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BusinessRe: The Most Economically Viable States In Nigeria To Invest Into by jason123: 7:41pm On Nov 13, 2011
Ohaneze1:
You analysis is quite rich and comprehensive. I think that economically viable states can mean states that can yield in all areas of investment. Thus states like Lagos, Rivers, Anambra, Delta and Kano easily comes to mind and are major Nigeria's economic hotbeds.
All areas of investments? I'd say its limited to one state, Lagos. An investor should look for states with comparative advantages in the sector he/she wants to go to. This was why I had to divide the response to sectors.
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 11:59pm On Nov 12, 2011
Dawgpound:
Oh I am well vested. I keep track brotha. I see certain things about Nigeria that needs to change and #1 is over concentration of economic activities in Lagos. Its time to diversify and keep things closer to home. If I were to live in Lagos I will just rent instead of buying or building properties in a state where I will always remain a stranger.
Guy, the highlighted will not change anytime soon because every country needs a commercial capital. In the UK; we have London, do you see the Birmingham citizens complaining? In the USA, we have New york. In Korea, we have Singapore. Commercial centers don't diversify. The finance economy of Nigeria will remain in Lagos for a LONG LONG TIME so we have to get used to it. The technological hub of Nigeria will remain in Abia/Anambra axis, we have to get used to it. The administrative center will remain in ABUJA we have to get used to it. The Oil and gas center will remain in Rivers, we have to get used to it.

These capitals will not change over time because they are using their comparative advantage. Lagos -port, Abuja -(no man's land), Abia/Anambra (innovative population), Rivers (lots of Crude oil). As you can see, they are already at the advantage. Trying to change that will hurt the business man/men or you, not these centers.

@the second highlighted
Well, that's a personal choice. . . .and if you think you'll remain a stranger, then, you are probably a stranger. If you can acclimatise like Ben and peeps like Paddy lo and Afam, then you are the son of the soil. Its a thing of the mind.
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 11:02pm On Nov 12, 2011
Dawgpound:
@Jason, that's clearly none of your concern. I haven't asked about your background or have I? When I feel its necessary to state certain things about me you will know.
Certainly. The reason I asked is because if you were well versed in Nigeria, you'll not type what you typed. No hate intended.
PoliticsRe: A Look Inside Nigeria's Floating Slum by jason123: 10:19pm On Nov 12, 2011
alj harem:
YOU SHUT IT

if not for them, makoko would not be what it is, it would have sank in the ocean u mo.ron

[b]these are the people that make up the REAL LAGOS STATE not the mor.orns in VI and co posting on topics they are clueless [/b]about Yoruba mor.on
You didn't need to go tribal!
However, the highlighted is very correct. Most of these people judging have never been to Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: A Look Inside Nigeria's Floating Slum by jason123: 10:17pm On Nov 12, 2011
oduasolja:
dude u are mad. if its decent why dont u go and liv ethere. dummy.
You are very stupi.d, and that should be a compliment.

What makes you think I've not been there? The area is very cool! The nightlife is funny, believe me! Don't judge places based on the propaganda you see.
There is nothing the government can do about places like this.
PoliticsRe: A Look Inside Nigeria's Floating Slum by jason123: 10:02pm On Nov 12, 2011
oduasolja:
they should destroy that eyesore and send all those people back to their countries.

why must they come and transform nigeria into a rubbish dump or a rubbish heap.

stay in your freaking village and farm there.

just coming here to transform lagos into a gargbage dump.
Makoko is a decent place. The nightlife is funny! I am sure you have never been there. Ignorance! Forget what you see and hear. Go there yourself.
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 9:58pm On Nov 12, 2011
ak47mann:
he is right in a way that's why we need FG to dredges   river niger so that warri port and onicha port enhances it advantage properly sad
Thank you!
Btw, Warri port is okay. Onicha port is almost done.
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 9:57pm On Nov 12, 2011
Dawgpound:
Why do people like Jason act like the world begins and ends in Lagos? Such companies should remain where they are and I guess expand if they want but let's practice "charity @ home". There are other cities like PH, Calabar, Warri, where Innoson can get exposure it needs. I'm not against Lagos but let's for once quit thinking Lagos is the land of milk and honey coz its not. innoson will provide employment to many people and discourage many from leaving their region to seek jobs in places as far as Lagos and the North.
I am sure you did not read my previous comments because if you did, you wouldn't have typed this.
Let me break it down to you. THE COMPANY SHOULD NOT MOVE TO LAGOS OR KAFANCHAN! IT SHOULD REMAIN IN ENUGU AND NNEWI! However, it should move her good to Lagos for a greater reach. No serious business man uses tribalism in business. Take a look at Dangote (the richest man in Africa), his HQ is in Lagos. Where did Globacom and Eleganza start?? Lagos!

No serious business man in any country, will avoid the commercial capital of his country. Economics 101, law of supply and demand; Lagos has 18million people and is the most culturally diverse state.

After Lagos, he can move to Delta, Rivers and so forth. I obviously want him to move to warri for the sake of objectivity, he should move his goods to Lagos; that is, if he is a serious business man.

Btw, please don't deem this offensive but have you been to Nigeria? Where did you stay in Nigeria?
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 9:29pm On Nov 12, 2011
ak47mann:
cool cool
Akmann, hope you can remember this thread?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-802119.0.html
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 9:27pm On Nov 12, 2011
afam4eva:
yes, you're right. Anybody that means business must be in Lagos. I think Coscharis is kinda still experimenting by selling to people in it's base(East). I guess with time he'll move to Lagos.
Doesn't Cosharis have a branch already in Lagos (VI area)? I know he also has a few in the East based on the adverts on TV in Nigeria back then. But I always thought his HQ was in Lagos because of the ports . . undecided.
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 9:15pm On Nov 12, 2011
After Lagos, then, he can expand. Its gonna be difficult (though, not impossible) to expand with targeting Lagos first.
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 9:14pm On Nov 12, 2011
afam4eva:
Outlets should not only be in Lagos but also in other major Nigerian cities.
cheesy
Ah! I hear you. Anyway major manufacturer that does not target the Lagos market is joking. Which state is as ethnically diverse and populous as Lagos? Which state will earn him and his goods a reputation, nationwide?
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 9:08pm On Nov 12, 2011
afam4eva:
Coscharis is a car sales company while Innoson is a manufacturing company. Definitely in the future they'll have outlets in big cities like Lagos, PH, Abuja, Aba, Ibadan, Kano and Kaduna. But their factory and headquater in Nnewi and Enugu respectively will remain.
Afam, the outlets need to be in Lagos. You know this. The factory and HQ needs to remain the Nnewi and Enugu, no worries. But outlets? No. It needs a large and diverse market and Lagos will provide that. We need a situation where an Ibadan guy can go back to Oyo and boast to his friends about his new ride, innoson car. Nnewi and Enugu cannot provide such an environment for Nationwide patronage.

I remember that Globacom too started in Lagos before moving out.

All in all, Innoson needs a way to get his goods to Lagos. I repeat, the factory and HQ should remain in the "East".
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 9:01pm On Nov 12, 2011
Dede1:
In some cases, location of industry tends contribute to the growth. However in the case of Innoson, the location is very close to where certain materials needed for its operation disembark, hence Port Harcourt and completion of Onicha river port.

All the vehicles sold in Nigeria were not even assembled in Nigeria. Innoson needs federal government assistance such as the one Toyota and GM get from their respective home governments.
I totally agree with you. I simply suggested the transportation of the cars to Lagos for exposure and awareness.
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 8:59pm On Nov 12, 2011
afam4eva:
Why must everything be in Lagos. We're trying to move more people out of lagos and you're suggesting that the industries in other states should be moved to Lagos. What exactly does Lagos have to offer Innoson? Innoson is based in Nnewi(Automobile capital of Nigeria) and Enugu and for no reason should he contemplate leaving the east.
Afam, follow my line of thought. I suggested that Innoson moves her cars to Lagos because its a larger market compared to Nnewi. Lagos will help her gain the necessary exposure the company needs. The Head-quarters should remain in Enugu or Anambra or the "East". Cosharis did the same (although its not a manufacturing company)

No, everything must not be in Lagos.
PoliticsRe: Forget Ogbunigwe, Ever Heard Of Autonov 1? by jason123: 8:07pm On Nov 12, 2011
lagcity:
Prof. Autonov: hey guys, i invented Autonov
Patent Office: but we already have trucks
Prof Autonov: yes i know but this one is more flexible and highly maneuverable
Patent Office: ok, whatever.  

Biafrans: hey look, we're geniuses, we invented ogbunigwe
Patent Office: but we already have bombs
Biafrans: oh no, you don't get it, this one blows ppl up for real, including the unlucky Soldier who detonates it grin
Patent office: sorry, we already have a bomb, and it's safer.
Biafrans: oh boolshhitt! Is the Yoruba's fault! It is igbophobia! this patent office is a Yoruba office. we're gonna tell ojukwu. i'm gonna blow it up.
Patent Office: SECURITY!!


I HAVE NEVER LAUGHED SO HARD!!!
PoliticsRe: The Worst State Capital You Have Visited by jason123: 7:44pm On Nov 12, 2011
afam4eva:
It's the second worst capital that i've been to after Lokoja.

Btw, i have been to Awka, Enugu, Owerri, Asaba, Akure, Port-hacourt, Benin City, Ibadan etc.
Well, I can't say much since I have not been to that many capitals.
BusinessRe: The Most Economically Viable States In Nigeria To Invest Into by jason123: 7:41pm On Nov 12, 2011
Investment in what terms?? Real estate? It all depends on the type of investments.

For ALL investments, I have to admit the Lagos is the place.

Real estate: Ogun (due to her proximity to Lagos), Abuja and Oyo (especially Shangisha), Anambra (Onisha)

Oil and gas: Delta and Rivers. Bayelsa does not produce that much oil although, its where oil was initially discovered.

Finance and stock market: I'd say Lagos because most HQs are situated there so it's easier to get informed in Lagos compared to other states.

Technology and manufacturing companies : Apart from Lagos, I'd say Abia, Enugu and Anambra.

Aviation:
Lagos and Abuja

I can go on and on. . . But first, you need to know the sector you want to go into.
PoliticsRe: The Worst State Capital You Have Visited by jason123: 7:28pm On Nov 12, 2011
afam4eva:
After Lokoja, i'll ad Ibadan. This city may be large and all that but it's really dirty and can give me headache just like Onitsha. I remember one of my visits to Ibadan where i saw a billboard that read "Keep Ibadan clean and green". The billboard and the area surrounding it were really filty.

I don't agree with people tat added Akure. It is one of the most progressive cities in Nigeria. It's kinda like Asaba.
The same Ibadan?! shocked
Filthy, yes. The worst capital, certainly not.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=595245&page=3
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 7:09pm On Nov 12, 2011
ak47mann:
jason ibeto is from nnewi
Thanks for the correction. Wasn't too sure but I have heard he has a connection to PH (family-wise, business-wise), do you know?
PoliticsRe: The Worst State Capital You Have Visited by jason123: 7:08pm On Nov 12, 2011
alj harem:
I disagree, Ibadan and Abeokuta should not be there

In fact my recent visit to Ibadan showed that the it is third only after lagos and abuja

the house prices are second to Abuja and sometimes more than Lagos

do you know of the COCO mall built in the heart of Ibadan ?

there is no bigotry here, but Ibadan and akeokuta are far much more advance than any other capital apart from Port harcount
Most of them have not been to these cities, yet, they talk as if they have been there.
PoliticsRe: The Worst State Capital You Have Visited by jason123: 7:07pm On Nov 12, 2011
Relax101:
There's nothing wrong with Umuahia.
You have the modest part and the business district.
[b]Asaba seems to be the best modern capital. I think s[/b]o.
You are joking, right??
PoliticsRe: Forget Ogbunigwe, Ever Heard Of Autonov 1? by jason123: 7:06pm On Nov 12, 2011
manny4life:
LOL, come on man, you don't have to be harsh like that, hehe

Personally, I think it's a good innovation with regards to the concepts (able to move in either direction) although it cannot be verified nor validated; however, be it as it may, I just want to know what the basis of comparison is. Ogbunigwe was tested unfortunately in war that claimed lots of lives. It's call a firecracker, a real firecracker you sure don't wanna mess with, be it crude or refined, bottom line is it achieved its purpose. Now, if OP is gonna compare this vehicle to firecracker, my own point is on what basis? Research or not, what is the basis?
Aigbofa:
You are saying exactly the same things people have said about great inventors through out history. Thomas Eddison was called crazy, even the old alchemists were ridicled but laid the foundation for modern chemistry.
LOL! grin
We Nigerians need to start telling ourselves the truth.
I agree that it is a very good innovation and the guy tried. Heck, I can't built it. But guys, what is/was its usefulness? Is that what we call an armored tank?? An AK47 will rip that thing to shreds in quick time.
Rubber tyres? Who uses that in a war?? A little spike on the ground and the thing is useless.

Why do we like relying on past glorieshuh undecided lipsrsealed
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 6:59pm On Nov 12, 2011
Dede1:
Sometimes I get flabbergasted when Nigerians insinuate Nigerian society is insulated from acts of tribalism. I must state categorically everything about Nigeria is fundamentally tribal or sectional. Corruption in Nigeria is the grandchild of tribalism. When few patriotic Nigerians tried to paddle the colonial contraption into a positive path, the actions of the few wise fellows were branded tribalism which set off a motion that led to civil war.
Dede1, before we deviate; we cannot call this tribalism, can we? GEAJ has a bit of Igbo in him, we all know this. Even Ibeto (a PH guy, I think) might be part Ijaw, hence, GEJ's ethnic group. Why can't he bring him up?

Innoson is in Enugu, will it not be better for him to move some his goods to a larger market. Remember Cosharis motors? His main branch is in Lagos, (a larger market of over 18 million people) and notice that his business is successful. I sincerely don't think that there is tribalism in this case. Right now, he needs people to start buying his goods. Enugu is not the ideal place (no offense). Enugu can be the HQ and all but for his goods to sell, he needs a market like Lagos.
PoliticsRe: Forget Ogbunigwe, Ever Heard Of Autonov 1? by jason123: 6:44pm On Nov 12, 2011
manny4life:
Please, what is the inventive concept here? This is one point I'm trying so hard to understand. Ok, if u tell me the concept here is because the vehicle can move in both direction, well, we might have a basis of argument. Then, it bring me to my second question, what is the basis for the comparison to "Ogbunigwe - War-Firecracker" as yall put it? Are you assuming that the vehicle could serve as a weapon transporter, launcher, I mean on what basis / concept was this vehicle compared to a war firecracker?
grin
That vehicle is useless as far as I am concerned. Great innovation though but no usefulness. I dare anyone to challenge that.
PoliticsRe: The Worst State Capital You Have Visited by jason123: 6:38pm On Nov 12, 2011
Bush people, how can one say Ibadan and Akure are bad?? Even Abeokutahuh shocked embarassed
Tell all these fake stories to the Diasporans.
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 4:42pm On Nov 12, 2011
ikeyman00:
@@@@@
jason

u and u and u will keep getting worked up whenever there is a thread like this

going by your quote necessity abi boko fools still rely on the white man technology

the igbo spirit isnt anything to play down like u bunches of envious cockroaches try to do

the earlier u get that the better!!
This is boring! Guy, did the Palestinians not build weapons to fight Israel? Do those weapons look like child's play? Any group of people will build those weapons, if not better, if placed in that situation. The idea of trying to mystify Biafrans will not work. We are not illiterates.
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 4:38pm On Nov 12, 2011
Dede1:
Which federal government is being referred in this debate? Is it the moronic federal government that did not fire anybody involved with ordering of luxurious buses from China instead of Innoson? If the chairman of Innoson is a Yoruba or Hausa or any ethnic group other than Igbo, there would have been decree to exclusively buy Innoson and ban the importation of certain vehicles into Nigeria.

Remember the cement saga involving Ibeto, Dangote and federal government under Obasanjo.
Dede1, this has nothing to do with ethnicity;after all, GEAJ has Igbo blood in him. GEJ might has well lead the way and make the decreee for us to buy Innoson cars.
Even if we have a pure Igbo president today, the status quo will not change.

He should move to a larger market and keep the HQ in Enugu, this will help him gain the necessary exposure in the Nigerian economy. He can also sign MOUs with Lagos, Rivers . . .etc; You know, to help him gain some ground and awareness among the consumers.
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 2:05pm On Nov 12, 2011
kasiem:
@jason,
for sincerity sake, are u telling me that those local refineries can't be transmogrified into a wonderful refineries? Is f.g not being supportive of dangote and adenuga? Why not give the same hand to innoson?
I am an all-out supporter of local industries, whether Igbo owned, Yoruba own or Kalabari owned. After all, they are employers of labour, thus, increasing OUR overall quality of life.

With that said, I think you haven't seen these local refineries. No, it cannot be transformed. I'll try to describe it: It is an horizontal metallic barrel with a hole at the top. An aluminum or metallic roof is used to over the barrel. Its heated up and the petroleum spirit evaporates, condenses on the roofs and drip down to containers, to be transported and sold. The rest of the materials in the crude oil (Lubricating oil, Diesel, Kerosine etc) are thrown into the nearest water body causing environmental degradation.

Dangote and Adenuga used bureaucracy with OBJ and IBB respectively. About Innoson (with "connections"wink, it needs the local patronage and the need to move to a bigger market. For example, it can manufacture cars in Enugu but transport the cars to a place like Lagos to be sold. With the HQ in Enugu and the market in Lagos, I think its a win-win for him. Lagos will help him gain the exposure needed for his company to be heavily patronized.
PoliticsRe: US Military To Help Fight Boko Haram by jason123: 1:52pm On Nov 12, 2011
Most of these FAKE NIGERIANS love mouthing off. How can you invite USA to come to Nigeria and yet, these fake Nigerians seem happy. And those shouting Oil, up and down; do you guys reealise that the Oil will not be "Yoruba, Igbo or Hausa Oil"? Neither will  it be for the SS/Niger-Delta region but for the USA. Think guys, this is not time for internal division. After they kill "Almajiries", they(USA) will protect their interest, not the ND's interest.
PoliticsN15m Share Scam: Nollywood Star, Jim Iyke Docked by jason123(op): 1:39pm On Nov 12, 2011
…Hearing begins Dec 9
By Ikechukwu Nnochiri
ABUJA – Popular Nollywood actor, Jim Iyke, was on Friday, docked before a Chief Magistrate Court in Abuja following allegation that he duped a company to the tune of N15 million.

He was charged with criminal breach of trust, criminal force, assault, cheating and criminal misappropriation contrary to sections 312,265,322 397 and 309 of the Penal Code.

Meanwhile, the actor who mounted the dock yesterday, pleaded not guilty to a one count criminal charge that was preferred against him by the Nigeria Police Force.

Specifically, Police alleged that he used fraudulent tactics and acquired 15 per cent equity shares of a music company, Untamed Records Ltd.

Nollywood star, Jim Iyke docked

The prosecuting counsel, Mr Chijoke Okezie, told the court that investigation into the case revealed that the accused, a resident of Sunnyville Estate, Abuja, hoodwinked one Habiba Abubakar into granting him access to share documents of the recording company.

He said police was invited into the case after Abubakar who is the manager of the company, discovered that 15 per cent of its equity shares was transferred to Jim Iyke.

Consequently, Abubakar wrote a petition to the Inspector General of Police (IG) on August 8, urging him to investigate the fraud.

Okezie said the accused admitted that the complainant paid the money into his Oceanic Bank account No. 00500173691, deviating from his initial plan of investment and converted the money to his personal use.

He added that when the complainant confronted the accused, he allegedly turned violent, threatening to kill her.

Nevertheless, immediately the actor entered his plea yesterday, his counsel, Esther Uzoma, relied on the provision of section 341(2) of the Criminal Procedural Code, and sought his release on bail.

His lawyer pleaded the court to grant him bail on self-recognition, vouching that he will be available to conclude his trial.

Though the prosecuting counsel objected to the request, however, Chief Magistrate Okeagu Azubike, acceded to the oral application, and granted him bail in the sum of N500, 000 with two sureties in like sum.

The Magistrate stressed that the sureties must be responsible Nigerians who must be resident within the jurisdiction of the court.

He further adjourned the matter till December 9 to enable the police to complete their investigations.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/11/n15m-share-scam-nollywood-star-jim-iyke-docked/
PoliticsRe: Biafra Built Three Planes In 3 Years? by jason123: 1:38pm On Nov 12, 2011
asha 80:
your opinion on the bolded stinks as if enugu state governmnet and some transport co. re not patronising them.this is why the country will not develop as everything is seen as a sectional thing as if the whole country will not benefit.would we still be hearing aba made if no one patronized them?
You misunderstood me. I am for the support of "Aba mades" ("China mades" are of no better quality) and Innoson cars. What I meant by my statement was to follow the Eleganza model since the FG is not forth coming. He initially started in Lagos(He's local area) before he could be accepted.

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