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^done. But...a very poorly thought-out argument imo. |
plaetton: Referering tot he bolded in red, did yahweh really say that? what world, this world? Save the world from what, if I may ask?Forgive me, but I think all your questions are of facetious intent - in which case any attempt at a response would amount to running a fool's errand. cheers dude. |
pls continue here: https://www.nairaland.com/1187013/christ-embassy-pastor-apologises-failing |
Finis Jennings Dake (1902–1987) was an American Pentecostal minister and evangelist known primarily for his writings on the subjects of Pentecostal (or Charismatic) Evangelical Christian spirituality and Premillennial Dispensationalism. His most well known work was the Dake Annotated Reference Bible.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finis_Jennings_Dake |
[quote author=inspiredbyGOD:.]Thanks for your help. I'll also try to search for them myself.[/quote]You welcomes . Thanks for your exposition on the issue. But why did Jesus indirectly refer to the woman as a dog. He said "it is not good to take the children's bread and give it to the dogs" what did He mean by the statement?Honestly, I don't have a good answer for that one. I must've read that a million times but never really saw it as a 'demeaning' statement - but rather as one that Jesus may have (in His usual sleek way) used to test or challenge the woman. I just did a quick google search and there are a few theories out there (here's one http://christianthinktank.com/qcrude.html). This one could be seen as trying to bend scripture to suit your own theology I don't know.What I would say is overall, Jesus' words & actions all through the gospels are pretty much never discriminatory, condescending or demeaning, they are infact just the opposite. I would start from there and then try to reconcile that scripture. Perhaps this is another one of those verses that is lost/muddled in translation (context, culture, times etc). The woman herself didn't seem insulted, infact her answer may show that she understood Jesus' reply to be a challenge/test. My 2 kobo. Godbless! |
Hehe...evangelical pop-tart atheists at it again. Wasn't it the other day they released their atheist bible? lol... Say after me as many times as necessary: *atheism is NOT a religion* *atheism is NOT a religion* *atheism is NOT a religion* *atheism is NOT a religion* *atheism is NOT a religion* *atheism is NOT a religion* *on another note, when did it air? I watched the SB start to finish and missed this...abi their moni no reach advertise between the 1st & 4th quarters? perhaps they need more tithes? ![]() |
brother Highyo, I modified your title to be better descriptive. Cheers. (this your topic self ehn , no comment) |
Hi Jlance, I modified the format of your post for easier readability - the content is still the same, just changed the layout. Cheers. |
Acidosis: I used to be a regular poster on this section until the day I observed a very embarrasing thing...Noted sir. I share your perplexion at the obsession of so-called non-believers with God & religion...the thing is truly a head-scratcher .... or is simply an indication (manifested by their constant presence here) of a restless conscience that is being pricked - by what they know to be truth - but have deliberately chosen to reject it. We already know.And please use the report button/post on mod thread - threads/links where posters are breaking the rules as mods may miss threads. |
@other posters on the thread, language please. NL is a 'family-friendly' site . Thanks in advance. |
[quote author=inspiredbyGOD:.]^^^^ Gone through the link and the thread was fantastic (although Mazaje never replied your last post). On the issue of Israel being the chosen ones, Romans 9 really helps us to understand what it really means to be part of God's chosen people but the thing is, it was later that it became so. It used to be about physical descendants of Isaac and not believers in God (remember that the Israelites just went off eliminating unbelievers without giving them the chance to come to know the true God). In another part of the bible, Jesus specifically told a woman that He only came for the lost sheep of Israel (physical descendants) and no one else.[/quote]Glad you found it useful dear. If not for time handcuffs me, I'd find several threads that discuss many of the questions you've asked here. Back to the issue...was it ever really about the "physical descendants of Issac"? or perhaps it seems that way because the writers were primarily of Abrahimic lineage? Jesus (and the NT) expound on the OT and reveal to us God's true plans that were misunderstood by the 'traditional' Israelites who believed they were the one true "people of God". Think of it this way...as much as I believe the scriptures are of divine inspiration - it was also written by human hands - and yes subject bias too. There are many instances of non-Isrealites being shown as people of faith or acceptable to God in the OT - including the great Melchizedek, whom Jesus Himself was likened to! what greater an example could you get than that? And when Jesus said "He came for the lost sheep of Israel"...His mission was first with the Jews. God had promised to save the world through the Jews, so Jesus had to begin with them. Much like I believe in the same way if I was on a mission, I would first go to the 'headquarters' and try to sort out the problem there first -and then allow the solution to trickle down out. It is the same Jesus who also said this in Luke 24: 45Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. 46He told them, "This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, 47and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.Clearly what He meant in that verse was to simply start with the Jews - and then reach the whole world through His disciples (again, another case of not building on only one verse). Cheers brother . |
@Logicboy, sorry dude, no can do sir. Pastor Kun: Checked again,can't see the mail.@Logicboy, sorry dude, no can do sir. Question, are you "following" frosbel & vice versa? I've heard it speculated that you may not see PM's from posters unless you are 'following/a follower'. Try it and see if it helps... |
Lildav, how body now? I modified your title to be better descriptive (nice topic!) and untagged the post the spambot banned you for. Godbless. |
plaetton: Hhmmm! I would've probably given a very different answer from that a few years ago. There is room for disagreement/differing opinions in the body of Christ - the bible actually teaches this! (https://www.nairaland.com/1067959/either-unite-church-doctrine-against/1#12475365) Life, truth, understanding is a journey that will never end until death - and we are all learning. One of my favorite quotes is "One can only learn once he gives up the illusion that he already knows". Personally, I don't believe faith in God should be a matter of compulsion or persuation - but rather conviction. It is better our brother Inspired let go of all his beliefs that he is unsure of, and slowly begin to 'rebuild' his faith (or not). [quote author=inspiredbyGOD:.]^^^^ I'm not declaring atheism. I just find it hard to believe that the God referred to as a man of war in the bible is actually GOD. What is the point of having such a large universe if You are only going to focus on Israel? Why confuse the language of man because you don't want them to build a city and be united? And truth be told, I still don't understand why Christ had to be killed before we could be forgiven, and also if Christ took all our sins and died with it, doesn't that mean that He was a sinner at death? Why did Christ say that the generation that He was talking to 2,000 years ago would still be alive when He returned (are they not dead yet?). Questions just keep coming up.[/quote]All good questions. You won't believe what a great resource NL is (except this yeye search function doesn't work well, off to ask the admin about it)...All these issues you've mentioned have been discussed...on the issue in particular of Israel being God's chosen...see here...although Mazaje did not answer me after I showed him scriptures that contradicted his claims ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/252783/gods-chosen-people#3655871 |
Hi Mike, I modified the format of your post for easier readability. The content didn't change, just the layout. Cheers. |
Hi Simongonner, I modified the format of your post for easier readability. Cheers friend. |
[quote author=Mynd_44]Hello peeps..... Up Spurs lol. We rule the west jorh[/quote]^most boring team ever ![]() joeydozzy: seriously, I miss those days of 40 and 50 pts.Don't worry, a leopard cannot change its spots. Kobe passing the ball is like a fish testing out land - it will not last . When ish hits the fan, the real Kobe will be back - with a vengeance ![]() |
Maxymilliano: Gracias Muchasde nada sir . Thanks for submitting a nice topic. |
Fantastic nomination. She's really been through hell. I hope she's not targeted for the rest of her life...we all know how these extremists can be relentless. |
Maxymilliano: JeSoul can you push this thread to the front page?Done! and that is a fantastic story! give it a day or two to show on the HP. |
[quote author=inspiredbyGOD:.]Men, I never thought that I would go down this path but over the past few weeks I have been "drowning" in unbelief of who the bible says God is. I have become a skeptic. It seems like the God of the old testament was different from that of the new testament (but they are the same). Firstly, God creates the heaven and the earth and everything in it, He also creates man in His image and puts him in a garden. He creates a woman to keep him from being lonely thus the first humans came into existence. He instructs them not to eat from a particular tree but the woman desiring to be wise fell for the devil's trick and ate the fruit. She makes her husband to do the same thing. They realise that they are naked (it seems like God doesn't know at this time). They heard the sound of "God's footstep" in the cool of the day. He asks "where are you??"(was He just asking for the sake of it or He didn't know where they were at the time?) .......... To be continued...........[/quote]Firstly, let me assure you asking questions about what you believe is a fantastic thing. You are in a good position, now you will really figure out what your faith is made of and whether it is worth holding on to - to you. The bible is a complicated book. All through history many have used it to their own ends - murderers have used it to justify their crimes, racists have used it to justify their hate, theives have used it to justify their greed, oppressors have used it to justify their tyranny and so on...the bible can say almost whatever you want it to say. The OT in particular is tough. And I will not pretend to say I understand it completely myself - but what I do know without a shadow of doubt is that compared to the greatness & vastness of God, what I know is next to nothing. So when I struggle, I remind myself my knowledge is only but a grain of sand in a vast ocean. So keep an open mind. Don't draw definitive conclusions from only one angle. The OT was written by people completely different from us, in completely different times, under completely different circumstances and very important - in a completely different context & language. Much of the meanings - literal or figurative - I fear are lost or muddled in translation. For example the issue of "God hardening Pharoah's heart"... which is it? because several (I think at least 2 other verses in Exodus) explicitly say that Pharaoh hardened his own heart! this is the danger of building a philosophy on only one or two verses. it is widely accepted among reputable scholars that practically everything was viewed as an act of God and therefore attributed to Him. Also there is another school of thought that says Pharaoh hardened his heart and God facilitated it - this takes into account both sides. So in a nutshell - keep asking questions. But be careful of the conclusions you draw from short, limited or hollow study. If after you conclude your research and decide that God & the bible are not for you, then good too. Just be convinced about it - for you cannot be lukewarm. Godbless brother . |
Muskeerow, tanka and tanka . jackname: This is not funny, i cant comment, not me again, what can be done Mods?.....Sawwry sis. It seems the spambot loves you ![]() prairie: pls mods y is 'christians chatbox' d only christian thread on fp, its sunday, thnxSister Prairie...haba! so because it is sunday the homepage should be flooded with Christian topics? what about those who celebrate Sabbath on saturday? they too will soon complain they're not getting enough exposure ...please post more links here on good quality christian topics and I will submit them to the supermods for HP consideration. Thank you! ![]() |
Roland17: The Ravens deserve this, i predicted this game and i am glad they won, i would never forgive kaepernickflacco played solid. Certainly deserves his credit. But he is not worth top QB money imho. We'll see what the ravens decide to do... @jesoulmy brother I see am oh. Truly impressed with how well the C's have stepped up, mostly the bench. I'm excited mostly for Green & Barbosa & Terry. Fellas can ball! On the other hand what's up with the Clippers? They're a hot mess without Paul. |
Wow. Fantastic effort by Sanfran to make the game decent. But Ray Lewis has his storybook ending . Congrats Ray and Baltimore ravens. We shall meet again next year and take y'all out! Kaepernick, you have a bright future but you're not ready for the big stage yet. Those early miscues plus James fumble ultimately cost them the game. |
For reals. Good to see sanfran making this a game. Somebody was bribed to switch the power off lol |
^lol seriously. This is embarrassing for NO and the nfl. Somebody didn't pay their electric bill. Mayor Nagin probably chopped the money hehe. I'm hoping the 49ners go on rampage, this has been a very disappointing showing so far. |
I trust ya'll -forry & Roland, watching the SB. 49ners did not eat their veggies this morning, I'm surprised how easy Baltimore is handling them. Kaepernick looks like a rookie caught in the headlights...stage is too big for him. Meanwhile, NEPA has struck at the Superdome ![]() |
Pls continue here https://www.nairaland.com/1182567/hillary-clinton-resigns-us-secretary |
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cheers dude.
I don't know.
perhaps they need more tithes? 


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