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Is it possible to talk to the jinn and use them?
I spoke with this guy who´s know to e have some powers to talk with Jinn I guess muslim ones), and he told me some stuff about me.those people use words , phrases from Quran to control Jinn. What you think about those people ? And is it ok to speek with them. and those people ( Ahl el-Ketab ) who are they? frankly, I read books, they mention how to make ( TAWEEZ), and how to control Jinn, and see angles, and these books use Quran´s words I like to know more about this, I live away from my family for [b]some years, I faced many problems, And Allah helped me to solve them, I have some ( stupid ) love problem, I need to talk with someone who can really tell me about it, and how to solve it,

Praise be to Allaah.

It is possible to talk to the jinn, but finding about unseen matters and what is in people’s hearts is haraam. Usually those who use words and phrases of the Qur’aan in order to gain control over the jinn use ways that are not Islamic. Using the jinn is a power that was given only to Sulaymaan (peace be upon him). Hence when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) wanted to tie up a jinn whom he had overcome during his prayer, he remembered the du’aa’ of Sulayman and did not do that.

So you should try to advise these people and if they respond, all well and good; otherwise the safest thing to do is to leave them alone and not speak to them.

Ahl al-Kitaab (the People of the Book) are the Jews and Christians.

It is OK to speak with the jinn if this happens without you seeking it, and in fact it is mustahabb to call them to the religion of Allaah and to adhere to His sharee’ah, just as you call people. It is not advisable to read books or to recite Qur’aan for this purpose, because the Qur’aan was not revealed for such things; it was revealed to be a light and a guide in the life of the Muslim, so that the Muslim can follow it, obeying its commandments and avoiding that which it forbids.

With regard to the angels, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and other prophets saw them, and some of the awliyaa’ (close friends of Allaah) spoke with them, as it was reported from ‘Imraan ibn Husayn (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the angels used to greet him with salaam until he started to use branding (cauterization for medical purposes), then they stopped. When he stopped using branding, they started to greet him again. And Allaah knows best.

Shaykh ‘Abd al-Kareem al-Khudayr


Is it possible for the jinn to kidnap a human being?
I have heard many stories about the jinn kidnapping human beings. I read a story which said that a man of the Ansaar (may Allaah be pleased with him) went out to pray ‘Ishaa’ and the jinn took him prisoner and he was lost for years. Is this possible – I mean that the jinn could kidnap a human being?
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Praise be to Allaah.

With regard to the question of possibility, it is possible, but it is very rare. Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Jibreen (may Allaah preserve him) answered this question as follows:

That is possible. It is well known that Sa’d ibn ‘Ubaadah was killed by the jinn when he urinated in a hole in which was their dwelling place, and they said, “We have killed the leader of Khazraj Sa’d ibn ‘Ubaadah; we struck him with an arrow and we did not miss his heart.”

At the time of ‘Umar, a man was kidnapped by the jinn and stayed with them for four years, then he came back and told the people that some mushrik jinn had kidnapped him, and he stayed with them as a prisoner, then some Muslim jinn launched a campaign against them and defeated them, and brought him back to his family. This was mentioned in Manaar al-Sabeel and elsewhere.

(See Manaar al-Sabeel, 2/88. The story of the kidnapped man was reported by al-Bayhaqi (7/445-446) and its isnaad was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Irwaa’, 6/150, no. 1709).

The world of the Jinn
I have read in the Holy Qur'an what a jinn is, but I really don't understand what they really are. Can you please send me more information on them.
[b]Peace be unto you!

Praise be to Allaah.

The Qur’aan and Sunnah indicate that the jinn exist, and that there is a purpose for their existence in this life, which is to worship Allaah Alone, with no partner or associate. Allaah says (interpretation of the meanings):

“And I (Allaah) created not the jinns and humans, except they should worship Me (Alone).” [al-Dhaariyaat 51:56].

“O assembly of jinns and mankind! Did there not come to you Messengers from amongst you, reciting unto you My Verses…?” [al-An’aam 6:130]

The world of the jinn is an independent and separate world, with its own distinct nature and features that are hidden from the world of humans. Jinns and humans have some things in common, such as the possession of understanding and the choice between the way of good and the way of evil. The word jinn comes from an Arabic root meaning “hidden from sight”. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“… Verily he [Shaytaan] and his qabeeluhu [his soldiers from the jinn or his tribe] see you from where you cannot see them…” [al-A’raaf 7:27]

Allaah has told us in His Book the essence from which the jinn were created. He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And the jinn, We created aforetime from the smokeless flame o fire.” [al-Hijr 15:27]

“And the jinns did He create from a smokeless flame of fire.” [al-Rahmaan 55:15].

According to a hadeeth narrated by ‘Aa’ishah, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The angels were created from light, the jinn were created from fire, and Aadam was created from that which has been described to you.” (Reported by Muslim, 5314).

Types of jinn

Allaah has created different types of jinn. Among them are some who can take on different forms, such as dogs and snakes; some who are like flying winds with wings; and some who can travel and rest. Abu Tha’labah al-Khushani said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘The jinn are of three types: a types that has wings, and they fly through the air; a type that looks like snakes and dogs; and a type that stops for a rest then resumes its journey.” (Reported by al-Tahhaawi in Mushkil al-Athaar, 4/95, and by al-Tabaraani in al-Kabeer, 22/214. Shaykh al-Albaani said in al-Mishkaat (2/1206, no. 4148): al-Tahhaawi and Abu’l-Shaykh reported it with a saheeh isnaad).

The jinn and the sons of Aadam

Every individual among the sons of Aadam has a jinn who has been appointed to be his constant companion (qareen). Ibn Mas’ood said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, ‘There is not one of you who does not have a jinn appointed to be his constant companion.’ They said, ‘And you too, O Messenger of Allaah?’ He said, ‘Me too, but Allaah has helped me and he has submitted, so that he only helps me to do good.’” (Reported by Muslim, 2814). Al-Nawawi said in his commentary on Muslim (17/175): “‘He has submitted’ … he became a believing Muslim. This is the apparent meaning. Al-Qaadi said: Know that the ummah is agreed upon the fact that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was protected from Shaytaan, physically and mentally, and with regard to his speech. This hadeeth contains a reference to the warning against the fitnah (temptation, trial) and whispers of the qareen (constant companion from among the jinn). We know that he is with us so we should beware of him as much as possible.”

Their powers

Allaah has given the jinn powers that he has not given to humans. Allaah has told us about some of their powers, such as the ability to move and travel quickly. An ‘ifreet from among the jinn guaranteed to the Prophet Sulaymaan (peace be upon him) that he would bring the throne of the Queen of Yemen to Jerusalem in a moment faster than that needed for a man to get up from where he was sitting. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“An ‘ifreet (strong one) from the jinns said: ‘I will bring it [her throne] to you before you rise from your place (council). And verily, I am indeed strong, and trustworthy for such work.’ One with whom was knowledge of the Scripture said: ‘I will bring it to you within the twinkling of an eye!’ – then when Sulaymaan saw it placed before him, he said, ‘This is by the Grace of my Lord…’” [al-Naml 27:39-40].

The food and drink of the jinn

The jinn eat and drink. Ibn Mas’ood said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Someone from among the jinn called me, and I went with him and recited Qur’aan for them.’ He took us and showed us the traces of where they had been and the traces of their fires. They asked him for food and he said, ‘You can have every bone on which the name of Allaah has been mentioned that comes into your possession, as meat, and all the droppings as food for your animals.’ The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, ‘So do not use [these things] for cleaning yourselves [after relieving oneself], for they are the food and provision of your brothers.’” (Reported by Muslim, 450). According to another report: “A delegation of jinn from Naseebeen came to me, and what good jinn they are! They asked me for food and I prayed to Allaah for them, so that they would not pass by bones or droppings, but they would find food on them.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 3571). The believing jinn may eat any bone on which the name of Allaah has been mentioned, because the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not permit them to have anything on which Allaah’s name has not been mentioned – those are for the kuffaar among the jinn.

The beasts of the jinn

According to the hadeeth narrated by Ibn Mas’ood, that we have quoted above, the jinn asked the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) for provision, and he said to them: “…and [you can have] all the droppings as food for your animals.”

The dwelling-places of the jinn

The jinn live on this earth where we do. They are mostly to be found in ruins and unclean places like bathrooms, dunghills, garbage dumps and graveyards. Hence the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) taught us to take precautions when entering such places, by reciting the adhkaar (prayers) prescribed by Islam. One of these was reported by Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him), who said: “When the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) entered the toilet, he would say, ‘Allaahumma innee a’oodhu bika min al-khubuthi wa’l-khabaa’ith (O Allaah, I seek refuge with You from the evil ones, male and female).’” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 142; and Muslim, 375). Al-Khattaabi explained that khubuth is the plural of khabeeth (evil or dirty – masculine form), and khabaa’ith is the plural of khabeethah (evil or dirty – feminine form), and that what is meant is male and female shayaateen.

Some jinns are Muslims and some are kaafirs

Allaah tells us that some of the jinn said (interpretation of the meaning):

“ ‘And some of us are Muslims, and of us some are al-qaasitoon (disbelievers – those who have deviated from the Right Path). And whosoever has embraced Islam, then such have sought the Right Path. And as for the qaasitoon, they shall be firewood for Hell.’” [al-Jinn 72:14-15]

The Muslims among the jinn are of different levels as regards righteousness and taqwa. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“[Some jinn said:] ‘There are among us some that are righteous, and some the contrary; we are groups, each having a different way (religious sects, etc.)’” [al-Jinn 72:11]

The story of how the first jinn of this ummah became Muslim was narrated by ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abbaas, who said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) went out with a group of his Companions heading for the marketplace of ‘Ukaaz. This was when the shayaateen were prevented from getting any news from heaven, and shooting stars had been sent against them. The shayaateen went back to their people, who said, ‘What is the matter with you?’ They said, ‘We cannot get news from heaven, and shooting stars were sent against us.’ Their people said, ‘Nothing is stopping you from hearing news from heaven except some new event that must have happened. Go and look in the east and the west of the earth, and see if you can find out what it is that is stopping you from hearing news from heaven.’ Those who went out in the direction of Tihaamah came upon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in Nakhlah, when he was on his way to ‘Ukaaz, and found him leading his Companions in Fajr prayer. When they heard the Qur’aan, they listened to it and said, ‘By Allaah, this is what is stopping us from hearing news from heaven.’ When they went back to their people, they said, ‘O our people, we have heard a wonderful Recital (the Qur’aan). It guides to the Right Path, and we have believed therein, and we shall never join (in worship) anything with our Lord (Allaah). [al-Jinn 72:2 – interpretation of the meaning]. Then Allaah revealed to His Prophet peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) the words (interpretation of the meaning): “Say (O Muhammad): ‘It has been revealed to me that a group of jinns listened (to this Qur’aan)…’ [al-Jinn 72:1], and Allaah revealed to him what the jinn had said.” (reported by al-Bukhaari, 731).

Their reckoning on the Day of Resurrection

The jinn will be called to account on the day of Resurrection. Mujaahid (may Allaah have mercy on him) said, concerning the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): “… but the jinns know well that they have indeed to appear (before Him) (i.e., they will be brought to account)” [al-Saffaat 37:158]: “They will be brought to judgement.” Saheeh al-Bukhaari, Baab Dhikr al-Jinn wa Thawaabihim wa ‘Iqaabihim.

Protection from the harm of the jinn

Because the jinn can see us while we cannot see them, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) taught us many ways to protect ourselves from their harm, such as seeking refuge with Allaah from the accursed Shaytaan, reciting Soorat al-Falaq and Soorat al-Naas (the last two Soorahs of the Qur’aan), and reciting the words taught by Allaah in the Qur’aan (interpretation of the meaning): “Say: ‘My Lord! I seek refuge with You from the whisperings (suggestions) of the shayaateen (devils). And I seek refuge with You, my Lord, lest they may attend (or come near) me.’” [al-Mu’minoon 23:97-98]

Saying Bismillaah (in the Name of Allaah) before entering one’s home, before eating or drinking, and before having intercourse will also keep the Shaytaan from entering the house or partaking with a person in his food, drink and sexual activity. Similarly, mentioning the name of Allaah before entering the toilet or taking off one’s clothes will prevent the jinn from seeing a person’s ‘awrah or harming him, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “To put a barrier that will prevent the jinn from seeing the ‘awrah of the sons of Aadam, let any one of you say ‘Bismillaah’ when entering the toilet.” (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, 551; Saheeh al-Jaami’, 3611).

Strength of faith and religion in general will also prevent the jinn from harming a person, so much so that if they were to fight, the one who has faith would win. ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “A man from among the Companions of Muhammad met a man from among the jinn. They wrestled, and the human knocked down the jinn. The human said to him, ‘You look small and skinny to me, and your forearms look like the front paws of a dog. Do all the jinn look like this, or only you?’ He said, ‘No, by Allaah, among them I am strong, but let us wrestle again, and if you defeat me I will teach you something that will do you good.’ The human said, ‘Fine.’ He said, ‘Recite, ‘Allaah! None has the right to be worshipped but He, the Ever-living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists…’ [Aayat al-Kursi – al-Baqarah 2:255 – interpretation of the meaning]. The human said, ‘Fine.’ He said, ‘You will never recite this in your house but the Shaytaan will come out of it like a donkey breaking wind, and he will never come back in until the next morning.’” (Reported by al-Daarimi, 3247).

This is a brief summary about the jinn, and their nature and characteristics. Allaah is the Best of protectors and the Most Merciful of those who show mercy.

For more information see ‘Aalam al-Jinn wa’l-Shayaateen by ‘Umar Sulaymaan

Interacting with the jinn
My husband has told me that in his country, many people including shiekhs have gone to talk with the jinn. He told me that when someone has an ailment they go to the jinn for help. I have told my husband that I believe that this is Haraam, but he says that it is halaal because the shiekhs do that. Could you please give me some evidence (daleel) about this matter?.[/b]

Praise be to Allaah.

1 – Seeking the help of the jinn or turning to them to fulfil one’s desires to cause harm or bring benefit is shirk or associating others in worship with Allaah, because it is a kind of mutual benefitting whereby the jinni responds to the human’s requests and fulfils his needs in return for the human’s veneration of the jinni, turning to him and asking for his help to do what he wants.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meanings):

“And on the Day when He will gather them (all) together (and say): ‘O you assembly of jinn! Many did you mislead of men,’ and their Awliyaa’ (friends and helpers) amongst men will say: ‘Our Lord! We benefited one from the other, but now we have reached our appointed term which You did appoint for us.’ He will say: ‘The Fire be your dwelling place, you will dwell therein forever, except as Allaah may will. Certainly your Lord is All-Wise, All-Knowing.’

And thus We do make the Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers) Awliyaa’ (supporters and helpers) of one another (in committing crimes), because of that which they used to earn”

[al-An’aam 6:128]

“And verily, there were men among mankind who took shelter with the males among the jinn, but they (jinn) increased them (mankind) in sin and transgression”

[al-Jinn 72:6]

If a human seeks the help of a jinni to cause harm to another person, or seeks his help for protection from the evil of a person whose evil he fears, all of that is shirk.

Whoever is like this, his prayer and his fasting are both invalid, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“If you join others in worship with Allaah, (then) surely, (all) your deeds will be in vain, and you will certainly be among the losers”

[al-Zumar 39:65]

If a person is known for that, then the funeral prayer is not to be offered for him if he dies, his funeral is not to be attended, and he is not to be buried in the Muslim graveyard.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 1/407, 408

2 – The Standing Committee was asked a similar question, which said:

I would like to inform you that in Zambia there is a Muslim men who claims that he has jinn with him, and the people go to him and ask him to heal their diseases, and this jinn prescribes medicine for them. Is that permissible?

The answer is:

It is not permissible for that man to use the services of the jinn, and it is not permissible for the people to go to him, seeking treatment for their diseases through advice from the jinn, or to fulfil any needs in this manner.

Treating disease by means of human doctors and by using permissible medicines means that there is no need for that. This should be enough to free us from the control of these charlatans.

It was narrated in a saheeh hadeeth that the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever goes to a fortune-teller and asks him about something, his prayers will not be accepted for forty days.” (Narrated by Muslim)

The four authors of al-Sunan, and al-Haakim in a saheeh hadeeth, narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever goes to a fortuneteller and believes what he said has disbelieved in that which was revealed to Muhammad.”

This man and his companions from among the jinn are to be regarded as fortunetellers and soothsayers. It is not permissible to ask them anything or to believe them.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 1/408, 409).

And Allaah knows best.
Islam Q&A

Let's start with this:
These questions were asked scholars on the topic Jinn. The scholars we are talking about here are not just any alfas pls. They are vastly knowledgeable Saudi scholars, world class scholars, if anything like that exists.

QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ON JINNS: Source-Islamqa.com.

People claiming that they can make lots of money by using the jinn
There is a man who claims that he deals with the jinn, and that he is prepared to pay huge profits to anyone who deals with him. For example, if I give him one million, he will use mercury to deal with the jinn, and then he will give me a profit of approximately five million riyaals. What is your opinion of this man's claims? Is it true that the jinn can bring money to a person who – as he claims – uses them?

Praise be to Allaah.

In my opinion this is not permissible, because dealing with them usually only comes after getting close to them by means of things that they like. This is the action of the practitioner of witchcraft who gets close to the Shaytaan by doing things that he likes, which cancels out all his good deeds. When he mentioned that he uses mercury, this is deceit and taking people’s money under false pretences, and it may come under the heading of gambling and stealing. The shayaateen work by illusions and magic, and it is known that they do not possess any kind of money or currency or goods. If they give anything of that sort to a person, either it is an illusion that is not real, or else it is something that has been stolen from other people. It is not right to deal with them at all.

In fact, many of these fraudsters who claim that they can make money are cheats and liars who deceive the people and destroy their wealth and efforts; it is no more than theft. The newspapers are full of stories like this. We ask Allaah to keep us safe and sound.
Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid,Saudi Arabia

Jinn entering human bodies
In the last few days a controversy has arisen concerning the matter of jinn entering human bodies. Some say that this is rationally impossible, because of the difference in the essences from which they were created, as man was created from clay and the jinn from fire. It has also been said that the shayaateen (devils) have no power other than waswaas (insinuating whispers) and that Allaah has not given them any power over man. And it is said that the recorded tapes that are in circulation (recordings of jinn supposedly speaking through people) are no proof of anything. What is your response to all this?

Praise be to Allaah.

The fact that jinn can enter human bodies is proven in the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and by the consensus of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, and by real-life events. No one disputes this apart from the Mu’tazilah who give priority to their own rational analysis over the evidence of the Qur’aan and Sunnah. We will mention a little about this below:

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Those who eat Ribaa will not stand (on the Day of Resurrection) except like the standing of a person beaten by Shaytaan (Satan) leading him to insanity. That is because they say: ‘Trading is only like Ribaa’…” [al-Baqarah 2:275]

Al-Qurtubi said in his Tafseer (part 3, p. 355): “This aayah is proof that those people are wrong who deny that epilepsy is caused by the jinn and claim that its causes are only physical, and that the Shaytaan does not enter people or cause madness.”

Ibn Katheer said in his Tafseer (part 1, p. 32), after mentioning the aayah quoted above: “They will not rise from their graves on the Day of Resurrection except like the way in which the epileptic rises during his seizure, when he is beaten by the Shaytaan. This is because they will rise in a very bad state. Ibn ‘Abbaas said: the one who consumes ribaa will rise on the Day of Resurrection crazy and choking.”

According to a saheeh hadeeth narrated by al-Nasaa’i from Abu’l-Yusr, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to pray: “Allaahumma innee a’oodhu bika min al-taraddi wa’l-haram wa’l-gharaq wa’l-harq, wa a’oodhu bika an yatakhabatani al-shaytaan ‘ind al-mawt ( O Allaah, I seek refuge with You from being thrown from a high place, old age, drowning and burning; and I seek refuge with You from being beaten by the Shaytaan at the time of death).” Commenting on this hadeeth in Al-Fayd (part 2, p.148), al-Manaawi said: “[The phrase] ‘and I seek refuge with You from being beaten by the Shaytaan at the time of death’ means, lest he should wrestle with me and play with me, and damage my religious commitment or mental state (at the time of death) by means of his insinuating whispers which cause people to slip or lose their minds. The Shaytaan could take control of a person when he is about to depart this world, and misguide him or stop him from repenting…”

Ibn Taymiyah (Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 42/276) said: “The fact that jinn can enter human bodies is proven by the consensus of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): ‘Those who eat Ribaa will not stand (on the Day of Resurrection) except like the standing of a person beaten by Shaytaan (Satan) leading him to insanity. That is because they say: ‘Trading is only like Ribaa’…’ [al-Baqarah 2:275]. And in as-Saheeh it is narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘The Shaytaan flows through the son of Adam as the blood flows through his veins.’”

‘Abd-Allaah ibn al-Imaam Ahmad ibn Hanbal said; “I said to my father, ‘There are some people who say that the jinn do not enter the body of the epileptic.’ He said: ‘O my son, they are lying; the jinn could speak through this person.’” Commenting on this, Ibn Qudaamah said: “What he said is well known, because a person may suffer an epileptic seizure and speak in a language that no one understands, and his body may be beaten with blows that would fell a camel, but the epileptic does not feel them at all, and he is also unaware of the words he is saying. The epileptic and others may be dragged about, or the carpet on which he is sitting may be pulled, and utensils may be moved about from place to place, and other things may happen. Anyone who witnesses such a thing will know for sure that the one who is speaking through the person and moving these things is not human.” And he said, may Allaah have mercy on him: “There is no one among the imaams of the Muslims who denies that jinn may enter the body of the epileptic and others. Anyone who denies that and claims that Islam denies it is lying about Islam. There is nothing in the proofs of sharee’ah to show that it does not happen.”

So the fact that jinn may enter human bodies is proven in the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and by the consensus of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, some of whose comments we have quoted above.

As regards the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): “but they could not thus harm anyone except by Allaah’s Leave” [al-Baqarah 2:102], this is undoubtedly a clear indication that the jinn cannot harm anyone through witchcraft or epilepsy or through any other kind of disturbance or misguidance, except with the permission of Allaah. As al-Hasan al-Basri said: “Whomever Allaah wills, He gives them power over him, and whomever He does not will, He does not give them power over him, and they cannot do anything to anyone except with the permission of Allaah.” The Shaytaan (who is the disbelieving jinn) may gain power over the believers by making them sin and by making them neglect the remembrance and Tawheed of Allaah and sincerity in worshipping Him. But he has no power over the righteous slaves of Allaah, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, My slaves (i.e. the true believers of Islamic Monotheism) — you have no authority over them. And All-Sufficient is your Lord as a Guardian” [al-Israa’ 17:65]

During the Jaahiliyyah the Arabs were well aware of this and mentioned it in their poetry. For example, the poet al-A’shaa likened his she-camel’s energy to that of one who was touched by the jinn, and said that it was the jinn who was giving her her energy.

As regards the causes of epilepsy, Ibn Taymiyah explained (in Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 19/39) the causes. He said: “When the jinn touch a person with epilepsy, it may be because of desire or love, just as happens between one human and another… or it may – as is usually the case – be because of hatred and punishment, such as when a person has harmed them or they think that he has harmed them deliberately, either by urinating on them or pouring hot water on them or killing them, even if the person did that unknowingly. There are ignorant and wrongdoing ones among the jinn who may punish a person more than he deserves, or they may be playing with him and mistreating him, like foolish people among mankind.”

And I say: the way to save oneself from this is to remember Allaah and speak His Name at the beginning of all things, as it was reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to mention Allaah in many cases, such as when eating, drinking, mounting his riding-beast, taking off his clothes for any reason, having intercourse and so on…

As regards treatment (of one whose body has been entered by the jinn), Ibn Taymiyah said (Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 19/42): “When the jinn attack a person, they should be told of the rulings of Allaah and His Messenger, proof should be established against them, and they should be commanded to do what is good and told not to do what is evil, just as should be done in the case of people, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): ‘And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning)’ [al-Israa’ 17:15].” Then he said: “If the jinn does not leave after being addressed in this manner, then it is permissible to rebuke him, tell him off, threaten him and curse him, as the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did with the Shaytaan when he came with a falling star to throw it in his face, and the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I seek refuge with Allaah from you and I curse you with the curse of Allaah” – three times. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari).We may also seek help against the jinn by remembering Allaah (dhikr) and reciting Qur’aan, especially Aayat al-Kursi. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever recites it will remain under the protection of Allaah and no shaytaan (devil) will be able to approach him until the morning.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari). And al-Mi’wadhatayn (the last two soorahs of the Qur’aan) may also be recited.

As for psychiatrists who do not treat the epileptic in the manner described, they cannot do him any good at all.

This issue may be discussed in much more detail, but what we have said here is sufficient for those who want to know a little about this matter, Praise be to Allaah, the Lord of the Worlds.

Masaa’il wa rasaa’il, Muhammad Mahmoud al-Najdi, p. 23

Babs87,may Allah reward you abundantly. The topic JINN is one I'm very much interested in. I have read many texts and listened to enlightening lectures on it. I still have the cassette of a very educative lecture on JINN titled THE WORLD OF THE JINN delivered in New York by Dr. Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips, the Jamaican-born Islamic scholar. The lecture exposes many things about the world of the JINNS.There are other books on it.

In fact, my knowledge of the world of the JINN strenghtens my faith in Islam. I have had a personal experience. A very close family member was attacked by JINN. The Jinn appeared to her in dream and told her he was God. He told her many things things, including not to observe 5 daily prayers again; that five daily prayers have been overruled. Also she was told by the creature(telling her he was God) that Qur'an outlived its usefulness and should not be followed again(may Allah save us from this).The story is very long but I'll cut it short because it makes me cry whenever I recount it. Unfortunately, the creature was able to convince her, and she now believes she's a prophet,that God spoke with her. We noticed change in her attitude to and speech about religion, but did not know what was happening until around August 2002.

I will not mention the relationship between me and this person, but we lived under the same roof while I was growing up. It was a very pathetic story.
I was the first person in the family to know that the problem with this person was a case of JINN attack. It was in 2002 and I had just read the book FUNDAMENTALS OF TAOHEED(ISLAMIC MONOTHEISM) by Dr. Bilal Philips. In the book he described briefly how JINNs operate to mislead people. His description was exactly what I observed in this person. I raised alarm in the family that the person was under JINN influence. I was just a small boy of 20 then, and a 200 Level OAU student, they all thought I was saying rubbish.
Alhamdulilah, through recitation of Quranic verses on this person, she got better. But I must say that incidence spurred me to do research on the topic JINN. I read many Islamic texts and listened to schloarly lectures on the topic. It exposed me to many things, and I must say it sealed my faith that Islam is indeed the true religion. Tears usually flow from my eyes whenever I'm discussing this topic, because iI wonder how my life and belief would have been if I'm ignorant of this JINN. I came to know that Juju and magic work by way of these invincible creations called Jinns. I came to know that it is true that all these Christian miracle-workers, the deviant Muslim alfas and the babalawos employ nothing but Jinn. I came to know that people that claim that God speaks to them actuallyand truly see and hear something, but definitely not God. They are seeing Jinns deceiving them as God or Jesus or even Muhammad(yes, anybody that says he sees Muhammad in dream, and tell him to do something not done by Muhammad when he was alive, ahs definitely seen another thing,not Muhammad).

Babs, I'm ready to contribute actively to this thread. I've read quite widely and has experienced real-life cases to contribute to this thread. Let's educate our brothers and sisters so taht they will not fall victim of agents of accursed Shaytaan(jinns) who has promised to do all possible to mislead Muslims.
More to come.

Summary of the article:
1,That Obama could be a Muslim, just pretending. Or at least has great sympathy for Muslims and most of his associates are Muslims
2,That he has a questionable source of income.

Another stupidity from a faceless writer!!!

Dear Deepzone,
I have known you to be number 1 tribalist on NL for long but when you opened the thread HOW DO WE END THE COLD(TRIBAL) WAR? (https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-179477.0.html) I thought you had been exorcised of the demonic tribal affliction disturbing you, but you have proved me wrong once again.
Just see your threads for yourself:
NORTHERN PASSPORT ROBBERY GANG NABBED
IGBOS TAKE TRIBALISM TO CHURCH
ANOTHER EASTERN GOVERNOR CAUGHT BY EFCC
NORTH CAN'T CATCH UP WITH THE SOUTH
WHY DO HAUSA RARELY LIVE IN UK OR US
ONE WOMAN,TWO HUSBANDS IN IJAWLAND
WHAT USE IS THE NORTH ECONOMIC SUMMIT TO NIGERIANS
HAUSA TRADITIONAL RELIGION
PRESSURE ON FG TO CRIPPLE GLO, ZAIN OTHERS--THE ETHNIC DIMENSION
YARADUA RETURN UPSETS NORTHERN AGENDA
MURTALA MOHAMMED
NORTH PANICS OVER YARADUA'S HEALTH
NORTH-EAST TOPS CORRUPTION LIST-SAYS ICPC
TO HELL WITH YOUR OIL,NORTH TELLS SOUTH

While there is nothing wrong in being interested in other tribes, why is it that you only look at 'negative' aspects of other tribes? Why is it that it is only negative news about other tribes that you copy and paste here? Why do you attach tribe to almost all your topics on negative things?

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« #32 on: April 14, 2008, 12:01 PM »

the Governor is a muslim and the wife a Christian . . .any biggie Huh

the House of Assembly is populated by mostly Christians . . .is anyone complaining Huh

most LG Chairmen are christians . . , any issue here Huh

most people that make up the State Exco are christians . . .so Huh

most people that make up the state exco of the AC are christians . . .anybody carry placard Huh


abeg make everybody face front jare . . .Lagos no get time for religious sentiments Cool

Answers your question

DeepZone:
@bold,
Islamic mafia, short and simple.

I feel disppointed at the way some people reason at times. Islamic mafia? Where? In Lagos,abi?
Oyo state is another state with a very great percentage of Muslims, but the state has been ruled by more Christians than Muslims, yet nobody is raising eyebrow. 4 Christians(Bola Ige,Olunloyo,Kolapo Ishola and Akala) and just two Muslims(Lam and Ladoja).

There are a sizeable number of Muslims in Ogun state as well(not up to Oyo though), yet a Muslim has never been elected Governor. Bisi Onabanjo,Segun Osoba(twice) and Daniel are all Christians. I expect us to have outgrown all these stupid arguments.

The Lagos case, I believe is just a coincidence or at most a mere reflection of the fact that more of the real Lagosians are Muslims.

dayokanu:
All those Naija players should be removed from that list. Martins? why not garba lawal

Dayokanu, remember we are talking about TOP 20, not TOP 3 or TOP 5, so there is no way at least three Nigerians will not make Africa's TOP 20. Are you saying Mikel and Yak will not make Africa's TOP 20? NO.

Let me see your AFRICA TOP 20, that doesn't include a Nigerian.

Omo Sekina:
In as much as i don't usually delve into religious issues, i cannot but observe and make comments on this and indeed i don't mind whose ox is gored. I had taken out time a while back and looked at the state called "Lagos"; and about 2 months ago i told a gathering of friends that Lagos state is a muslim state. My friends came up with different opinions; some said they don't think so and some said they have never thought about it etc

However, i was only able to confirm my sincere opinion on Friday when Lagos state government held its government forum marking its 1st 500 days in office. I was chocked but not so shocked that in the commencement of the occasion as usual prayers would be administered. To my great surprise, prayer was only taken in islam. I thought about our leaders (so called). Could that have been an omission or what? As supposed, despite the fact that i was born and bred here in Lagos and the fact that this state has become so cosmopolitan; accommodating all tribes and tongues, knowing fully well that it was not only muslims that voted for the present administration.

I really find this very absurd and not acceptable to the people of this great state. For record purposes, if this was a mistake, we are not looking forward to that kind of mistake again.

If anything, Muslims are at the receiving end of this bypassing. In many organizations, political and corporate, both opening and closing prayers are said in Christian way. This is very common, so i don't know how this poster is making issue out of this. That doesn't make lagos a Muslim state.
By the way, I, for one, don't take all this issue of opening or closing prayers seriously. In fact, in teams I have led/anchored/coordinated in the past, I always tried to evade opening/closing prayers, and prefer the program start off straight. Pray in yourself if you want to.

Moslems are more political while the xtians are more into the corporate world. How many CEO's are Moslems? 

Muslims are equally doing well in the corporate world please. The likes of Wale Tinubu(Oando), Fola Adeola(founder of GTB),Mutiu Sunmonu(MD,Shell Nigeria), Dangote(President Dangote group) and many others are all Muslims and leading the corporate Nigeria

That was the latest on MTNFOOTBALL opinion poll, but in my own list I'll strike out Yobo and Mensah for Uche and Niang.

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It has now become very glaring that this guy will win African player of the year 2007

Adebayor Hits Four To Ease Togo Turmoil



Emmanuel Adebayor
Adebayor hit four goals in the 6-0 defeat of Swaziland
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October 13, 2008

Striker Emmanuel Adebayor has had a running battle with Togo football officials and sent them the strongest possible message that they need him more as he scored four goals on the Hawks 6-0 thrashing of Swaziland on Saturday.

The 24-year-old hit four goals in the 6-0 defeat of Swaziland in Accra in the Group 11 qualifier that kept alive their hopes of reaching thesxecond phase of the qualifiers.
Salifou Moustapha and Olufade Akekami also scored for the 'Sparrowhawks' as they spectacularly avenged a 2-1 loss in the tiny southern Africa mountain kingdom last June.

The result confirmed Zambia as winners of a mini-league reduced to three nations when Eritrea withdrew before it kicked off, but six-point Togo are likely to make the final round as one of the best eight runners-up.
Adebayor, who missed Togoʼs previous match in the African qualifying campaign because he did not like the travel arrangements, had threatened not to play in this must-win tie, saying he had temporarily retired, but changed his mind at the last moment.

Thank God,I'm not from a village. I have never celebrated Ileya outside of my town!!!

Sisikill, are you an hausa? From which state?

The question is who is more famous?, not who is the greater player?

From my own opinion, there is hardly any person around the world that knows Kanu that doesn't know Okocha. Recently somebody said he was in Germany, and immediately he was identified as a Nigerian, after the extra search and suspicion, teh next thingh was 'oh you are from Okocha's country'. In Iran and Mexico, it was the same experience'oh you are from Okocha's country'. Till today in Brazil, mere knowledge of you as a Nigerian triggers the statement 'oh from Kanu's country(remember kanu broke their hearts in Atlanta 96).

These two players are unarguably Nigeria's most famous the world, followed by maybe Mikel and Martins(for their CL appearnces).

There is hardly anybody that knows Kanu that doesn't know JJ, but if I'm to choose one, I'll say Kanu is more famous because I have observed that kanu is always listed among the likes of Etoo,Weah,Drogba, Essien anytime international sports analysts are giving examples of Africa's gift to world football. I have heard and read statements like ''Africa has come of age, producing great players like Et'oo,Drogba,Weah,Essien,Kanu, " from reputable sports commentators several times.

I completely disagree. We still need these players for world cup.
Tell me who will replace each of them?
Kanu: [/b]We still need him. Take it or leave it, his skills have not totally deserted him. Imagine a world cup match(SA 2010) between Nigeria and Holland, 75 minutes, match still goalless, with Kanu watching from the bench. Suddenly comes on Kanu, from the midfield, dribbles one Dutch player, a telepathic pass to waiting Ike Uche, and trust Uche, run ring round the Dutch last man, and inside the net the his ferocious shot goes. Yes, I'm fantasizing but pls we all know what Kanu can do. I, for one, am always confident whenever we have Kanu on the field. he might be anonymous all through, but a single magic from him can turn the match around. Let him retire after WC 2010
[b]Yak Take it or leave it, Yak has got plenty to offer to the S/Eagles. We still need him. Let there be competition among our forwards.Yak is as dangerous, if not more dangerous, than Martins. Yak shares TOP 9 position with Martins now. If he goes,nobody will be there to compete with Martins. And if Martins gets injured, who is our next reliable striker? By the way, who will replace Yak as our TOP 9? Uche is not a a centre forward. Yak and Martins are our only centre forwards. All other forwards(Uche,Osaze,Utaka) are more of wingers.
[b]Utaka[/b]Utaka has seriously dipped in form and I doubt if he can regain his Lens/Rennes and early Portsmouth form, but I still believe we cannot afford not to take him to the WC, if we qualify. Provided he doesn't block Ogbuke's place. I believe Ogbuke is better than him at the moment, but the two of them can still be taken to the WC. Let Oguke and Utaka both be in the team and fight for shirt on who plays 7.

Saw this mockery on Ghanaweb and can't stop laughing

1luvkipsus:
Do all these augment justify the lie and fallacy that Awolowo was a nationalist? I didn't even know that Herbert Macauly was a yoruba man.

Yes he was a Yoruba, a real Lagosian. One of the earliest educated people in Nigeria, born in i think 1867. Nit sure, but think he had a slavery background, hence the name sounded oyinbo.

Hmmmmmnn, I have been seeing this thread for some time but did not mind opening it, thought it can't be interesting. But when I saw it already reaching ten pages in few days of being started, I knew something interesting must be going on in there. The first thing that came to my mind was, another tribal-bashing is going on in this thread. Curiously, I opened the thread, and wow, I was amazed. I was wrong with my initial thought. No tribal insults here, except the poster before me that wanted to trigger one. But pls ignore.

I read each and every post here, from page 1 to 10, and sighted the pictures, though couldn't hear the sounds, due to my system.

I must say I admire Hausa/Fulani culture and heritage, with the exception of a very few ones.
I'm a core Yoruba, born and bred in Kwara, schooled in Kwara and Osun, and now working in Lagos, and my first opportunity to live in the north(oh sorry I've forgotten I'm also a northerner, Kwara) came when I served in Sokoto 2007/2008. I immersed myself into Sokoto environment and there is hardly any cybercafe or well-known eatery in Sokoto they don't know me.

I must confess I like northern culture. I deeply admire Hausa/Fulani people. Maybe because I'm a Muslim, I greatly enjoyed living in Sokoto. I still communicate with my Hausa/friends I met in Sokoto till today. In fact, I'll gladly welcome my company posting me from Head Office here to any northern city, one that has airport though.


Being a Muslim and a non-fan of western culture, I find hausa culture nearest to my style. Hausa/Fulani ladies are extremely beautiful. I used to go and readin UDUS city campus, and I saw a lot of them, and kai, they are gorgeous. Even Christian corper-colleagues used to acknowledge this.

Pitiably, the western culture is also making in-roads into Hausaland, and I'm quite disappointed with the way some of their ladies now dress, no thanks to Kannywood.

Since I came back to Lagos, my fondness of the north has not waned. I still use to read Daily Trust newspaper online everday for updates on happenings in the north.
So attracted to Hausa people now I am that even at home in lagos here, I mix with our hausa gatemen and watch hausa films with them. I now know some of their actors and actresses like Sani Musa Danja, Sadiya Gyale,Monsura Isa, Hafsah Shehu,Ahmed S. Nuhu and the 'beautiful' Ali Nuhu(permit me to use that adjective). [ I have watched Ali Nuhu's Hausa films before and read and learnt he acts English and speaks fluent English as well?]. I like that guy.

Is ife sharing money?

I no get money wey a go share oo. I just started the thread to test the ingenuity and creativity of NL sports analysts. Just a mental exercise to catch fun, and some education.

419- This term that originated from Nigeria but is now globally used as a word. Nigeria has added a word to English dictionary.

You need not go to this extent to complain about a misnormer in your school.

Olaolufred:
Winning teams like, S.A, S/ leone, Zimbabwe etc. can really not be a big problem.

Though, i am sure of our qualification for CAF nations cup. The FIFA world cup is still

far from been sure of.

Why?

The team we think we have is not yet a team except a drastic change occur.

Our Struggled wins up till now can not be relied on to help us when we peradventure

have to qualify in a group that include either Cameroun,or Ghana, C/D'ivore, Egypt, Tunisia,or the killer Angola.

They need to work hard. We have some few talented players, but NO team. Ogula.

This is what I'm saying. Nigerians are already celebrating the return of the Eagles, praising Ahmodu, six wins in a row etc. But ask which teams they beat: SA (2-0, 1-0), SL(1-0), Equitorial Guinea(1-0?)

Let's see what happens in second round when they face CIV or Cameroun

In Ghanaian forums, Nigeria is mocked 419ja or 419geria. In Germany, the knowledge of you as a Nigerians triggers extra watch and search.

delegiwa:
Do we even need to talk about the match at all? No be my Super Chikens sorry Eagles? No be for Abuja them go play am? No be for Saturday? The scores: Count de whole of your left fingers

5 goals? This goal-shy Eagles? When last did Eagles score 3 goals in a match? Ok, they beat Zimbabwe and Algeria 5-2 and 5-1 respectively in 2005, when the WC hope had already been dashed.
In the last three years I can't recall a match Eagles score 3 goals, not to talk of 5 goals. It's been 1-0, 2-1,1-1,2-0 even against Equitorial Guinea, Niger, Benin, Lesotho etc. Yet we parade the 2nd most star-studded attack in Africa(after CIV).CIV's attack recorded more than 15 goals enroute ANC 2008, spanking opponents 5-0, 3-0 etc. Too bad.
When will Nigeria return to attacking football pls?

Hmmmnnn, Nigeria-S/Leone? Another unconvincing 2-0 win.

dayokanu:
@ Ife-eco,

I share similar sentiments about Awo. He should just have waited at the regional level and sent Akintola his aide to compete with Tafawa at the federal level while holding his forte as the kingmaker back home.

See Ahmadu bello he sent his boy Tafawa to compete with Awo That was a big slight on Awo.

Though Awo was the most visionary leader in the history of nigeria, his Insatiable quest for power atimes overrode his good Judgment.

Some of the things credited to Awo are actually Akintola's legacy.

Abiii o.
Being a trained lawyer and journalist, maybe only ZIK can compete with him in terms of education then. But wanting to eat his cake and have it was his major problem.
Unfortunately, ignorant people demonized Akintola as a traitor, and see Awo as a saint. No disrespect for Awo though, but he was not as good as many people people use to think.

Another 2-0 win for Eagles.

SegzyJoe:
@post
Funny enough, all the people disputing that Awo is not the best Nigerian leader of all time have not been able to present alternative credible leader so far. I think the problem is not because Awo is not the best, rather it is because as Nigerians every of our decisions is not without an ethnic colouration. Sincerely, It is not our fault everything in Nigeria is premised on ethnic sentiments, that is why we have quota system, rotational presidency, even now some ethnic group are warming up for the presidency in 2011 and beyond. Above all, whether at local, regional or national level, no Nigerian leader has measured up or surpass Awo's vision, leadership and achievements. Some of the Posts and comments above are classical example of how ethnic colouration and sentiments can obscure and blurr objectivity. An average Nigerian sees life from ethnic perspective. It is a sin we re all guity of as Nigerians.

There is no disputing the fact that Awo was a man of ideas,almost unarguably the brightest among his contemporary. But the problem I have with him is his selfish and know-all style. He also often deployed his widely-acclaimed sagacity to deceive people, and gullibly enough, it worked for him and and he won the sentiments of many of the Yoruba people around him then. My Dad, also a first republic politician, is an Awoist to the core, and dare not see this I'm writing about Awo.

In 1963, after relinguishing premiership of Western region to Akintola, and not being able to clinch power at the central, he wanted his seat back by force, and that triggered bloodshed and arson(the infamous Operation wetie crisis of 1963 in Ibadan and the whole West).

Herbert Macualey, though a Yoruba, was more nationalist. Although he died, not being able to complete the independence struggle, he was more widely acceptable nationally. In fact he slumped in the North(Minna, to be precise) on a nationalist struggle. Zik was another leader whose leadership style also has minimal tribal. Zik spoke Hausa,Yoruba and of course Igbo, fluently, maybe taht helped him.

Although I don't have belief in all these political campaigns in Nigeria, I think this Dapo deserves some kudos for not ignoring Nairaland, having heard from a friend that he had been made the subject of a discussion on NL. He could have ignored NL. Afterall, I doubt if bashing and bad-mouthing him here can have any negative effect on his political ambition.
I'm still neutral. Not for or against Dapo, politically. But coming here to defend himself, he tried.

DeepZone:
Of course they can. What if there is a serious natural disaster in the south?

Can't get this. Natural disaster? And everybody in the South will die abii?