achorladey:



You know I am INTELLECTUALLY LAZY. I can't even THINK WELL not to TALK of offering EVERLASTING LIFE. Hahahahaha.

It really shows. Once dead , forever dead . No Everlasting life

Hairyrapunzel:


I see you have lost so many loved ones and I am sure some died due to your blood transfusion ban policy. That's why you really want the dead people to awaken.

Thank God bible said there is one hope for Christians. My loved ones where Christians when they died they are already with Jesus Christ in heaven they are not coming back to earth and as a Christian I will be with Jesus Christ when I die.

As a Christian I have one Hope as with other Christians.

Lol, they finally get you guys to confess location and where small small , Your own is heaven , So abeg has Ressurection occur ? Your bolded . And Will UNRIGHTEOUS people be ressurected to heaven too ? [ act 24:15 ]

Barristter07:


Scared He will be trapped . Or doesn't believe in it ... Either way he is in serious problem

Oh, I get

Barristter07:


It's now glaring that you are from Satan himself , you worshipping a god that can't raise the dead or offer hope of everlasting life to people once they are dead . It's a shame .

Why is he scared to mention the Ressurection ?

Hairyrapunzel:


A simple showing us hope for everlasting life in those verses would do.

You just assumed that john3:6 and rev 21:3,4 talks of everlasting life.
Everlasting life is not mentioned in those passages so there is no answer to give.
How are those verses related to hope of everlasting life when it didn't mention such?


Rev 21:3&4
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Men . Men live where ?

John 3:6

5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit[b] gives birth to spirit.


There is no sign of everlasting life and some going to heaven while others will remain on earth in both verses

God is Spirit too.
Spirits live where?

Sense you no get at all .

Captivator, Jozzy4 abeg continue to ignore this slanderer

CAPTIVATOR:


New earth or heaven, Do the individuals have that ONE HOPE of everlasting life promised at Titus 1:2?

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Emusan:


And both the son and the father are DIRECTORS in position.

Yes, both are Lords, but one is officially appointed , the other is a shadow director.

Whether shadow, dark, light: the son is a DIRECTOR...which makes them equal in POSITION....

How many director do you now have?

one director appointed by me

Why are you dodging this question?

Failure to answer that will end my discussion with you.

looking for escape

Brainwashed!
Now it's appointed & shadow, you people won't kill person pikin with laugh...

Isn't director role equal?

Just look at how you people have been dancing around since why I only maintain just one position. Lemme see another word that is coming.

Olodo

Shadow director
A shadow director is a person in accordance with whose directions or instructions the appointed directors of a company are accustomed to act.

As far as Jesus is appointed. That makes the Father retains his Lord .

But the Father wasn't appointed as ONE GOD

Emusan:


You agreed your son is also A DIRECTOR but still went ahead to say it's height of dullness to equate him with you...this shows that you are confused.

What an intelligent person will say is, in position (DIRECTOR) we're equal but in person we're not.

Clearly , you just proved why the Father retains his Lord position .

Changing tune again, from Lord to God Almighty....deluded person!



Does that not equate him with you on the same POSITION?

Excuse me

Do u know the difference between Shadow director and appointed directors ?

Then your son isn't a director then...

How many director will the company have? You are still dodging this question!

You also boycotted this point:

Acting on your behalf means we have two DIRECTORS with EQUAL AUTHORITIES because to be a director the person must be 100% functioning.

Isn't Jesus still Jehovah now?

quote]Yes, cos I authorized only my son, same way the Father authorized only Jesus. Is Jesus Lord over the Father ?

But the Father is God over Jesus . deny ?

Why changing from Lord to God? Confuse idiot!

The point still remains, Apostle Paul says "There's one Lord" which is Jesus Christ, going by your false logic, the father isn't Lord.

One God, he even state it in other place that one God, is also the Father of All , kindly exclude Jesus from that. But Jesus is not Lord over his Father . control!

Keep jumping like kangaroo.....

Olodoooo , go and study the difference between appointed directors and shadow director. Jesus Lordship so far he is appointed does not replace the Father as Shadow director too, Lord . Jesus is under him

Emusan:


You're the one using logic here, so your logic is the stupid one.

That's why you couldn't answer those questions but have to lump them up with your Mumbo jumbo.

Anyway, these are the questions again:

These are the questions again:

Is your son a DIRECTOR at that time?


Does anyone who address your Son as DIRECTOR committed a crime?




The @underlined really exposed your hypocrisy....

So why then are you people denying Jesus His deity?

My son is a director and nobody commits crime assessing him as one. But to say he is equal with me when his directorship can't control me is the height of dullness.


He was authorized as Lord not God Almighty.

Key point: by the Father authority, that proves the Father is his Lord hence still retain his Lordship.

But the Father is the One God and in fact Father of all including Jesus - Eph 4:6

Remember, to be a DIRECTOR means your son will ACT FULLY ON ANYTHING THAT MAKES A DIRECTOR, DIRECTOR! Isn't it?

What is the essence of holding the key, if the Father LOVES THE SON so much that the Father and the Son are ONE?

Yes will act on my behalf according to my will. I appoint him remember ?

Just imagine....liar

You're still using style boycotting my questions, here is this one again:

How will you treat your own accountant who knew vividly that you're a director but went ahead to open company account with the name of your son ONLY with a bank and told the bank THERE IS ONLY ONE DIRECTOR (with your son's name only)

So what is the different between what you a director and



Since you're STILL A DIRECTOR then how many DIRECTOR will the company have

Acting on your behalf means we have two DIRECTORS with EQUAL AUTHORITIES because to be a director the person must be 100% functioning.

Isn't Jesus still Jehovah now?

Is Jesus Lord over the Father ?

This where my directorship lies over my son and others . u too dull abeg

Yet Apostle Paul (the accountant in our illustration) have to say THERE'S ONE LORD...

The funny thing is, your brother who you jumped in to defend used 1 Cor 8:6 to proved that since Apostle Paul said "THERE'S ONE GOD" which is the Father then Jesus can't be God...when I showed him about how his argument fall flat by using the same text for Lord, his tune changed by saying there's biblical evidence that the Father is Lord...i then challenge it that, there's also a biblical evidence that Jesus is God....when he couldn't refute that, he later change to Lordship nonsense and you jumped in to compound the confusion.

Yes, cos I authorized only my son, same way the Father authorized only Jesus. Is Jesus Lord over the Father ?

But the Father is God over Jesus . deny ?

One God, he even state it in other place that one God, is also the Father of All , kindly exclude Jesus from that. But Jesus is not Lord over his Father . control!

Emusan:


Imagine, after your logic was rendered useless....


These are the questions again:

Is your son a DIRECTOR at that time?

Does anyone who address your Son as DIRECTOR committed a crime?

Will you be angry if you see people addressing your son DIRECTOR in your presence?

See stupid logic o, I appointed him as director, why would I be angry he is called director . but every sensible persons know I still hold the key to his directorship

How will you treat your own accountant who knew vividly that you're a director but went ahead to open company account with the name of your son ONLY with a bank and told the bank THERE IS ONLY ONE DIRECTOR (with your son's name only)

My son is the only one director I appointed no fuss about it, He is acting on my behalf.

In addition:

How many DIRECTORS does your company now have?

My son is the only director I authorize. The key here is I control him and made him what he is . everyone knows fully well am a director too, but Have delegated him to act on my behalf.

Apply braiiiiiiin , same apply to Jesus , his Lordship is as a result of the Father's authorization

Barristter07:


Emusan no just get sense .

He doesn't, I agree

Emusan:


I keep laughing at you people ignorance anytime I see you using this line of argument.

Is your son a DIRECTOR at that time?

Does anyone who address your Son as DIRECTOR committed a crime?

Will you be angry if you see people addressing your son DIRECTOR in your presence?

How will you treat your own accountant who knew vividly that you're a director but went ahead to open company account with the name of your son ONLY with a bank and told the bank THERE IS ONLY ONE DIRECTOR (with your son's name only)

Thank God , you didn't deny I am also a director, likewise the Father .

solite3:
peter never said human nature is divine nature did he?
The Divine nature is God's own nature not human nature.
Believers partake of God's nature does not mean the nature belongs to them and certainly doesnt make them God.

See how this one is struggling. That means Jesus isn't God too.

Barristter07:


Not born with Human sinful nature ? Never experienced physical birth ?



Context please.
Is this reffering to a change in Nature or not.

John 3:6

What is born of Flesh is Flesh

What is born of Spirit is Spirit.

Explain the word "Is spirit "

A. They are Holy spirit .
B. They have the hope of becoming a Spirit
C. They have spirit as an human.



The Verse Admitted Children of The Flesh refers to those Humans Naturally born Jews, just that not all are chosen as Son of God agree ?



Jesus is reffering to a change in Human nature to Spirit Nature.



Can an individual explain where the wind comes from ? Its source ? Or control the direction it goes ? Who knows it ?

Inability to control its direction proves its not by human power to be born by the spirit. Its from above.

Sense



Context please, Go and explain " Is Spirit " at John 3:6



The context of John 3 is speaking about those with the hope of going to heaven, doesn't mean people won't be in the new earth when the will of God is done . matt 6:9,10 , 2 Pet 3:13



Again: If Jesus was raised in a Spiritual Body, can he still be physical in body ?

Looooool, Emusan has run away . the red part ehn

Barristter07:


Are you minding those deluded ones who don't know the meaning of Almighty.

Hebrew 6:13

"
For when God made a promise to Abraham, since he had no one greater by whom to swear, he swore by himself "

None is greater than God Almighty, He has no God he worships , He is Supreme . Whereas Christ is still under the authority of Another , Automatic clarification . ( 1 Cor 15:27)

Abi

Emusan:


Cry of a deluded soul....

"One Lord is spelled out as Jesus Christ"-1 Cor 8:6

Is there no other biblical evidence that Jesus was called God?

That means the Father isn't Lord according to your deluded mind....you can't run away from this!

Lol, that I designate someone to serve as a director in my company means am no longer a director ? Can't I still fire and dismiss ? Trinity has affected your thinking sir

Maximus69:


You're not looking for who to agree with you, you're just posting all these for the fun of it, right?

Jozzy4:


You didn't address the main issue, though I must commend your insight on what Jesus meant that's if you actually meant what you wrote above at bold.

Now here are my questions :

1. Do you accept Rottennaija is wrong to interpret Jesus words to mean literal eating of emblems ?

2. Do you agree that your pastor and mentor, Paulgrundy of Jwfact is Extremely Wrong below ?



" he [ Jesus ] commands partaking of the emblems as an importance acceptance of him and gaining everlasting life.

John 6:53-57 "Accordingly Jesus said to them: "Most truly I say to YOU, Unless YOU eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, YOU have no life in yourselves. He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I shall resurrect him at the last day; for my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him. Just as the living Father sent me forth and I live because of the Father, he also that feeds on me, even that one will live because of me." - Paulgrundy


Is he right or wrong ?

oh, i now see why you earlier said he was doing copy and paste, so he was repeating this gibberish . .

Jozzy4:
Firstly, you should have replied the earlier post instead of running around .



Romans 6:23 wages of sin is death, But the Gift of God is everlasting life. Raising them is the chance given all to Get the gift, by proving their loyalty



It didn't say wicked ( subjects of Gehenna), the expression is " Unrighteous " ( Act 24:15) referring to those who did bad ignorantly . Their been raised is the opportunity given them to repent and put faith in Christ.

Judgement as good or bad occurs due to CONDUCTS EXHIBITED after ressurection

During this moment, The Bible said inhabitants of the earth will LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS, definitely like Jessicha pointed out, some formerly unrighteous ones would have turn to doing good and gained LIFE , Did they eat Jesus flesh to gain this ?

Thank you o

Jessicha:


Did Jesus came to give eternal life to all humans or only those of his era ?

cc: rottennaija answer this . Jozzy4 , Barristter07

rottennaija:

St. John 5:28 Don't be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God's Son,

St. John 5:29 and they will rise again. Those who have done good will rise to eternal life, and those who have continued in evil will rise to judgment.

The Acts 24:15 I have hope in God, just as these men do, that he will raise both the righteous and the ungodly.

Did you not read? Judgement. Those who did good to resurrection of life, the evil to a resurrection of judgment.

Rom 6:7 a dead man is free from his sin, 23 " wage of sin is death " . so far death has set tgem free from their sins, The point of doing good and evil was after their ressurection . Not what they did before they die. So definitely some unrighteous ones during that time Turn to Doing good and gain life , did they eat Jesus flesh and blood in your idea ? No .

rottennaija:


Jessicha

I thought you had been following my post and response to Jozzy4? You should.

Did Jesus came to give eternal life to all humans or only those of his era ?

rottennaija:


St. John 5:28 Don't be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God's Son,

St. John 5:29 and they will rise again. Those who have done good will rise to eternal life, and those who have continued in evil will rise to judgment.

The Acts 24:15 I have hope in God, just as these men do, that he will raise both the righteous and the ungodly.

For what purpose are they raised ?

Maximus69:


They took the emblem before it was instituted!

Yes o. Since the emblem is important for life how else can anyone gain life without Jesus flesh ?

rottennaija:


Looking for excuse to escape responsibility? Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and a host of other ancient servants of God will be resurrected to life in heaven without partaking the communion. They live at their own time and satisfied the requirement for God's favour and remembrance

Useless excuse
Are there unrighteous people presently?

Jozzy4:


Am not saying he shouldn't eat, the issue is saying when Jesus said UNLESS you eat my flesh and drink my blood , he was referring to memorial ... Which is outrightly wrong, Yet someone Gained life that very day without Eating literal bread.

Eating this flesh suppose to give life o. but it still caused sickness and death , tell me something ?

rottennaija:




Peter, James, John and the other disciples of Jesus had faith in him. They also obeyed Jesus command to eat his flesh and drink his blood. The Bible also shows that Jesus had other disciples, but when he told them of the importance of feeding on his flesh and blood, they would not continue with him any more.

In the account of John 6, here are the point Jesus made. Having faith in the him will lead to everlasting life Jn 6:40. Unless you Eat the flesh and drink the blood, you have no life Jn 6:53. Promises of resurrection is hung on having faith in Jesus, believing that his sayings means life, eating and feeding on his blood and flesh Jn 6:40,47,52-59.

It was for the reason that he mentioned the eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood that many who were his disciples left him. Jesus true disciples of the first century didn't see the partaking of the emblem as abracadabra or something that could be dispense with, Jesus was their passover who was sacrifice. 1 Co 5:7.

Taking a lesson from Jewish way of worship under the mosaic law, the passover lamb was sacrifice and the passover lamb was eaten, by all Israelite and alien resident who accepted God's way of worship.

So no, having faith is Jesus and believing in him is not enough. We must believe in him that his sacrifice is enough to take away our sins, we must believe in his words which will mean life for us, we [color] must [/color] also obey his command to eat his flesh and drink his blood. And no, the whole point of eating his flesh and drinking is blood is not abracadabra anymore than eating of the passover lamb was. It's a very intrinsic part of our worship of God and Christ.

In Mt 28:20, Jesus true followers were to "Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands [Jesus gave.]" It does not belong to us to choose which part to obey and which part to avoid. Unless we pay lip service to our discipleship. And not, it's no abracadabra.

Which will make me ask you this. If the governing body of Jehovah’s Witnesses were to ask publish in their books that taking of the communion is OK for all Jws, will you partake of it?

Millions of righteous and unrighteous persons will be resurrected for the purpose of gaining life. People who never partake of the flesh and wine . Hey! Jesus must be lying that its a must ?

Jozzy4:


You are only creating a fantasy.
Respond first. Let us see how sound you are ! After that your fantasy can be addressed.

You are just giving him assignments

The evidence is staring at you , did the apostles quote LXX or not.

Emusan:



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Did Paul quote LXX at Romans 9:25 or not ? Eleleya

Emusan:


From the Old Testament

I know you don't have sense

Which old testament , Masoretic text or Greek LXX ?

Provide the evidence that it was Septuagint they quoted from.

Romans 9:25 quoted Hosea and said " it is as he says also in Hosea: Those not my people I will Call my people, and her who was not beloved , beloved "

Which version include the bold ?

Your stupidity is higher than heavens

Good description of yourself

Indonesia part!



Proof first that Jehovah is more correct than Yahweh

Neither is Yahweh more correct , we still have Yahveh, Yehowah etc . But the form familiar to the English Speaker as Gods name is Jehovah. U can cry now

Emusan:


Likewise ignorance kill faster than diseases!

Provide the evidence that apostles quoted from it.

You can also see it on Google that they never!

I showed this to my friend just now, It was laughter everywhere. See your life

Maximus69:


OH i'm sorry Sir, i just want to know how they'll quote those verses while speaking before their Jewish brothers without mentioning the divine name JEHOVAH!

The LXX version they quoted have the divine name. Don't mind that one disgracing himself on a public forum .