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https://www.nairaland.com/1192463/pope-benedict-resign .

At first I was simply going to hide all the posts with insults in them but on second thought, no good can come of this thread and there is a similar one opened by the same poster so...locked. With apologies to folks like potentpraise.

Look people, if you don't want to join his brotherhood it is not by force to comment. Open your own thread if you want to debate and leave his alone. Thanks.

@all posters, pls make your points without being insultive/abusive.

And so it begins...

@Candour, Godbless you brother!

@TV wassup!

@moredendisc, how body now?

Goshen360: Following the Spirit of my two brothers - moredendisc and TV01, I love these two brothers including sister WAM. I'm subject to the Spirit of Christ in my brothers and the Spirit of correction.

Disclaimer: If you're not convinced by my teachings, kindly discard and search the scriptures for yourself to disprove or accept what is taught. I have said what I said in pure heart and do not intend to make my brethren fall by my knowledge.

Our God sees my heart and judges everyone not because you're doing something because somebody said it. God will further ask you, don't you have the Bible for yourself to find out like the Bereans if what is said by Goshen360 is true or false. I have only challenged and said what I said as per my new stance in accordance with my knowledge. I'm not responsible for how you or anyone live their faith in the body of Christ. Ihereby lay my arguments to rest as far as this subject is concern. Let every man be persuaded by the word of God and the Spirit of God

God bless you all.

It is well brother Goshen.

The portion of your quote in bold - au contraire my brother, by virtue of your obvious popularity & cred on NL among Christians, you absolutely are 'responsible' in a sense.

James 3
1Dear brothers and sisters, not many of you should become teachers in the church, for we who teach will be judged more strictly. 2Indeed, we all make many mistakes. For if we could control our tongues, we would be perfect and could also control ourselves in every other way.
You are obviously a 'teacher' on NL to Christians whether you like it or not . And your words will carry more weight than say brother Ukochi (whom many probably don't know) whose been posting his links for years but hardly gets more than 1 or 2 comments. All in all, God will convince each of us of His perfect will - this may have been a case to prayerfully apply Romans 14:22.

You may believe there’s nothing wrong with what you are doing, but keep it between yourself and God.

Godbless ehn.

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@all, let us not get caught up in emotion my brothers & sisters. I'm sure we all want to please God in our lives. Even as we disagree, let us do so with a loving spirit - one that does not have the need to win the argument more than it seeks to love its brother.

Furthermore, I think we are laying down rabbit traps and stumbling stones by playing with hypothetics. Most of us live in countries/cultures where certain behavior is considered appropriate or inappropriate - aligning your spiritual beliefs with what is culturally appropriate is the godly thing to do. As such, questions like whether you'll need to invite wedding guests to a secluded island should not even come up because it will be obviously inappropriate for that circumstance. On the other side, shacking up with your intended spouse in a society like say naija will obviously cause eyelids to bat because it in inappropriate - whether or not you both personally believe you are already married in the sight of God - after all, the same bible tells us to avoid the very appearance of wrong or sin and na the same bible talk say we do not live unto ourselves - we represent Christ, and should not use our liberty carelessly - if not for anything but for the sake of unity & peace.

May God help us all. Amen!

As the christian mod here let me assure on behalf of my brethren, we are not bothered let alone be afraid of you guys. Your request was 'rejected & hidden' by the atheist mod. Frankly I would support the creation of a separate section for y'all - you can go and do your kumbaya there . But your fellows wouldn't agree because of the obvious truth - most of you guys are obsessed with religion and need to scratch that itch by bashing religion 24/7. Plain & simple.

Cheers.

By the way, there is a mod thread on top the page. https://www.nairaland.com/505782/questions-comments-complaints-talk-moderators/69#14245130

Nice servings of nba games today...Clippers vs NY should be fun. That hot mess the clippers put up in Miami was just ....and Miami should put another nail in the lakers coffin .

Roland17: You can't beat the spirit of the Celtics, its soooo Contagiuos..

@Jesoul, na u i dey see on TNT screaming? have fun .. .

I LOVE MY TEAMMMMM

Congrats to Doc for his 400th win last night against the Raptors

hehe...it was probably me . It was a beautiful thang...Boston spanking LA like that, gosh I enjoyed every second lol. Kobe is even more impressive live, chei! The shots he hit, now I understand even better, the guy is simply unstoppable. And there were so many LA fans in the house....geez, who sold tickets to them? Lol. Speaks to how intense the Boston-LA rivalry is. Got some nice pix...hope to share with you guys.

Now let's extend that streak to 7...Denver is going to be a tough challenge.

Very interesting thread. If I may be so bold as to interject...

I think this is a great example of how we complicate otherwise simple issues, get hung on up on words & definitions not putting directives in their proper context. Without having to quote a single verse (and I hope everyone will agree with me), but I believe God in His infinite wisdom has inherently equipped us with knowledge of what is wrong/right and acceptable in His sight. We don't need concordances, hebrew translations, latin dictionaries etc etc We have the holy spirit indwelling in us as the ultimate guide. Going by this, I believe questions like 'church wedding' 'dowry' 'consent' 'fornication' etc are all red herrings...no two situations are exactly alike. Godly wisdom is needed to determine what is appropriate/inappropriate depending on the unique circumstances you find yourself in.

^so by God's grace, let us try to not to lay down hard and fast, take it or leave it rules that declare one situation right or wrong.

That said, here is a recent submission from MNwankwo that I believe is 100% divinely inspired. It is worthy to note sir Nwankwo is not a 'Christian' - which shows you don't need to be a 'Christian' to know right from wrong. May God bless this man and increase his favor in this life and beyond.
[quote author=m_nwankwo]Hi truthislight. The union of a man and a woman who are meant for each other according to the laws of GOD has nothing to do with free s.ex and experimentation. On the contrary such a union is consecrated by the power of GOD, a power which banishes all lustful thoughts and desires. A man or woman who is inwardly pure do not indulge in secret or open impure wishes and desires. Spiritually free human beings are not victims of the over cultivated s.exual instinct, rather the fact that their marriage is a union of soul mates enables the couples to attract and absorb the purifying powers of GOD. A couple that has absorbed of this power are transformed human beings whose only desire is to bring joy and happiness to the beloved and not to soil him or her with impure wishes and desires. Indeed a marriage that is made in heaven is the best solution to to cure man`s morbid s.exual instinct and return this instinct to its healthy state. S.exual instinct in its healthy state does not torment men, rather, it is a gift of GOD which finds consummation in unions that are in accord with the laws of GOD. S.exual desires arising from a healthy s.exual instinct does not often occur in men. Today, the instinct is diseased and morbid and that is the reason why many a man or woman find it difficult to control.It also the reason why many cannot be in a relationship without harboring open or secret s.exual desires.

The condition for a s.exual relationship according to the laws of GOD is that there has been previously set in motion a perfect spiritual harmony, ie, a marriage according to the laws of GOD. Therefore, the question of s.exually sampling one person after another is totally out of question. When two couples are meant for each other, then the chords holding them together are unbreakable, thus the permanence of the marriage is assured from the very start. The same unbreakable bond of love which has received a higher consecration from the power of GOD eliminates any desire for another man or another woman. The observation that couples in "married" or "unmarried" unions still openly or secretly harbour s.exual desires about another man or woman that is not his spouse or partner is an infallible sign that that marriage did not fulfill the criteria for a genuine marriage according to the laws of GOD, or that one or both partners have stagnated and have refused to develop spiritually, psychically and physically.

Young men and women who are in search of the person meant for them do not need to travel all the continents looking for a soul mate. If they allow the small still voice within them to grow and not forcefully silence it, then, they will very easily identify the man or woman who is their own according to the laws of GOD. Experiencing such a true marriage will give them the conviction that marriage is indeed made in heaven. Stay blessed.[/quote]To see the rest: https://www.nairaland.com/1168742/marriage-pregnancy-it-sin-attend/1#13947524

May God guide & help us all in accordance with His perfect will. Amen!

Why not? Atheists just got their own bible

Sagamite: Like in the Religious section, I would rather leave than behave myself.

See you.

Now I know I can only gut Logicboy outside Religion and Foreign Affairs! He was always lucky 95% of his time is in the Religion section.

He better continue hiding in these sections if he loves his skin on his body and his intestines in his body. I will skin and gut him anywhere else I see him.

His intellect is below my feet.

Chao, belle!

I need to go and speak to Seun on this fckup!

lol. This guy. I will not give up hope on you. Pre-2010 (i think) Saga was able to put down 'cretins' without abuse...I will pray for him to make a comeback.

kmcutez: Miss Moderator, you also delete my post. Why na?

Madam k, you threw a couple bombs too now...though most were hid cos you quoted Saga's bombs. Cheers sister .

Orpelin, oga pls continue here https://www.nairaland.com/1187571/uk-legalises-same-sex-marriage
Cheers dude.

Sagamite: WTF are you doing on this thread?

You moderate this section too?

Seun, I will kill you!

So Logicboy has ran again to moderator after seeing he was in shyt.



He needed to be saved by the bell as usual.

What a wimp!

lol, oga I dey here oh. Now behave ya self ehn .

Sagamite: person, I hope you realise this is no the Religion section where you and wiegraf can run to the moderators to be "saved by the bell"?

This is politics section, they will allow you to be intellectually slaughtered and your corpse dragged on the streets if you lack logic.

No Jesoul or maclatunji to save you from Sagamite here o.

ROTFLOL... Saga, you gave me a good laugh in the middle of cleaning this thread. It's a pity, you have such good arguments, but unable to present them without being insultive, I really wish often that you would do better dude.

Anyways, @all posters, language please. And no more insults or a ban will be coming your way this beautiful Friday. Cheers.

damiso: Reading this thread and learning alot.As the bible says Iron sharpeneth Iron.

I worship in one of the most popular churches in Nigeria here in the UK.I serve in the childrens church,Youth church,a sunday school teacher and a couple of other duties Ours is a small parish and my pastor keeps trying to enrol me in the next pastoral leadership classes.

I have told him over and over again that i do not want to be a pastor and have even backed it up scriptures and even told him the main reason why i kick against it is my Husband does not worship in our church.I was born a muslim and converted to christianity and we used to worship together at the C of E(anglican church) till i started worshipping elsewhere when he was away for a while.He allowed me the free rein to worship where i want if i felt i was more spiritually in tune there BUT refuses to come along with me.

I know and i am convinced by the Holy Spirit that i do not want to be a pastor.I seek no such officein order to validate my Salvation in christ Jesus and TBH even if my husband was a pastor i still would not want to be one.I strongly believe in this scripture about our diff roles in the body of christ

"There are diversities of Gifts,but the same spirit.There are differences of ministries but the same Lord.And there are diversities of activities but it is the same God who works in all"(1Cor 12:4-6).

I dont believe my role is being a pastor but he keeps saying he sees in me a leader and one of the best candidates in his parish.I spoke to my husband and though he is not against it i cant tell from his demeanour he is not too keen.His words were do what the spirit ministers to you.I have two young kids under 5 and as it is it seems the roles clash.Sometimes when i cant meet up,my pastor even says i am using my kids as an excuse in slacking in my duties in the things of God and that who gave me those kids?

I have a strong conviction that i am called by God to make an impact for Him but not as a pastor.I have refused to fill the form and he is more or less saying i am rejecting the Call to serve.I keep praying about this and i am.not convinced to be a pastor.I will not be a people pleaser but look to Christ who is the author and finisher of my faith.

I have quite a couple of Teens am mentoring at the moment and they are the reason i would not want to leave this parish but seriously considering doing so if i keep getting pressured.I head follow up and even get told off for not pressuring people to become workers.
Reading this thread as even thrown up some more questions on whether or not i should even be leading a church which seems to be where this seems to be leading.

Pls my dear bro and sisters in Christ how do i stand my ground in love without seeming rebellious?

Hello dear sister Damiso,
I thank God for your life that you are seeking to do His will. I am a very very strong proponent of letting the peace of God guide you into all things. You should be fully convinced in your heart before undertaking any role of serving - especially one as demanding as 'pastor-hood'.

Part of a (your) pastors role is to encourage, gently prod and push you to greater faith and servitude within the body - BUT it must be a gentle Holy-Spirit influenced kind of pressure - NOT the kind that makes you feel guilty for simply wanting to spend time with your young children. Yes he wants you to serve the God that gave them to you - but your duty is to first serve your husband and and your children 100%, and then if you have any strength left over, the church. Let your pastor know as respectfully as possible but also be firm.

Personally, I have no reservations about women leading a congregation in the absence of qualified men (ideally) - others obviously feel differently - and God is His mercies will help us all. I wish you the very best sis . May God continue to bless and guide you according to His perfect will. Amen.

plaetton: I may have my own opinions , and may not agree with yours, but nevertheless, it would be enriching to see how you might wanna answer thse nagging questions.
We are bound to learn something, even if its a tiny bit.

hehe...the bolded part is more true than you even realize

Okay, what was the question again?

[quote author=A-40]I don't know if Dwight didn't do his research on just how ornery Kobe could get! Kobe also plays with injuries so people tend to listen when he talks. On this issue he does have a point especially as Dwight has still not committed himself to the Lakers going forward so he has not endeared himself to the members of the team who probably see the possibility of him leaving in the off season anyway! However I do sympathize with Dwight in the sense that his shoulders are the most important part of his game. They do the most work and receive the most punishment from the opposition! Its easy to tell people to suck it up but not everyone has the same pain threshold[/quote]Abi oh. Don't mind Kobe. Dwight should risk his long-term health for a long-shot at a title and reduce his off-season chances at a mega-sega contract? Kobe needs to be realistic jor.

Lakers vs Celtics tonight

Sweet! I just scored some tix too. First time I'll be seeing Kobe play live...and hopefully Howard plays too. And if my jazzman is on point Celtics will extend the streak to 6 and send the lakers to further oblivion

^the only reason your comment was hid is because of the 'bad' curse word you used. Repost your comment without it and noone will disturb you. Cheers.

Edit:
Here, let me show you:

how old are you again? keep your delusions in check.....where are the moderators when you need emm

Shikena. No one is out to get you

[quote author=Table Leg ]Jesoul thanks ... You are safe!
You and MMW are cool
Have a good evening lady[/quote]Thank you sir. And you have a better evening .

plaetton: He he he.
Cheers to you too.

Indeed, there are no answers to such simple questions.
But those are the real questions that deserve answers.

Au contraire. There are answers - the knock is I don't think you are interested in the answers ...especially when you go ahead and punctuate your post with the below declarations:

With that in mind, Despite all the noise about the messiahship of Jesus, I dont personally see any greatly positive impact the coming of jesus had for the jews in that era, and to humanity in general. One can argue that the reverse has been the case.

Imagine what possible trajectory human development and progress would have taken if the accident of history had sidestepped Paul's apostolic doctrines, or if, Constantine had not embraced christianity for political expediency.

Imagine if the Europeans had sidestepped the dark Ages?

^wetin you want pesin to say after that? you've made up your mind now & there is no shaking. No need for jesoul to come and be throwing water at a brick wall .

[quote author=Table Leg ]Jesoul i need answers oo ... I dont understand the double standards and some senseless/unnecessary decisions on this forum![/quote]Ah! Oga no vex now...ejo please ehn wetin I fit do to beg you? I have an extra plate of rice & stew if you're interested?

Sexkillz, i challenge you to come here and explain succintly why you have continuously picked on me ... I am not interested in your section anyway but i wont stop putting you on blast until you use your common sense if you have any ... I dont care what you do, you can faaaack off to hell for all i care!

E no easy to mod sir...please make some room for us to make a mistake here & there ehn. Sexkillz is a cool dude and is trying hard to keep his section clean & cordial for all.

By the way, is this thread solely for dealing with issues on the religion board or nairaland in general?!

Lol. You're asking after you have finished lodging your complaint ... the thread is for the religion board complaints. If you need to get a message to me or MMW you can do so here.

Oga Tableleg, relax now...haba.

musKeeto: Why you no comment?

That's why I recommended it for front page. Hopefully, it'll spark an interesting discuss. Maybe atheists are going about this 'african slavation' mission the wrong way. It would be great to get ideas and views from all angles (Pagan9ja I'm looking at u )...

Hope family and body better. All the best and thanks..

Monsieur 'Skeeto, I am handicapped by both time & ehm 'mod' stuff. Topics like that I know I can discuss with folks like you cos I know you & where you'll be coming from...I'm sure you'll admit the vast majority of atheist-flavored topics are simply poorly vield attempts at 'bashing' religion.

[quote author=A-40]Well as it stands Gasol also got injured last night tear of plantar fascia. So the Lakers more or less can't trade anyone anyway.
Damn this season is star-crossed for the Lakers

Cantankerous Kobe mocking Dwight again lol! "He's never had to play through injuries in his career" [/quote]You just gotta love Kobe lol. See his words:

"We don't have time for (Howard's shoulder) to heal,"

"He just wants people to like him. He doesn't want to let anyone down, and that gets him away from what he should be doing"

"(Howard) has never been in a position where someone is driving him as hard as I am, as hard as this organization is," Bryant told MacMullan. "It's win a championship or everything is a complete failure. That's just how (the Lakers) do it. And that's foreign to him."

Chei! see as Kobe just finished him. Lol. One has to wonder how much more Dwight can take before he explodes and makes his own comments in public...Lakers Soap Opera is pretty interesting this year.

birdman: Brother, you are making my point for me. When Giuliani increased police presence, see how new york mellow. The same can happen in Chicago - unfortunately it looks like city hall isnt willing to spend the money. And I think that is the most painful fact of all - it boils down to the lives of certain Chicagoans not being worth that much to some politicians.

Exactly. Until the relative of or someone famous gets killed they won't act.