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Arosa, I just want to clarify that I am not here to belittle the Bini or Yoruba. These question are purely for educational purposes. |
Arosa: 1)Oduduwa was already a king in Ile'ife and had established his own dynasty there. His Children ancestral home was Ile'ife. also the heads that you are talking about are not real head they are works of art by Benin crafts men.Thanks for the reply. Okay, forget the olokun stuff. What about the rest? "Iyoba"? What does it mean in Bini? Even the Olokun, what does it mean in Bini? With my little Yoruba, I can tell that Iyoba means mother of the king and Olokun mean owner or dweller of the ocean. These are the literal meanings in Yoruba. Can I know the literal meaning in Bini? |
felifeli: Probably right ... but;N300m will buy 2Megawatt of wind energy (that is more than 10 times the project output) .. or roughly same power output for solar energy.. installed and working. They are all RENEWABLE sources.I totally agree. This was my first comment: jason123: If true, then I can't help but commend Osun state. . . .at least, that's another 15 kW off the national grid FOREVER (renewable energy). [size=13pt]Although, I must say its too expensive for 15 kW! Naija politicians![/size] |
Beaf: If you don't know what 15kw means (or that the project concerned belongs to the FG) and decide to make an O-Fool of yourself as loudly as possible, whose fault is it?O'boy, you are in the same category as the person you are O-insulting, Gbawe; government propagandists. The only difference is that Gbawe is a civilized gentle man while you command respect among the bigots like Willy-willy and co. As for the insults, I am bigger than that childish trash. "Fool", "olodo" etc are as childish as you anyone can get. You lack manners and that's to say the least. Don't bother replying me with your silly insults and pictures. Really, its immature. Again, its on the high side, I never disputed that. However, at least, something is done. Other state governors are doing nothing. In as much as there is no excuse for the price, I am of the opinion of half a bread is better than none! Some other state governors will do nothing as steal twice as much!!! |
shymmex: [s][/s]Small boy, you dey hia! ![]() As far as I am concerned, Itsekiri is Itsekiri, Ijebu is Ijebu! Your yarns happened many years back so I say again, welcome to 2012! Ode! |
Beaf: A single portable gen can convincingly output 15kw.You've started, abi?! Nevertheless, if not for the cost and probably the propaganda laced news agency (you do the same anyway ), you can't fault any form of renewable energy. At least, they are helping in their own little way. Most states simply sit down and do nothing. |
PhysicsQED and Arosa, I have always been of the opinion that the Bini empire was great and Bini and Oyo were[b] independent but intertwined empires[/b]. Also, the Oba of Bini's story is more believable than the Oduduwa story. Nevertheless, I'll appreciate it if you can answer these questions: 1) If Oduduwa was Bini, how come the Oba of Binis' heads were buried in Ile-Ife? 2) If Oduduwa was Bini, how come the Bini's adopted Yoruba named gods like Ogun, Olokun etc and not the other way round? Even to the extent of calling the mother of the Oba, "Iyoba"? 3) How come the throne is now called Oba not Ogiso?! Thanks in advance! |
felifeli: One thing that is definitely wrong with is the cost sir.I agree! I also had a problem with the cost. |
Funkymallam: Drop that crack u r on, it still too early.I agree that its too expensive, that was one of the first sentences I typed down! However, it is a known fact that all forms of renewable energy are expensive to start up. There are other links apart from osun defenders. I don't read such papers. jason123: http://naseni.org/programme/energy/shp.html |
Awhy.com:The point is, why is this considered as a bad thing?! |
Rad1cal: O-really, are you O-trying to O-inform us that O-sun is O-trying very O-hard to O-inject O-15kW into our national gridI will not insult you. . . you've already done that to yourself. As you said, 5.5 kW gen, don't you have to buy a form of fossil fuel to power it? At the end of the day, you bought the gen, pay to power it and it will probably last for 10 yrs max before you buy another apart from the unnecessary noise and fumes. On the flip side, you can pay for this once and get it off your budget (except maintenance but you do that to your gen anyway). Again, can any intelligent person tell me how the generation of 15 kW is bad?! Am I missing something?! How do we think in this country for heaven's sake?! ![]() |
I just don't get it. Are we deliberately trying to be stu.pid?! Even if its 1 kW, it is a good thing and should be encourage not bashed?! Or am I missing something?! |
Funkymallam: Dnt mind d O-latecomer, nw that O-Gbawe has been sent on O-nairaland exile, the O- fellow is trying to save his O-arseeee.And can you tell me how 15 kW renewable energy is bad?! I am not saving anyone. Just try to prove your intelligence by tell us how a 15 kW from a renewable energy source is bad?! |
Awhy.com:I actually did my own little research. http://naseni.org/programme/energy/shp.html http://allafrica.com/stories/201205070834.html http://www.businessdayonline.com/NG/index.php/power/37373-osun-spends-n300m-on-hydro-power-project And I said IF TRUE! I don't care if you are from Osun or not. . .If true, certainly its a good thing. No matter how hard we try to spin it. C'mon, that 15 kW off our national grid. How can that be bad?! ![]() Try to give something back to the country and reduce dependence on oil energy |
Rad1cal: O-ediot ni, coming in quite late to salvage O-Gbawe O-power O- liesO-de ni e ! Can you tell us what your state has given back to Nigeria?! Just one thing please!I am not salvaging anyone. I don't care about political propaganda. It is common sense, really! They are contributing in their own little way to the National grid (FOREVER), what has your state done to help her citizens or do your politicians simply collect oil pocket money for the sake of being elected?! |
Nice pics! May God make it possible! ![]() |
If true, then I can't help but commend Osun state. . . .at least, that's another 15 kW off the national grid FOREVER (renewable energy). Although, I must say its too expensive for 15 kW! Naija politicians! That aside, this O- stuff is hilarious!!! ![]() Awhy.com:Can you please tell us what your state puts back to the Nation?! If every state has one or two of such project, I am sure our power problem would have been half solved! |
Nice! Hopefully, it will be done! |
Ejiné: O'Yes, O'Reap, O'Meal and now O'Power? ![]() |
The Guardian March 31, 2012 The Managing Director Interview with Punch Newspaper The Managing Director, South Energyx, promoters of the Eko Atlantic City Project, Mr. David Frame, says investor confidence is gradually returning to Nigeria, as he shares his dreams on the 21st Century city, which is bound to change the socio-economic landscape of the state as a whole. He spoke to Adeola Balogun Dated March 31st, 2012 Having been in Nigeria for a long time, would you say the Nigerian environment is attractive to foreign investors? It is well known worldwide that there has been a financial crisis and many governments are cutting back on expenditure. Indeed, many projects around the world have been stalled. Financial institutions still have plans to find potential investment opportunities, which are few and far between in Europe, America and even the Far East at this current time. So, as a potential for investment, Africa as a continent, is very much in focus right now. The Gross Domestic Product of Nigeria in the next five years and beyond is in positive territory; between seven and eight percent, whereas America, the United Kingdom and Europe are in negative territory, like one per cent growth. So, equity investors, who are looking for potential for growth, are looking closely at Africa, and Nigeria is the golden bowl. With democracy thriving in Nigeria, investors see the country as a safe haven for investment and this has been shown in many discussions I have had with people in the real estate and financial sector. What of insecurity problem? I have been living in Nigeria for 30 years. When I first arrived in Lagos, I checked to find out what the situation was, against the background of seeing the West African region as a security risk. But what I found out did not back that up. And I tell this to a lot of people I meet in Europe. I tell them,'Come to Lagos in particular.'The general level of security in Lagos has improved significantly in the past six years and incidences of armed robbery in banks have reduced. That, for me, is an indication of the level of improvement of security generally, and this is something we should be proud of. I attended a conference two weeks ago in France, in attendance were 50 equity investing agents; people who work for clients that want to pursue potential investment opportunities. They were all very excited about Lagos and our project. What was quite interesting was the extent to which our project is known internationally; most operatives in the financial sector are following the project closely. That is a positive element for the development of Lagos, establishing Lagos further as the financial capital of the continent of Africa. So, there is a lot of enthusiasm for what is happening in Lagos, and in addition to that, I discovered that more and more expatriate Nigerians are now coming back. That, to me, is an indication of renewed confidence in Nigeria. How would project, like Eko Atlantic City that you are managing, fare in the face of power failure in Nigeria? The concept is that we will have an independent power facility tied with the provision of gas and we are talking to the authorities on a regular basis. What we do know is that with the existing gas availability, we are able to provide sufficient gas for the early stages of the project. But there are future plans to extend the pipelines, which are supplying the gas from the Delta and what we understand is that there will be more sufficient gas supply to meet the demand of the whole Eko Atlantic. Is it not possible to try hydro-electrical system? We are looking at alternative power supply but I think it is fairly true to say that these technologies are at the early stages of development. We know that there is potential to annex power from the ocean but we have to look at it from the commercial point of view. We know that we can generate power from the ocean using turbine but it would never be in a situation as the technology available at the moment to provide all our power needs, though it can be considered as a supplementary means of power supply. How did you come about the idea of Eko Atlantic project? When the project started, it was really a response to a request from the then Lagos State Governor, Mr. Bola Tinubu, at the time. He was concerned that there was a rapid erosion of the Bar beach, and we made an effort to replenish the beach. However, we were not keeping up with the pace of erosion, it was sweeping closer and closer. And over the decades, the ocean had reached the border of Ahmadu Bello Way that had partially collapsed into the sea. This was obviously a severe threat to the very existence of Victoria Island. The governor was concerned that he wanted to find a permanent solution to the erosion of the Bar Beach and the threat to Victoria Island. It was in 2003 that he approached us, asking us to study the problem and come forward with some solutions. During the course of the study, we discovered a number of things; one of which was that the highest elevation in Victoria Island was actually on Ahmadu Bello Way, and Akin Adesola. Had the sea been allowed to completely remove Ahmadu Bello Way, the whole of Victoria Island would have been in danger. In December of 2005, the initial stages of a permanent solution were initiated and the shoreline protection, as you see today, was constructed in 2006 through 2008. But in further developing the idea, we also discovered that the original coastline of Bar Beach was actually two-and-a-half kilometers further out to the sea, and the consultant told us that if we were to construct the wall on the original coastline, it would go a long way to mitigate the course of the erosion. Then, the whole concept fell into place; we'd put the sea wall on the original coastline as much as we can determine. We would then fill up all that area that was lost to erosion and because it was on the edge of the existing commercial area of Victoria Island. It naturally because a viable extension of the reclaimed land, which subsequently opened up the prospect of building a new 21st Century city. What would be the effect of the sand filling you are talking about in the area? It is there to protect not just the land that is being reclaimed; it also protects Victoria Island. And as the consultant told us, by following the existing coastline of 105 years ago, the effect of the ocean current, which has been causing the erosion, would be mitigated to a great extent. Ahmadu Bello Way has remained intact since the construction of the shoreline protection in 2006. What is the model of the 21st Century city called Eko Atlantic you intend to put up here? We have a master plan as you can see here; obviously we are improving on that. That is the master plan of the city. That is a fair indication of what the city life would be. It is designed by consultants of international repute; these are consultants that have been involved in similar projects in the Middle East, Quarter and Australia. We are building a city of International standard and it would stand a test of time. What is the timeline as regards the sand filling (and the construction proper) of the place? The programme is to complete the sand-filling exercise and the construction of the sea wall by the end of the year 2015. Infrastructure, like roads, electricity and sewage system will be completed in 18 months after that; that is 2017. The development of the buildings is for individual investors. We are not building the structures; our own is just to provide the infrastructure, like the utility system that would all be underground. We have a detailed planning regulation booklet, which we'll give the investors as a guideline on what they can build; how much of the plot they can use for a structure; how far the setback from the main roads would be; and how many parking spaces they need to provide for their cars. This is a big issue; anybody who has lived in Lagos will understand what we are talking about. So, it is the requirement of any developer to provide sufficient parking facility within the plots. There will be no parking allowed on the street. |
amosy007: THE Ogun State governor, Senator Ibikunle Amosun, has disclosed that five refineries have been approved by the Federal Government for the state. gbogboti: |
onye_ngbu*:Nothing wrong with it now. The thread was derail by Onlytruth. As far as my family is concerned, they stay in Lagos (even though they are from Delta) hence, they are Lagosians! If there is a split as onlytruth suggested, I'll advise them to relocate if the locals are hostile! Onlytruth: So, should Nigeria disintegrate, nothing short of full indigenship for those land owners would suffice or be acceptable. |
Gbawe: Let me ask you a question. What can be worse than what we have now i.e a police force failing the entire Nation badly and also overtly being used partisanly as an arm of the PDP?Yes Mr. Gbawe, it will be worse. Politics is local especially the SS and SW politics. I can't imagine state policing with Tinubu or Ibori or Sylva or Anenih there. It does not take an Einstein to know that such powers in the hands of certain people would mean death to opposition politics. This is a risk most Nigerians are unwilling to take. Nigerians are not yet mature to handle such. |
1025: how many nigeria has in all that fg is approving 5 for ogun state? if we have a man whose real life is that of Mr.ibu in a movie, i think he will do better a president of this jungle.You have some serious beef with GEJ mehn . . . ![]() |
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