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Balarabe only restated the obvious. It's a known fact. I also heard the Sokoto state commissioner for Education say it in an NTA network problem some months ago. They can however close the gap, but definitely not being on the same educational level with any state in the South.

Comparing all these players could be quite complex because they are different sets of players.
You could have grouped them like this:
Adebayor V Kanu (both have many things in common: tall, leggy,almost same style): I go with Kanu
Kanu V Okocha(both are skilful): I go with Okocha
Utaka V Yakubu(both forwards, though style quite dissimilar): I go with Yakubu
Adebayor V Yakubu( Both premiership respected forward): I go with Adebayor

If at all I want to answer your question of comparing the four together, then the criteria has to be who is/was most effective in his chosen role, then I will rank them like this:
1, Okocha
2, Kanu
3, Adebayor
4, Yakubu
5, Utaka

and I will like to add:
Utaka V Ogbuke V Uche V Osaze: Who is our best winger?

DeepZone:
I've always been like this. People shouldn't mix criticism with tribalism. We know the real tribalists here but I must say that you are among the very few here that contributes a constructive argument without an iota of tribalism. I think it'll be better you tell nairaland how you achieved that feat and whether it's by mind training, religion or you were that way from birth. It's a pity that even members here that are very religious quickly throw the religion out of the window whenever the issue of tribalism is at hand. I hope you are like that too outside nairaland.

Hmmmmmmnnnnnnnn, I actually grew up being a die-hard tribalist. I only changed my tribalist orientation and mentality a few years ago. And it has more to do with religion than any other thing. After growing up and understanding Islam well, I shed my tribalist thinking because I got to know that Islam strictly warns against tribalism and other forms of sectionalism.

The fact however is, it takes discipline to extricate oneself from the stranglehold of tribalist mentality. Almost naturally, one grows up thinking his tribe is the best. The people one lives with affects one's mindset. I grew up hating Hausa, seeing them as illiterate abokis. I remember we also how we used mock ibos as OMO AJOKUTAMOMUMI(so strong that even if he eats stone, will not drink water).

I have defended Hausas, Yorubas and Ibos on this NL in recent past, despite being a Yoruba(and proud to be). Just purely out of what I considered objective, not because of association. For example, I have advanced arguments(just my opinion, not necessarily correct)on NL that Ibos has churned out more World Class Nigerians than any other tribe. The threads YORUBA MAN CAUGHT WITH HUMAN HEADS and WHO COULD THIS NORTHERN THIEF BE? are other threads I detest.

See story:

http://mtnfootball.com/live/content.php?Item_ID=16539

I see this as pride. Poor football administration is almost everywhere in Africa. It's just sacrifice he has to make. Weah singlehanded funded Liberian national team.
If Adebayor was just struggling to make a name for himself, maybe he was playing in Israel or Malta, will he have done that? I believe this stardom is getting into his head. Recall McCarty too, at the peak of his stardom, used to have problem with SAFA. Mikel too appears to be treading this part.

By the way, is Adebayor more star than Kanu? Kanu was (and maybe still) always ready for Nigerian national team assignments, even though I doubt if Togo FA can be more disorganized than NFA.

I just see it as another Initial Gra Gra, like Wigan did when they also came. They will soon settle for their place in 10-15 category this season, and battle relegation in subsequent seasons.

Ibime:
Henrik Larsson Nani


Manuel Fernandes Patrick Vieira Gelson Fernandes Nelson


Ricardo Faty Jorge Andrade Jacques Faty Miguel


Jose Veiga



Who can tell me the link without consulting wikipedia?

For Cape Verde to have produced these players for other countries, I expect them to have a decent(at least average) national team in the class of Senegal or Algeria. Senegal and Algeria have also produced great players that have played for France and other European countries, but their national teams is still decent, at least compared to Cape Verde, which is not even a CLASS C team in African football, if we put CIV,NGR,EGYPT,GHA,CAM in CLASS A etc.

What's wrong with that country?

whimsical:
Na wa for U na. What happened to



Messi Cech


Messi Bosingwa Messi Ferdinand Messi Terry Messi Clichy


Messi Gerrard Messi Mikel Messi Cesc


Messi Ronald Messi Torress Messi Kaka


Coach: Messi Amodu
Asst: Messi Wenger



Make Una let me know if Una want more best xi.

Wetin be dis. A no understand o. Funny man

DeepZone:
How do we end this cold civil war among Nigerians called operation tribalism? It has dawned on me that tribalism is the major cause of disintegration and backwardness in Africa. Ibo is on yorubas neck, yoruba is on ibos neck, hausa is on yorubas neck, ibo is on hausas neck etc.

What are your suggestions because I thought that the younger generation of Nigerians see through the mist more than the older ones whose thoughts are beclouded by tribalism but my fear is that from my observation in Nairaland, it's even getting worse. A foreigner is more welcomed in Nigeria than fellow Nigerian. Why?

Fellow country men and women, what steps should we take to end this war both in Nairaland and outside this site?

Suggestions please.

Deepzone don born-again.

Solution to the problem? Let's start from the micro level, from Nairaland here. Let's ask that moderator delete topics that definitely have tribal-bashing undertone like:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-174668.0.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-179357.0.html

Cristalz:
@ife

Paddy is another variation of Patrick. . .

As for Pato. . .thats the Brazilian version of Patrick

OK Thanks.

Kai, it's past 10,I'm still in Office, on a Sunday for that matter. Make I shut down oooooooooo

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=179323.msg2898561#msg2898561 date=1223240603]Your team??
Cristalz team would whup ya team.[/quote]What do you guys think should be used to judge? Strenght of the team or creativity of the team developer? A combination of both, i think should be used, but more weight to creativity than team strenght.

mukina2:
[b]T[/b]oldo Francesco

[b]T[/b]huram Lilian [b]T[/b]erry John [b]T[/b]oure Kolo [b]T[/b]aiwo Taiye


[b]T[/b]omas Rosicky [b]T[/b]aigo Mendes [b]T[/b]oure Yaya [b]T[/b]otti Francesco


[b]T[/b]orres Fernando [b]T[/b]oni Luca


[b]T[/b]erika Abou
[b]T[/b]I'm Cahill
[b]T[/b]rezeguet David
[b]T[/b]aylor Martin
[b]T[/b]I'm Howard

Manager
[b]T[/b]rapattoni Giovanni

Assistant
_Mukinat_u

Mukina, nice attempt

Can we have something like
BEST 11 PLAYERS WHO NEVER WENT TO WORLD CUP
BEST 11 PLAYERS WITH MOST RED CARDS (Viera, Keane etc)
BEST 11 PLAYERS CHARGED WITH SEXUAL OFFENCE AT ONE TIME OR THE OTHER( Babayaro, C Ronaldo, De Lima Ronaldo, Ronaldinho etc)

Can someone think along that line?

Best free transfer XI only using players who's last transfer from one club to another was free, all these players were transferred within the last 5 years.


___________Schwarzer__________

Grygera__Ujfalusi___Alex____Aurelio

____________Makelele___________

Kewell___Ballack___Flamini___Pires

____________Tuncay___________

Subs: Dudek, Edmilson, Maxwell, Hamit Altintop, Ze Roberto, Salihamidzic, Voronin.

Best XI for family feud: they played for different NT as their relatives(all republics of Yugoslavia, Czechoslavakia, USSR, East Germany & West Germany counted as the same "country"


3-4-3
GK: Mike Walker(Ian Walker's father who palyed for Wales. Ian Walker was capped by England)

DF:William Gallas(his cousin played for Guadaloupe.
DF:Mike Pejic(for England in the 1970's, his nephew Shaun capped by Wales U-20)
DF: Jóhannes Eðvaldsson(Iceland, his father played for Estonia)


DMF: Julián de Guzmán(Canada)
MF: Jonathan de Guzmán(brother for Julian capped by Holland U-23)
MF: David Rocastle(David has a cousin named Craig who played for Greneda)
MF: John Kerr, Sr.(for Canada in the 1970's, John Jr. played for the US)

FW: Miroslav Klose(his father played for Poland)
FW: Alecko Eskandarian(USA, but father Andranik played for Iran)
FW: Max Vieri (capped by Australia and the brother of Christian).

PS: No be me do am o. I go copy am for the American sports forum I belong

oya, those of us wey no fit disturb our brain or wey no sabi football enough to create interesting teams, let's begin to vote. Which of the teams so far do you find most creative? This is for us spectactors.

I would have voted for this if not for the boldened parts. A complete PATRICKS would have shown more ingenuity.

Cristalz:
Paddy Kenny



Patrick Noubissie Patrick Muller Patrick Kanyuka Patrice Evra



Patrick Suffo Patrick Paauwe Patrick Berger Pato



Patrick Kluivert Patrick Mboma


Manager(upgraded ) : Patrick Rice

dayokanu:
Van der Saar

Van Der Meyde Van Bommel Van Buyten Van Bronchorst



van Hooijdonk Van Der Vaart Van Vossen Van Persie


Van Nistelrooy, Van Basten


Coach Van Gaal assisted by Van Marwijk

Dayokanu, you are too much. I have always respected you. In fact when I wanted to start the thread, I wanted to end it with " oya dayokanu and others, this is a big test for you". But I decided not to mention any name.

You have again shown your class as an incisive and informed football follower.
I doff my hat!!!

Oya, others let's see how creative you are!!!

kingandrew:
SOCCER star Nwankwo Kanu has had three flash cars seized by bailiffs acting for the taxman.
And the striker, [b]whose goal put Premiership side Portsmouth into next month’s FA Cup final, has until August 31 to pay off a £2.8million overdraft [/b]or his mansion could be repossessed.
A Mercedes and two Audis were up for auction on Thursday and a £170,000 Ferrari may also be seized from 31-year-old Kanu – who is paid £45,000 A WEEK.
The auction price of the Mercedes, which cost him £25,000, was £8,300 – while the Audis, bought for a total of £50,000, were on offer at £19,100. A spokesman for Plaistow Auctions, East London, said: “Only one of the sales actually went through. The two unsold cars may go for auction again.”
Luxury , but Kanu's £2.8million mansion may be repossessed
Details of the Nigerian international’s chaotic money management are contained in a High Court writ issued by the Royal Bank of Scotland. The ex-Arsenal player was granted a ten-year overdraft of £2.8million in September 2004 to buy the mansion on an acre of land in Barnet, North London.
He agreed to put his net monthly income into his One account, pay £280,000 a year to reduce the overdraft and take out buildings insurance worth £2.8million.
But the RBS claimed he breached the mortgage deal by failing to keep the property in good condition or properly insured.
He also neglected to pay his monthly income into his bank account and exceeded his overdraft by £92,844.49 in September 2005.
On July 27, 2005, the bank demanded repayment of £2,885,353.39.
On March 28 a judge ordered Kanu to make a £100,000 downpayment. He must pay his entire debt by August, or the bank can reactivate its claim on the house, now valued at £4million.
Last night Kanu’s lawyer insisted the bank issue had been “resolved to their mutual satisfaction”. And he said a High Court injunction prevented the sale of any of the cars.

Where did you exhume this stale news?

Hello guys and gals,

Here is a test of creativity of NL sports analysts.

Creatively form an interesting team of Best 11, using any interesting relationship/criteria:

Here are samples:
SAMPLE 1
R[/b]onald Reagan 's Best XI

GK:[b] R[/b]onald Waterreus(Holland & NY Red Bulls)
DF: [b]R[/b]onaldão(Brazil & WC 94)
DF: [b]R[/b]onald Koeman(Holland)
DF: [b]R[/b]onald Arana(Bolivia)
DF: [b]R[/b]onaldo Guiaro(Brazil & Olympic 1996)
DMF:[b]R[/b]onnie Whelan(Liverpool)
MF: [b]R[/b]onald de Boer(Holland)
RW: [b]R[/b]onaldo(Man Utd & Portugal)
LW: [b]R[/b]onaldinho(AC Mialn & Brazil)
FW: [b]R[/b]onaldo(Brazil )
FW: [b]R[/b]onald Cerritos(El Salvador)

INTERESTING PART: R starts their names
[b]SAMPLE 2

-----------------------P.Cannavaro-----------------------
----------Rio Ferdinand-A.Ferdinand-F.Cannavaro-----------
-F.De Boer--------------------------------------J.Charlton-
----------------B.Charlton---------------R.De Boer---------
------------------D.Drogba-----------J.Drogba-------------

INTERESTING PART: The team is made up of brothers

SAMPLE 3:

----------------------- Carlos Kameni (CAM) -------------------------
------ Daniel Agger (DEN) --- Per Mertesacker (GER) ------
Nigel de Jong (HOL) -------------------- Giorgio Chiellini (ITA)
-------------------- Javier Mascherano (ARG) -----------------------
----- Andrés Iniesta (SPA) --- Wesley Sneijder (HOL) ------
Carlos Tévez (ARG) ------------------------------ Robinho (BRA)
---------------------- Fernando Torres (SPA) -------------------------

Substitutes: Juan Pablo Carrizo (ARG); Martin Skrtel (SVK), Thiago Silva (BRA), Jorge Fucile (URU); Sulley Muntari (GHA), Mathieu Flamini (FRA), Alberto Aquilani (ITA), Bastian Schweinsteiger (GER), Arjen Robben (HOL); Jefferson Farfán (PER), Paolo Guerrero (PER), Emmanuel Adebayor (TOG).

INTERESTING PART: All born in 1984

SAMPLE 4: Best XI (first name - Philip and variations)

Filip de Wilde

Philippe Albert - Philippe Senderos - Philip Neville - Philippe Mexes

Philippe Desmet - Philip Cocu - Philipp Lahm - Philip Mulryne

Filippo Inzaghi - Felipe Caicedo

PS: The discussion actually started in an American soccer forum I abelong, but I found it worthy of discussing on NL as well.


OYA, LET'S SEE HOW CREATIVE YOU ARE:

http://sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2008/oct/05/national-05-10-2008-002.htm


Rejoinder
Re: Nigerian Envoy fight at Gala night of Sept 28
By Sun News Publishing
Sunday, October 5, 2008

* More Stories on This Section

My attention has been drawn to your story, "Nigerian Envoy Fight at a Gala Dinner" dated 28/9. With all due respect to your paper which I held in high esteem, I should have expected your paper to check the veracity of this very damaging story before you went to the press.

In this era when we are all collectively repositioning Nigeria no envoy worth his salt would be involved in the acts described in your story under referene at a function his Minister of State, the Executive Governor of Plateau State, many host ministers, Ambassadors from many countries, Permanent Secretaries, Director General of Technical Aid Corps of Nigeria, Ambassador Mamman Daura and his officials as well as many professors and lecturers from Nigeria were invited to the dinner by the Envoy.

The fact was that to honour the Minister of State II, Ambassador Bagudu Hirse and the Executive Governor of Plateau State, His Excellency David Jang as well to celebrate the resuscitation of the Nigeria/Namibia Joint Commission which has been dormant since 2000 an arrangement was made for a dinner and some very important people were invited. The last included the peoplementioned above. The Executives of the Association of Nigerians in Namibia (ANINAM), the Nigeria in Diaspora Organisation and those of Nigeria/Namibia Friendship Association were invited.

Mr. David Adetuna who is the Public Relations Officer of ANINAM was invited. He came with two other people to this sit down dinner. This created problems of sitting arrangement for Mr. Ogunbiyi and the other person that also came with him were politely asked to move to another dinning room in the hotel and that the High Commission will pay for their meal. They refused and walked away inspite of my plea. The next thing the Mission heard was the telephone call from a gutter newspaper here called Informante. The story of the Informante was now produced by your paper without checking with me. Mr. Ogunbiyi sent a rebuttal withdrawing his story and deposited same to the police and apologised to me.

Mr. Adetona also withdrew his story. Their letters and the accounts of the event as recorded by my officers who were present are attached for your information and publication in the conspicuous manner you gave to their story. It is sad that while all efforts are being deployed to implement the Citizen Diplomacy of the present administration by my Mission, the reward one is getting is slander and character assassination by some Nigerians who are possibly not happy with the positive improvement in Nigeria/Namibia relation since I resumed my watch here in Windhoek. I have since my arrival launched the Nigerian chapter of Nigeria in Diaspora Organisation (NIDO) in Namibia as well as Nigeria/Namibia Friendship Association and have assisted the Aasociation of Nigeria in Namibia with funds to bring them together. The Mission has good working relations with the Nigerian community and in fact many of them have written to commend us. Please see the attached.

Like I have assured the Elders of the Nigerian community here who came pleading on behalf of these people and asking for my forgiveness, these gentlemen will continue to receive all assistance and protection from my Mission because they are Nigerians, the most important resource of our country. Indeed Mr. Adetona has been invited to the forthcoming October 1, Independence celebration.
I should however state that I and my staff did not engage anybody in any physical assault. I have not also spoken to any Sun reporter or staff on this story before the publication as was wrongly alleged in your publication. It would be necessary to do the urgent and important thing now by publishing this my letter and the attachment to clear my image in the eye of Nigerians and the government that sent me to Namibia.

I leave all this matter in the hands of the Almighty.

•Ambassador (Prince) Adegboyega Christopher Ariyo,
High Commissioner, Nigeria High Commission, Windhoek, Namibia.
Editor’s note
We have since discovered that our story, ‘Diplomatic Shame’ published in September 28 edition of Sunday Sun was grossly exaggerated. We therefore regret any embarrassment the earlier story may have caused the esteemed Nigerian envoy to Namibia. We meant no harm.

Isokuso wo lenso nibi. Abi e ti fagbo yo ni!!!!

[quote author=nigeria1@/ link=topic=178671.msg2889915#msg2889915 date=1223052722]you people are just tribalist, give it to the oldman awolowo was the best.[/quote]Count me out.
Awo built the university I finished from.
My father is a core Awoist.
I'm a Yoruba.

I just don't agree Awo was Nigeria's best leader. Zik and Herbert Macaulay will do for me.

I disagree. Zik or Herbert Macaulay will do for me.
Awo too self-centred for my liking. Imagine, wanting to eat his cake and have it. Giving premiership of western region to Akintola, and wanting to take it back after losing at the central.

The guy Zaki has been fantastic no doubt, but I don't see him giving Adebayor any serious challenge. Adebayor has it.

I have been seeing this topic for some days but I decided not to contribute, as I see it as another version of the ubiquitous ethnic jingoism that is fast becoming the hallmark of Nairaland.

However, if objectively done, I don't think there is anything wrong in commenting on which is the most educated tribe in Nigeria, inasmuch as abusive words are not used.

In this light here is my take on this topic, based on experience, observations and facts I know:

1. Yoruba are the most educated people in Nigeria closely followed by Igbo. My sole criteria here is percentage that are schooled, and got to higher academic levels.
2, Hausa are also coming up. With the current trend, they may close the gap in the next 50 years. But definitely can't overtake Yoruba.
3, Despite the fact that more Yoruba are schooled than Igbo, Igbo today matches, if not ahead of, Yoruba in terms of world-class scholars.
Igbo seems to be producing more World-class scholars than Yoruba in recent times. In the literary world for example, Soyinka is more world-class than any other Nigerian, but if we give Soyinka first position, the next 3 or 4 positions will be taken by Igbos in Achebe, Ekwensi etc. Honourable mention to the north's Abubakar Gimba.
In Economics, the nation's finests are also Igbo in Soludo,Okonjo Iweala,ezekweli etc, although Yorubaman Sam Aluko was the reference point in Economic scholarship in the 70's through 80's. Today, Igbos rule.

What of Emegwali? Do Yorubas have a match for him? Chimamanda, much as I hate her, is another rep for Igbo.

So let me conclude by saying while Yoruba value education more than any other tribe and are ready to spend their last penny to get their children educated, head to head Igbo beats any other tribe in terms of world class brains.

PS: I'm a proud but detribalized Yoruba. But I don't let tribal sentiments override my analysis. Most times, I've had to defend the Hausas on NL , not because I'm one of them but because most of their critics, Deepzone and Queenisha in particular, do so without objectivity.

1, Adebayor
2, Muntari
3, Yakubu

Rice and gari

Saanu uku my Fulani in-laws.

My Fiancee(Aisha Larai) is Fulani. She originates from Sokoto state but based in Niger state.
I'm Yoruba though.

Dadandinrin

DeepZone:
Sallah: Group berates N3m bonus for each Rep

By Bisi Olaniyi, Ado-Ekiti


The Ekiti Democratic Coalition Alliance has berated the members of the House of Representatives over the N3m each of them allegedly collected as Eid-el-fitri bonus.





EDCA, in a statement in Ado-Ekiti on Monday by its National Coordinator, Mr. Morakinyo Ogele, said the largesse was another ploy to impoverish the masses.

The group asked the lawmakers to return the Sallah bonus to the treasury or face recall from their various constituencies.

It, however, commended the senators for not collecting the money. The group advised the anti-corruption commissions to immediately probe the payment.

EDCA also described the bonus as an insult to the intelligence of Nigerians, after the lawmakers had earlier “awarded themselves jumbo wardrobe, car, constituency, stationery and other allowances on assumption of office.”

It noted that it was unfortunate that each senator had been taking home not less than N20m monthly, with each member of the House, collecting N12m every month.

EDCA said, “These people in the House of Representatives are rich enough to take from their legitimate income to celebrate Eid-el-Fitri or any other religious festival.

“Religion is a personal matter. State fund that is supposed to be used to cater for the welfare of the masses, should not be wasted on the celebration of a religious festival.”

http://odili.net/news/source/2008/sep/30/403.html

Reps collecting N3million each as Sallah bonus is definitely wrong and condemnable. In a country populated by suffering masses like ours, this is uncharitable.

Ibime:
WTF is this?

I have noticed the sudden 'Nationalisation' of Islamic festivals since Yar'Adua became President.

State Governments are spending their budgets on sending people on Hajj. . . .House of Reps giving Eid bonuses to members. . . .not to talk of all the other Government schemes to allow pilgrims go to Mecca that I can't remember. . . . . Is Islam being socialised?. . . . Need I remind all that this money comes from the blood of Niger Delta and the sweat of taxpayers. . . . this is unacceptable!

WTF?

BABANLA IRO!

It's been like that since Obasanjo days. Remember public holiday for Maolud Nabiyy(Prophet Muhammed's birthday) started during Obasanjo's tenure!!

DeepZone:
[size=14pt]TRUE TALK.[/size]

Deepzone abi? No comment!!!

DeepZone:
What will they be probably discussing? How to raise more malu and increase their share of crude oil money? Have you noticed how the north is desperate to rope Gambari in as a Northerner?

Na wa for you. Abeg, what this these people did for you? Why not leave them alone and let them discuss their progress. It is people like you that have kept accusing them of being parasitic of the South. You have for so long accused them of being a lazy, dependent set of people.Now, they are charting a course towards economic progress, and you are throwing tantrums at them again. Deepzone,what is your problem,pls?

PS: Gambari is from Kwara, classified as a northern state. He is therefore a northerner. Please not all northerners are Hausa. Dr. Tunji Olagunju, SA to Yar'adua on NEPAD is also from Kwara, therefore qualifies to be called a northerner, just as I'm also a northerner, despite being a Yoruba.

Saannu jamaah hausawa nairaland. Yaya de, yaya aiki, yaya arkoki?

Yoowa,


An ex-Sokoto corper in the house!!!

DeepZone:
See who is talking. You are a religious bigot that is always looking for a way to paint christians black. yes, i said it.

I don't paste Christians black, I defend Islam when the likes of you and Queenisha, scavenge the news sites daily, for negative stories on Muslims and come to dump such in NL.
I need not castigate Christians to defend my religion. Bring a thread I've started to paint Christians black.

I have never come across an ethnic/religious chauvinist like you before. The most unfortunate part is that you have a very shallow command of history, yet you parade yourself as an analyst. Critics usually have strong analytical skills and are versed enough to bring convincing facts to butress their criticisms, but you are far from this. I have come across many of your posts and you are always goofing, raping facts and history even a primary school pupil will know.

My name is Tunji(Muslim name=Suraj).
My Dad is from Offa,Kwara and my mum from Iwo,Osun.
I learnt our ancestors are from Ikotun, a village in Kwara.