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Chyz*:
You are funny. Win ondo call themselves olukumi? Who told you that that name was not given to them? lol. They are also called oluku mu. Since you now know how to speak Igbo tell me what that means?

They are Igbos,period. They are in Igboland as well. Thank you.

And yes, the Obi never said he is yoruba.

You are unserious. The Obi said where his people are from. Why are you saying they are Igbo (although the Igbos have greatly influenced their culture ) when they are not? What Igbo land? Are you high? Well, whatever mehn. . . .

The bread sweet no be small. See people over bread

alj_harem:
Write up is rubbish because someone said yoruba community in delta state ?

What a shame.

That's the thing! Isn't it sad?

Chyz*:
Where did he say he is yoruba? I'm still waiting.

He does not need to say it. Its called an implicit message. But one thing is certain, they are not Igbos and are trying their best to preserve their Olukumi-Owo culture. Olukumi means nothing in Igbo but means my friend in Yoruba. Go figure.

The day a sovereign national conference happen in Nigeria (a honest one), that will be the day people will know the truth.

I'm done.

Chyz*:
The Obi never said he is yoruba. And yes Mr. Isinyemeze is Igbo. Because of his first name he is now a yoruba? Are you going to then tell Segun Arinze of Nollywood that he is no longer Igbo because he has a yoruba first name? Funny people.

Well, the Obi, Mr Isinyemeze said this:

Oluku mi is a dialect of the Yoruba. . . .


Interestingly, practically everybody here speaks Igbo but as our second language

I am an Oluku mi man and I am proud of my language. I am not happy that Igbo language is infiltrating our language. We are trying our best to correct the situation and part of that is what my brother (the Oloza) is doing by organising an Oluku mi reciting competition . . . .

You are the funny one.
The Obi has spoken but as I said earlier, it's like you know more than the Obi of Ugbodu himself.

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Name: Little City Development
City: Abuja
Use: Masterplan
Status: Proposed
Consultants: JAMM

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This brand new development on the outskirts of Abuja, Nigeria will include 11,217 quality new homes on 423 ha of greenfield land set within a sustainable development framework. The mixed-use site will include a soccer academy, golf course, health clinic, schools, business centres, supermarkets, quality open space utilising the river which bisects the site, it is anticipated to have 6-8 year build programme.

JAMM is responsible for management of the development process including site acquisition, contract documentation and negotiation of the JV Agreement with the Nigerian Government. As project managers we are responsible for the design delivery, coordination of the design team and liaison with the client team. Once the site works commence we will monitor and supervise site activities and report to the Special Purpose Vehicle on progress and contractual issues.


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Dec 18, 2011 - Lagos State Governor, Mr. Babatunde Raji Fashola (SAN), Sunday inspected the state of work at the 1.35 kilometre Lekki-Ikoyi Link Bridge which is currently at 80 percent completion.

The first of its kind Cable Stay Bridge, with Pylons that will be 90 metres high, which will connect Admiralty Way in Lekki to the Osborne Road end in Ikoyi, is conceptualized to ease traffic at the corridor and make travelling between the two high-brow communities easier.

It is being handled by Julius Berger, one of the leading construction giants in the country, whose Project Manager, Mr. Christian Moessman, led the Governor and his entourage to walk through the project. Other top officials of Julius Berger present were the Division Manager Mr. Wolfgang Loesser, Operations Manager, Mr. Thomas Haag and Contract Co-ordinator, Engineer Nath Ikem.

The Governor had earlier, in company of his Works and Infrastructure Commissioner, Dr. Femi Hamzat, Special Adviser on Works and Infrastructure, Engineer Ganiyu Johnson, Special Adviser, Private Public Participation (PPP), Mr. Ayo Gbeleyi and Commissioner for Information and Strategy, Mr. Lateef Ibirogba, inspected the Lekki-Epe Toll Plaza 2 and the on-going alternative road that will run through Chevron Road to the back of Olorunshola Estate and back on the Expressway.

He expressed satisfaction at the quality of work done on the road which is at 50 percent completion and was certain that government would expedite action on its completion.

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It appears as if Chyz knows more than the Oloza (Obi) of Ugbodu, Ayo Isinyemeze . The Obi said he is Yorubas but as assimilated Igbo culture, Chyz is saying he is Igbo.

Just wonderful!

Abagworo:
I was the 1st to post this story. The truth is that the post civil war trauma has persisted and is still being fueled by non-Igbos. Many Yorubas have Igbo roots, Many Esans have Igbo roots, Many Igbos have Benin roots, many Urhobos have Igbo roots, most of the people called Ijaws in Rivers State have Igbo roots and still retain pure Igbo language as their only language.

All these claims I made above have oral and documented history. There is however a pattern when it comes to Igbo, there seems to be a movement to alienate some Igbos from others with a presumed reason of origin. No ethnic group can be pure.

You make sense jare!

manny4life:
But Enugu isn't a city so is Abuja, please that is wrong mentality,

Apart from that, how can someone name Enugu in the same sentence with Abuja?

You keep contradicting yourself. You and I have agreed that the definition is based on the country. Nigerian feds and 99% of Nigerians define Abuja and Enugu as cities. The rest na waste of time, sorry.

. . .And that is how the cookie crumbles . . .

Nchara, what is your definition of a city and please give examples of cities in Nigeria that fulfill your criteria of a city.

KnowAll:
Lagos, Ibadan, Kano , Abuja, Kaduna, Benin, Enugu, PH, Ikeja, are Metropolitan in Nature and are Cities and are Metropolitan areas also.

alj_harem:
I would like to separate some facts here.

What makes Onitsha , benin and co a city is the opportunities those cities provides along side the diverse population and amenities.

although with things like malls and cinemas in enugu now, it would be expected to grow into a city.

Thank you guys.

pathetic

@OP
I might be wrong but I think it has to do with the past orientation, ethnic diversity and wealth.

What I meant by[b] past orientation[/b] is previous empires, kingdoms etc. For example, the Hausas, because they were all under one ruler (the Sarduna), you'll expect them to have one major town. They are dependent on each other, like a team. The Igbo on the other hand have been independent, hence, you have lots of cities. The Yoruba is a mixture of the two.

Ethnic diversity: A state like Delta where you have more than 2 ethnic groups, you'll expect at least two towns for economic and ethnic "balance" within the State. No group wants to be left out. While Lagos contains all the ethnic groups in Nigeria, hence, you have a city-state!

Wealth: The is a strong correlation between ethnic diversity and wealth. Those two feed and reinforce each other. The more wealthy a state is, the likelier the chance of having more than one city.

Nice one!
Up Enugu! Up Naija!!!
We are getting there!

lol

^^^
Shut up.

Its like GEJ has been on NL. I am glad he knows this. Well, he is our leader and we are the masses. May God give him the wisdom to lead Nigeria right!
Very thoughtful, to be honest.

dmainboss:
I think using the so called presence of a cabal is at best "lame". Why did the cabal not fix the prices for phone tarrifs? One insinuation I read here on NL is that the rich guys out there are always good friends. Well that insinuation is sooooo wrong. These rich guys are constantly trying to outdo each other. Sometimes, the competition is so bad, that they are willing to take losses just for their competition to fail. No cabal is going to fix any price. They are individual businesses looking for the edge and looking for economic dominance. The laws of demand and supply will always kick in and competition will always determine the final price regime.

Okay, if you say so! I wish GEJ and Nigeria all the best. We all want what is best for our country, hence, the passion. Thanks for your time though. I'm out

df2006:
^^^^^^ remain small wey u go use swallow food o, you don dey spit since yesterday

Abi o! I could smell your stench since yesterday.
You are disgusting!

df2006:
commot for my front

. *spits on you and your post*. Useless!

dmainboss:
You seemed to have missed my point a bit.

There is nothing like fringe money in society. Money is neither created nor destroyed but simply passes from one man to the other. The fuel subsidy money is not free money.
Secondly, the government cannot construct more refineries for obvious reasons. Nigeria situation has made it very difficult for government business to flourish and sustain. That why we have to privatize. Secondly, the massive financial commitment needed for these refineries is not something the government can afford right now. I just pointed out to you how grossly inadequate our budget is for 200 million people. That is why we are still talking of 18, 00 (around $120) as monthly minimum wage. But then, you cannot privatize except there is garantee that the private companies will make some profit. No one will invest money without making profit. So the kee is deragulation and allowing market forces of demand and supply to drive competition and determine prices. Government cannot build more refineries. It could have been easier 20 years ago, but now, there is too much to attend to and the population is fast increasing

My view is that we have a cabal, what is stopping them from controlling the prices?? Nigeria is dependent on oil. Will that not be too much power given to them? What is stopping them from forming a body to protect their interest (like OPEC)? I sincerely think that the law of demand and supply will not work in this sector.
Our POVs are very different. I am looking at it in terms of the masses, you are looking at it in terms of the overall economy.
I love Nigerians and I am sure you do too. We are all just looking at the best way to bring this country up to her potential. Thanks for your time.

emmatok:
Sorry for your Information Yaradua gets full credit for the amnesty process and not GEJ.

Or will you give[b] Sambo[/b] credit for negotiating with BOKO-HARAM, if it die down tomorrow?NO.

I know people like them.
They(df2006) hide under other's comment so they can be seen as someone important but in reality, he is probably knows nothing. Lonely because he is not original and therefore criticizes every thing people say or do. I am sure his girl has had enough of him. Nothing to offer the world. Waste man . Born throway!

df2006:
countless nos of times you have been proved wrong here, some have even taken their time to educate you, but you still come here to spew forth rubbish, notice i say, you are unstable? we don't argue for argument sake, it is to learn, beaf having brought out an article to prove to you that goodluck was a substantial effort in the amnesty process, you will still come tmoro and argue that he did nothing, dude grow up.

Yes and that is why I gladly asked him to educate me which he did. You must have been blind if you didn't see it. You need the growing up because you lack sense to realize that during debates, likes of you run away. You need to be a man, not a coward! A man admits his mistakes. A man proves his case. That I have done. What have you done? Criticize others to hide your own insecurities! What a waste!

dmainboss:
The real issue for me here is how we should go about the fuel subsidy problem. I am a strong advocate for the removal of fuel subsidy. Why? I am in the private sector and I hate government handouts. Secondly, I understand, from the principles of economics, that there is nothing like free money. Money used for subsidy is money that is supposed to serve other very important purposes. Thirdly, the world economies are shaking right now. Europe is on the brink. If Nigeria does not curtail some of these excesses, then we will meet real trouble ahead.

In an ideal society, YES. In Nigeria, no way. Knowing my country, that money will NOT be used for development. You see, Nigeria is a VERY corrupt country where common sense is turned upside-down. The question is, if the private investor hates handouts, what has that got to do with subsidy removal? As the private sector, whether the government gives you money or not, you'll still get your profits; especially when the economy is dependent on your product. What is stopping you from moving it from  N150/Litre to N500/litre?? Is its not your money? The government cannot oppose you because they (NNPC), apart from being the epitome of corruption, can't cater for the needs of Nigerians.

Secondly, what is stopping the construction of more refineries and reservoirs? Will this not create more jobs?

There are several arguments I have heard that I will like to question.
1. If GEJ's motivation is corruption, then why doesnt he just connive with the oil importers? Why go thru the long route?
2. They say Nigeria can sustain subsidy. But have you seen the Nigerian budget? Imagine we are still doing around 20 to 30 billion dollars in a country of around 200 million people? Nigerian earnings are far too small to sustain Nigeria. That is the rel truth. The president has a massive task to turn Nigeria around. Even our oil earnings is not really adequate not to talk of using it to subsidize petroleum. The US with all its development on the ground is still doing a budget of about $1.344 trillion with 350 million citizens. We need massive infrastructure. We need major major turn around in agriculture, mining, technology and human capital development. These will not come cheap.

1. What has oil importer got to do with GEJ? After all, they are the private investors. It is their money/investment they are putting in line.

2. Agreed. How can he turn the country around? By hyper-inflation ? What happened to the building of more refineries? Create Jobs? GEJ is trying in other sectors, especially agriculture but not good enough in the oil sector, sorry.

df2006:
people don't mind all this dolts claiming false identity, alj watever has claimed to be from every where in nigeria, the other unstable one claims to be itsekiri, natural born liars, especially that one jason something, watch his posts he never seem to stick to a particular position, always following the crowd, calling people's names for support, stand like a man, monkey say im dey spit, you get spit for mouth? aturu nama! imagine the combination.

Lets think, mathematically speaking:

If I pick a stance (A) on an issue but I have been proved wrong by another person's stance (B). Will I still be objective if I stick to "A"??
This is called decision maths!

Bruv, where did you school?? Are you sensible at all?

df2006:
people don't mind all this dolts claiming false identity, alj watever has claimed to be from every where in nigeria, the other unstable one claims to be itsekiri, natural born liars, especially that one jason something, watch his posts he never seem to stick to a particular position, always following the crowd, calling peoples name for support, stand like a man, monkey say im dey spit, you get spit for mouth? aturu nama! imagine the combination.

True say! Another bigot has joined the list of moro.ns. Can you stick to a position and be objective?? Think for once! Nkita ara!

@dmainboss

I think the misunderstanding came from your generalisation. You grouped everyone together. I don't criticize for its sake. That is bitterness which I do not have time for or the space in my heart to keep. Anyway, enjoy your stay on NL with your ID.