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rottennaija:
Is that what 1 Jn 5:1 says? How about 1 Jn 5:18?

My friend, explain John 3:8 , why are u running ?

Many of y'all lacked understanding , am sorry to say

rottennaija:
Then you should ask your friends here TATIME and Maximus69. Let them put you through their cherished understanding.

Seriously ? Just say u lacked understanding. They are dixcussin what Heb 12:24 says about Jesus been a mediator of a new covenant . this Is a different context, those in the new covenant have the hope of ruling with Christ, he made this known to his disciples the night he spend last. Not everyone is in this one .

rottennaija:
Read 1 John 5:1

After God choose a person, that manifests in his or her life.

Read John 3:8 and tell me who chooses who is born again .

rottennaija:
Are you ready to accept corrections? Is Jesus your mediator or the GB of Jehovah's Witnesses?

Jesus is my mediator Sir , and every other witness ooo - 1Tim 2:5

Stop peddling false info

rottennaija:
And who says I am still there? What was Jozzy4 challenge? If I am against the false teachings of Jws, I'm glad I am. I owe you no apology

Your card isn't there ? Card carrying member of JW ? I cannot laugh o . leave , if u truly want to obey Jesus and stop reacting around like a pained ex

See Jesus has finish it, whoever is against us Is not for us . search the post and reply it. He trashed your op.

I ask again, what wrong with born again and mediator ? Because JW say only God determine who is born again and not an individual decision caused issues right ?

Maximus69:
Researchers aren't stagnant with discoveries!
Russel NEVER claim to be Jesus so when himself and the group back then began making research, they welcome progressive changes in the policies and organizational directions of the group.

Moreover there was relative peace within the Jewish nation until Jesus established Christianity, ever since then the nation have no more peace till today!
So if this same Jesus now operates in the spirit intelligent person will not expect peace amongst those expecting him but there will be peace in the midst of his true followers just as it was with his first century followers.
Jehovah's Witnesses are ever ready to die for their faith and that is their heritage, before now they do wage war because of land dispute but since the last order from their commander in chief is to keep the sword in it's place, everyone can see that they will never take up weapons against anyone.
You're crying for them when they're dying for their faith, isn't that ironical?
They're not killing people of other faith and their number has increased from tens to millions of happy global family of worshipers. Hmmm, well if you don't have such faith it's not new but don't expect faithful servants of Jehovah to back off from their beliefs simply because of what you think!
Meanwhile the facts still remains :they are people who believe in fellowship of likeminded worshipers so try and fetch a better group for them otherwise no truthfully dedicated member like your Papa and Mama will listen to you!
You don't need to correct the organization,just go round and fetch a better one or better still organize a better performing group. That is what Kumuyi has been trying to do ever since he was disfellowshiped from the group. You too can be like him in starting a group of your own, if it is performing better than the Watchtower group, honest hearted persons will notice it and join you!

Abi, lol those guys behave like a pained EX that remove to move on. Stalking his partner around

rottennaija:
The same is true, Jehovah's Witnesses today aren't ready to accept or make needed corrections in matters where the scriptures are explicit?

Says someone who Is not ready to accept correction , make changes and leave instead of loving his family than Jesus .

Example mediator, Born again, great crowd?

U are the one with false teaching sir. I saw @Jozzy4 challenge your post at Op. And u couldn't say a thing. I think u should reply his post first before claiming we are false on the issue of great crowd instead of peddling false information around . since you against us, you are not for us

On born again and mediator. What's the issue ? cc Jozzy4

Emusan:
But you see something wrong if we apply the prerogative of Jehovah to Jesus, hypocrite!

U are not making any sense sir.

Sharing what you don't understand . Gosh

luluosas:
I don't need their testimony, and in as much as nothing of such was recorded, I have no business to debate over what they saw or not in the their deaths. However, let me share with you the testimony of my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. If you like believe, if you like, argue about it. But know that hell fire indeed exists. Thank you

Luke 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 AND IN HELL HE LIFT UP HIS EYES, BEING IN TORMENTS, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

According to the bolded, The beggar died and it was angels that carry his corpse , Do such occur today ? Enlighten me . since its a testimony .

To where was the beggar carried ? Don't say heaven because Jesus himself said no man has even went to heaven ( John 3:13 )

So where exactly was the beggar carried, u would be surprised your philosophy at church doesn't rhyme with the story .

@red , Do people in hell have their physical bodies ? Lmao, dead peoples tongue dissapear from their skull ?

Enlighten me sir on the above issues the testimony u shared generate

hardasan:
In my bible, Jesus said he and his father are one.
Kindly quote where he said he and his father are two.
Or was Jesus lying when he said He and his father are one

John 8:18 (KJV) I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

John 8:19 (KJV) Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

If you still dont understand the emboldened, let me dramatise it,

Me to Jess:
"My spirit is stronger than my physical body, if you doubt me try to attack me spiritually and my spirit will deal with you"

Jess to me:
Show me your spirit,

Me to jess:
what kinda question is that? Dont u know my spirit is in me?

Example 2:
My actions testify of my integrity. If u wont believe my words, believe me because of my actions which testify of me.

This sentence doesnt prove that I and my actions are different.

That's a wrong hypothesis. He clearly says the witness of TWO men Is true and he applied it to himself and his Father . You and your spirit are not two persons. So that disqualify the hypothetical illustration u gave

And for two persons been one, are couple not two person But ONE according to the Bible ? Does that make them same person ?

luluosas:
My dear Jessica, please, avoid hell fire like a plague. It does exist for sinners who refuses the Lordship of Jesus Christ over them. It is well with you. Happy Easter Sunday

Drop your emotion or what UV been taught and speak with fact
I said no ressurected person died and claim to see heaven or hell. Deal with it.

Obodo999:
So your own view of men is money. God will touch your soul.

Read my post again Sir

Money has its place, but the Op logic falls when we realize that many rich celebs and people Also divorce . which shows money isnt everything.

The problem nowdays is most guys have no value except their money, remove his money and he is totally useless, But a man should be able to have a personality with value in addition to his money, so when he goes broke, the wife still remember there are some qualities he has which she may not found in other men, and so she will endure the moment , of course there are couples who stick to each other despite financial challenges. Value matters

luluosas:
Hmmm. You reason shallow because you have no understanding. Sorry if offended please. Thank you

You who have understanding , why not challenge the point raised ?

Read my post again dear, he already clarified they are TWO. The witness of TWO men is true .

Unless you meant he lied

hardasan:
Jesus never said his father is different from him.
John 14:8 (KJV) Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
John 14:9 (KJV) Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John 14:10 (KJV) Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

The above verses mean that God the Father is living inside Jesus and talking through Jesus of the same God the father who is in heaven or is the scripture lying?

Matthew 28:19 (KJV) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost

Acts 2:38 (KJV) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Here see the how the apostles themselves carried out the command of the Lord Jesus which was given in Matthew ch 28vs19. They understood that the name of the Father is Jesus, the name of the Son is Jesus and the Holy Spirit is the same Jesus. That is why all that the apostles baptised or did, they did in the name of Jesus because God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are titles and the name of God is Jesus shikena.

On a lighter note, U wont bind a demon in the name of the Father and of the son and of the Holy spirit if not, the demon may end up beating the hell outa you like it did in Acts ch 19 vs 13-16 to those exorcists

Jesus doesn't count you worthy of him until you do the needful. If you are so sure you are wrong been a witness, leave !!! No matter what your families will say - Jesus said if your love for family is more bigger than his own, you are not worthy of him.

rottennaija:
Lol... I can actually enumerate your contradictory statements. Jehovah's Witnesses have a group name. It is Satan who does things in the background, without name. If I start mentioning names, it would mean they belong to Jehovah since it is Satan that works on background with names.

Unfortunately for you, if I ask you what's the name of the group the Ethiopian eunuch joined after his converting? How about the one the Cornelius joined? Which group did the apostles John belong to? Can you mentioned them?

While the Bible mentions those apostles in Jerusalem! Other congregations in other places, has it mentioned those of Cornelius? Ethiopian Eunuch? How about the man in Luke 9:49,50? Where it reads

"Master," said John, "we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us." "Do not stop him," Jesus said, "for whoever is not against you is for you."


Christianity world over is one body, all doing Christ work of gathering men for God. Giving them the Christian faith. Splinter groups like Jehovah's Witnesses, Mammon, Seventh days Adventist only see themselves as the only true religion. They have created their own scale of what to use to measure themselves.

When I mentioned those whom God used in the 3rd Century, I mentioned them because I have see God's favour on them. Without God using them, you would not have had the Bible.

Before Jehovah's Witnesses started looking for those to confuse with their own gospel of drawing me after themselves, many true Christians risk their lives to convert people from their traditional religion to the Christian faith, with the hope of living with Christ in heaven.

Do you need names of churches? I can only direct you to one name alone, which is Jesus Christ. He is the only way to salvation. With your faith in him, you will be saved. Churches are just vehicles to direct people to God and Christ, without them, God uses them or individual depending on the situation.

One such vehicle God is using in China is here
https://www.christianity.ca/page.aspx?pid=11173
Read for yourself the remarkable work this faithful disciples of Jesus is doing, even in the face of persecution, imprisonment.

And by the way, church simply mean congregation.

Ion think u understand what you quote, Christianity all over the world Is one body , don't forget whoever is not against you is for you, which means whoever is against you is not for you . with the way this so called Christians attack and AGAINST each other in areas of teaching, u still have the confidence to say they all represent Jesus ?

Emusan:
Then it means you're not a born again Christian because Holy Spirit can never instruct anyone to replace Christ with anything, as He shall not speak of His own!

Lastly, John 16:33 is all about Christ and not congregation .

What's the issue pls ? Ion think he is wrong to apply it to congregation , 1Cor 12:27 " Now you are Christ's body, and each of you individually Is a member " is the congregation not in Christ as seen here ?

hardasan:
You are right by thinking that is the summary of all I said and I would be surprised if you didnt fire questions back at me.

Remember that God is omnipresent meaning he can be everywhere at the same time.
John 3:13 (KJV) And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but He that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Wait, doesn't this mean Jesus is God who was ruling in heaven while on the earth? Is it impossible for God to be in heaven but yet on earth as Jesus?

John 3:12 (KJV) If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

These were the words of Jesus himself.

I love that chapter you quoted because it plainly said there is one God who is Father over all.

How else would Jesus have vindicated himself if not by allowing all to hear the voice from heaven testifying of him?
It was necessary that people witness the supernatural to believe on him. After that day, did heaven open again to call him the beloved son?

Your entire post at red drives to one angle, that is, ONE single person manifesting in different forms . but I disagree , Jesus on earth proved they are TWO different persons, so this shed light on the voice at his baptism.

John 8:17,18 " Also, in your own law it Is written: ' The witness of TWO men is true ' . I am one who bears witness about MYSELF ( person 1) , and the Father who sent me bears witness about me ( person 2) "

To say they are one same person is to make Jesus a liar

luluosas:
Don't worry. Die first, okay. But I pray you will never experience hell fire. Jesus Christ is the only escape route from hell fire. Cheers

Gosh, but some people have died in your Bible and none of them claimed to see hell after they were ressurected , Dorcas, Jairus daughter, Eutichus , widows son. 4 days dead Lazarus of bethany, are u saying the Bible accounts are scam ?

hardasan:
Jesus asked:
Have you been so long with me and you dont know me? Whoso has seen me has seen the father, John 14 8-21

I and my father are one John Ch 10 vs 30

Jesus is the beginning and the ending.
In Genesis ch 1 vs 1: In the beginning God made heaven and earth.
In Revelation ch 22 vs 21: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all

Deut ch 6 vs 4: Hear ye O Israel, the Lord your God is one God.

Mark ch 4 vs 11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

At the mention of the name Jesus, every knee must bow, of things in heaven, on earth and things beneath the earth and every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the Glory of God the Father.
Philipians ch 2 vs 10
So my sis, at the mention of Jesus, the father must bow and even the Holy Spirit must confess that Jesus is the Lord.
Normally, this should be a sin because the children should honor their fathers and Jesus should lead by example but the bible said that all the bowing and confessions are to the Glory of God the father.

How can the bowing of a father to his son bring glory to the father? It doesnt make any sense.
But if Jesus is the father and the father is Jesus then he doesnt need to bow to his own name and all the bowing will be to the glory of the father who is Jesus.

Furthermore, you as an individual is the daughter of somebody, the sister of somebody, the friend of somebody, will be or is the wife of somebody, will be or is the mother of somebody and you have an official name. Yet your children call you mum, siblings call you sis, parents call you daughter. So I am not wrong to say you are the mother the daughter and the wife. Does that make you 3 or 4 in one ? If you as a human doesn't need to be 4 in one to play these roles easily, how much more the God who created you?

In creation He is the Father,
To save us from the curse of death, he came as a man ( The Great Emmanuel: God with us) his name is Jesus, the word of God entered Mary and she bare [b]a living word[]. (In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and []the word was God[]) Jesus became known as the son of God,
In order for Jesus to dwell in us and be with us even till the end of the world, Jesus returned on the day of Pentecost as the Holy Ghost. If Jesus is the Holy Ghost then which Holy Ghost did the angel that spoke to Mary speak about?

Who is inside us? The Holy Spirit.
Who promised to be with us and in us? Jesus (Matthew ch 28 vs 20).
So Jesus is the Holy Spirit who is inside us.
How many spirits does God have? In Genesis ch 1, the Spirit of God moved on the surface of the waters so where did the Holy Spirit come from? Does God have 2 spirits? No, its the same Great Spirit from Genesis ch 1 who put himself in us as the Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost.

So do you see the same God in these 3 titles?

Remember that God is omnipresent meaning he can be anywhere at the same time.
John 3:13 (KJV) And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Wait, doesn't this mean Jesus is God who was ruling in heaven while on the earth? Is it impossible for God to be in heaven but yet on earth as Jesus?

John 3:12 (KJV) If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

These were the words of Jesus himself.

May the Holy Spirit expand these words in your heart in Jesus name. Amen.

I like to think your entire post is summed up in the bolded, but I disagree, Jesus Is not the Father. .. The voice from heaven during Jesus baptism called him " My son " ?

Is that the voice of Jesus himself whom Is getting baptize ?

How can anyone else refer to the Father of ALL (Eph 4:6 ) as " My son " ?

hardasan:
Jesus asked:
Have you been so long with me and you dont know me? Whoso has seen me has seen the father, John 14 8-21

I and my father are one John Ch 10 vs 30

Jesus is the beginning and the ending.
In Genesis ch 1 vs 1: In the beginning God made heaven and earth.
In Revelation ch 22 vs 21: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all

Deut ch 6 vs 4: Hear ye O Israel, the Lord your God is one God.

Mark ch 4 vs 11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

At the mention of the name Jesus, every knee must bow, of things in heaven, on earth and things beneath the earth and every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the Glory of God the Father.
Philipians ch 2 vs 10
So my sis, at the mention of Jesus, the father must bow and even the Holy Spirit must confess that Jesus is the Lord.
Normally, this should be a sin because the children should honor their fathers and Jesus should lead by example but the bible said that all the bowing and confessions are to the Glory of God the father.

How can the bowing of a father to his son bring glory to the father? It doesnt make any sense.
But if Jesus is the father and the father is Jesus then he doesnt need to bow to his own name and all the bowing will be to the glory of the father who is Jesus.

Furthermore, you as an individual is the daughter of somebody, the sister of somebody, the friend of somebody, will be or is the wife of somebody, will be or is the mother of somebody and you have an official name. Yet your children call you mum, siblings call you sis, parents call you daughter. So I am not wrong to say you are the mother the daughter and the wife. Does that make you 3 or 4 in one ? If you as a human doesn't need to be 4 in one to play these roles easily, how much more the God who created you?

In creation He is the Father,
To save us from the curse of death, he came as a man ( The Great Emmanuel: God with us) his name is Jesus, the word of God entered Mary and she bare [b]a living word[]. (In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and []the word was God[]) Jesus became known as the son of God,
In order for Jesus to dwell in us and be with us even till the end of the world, Jesus returned on the day of Pentecost as the Holy Ghost. If Jesus is the Holy Ghost then which Holy Ghost did the angel that spoke to Mary speak about?

Who is inside us? The Holy Spirit.
Who promised to be with us and in us? Jesus (Matthew ch 28 vs 20).
So Jesus is the Holy Spirit who is inside us.
How many spirits does God have? In Genesis ch 1, the Spirit of God moved on the surface of the waters so where did the Holy Spirit come from? Does God have 2 spirits? No, its the same Great Spirit from Genesis ch 1 who put himself in us as the Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost.

So do you see the same God in these 3 titles?

Remember that God is omnipresent meaning he can be anywhere at the same time.
John 3:13 (KJV) And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Wait, doesn't this mean Jesus is God who was ruling in heaven while on the earth? Is it impossible for God to be in heaven but yet on earth as Jesus?

John 3:12 (KJV) If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

These were the words of Jesus himself.

May the Holy Spirit expand these words in your heart in Jesus name. Amen.

I like to think your entire post is summed up in the bolded, but I disagree, Jesus Is not the Father. .. The voice from heaven during Jesus baptism called him " My son " ?

Is that the voice of Jesus himself whom Is getting baptize ?

How can anyone else refer to the Father of ALL (Eph 6:4 ) as " My son " ?

hardasan:
Jesus asked:
Have you been so long with me and you dont know me? Whoso has seen me has seen the father, John 14 8-21

I and my father are one John Ch 10 vs 30

Jesus is the beginning and the ending.
In Genesis ch 1 vs 1: In the beginning God made heaven and earth.
In Revelation ch 22 vs 21: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all

Deut ch 6 vs 4: Hear ye O Israel, the Lord your God is one God.

Mark ch 4 vs 11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

At the mention of the name Jesus, every knee must bow, of things in heaven, on earth and things beneath the earth and every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the Glory of God the Father.
Philipians ch 2 vs 10
So my sis, at the mention of Jesus, the father must bow and even the Holy Spirit must confess that Jesus is the Lord.
Normally, this should be a sin because the children should honor their fathers and Jesus should lead by example but the bible said that all the bowing and confessions are to the Glory of God the father.

How can the bowing of a father to his son bring glory to the father? It doesnt make any sense.
But if Jesus is the father and the father is Jesus then he doesnt need to bow to his own name and all the bowing will be to the glory of the father who is Jesus.

Furthermore, you as an individual is the daughter of somebody, the sister of somebody, the friend of somebody, will be or is the wife of somebody, will be or is the mother of somebody and you have an official name. Yet your children call you mum, siblings call you sis, parents call you daughter. So I am not wrong to say you are the mother the daughter and the wife. Does that make you 3 or 4 in one ? If you as a human doesn't need to be 4 in one to play these roles easily, how much more the God who created you?

In creation He is the Father,
To save us from the curse of death, he came as a man ( The Great Emmanuel: God with us) his name is Jesus, the word of God entered Mary and she bare [b]a living word[]. (In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and []the word was God[]) Jesus became known as the son of God,
In order for Jesus to dwell in us and be with us even till the end of the world, Jesus returned on the day of Pentecost as the Holy Ghost. If Jesus is the Holy Ghost then which Holy Ghost did the angel that spoke to Mary speak about?

Who is inside us? The Holy Spirit.
Who promised to be with us and in us? Jesus (Matthew ch 28 vs 20).
So Jesus is the Holy Spirit who is inside us.
How many spirits does God have? In Genesis ch 1, the Spirit of God moved on the surface of the waters so where did the Holy Spirit come from? Does God have 2 spirits? No, its the same Great Spirit from Genesis ch 1 who put himself in us as the Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost.

So do you see the same God in these 3 titles?

Remember that God is omnipresent meaning he can be anywhere at the same time.
John 3:13 (KJV) And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Wait, doesn't this mean Jesus is God who was ruling in heaven while on the earth? Is it impossible for God to be in heaven but yet on earth as Jesus?

John 3:12 (KJV) If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

These were the words of Jesus himself.

May the Holy Spirit expand these words in your heart in Jesus name. Amen.

I like to think your entire post is summed up in the bolded, but I disagree, Jesus Is not the Father. .. The voice from heaven during Jesus baptism called him " My son " ?

Is that the voice of Jesus himself whom Is getting baptize ?

How can anyone else refer to the Father of ALL (Eoh 6:4 ) as " My son " ?

hardasan:
Says a mammy water worshipper
The Lord Jesus is the only true God, without him, there nothing made that was made.

The earlier you accept that the better for you

Going by John 17:3. He said his Father is the only true God not himself

Morning dear

luluosas:
Your eyes will clear you you discover that hell fire exists at your death, but I pray that you will never end up in hell fire in Jesus name. Amen

Several people died and rise up in the bible, which of them ever said they saw hell ?

rottennaija:
That is true and someday, a time will come when it doesn't matter or wouldn't matter any more. However, we are still humans .

Coward , you ain't worth Jesus . he is right.

Janosky:
Buda, pls go and do your investigations thoroughly.
No discipline is joyful and bliss to the one who errs & receives it.
These individuals are just disgruntled, their pain no get end because of bitterness they refused to move on. It's pointless pretending to serve God with a heart filled with bitterness.
If Man utd no fit you ,PSG no dey? Ajax no dey? Chelsea no dey? What of Leeds Utd? what of AC Milan?

last last,Jehovah's standard must be upheld. 1 Cor5:1-13

Lol, like a pained EX ...

rottennaija:
Should leaving the religion forces you to lose your family until you rejoin the religion? Isn't that coercion?

Why do you value losing your family ? Didn't Jesus said anyone whose love for family is. greater than him is not worth him ?

You are deluding yourself

[quote author=Peacefullove post=71142001][/quote]
Ewww , you have gotten way too logical. Lol

Very simple thing hell didn't release those in the sea . which automatically means they are not there . I think am getting you


But for the records hell in that verse can be better translated as " Grave " , to bring out the clear meaning . hell is always a wrong translation. Do you know ?

Primesky:
Mr. Twister!. Stop behaving like you haven't been schooled about the subject. By the Help of the Holy Spirit, I educated you on the mystery, but as usual, instead of accepting it, you waved it aside as nonsense, and still maintain your ignorant posture.

When the sea and hell gave up their dead, where did they go?.

According to you and watch tower, when a man dies, everything about him is gone, his body rots away. For those who died in the sea, fish and crab would have eaten their flesh, so what is actually rising?.

You people always latch on a verse of scripture to perpetuate lies and false teaching.

Revelation 20:13 deals with Ressurection that explains your questions, Stop this name calling . You don't even answer the question peacefullove asked.

why is it that those in the Sea don't belong to hell ?? ?

Tell us why Jesus Christ warned about hell and mentioned fire, and also said it's unquenchable?.
Don't twist it o.

Deuteronomy 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

You said hell is grave, so according to the above scripture, does grave have a lowest and upper level. In this part of the world, we dig up to 6feets, is that the lowest hell?.

Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Mark 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

James 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

So tell us, is the fire attached to hell in the above verses a figure of speech, what figure of speech is hell fire?.

Again I ask you, after the death of Jesus Christ, he was buried. So how come a dead and buried person will also be preaching to spirits in prison?.

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.


Please be honorable enough to tell us what verse 20 is talking about. Whose spirits is that passage talking about that Jesus Christ went to preach to, and where?.

Lol, @ peacefullove come and see question.

Primesky:
Are you also one of them?. Did you even read the reply?, never trust this JWs except you're one of them.

Peacefullove left out everything said, and focused on the part that gives him comfort. Is pity this people call themselves witnesses of Jehovah.

I repeat, there is no way a man who does not believe in man having a spirit, soul and body can understand the scriptures!.

Jesus rose bodily from the tomb on the third day, ascended bodily to heaven after forty days!. Peacefullove, do you accept this bodily resurrection and ascension?. May God help this people o.

That someone holds a contrary opinion to you doesn't mean you should resort to name calling. Either he is JW or not . the question is: is he making is point clear ? How tenable is his defences ? That should be the focus , not all this hollabubu name calling you are resorting to.

What if you later discover he is not even JW but an agnostic . Behave Sir

Eponyeeboz:
So, the Ikeji sisters are destined to be second choices and caretakers of other people's men.

No, they are not destined . they made their own. Choice dear

But until now, I didn't know Laura Ikeji's husband also has Baby Mama , she isn't even his first . maybe wealth is not everything .

Peacefullove:
I always call this guy assumption master and a liar , Can you all now see why?

Primesky says Jesus went to heaven the same say he died !!! Hahahahahahaha

What did Jesus and the Bible say ?

I did not ascend to the Father - John 20 vs 17

He didn't go to heaven until 40 days after been raised up - Act 1 vs 3,9

Primesky , When will you repent of telling lies in the name of doctrine ?

Seriously someone can be so blind to assume Jesus ascend to heaven the day he died just to protect his opinion . Lol really ?