbulela:
what do you mean by that?
[b]you have always been praising and defending him.[/b]There is nothing written there that others have not said.
talk is cheap. Dele Momodu is not worth listening to.
afterall Segun Adeniyi wrote more illuminating articles.
Where is he today?

Me? Praised DM? You obviously meant another person. Or are you referring to where I asked you guys to thread softly with him, that he appears to be yielding to our criticisms? Or just because I exchanged mails with him, I have praised him? I told him to his face that I dont agree with him. What more? You want me to curse him abi? Ever read my article: Dele Momodu: Abuse of Columnism?

Read thé article over thé weekend, and for thé first time, praised Délé. I enjoyed thé article. Very insightful and factual.

Also read that Renaissance Professionals' advertorial yesterday. I have undertaken to take thém on in Nigerian dailies on their misinformation. Already preparing an article 'RENAISSANCE PROFESSIONALS OR PROFESSIONAL COMEDIANS?'. Will try and post à copy here when finished. Typing from phone, on bed now, nothing much to contribute now. Gud nyt

@ cristalz & babyx, Tanx.
Still posting from home. Didnt bother to go 2 ofis again. Totally took 2day off 2 rest. Only strolled 2 bank and shopping complex in d afternoon.

Just decided not 2 show up @ office today, before I breakdown. I'vé been feeling signs of breakdown in d last couple of days. It's not been easy since I moved 2 Ajah in August. Driving 3 hours 2 and from work morning and nyt everyday has been harrowing. I wonder if I'm working in bank, how I'll be able 2 cope. I no get liver 4 stress.

Posting ds from my bed @ home. Nôt feeling too well. Sent à text to my boss, asking 4 ds morning off. May show up in thé office latér in thé day sha. Got à number of calls from clients, bankers etc, and work continued from my room.

[quote author=Busy_body link=topic=360271.msg5066242#msg5066242 date=1260201232]For a yabaleft resident of my standing to speak to Mukina's furnitures and for them to pick up the phone and agree to talk to a commoner like me, is no mean feat So abeg waka pass and free me, don't spoil my day, make I feel among too jare [/quote]now i see what is wrong with you. pele o

[quote author=Busy_body link=topic=360271.msg5064682#msg5064682 date=1260190218]Hmmn see show off, let me feel among too


I spoke to her and her table, and her chair and her bag and her bed and her broom and they are all doing fine and will be back shortly. . . [/quote]I can't get you.
Showing off with speaking with Mukina! na wa 4 u o.
What's the big deal?

This report is misleading. It should be internet usage per head of population; i am sure that would make us second from bottom

GBAM

Lagosboy has said it all for whoever has a sense of reasoning, but let me attempt to explain in simpler terms.
Aloy is obviously quoting Abuzola out of context. The school of thought is basically based on matters of fiqh(Islamic jurisprudence), not on aqeedah(creed). No school of thought will tell you adultery is legal or that salat are not 5 or that Muhammad(PBUH) is not the last messenger or Jesus is not a prophet. They never and can never disagree on fundamental issues of faith. In fact, in those matters, the rule is simple and direct: What did Prophet say or do on the matter? Schools of thought do not differ on these key issues and in fact, we don't need any school of thought in such matters.

However, there are issues that need to be decided on but which are not directly mentioned in Qur'an or hadith. For example, issues like permissibility of sucking wife's b'reast etc. You can't find that directly in Qur'an but based on the understanding of these four highly reverred scholars, they give opinions on those issues, drawing from related issues during the prophetic era. A slight difference occurs in some of these opinions, but for majority of issues, they agree.

The summary, again, is that:
-No difference of opinion/ school of thought on issues directly relating to creed. Issues like number of times to pray, non-permissibility of prostitution, stealing, etc, finality of Prophet Muhammad's message, messengership of prophets.
-There are only four recognized schools of thought. Not just anybody can come and say this is this and this is that.

With this, plus explanations offered by Lagosboy, Olabowale and Abuzola himself, I think you should be clear now on what schools of thought is in Islam.

Jarus has a lot on his desk, but most urgently, needs to prepare a report for one of the big bosses. Already done and being reviewed by my line manager before being released because the info is needed for a strategic decision making and we (me and my direct boss) can't afford not to get it right. One of my busiest days.

I started pitying Dora thé day shé accepted that post. I still hold her in high esteem sha. As thé mouthpiece of thé govt, she cant say anything different from govt official position, évén if shé personally feels otherwise. Accepting that position is hér greatest undoing.

'Suffix' me to say that you're also wrong. Thé few years your southerners rule, how have they been different? At thé state level, how have the northern governors been different from their northern counterparts? Thé earlier wé realize that bad leaders are not tribe-specific, thé better for us.

Tanx 4 dat valuable advice, ajanlekoko. I'll reply 2 d points/questions u raised in due course.
Tanx

Mrcrackles as usual

i dont know why or how it disappeared. Maybe spambot auto-deleted it. Tanx

Not a bad draw for SE. Same for Ghana and Cameroun.
I pity CIV.

My favourite.

wwheelz:
@ Jarus

You don't know me but I know you from your posts which are generally insightful and well written, devoid of the usual drama one sees on Nairaland. Not to say I agree with everything you write but I believe you are a very sensible young man with a level of maturity far ahead of your peers so I'm sure you will do the right thing.

Too many of the youth in this country no longer dream, all too often it's all about striking wealth at the shortest possible time. Sad but true and I for one, would not stand in judgement of such individuals because the terrain is rough but it's refreshing to see a young man aspire beyond the usual.

Please work at your dream, I have no doubt you can achieve it and never let what others will say about you decide your course in life.

Do you know me in real life?

Abuzola 1:
This is an insult for the muslim of NL for this thread to get to the frontpage of NL the poster mr nezan did it to ridicule islam. The muslim in authority are puppets. And inshaAllahu they will pay for it

I don't find this funny. I wont say more than that.

The easiest possibility for Nigeria: England, New Zealand, Nigeria, Serbia.
The toughest possibility for Nigeria: Brazil, USA, Nigeria, Portugal

Barka Juma'ah. The Imam talked on the need to stay away from prostitution and adultery.

I don't bank with Zenith, but I think GTB has a very good customer service, only that it's beginning to drift these days.

kokonets:
Hi Jarus,
As regards writing to Sanusi for the job, I think he might not bulge due to the sensitivity involved considering what he is doing in the sector(the reforms). For if one of his enemies should be aware of what he did for you(assuming he helps) then he will be verbally attacked because he acts like an upright man. But nevertheless, you can still try as there is no harm in trying.

Cheers!

I think there is a misinterpretation here. I'm not seeking his favour. I'm not seeking anybody's favour. It's only that I don't want to use the usual channel of dumping CVs in HR, which will be treated as just any other CV. I'm sure CBN HR receives tens of CVs daily and there will be a dedicated file where they are being dumped without even being gone through. But the one that has CBN boss' minute or came from CBN governor's office will surely be taken seriously. I have a quite rich CV that is highly unlikely to be dumped if gone through, but having the HR go through it rather than treating as just any CV is the only reason I'm using the Governor's office route. It will be accompanied by a strong-worded introductory letter to the governor, expressing my genuine desire to join the organization out of conviction that it's a platform for achieving my long-sought ambition of being a trained Economist and not an Accountant. I will be absolutely silent on my debates/publications on the current Sanusi reforms.

tkb417:
I have had engagements with DMO/IBRD on some projects like that and i like their work ethics and the level of professionalism displayed

i think they are sound people and you'll definitely add more to urself intellectually.
I do not think they'll be able to match your pay package since ure coming from a well recongised independent integratedenergy company which isnt doing badly in the country.

I doubt if CBN/DMO can match the pay at the level they'll give to you.

You do not need anybody to make you feel bad cos you wanna work in CBN, ive read where u have mentioned it clearly how you'll love to work in CBN even b4 Sanusi was installed. If you have to write to Sanusi describing how brilliant you aare brandishing your impressive CV, then do it.

I also wanna work in Abuja but CBN and DMO cannot pay for ma lifestyle.

Nice one bro and do what you have to do to get what you have to get

I have also heard about DMO and the level of professionalism there and that is one of the reasons I'm seriously desiring moving there.
The pay package is still a concern and that is in fact the main thing making me hesitant, but if I look at the opportunity of rising, and find it okay, then I may have to trade the pay scale in the short run for long term career rise and growth.

jay bee:
Absolutely nothing morally wrong about it. He his not going to be the one employing you, he will only recommend you in which you will still be tested by HR.
Stuffs like this goes on all the time. The highest paying jobs in public sector in the UK always get filled over tea&coffee by padi padies.
As long have you have the mental toughness and intellect needed to do the job then absolutely nothing morally wrong about it.

Would you steel have moral doubts about the whole process if you haven't spoken about Sanusi on NL?

Yes, I know there is nothing absolutely wrong in it. Small boy as I am here, I have submitted CVs of guys I trust and recommended them to my Head of Dept, and those that proved themselves at selection process got the job. It's as easy as that. If I fluff the selection process, the SLS I know will never intervene on my behalf. It's purely a belief in my ability that I can prove myself if given the chance. My fear is the susceptibility of such move to misinterpretation, as an open Sanusi defender. Nobody will take time to ask how he gets the job, what will be bandied around is that that boy that wrote about Sanusi in newspapers has been 'rewarded' with CBN job. In fact, when a colleague of mine saw my 'Guest Columnist' article on Sanusi in Sun newspaper in October, the joke he cracked with me was 'this man, you want CBN job abi'. This is teh moral dilemma.

You do not need anybody to make you feel bad cos you wanna work in CBN, ive read where u have mentioned it clearly how you'll love to work in CBN even b4 Sanusi was installed.

Thanks for this, TKB. My interest in CBN dated back secondary school and I have mentioned it on NL far before Sanusi.


Finally, this thread is for the records. By the grace of God, I'm taking highly proactive steps towards realizing my dream, starting from next week.

I have seen guys move from investment banking into top MNCs, but the time-tested route is the Audit route. Audit companies, especially the likes of KPMG, PWC, and maybe Akintola Williams, have proved to be sound training grounds for people that turn out to be high fliers in finance and management roles in top companies, including MNCs. A close friend of mine joined Shell from an investment banking institution in 2008 and he confessed that majority of colleagues that also made teh recruitment were from audit companies like KPMG and PWC. Apart from MNCs, products of audit companies like PWC and KPMG are usually hot and easily move to other high paying jobs after a couple of years or more in audit company. That said, I'm not too sure whether Dafinone and FH audit qualify to be categorized as part of this 'time-tested route'

IBs are also good medium to start, if you can withstand the rigour. For stockbrokerage, I think it's too narrow. Stockbroking experience has little relevance in Finance functions of MNCs, compared to Audit background. So, other factors held constant, a person with audit background has higher chance of being picked by MNCs ahead of someone with stockbroking background. Just my opinion. This may be wrong.

barry06:
Hi Nairalanders,

Pls lets reason together.

I am presently working in a challenging environment, though there is about 90% job security.

Sometimes i just wonder if could start a PLAN B now.

I mean start a side-business that require minimum surpervision (NOT Farming nor internet biz).

Why am curious is that am in my early 30's, am burning so much energy, time, etc working to get paid. However, i can't work all my life for an organisation.

I believe same is true for some people out there.

if you are in my shoes, what would be the next best PLAN B.

(Assuming your present income is about 100K)

comments please!

I have a very lavish and unorganized lifestyle and I'm very weak in saving culture(pitiably, highly contradictory to my Economics training). If 100k is my monthly income, I'm afraid that wont cover my monthly expenditure, not to talk of saving, so I can't work with that figure. Even with a current monthly income that more than doubles that figure, saving has still been zig-zag.

I'm currently struggling with my saving and investment habit(owo t'omo kekere ba koko ri, akara lonfije), but I'm working on my financial discipline.
After getting things right, then I can talk of reasonable, organized saving. But my plan is to set up a business while still under this paid job. Different ideas come to my head at different times. I have thought of petroleum marketing business. I have thought of commodity distributorship business(rice, flour, etc). But no serious idea yet. The only idea I'm seriously considering now is real estate, putting up structure in my state(dare not try that in Lagos) and leasing same out. My Plan B is still haphazard and fluid now, but I have it in mind.

jay bee:
What level are you going to be applying for?

I don't know the structure in CBN, but definitely not entry level. Something like Assistant Economist etc. Maybe second level or third.

Don't we have private sector think-thank organisations in Nigeria that you can use as a side-step to your ultimate goal.

Economic associates is good, but I'm not so impressed with their pay. There are a few others, but I think I prefer public sector.

So if having to write to sanusi is what it will take to get to where you wanna be then please no holding back.

Having been an insider and seen people that did it and worked, I have been given valuable tips on how to get my papers across to the CBN governor directly, which he will minute on and get across to the Director of HR. But my concern is the morality of this route.

Ajanlekoko, TKb et al, pls I need your attention here: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-361531.0.html
Thanks

It's been long I'm active in careers section of NL, no thanks to the bubbling, once again, of Politics section, my primary constituency. Ever since we put to rest our interesting and exposing threads on 'investment banking in Nigeria', 'career path' and other highly educative threads we had here some months ago, I have not been coming here again.

Like I have always maintained in our previous discussions on NL, this accounting job I'm doing is just 'by the way', a career path which is closely related to Ajanlekoko's 'General Track' in his insightful thread: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=261802.msg3743137#msg3743137

I have always known I'm not cut out to be an Accountant even though those ACA and ACIT certificates I'm pursuing are just to dress my cabinet. I'm more at home with economic analysis than those figures. I have no regret I started with a job in Accounting, at least I now have more than a passing literacy in Finance, another value-added. But I'm still inconvenient with it and want to go back to primary field-Economics. I'm considering joining Central bank of Nigeria or Debt Management Office, and maybe in the nearest future, go a little bit international by giving a shot at World bank or any other reputable global financial and economic institutions.  I've been looking at this  for long and I want to be proactive.

I had a discussion with a close friend that was formerly with CBN and he told me how to go about it. But I have a number of challenges:

1, The step suggested involved writing to CBN Governor himself. My challenge is I am a known supporter of Sanusi and I have argued voraciously and written publicly in support of Sanusi(at least four articles I wrote on the Sanusi debate have been published in ThisDay, Sun, Daily Trust and New Age). I am also a known supporter of SLS on NL here and through my numerous write-ups on Facebook.  Now I'm hesitant to join CBN, especially writing Sanusi himself, as a matter of principle. I'm sure if Nairalanders get to know that Jarus is now in CBN, all my past debates in favour of the CBN governor will be dug out and I will be accused of being 'rewarded' for my 'ass-licking'. Ditto for my friends on Facebook. This is a reputation issue I don't want to take lightly, even though my opinions and public comments on Sanusi and the current reforms were strictly formed on my convictions that the reform is in order, save one or two methodological errors.

2, The career-pay conundrum. Coming from an indigenous, moderately-paying oil and gas company in the private sector, crossing over to the public sector, CBN or DMO, in the name of career pursuit is no doubt not going to be an easy decision, pay-wise. I don't have much experience( just entering 2 years). I bank on my not-too-bad CV and my strong conviction that, except if politics is put into it, I doubt if I can fluff CBN interview. I don't expect a mouth-watering pay package from CBN as a government institution, but I surely cannot take anything less than my current pay.

3, The Abuja factor. I have been planning of moving to Abuja for some time. My current job is a Head Office function(and our HO is in Lagos). The fact that getting a CBN job affords me the opportunity to move to Abuja is another latent case for the proposed move


I'm also considering Debt Management Office as an alternative to CBN.

Now discussions should centre around:

-Is this not a wrong time for me, morally speaking, to join CBN, giving the fact that I am a known supporter of the current governor?
-Does anybody have an idea about payscale in CBN and DMO?
-What are the training opportunities in CBN and DMO?
-Are these institutions really worthy platforms for going into economic analysis and policy inputs?
-What other informed advice do you have for me on this proposed career turn?

RichyBlacK:
3. [b]Aloy~Emeka: Unearths all the news from everywhere about Nigeria. Your hard work has given many of us our daily news. Thank you for your time and diligence![/b]

I think I underrated Aloy's contribution here. I narrowed "personalities" to 'analysts'. Aloy may not be a top analyst in the mould of beaf, pcicero, Ibime, Ajanlekoko and co, but she is surely a "personality" whose contribution here, through various news she digs up about Nigeria, are invaluable.
If I broaden 'personality' further, Becommrich can also not be overlooked here. Forget about the reasonability of his contribution, the passion he deploys in arguing makes him a 'personality' that cannot be ignored here.

furacao:
No, not on his performance against Madrid alone. But his career at Barcelona. He hasn't led the team as expected, and has been outscored by the other strikers every season, including this one. With Pedro coming up (and being spanish) his chances get slimmer as he gets older, and slower.

So you expected him to re-enact his Arsenal form in Barcelona. He has already reached his peak at Arsenal and even before he left Arsenal, he was already on the decline. I never even expected him to do up to this in Barca. Maybe, you expected Ronaldo De Lima to still be banging in 20+ goals.

snowdrops:
He gave government up to 2010 to rehabilitate the road, failing which he would mobilise for the march.

He said: "I have resolved, as the representative of the good people of Oredo federal Constituency in Edo State, who suffered a great deal on the collapsed Benin-Ore-Lagos road, to take up the gauntlet posed by the exigencies of the times to lead a crusade to compel the federal government to act expeditiously in fixing the road once and for all.

"I hereby, on this date and time, through this press conference, serve notice to the president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, the Speaker of the House of Representatives and well meaning Nigerians of my resolve to lead a mass protest of my constituents and patriotic Nigerians who are daily macadamised by the macabre dance that has become the Benin-Ore-Lagos Road."

Master of bombast at it again!!! 

deor03:
Bro,


Good to hear that everything is working fine in Ghana. That is splendid news. We even acknowledge that as Nigerians and hope to emulate you in many ways


Companies moving to Ghana , Good news
Power Supply everyday, Good news
Oil discovery, Good news


But what baffles me is the insecurity of most Ghanaians. While acknowledging that you are leading, focus on striving forward rather than ALWAYS comparing yourselves with Nigeria.

Nigeria is at it lowest now, but when/if we get it right we will move at the speed of our bottled potential.


Charlie congrats


A proud Nigerian

Exactly. I don't know what their problem is. There is a Ghanaian forum called ghanaweb.com, perhaps their most popular.
If you're on that forum all they discuss is Nigeria. In fact, it was on that forum that I first heard many fresh news, negative of course, about Nigeria.
They even lied that it was Mikel Obi of Nigeria that missed penalty that caused Chelsea semis in the ongoing carling cup http://discussions.ghanaweb.com/viewtopic.php?t=112915