Well, he just wont let me rest, so i gave him my candid opinion:

1. Go for a deliverance session because of his involvement in oath taking. Fast and pray fervently to be delivered, and if possible do it with strong men of God.

2. Embark on a restitution process. I expect the man of God that will join him in prayer to tell him how to go about it.

3. Nevertheless, i suggested that he should sit her down and agree on a repayment plan. Let him and her calculate an average of how much he was getting a month for the sponsorship and agree on the total amount she spent on him. After which, they will agree on how much he will add to it as interest on the money, because it will be perceived to be a loan now. Then they will decide how much he will refund every month.

4. The psychological effect of the break will be borne by both and i doubt if anyone can fully pay for that.

That was my advice to him. I hope i have not mislead him. I would rather advise anyone to settle with his maker than patching a relationship with man.

Break! Well, it depends on what a break means to the parties involved. A break to me means no more relationship. If that is it, then each one is free to pursue his/her dream independent of the other. Nevertheless, one can not rule out the possibility of reconciliation. So if they eventually come together later, it shouldnt look as if they had a short break to resume later but that somehow, fortune or love or whatever has brought them together again. Nevertheless, i think a break shouldnt be encouraged, when the partners still want each other because a little crack will soon enlarge to a big hole and later a gulf between them.

A confession too bitter to swallow. I would react same way, if i were your boyfriend. Learn to keep mum. Dont answer any question you are not asked. Just move on, life has a way of paying back, life could still compensate yopu for saying the truth and opening up. All the best!

Tattooboy:

The guy is insane, why his own born again say make he no marry the girl, not born again does not mean u're an unbeliver, get that into your thick skull dude.

Do you really think you need to be insulting to pass a message across? I don't think it is necessary. Please, let's keep foul language off this thread and dialogue like truly matured people,

Gbemyte:

when u knw that u ll honestly advice the guy to leave her,why did u bring it to house for us to advice u? why is he hidding under the canopy of born again.

I havent made up my mind to tell him that. That is just my opinion, but others could have a better solution, that is why i am asking them. Besides, one doesnt rush to give advice in this kind of situation. Love relationships are usually delicate. When the have reconciled now, they will start sharing what advice this person and that person gave and one could become a bad person to either of the parties. So i am taking my time before advising.

D-reloaded:

what exactly if your friend's concept of being "born again"

There are no two ways of being born again. It is simple. If a man is in Christ, he is a new creature. Old things are passed away, behold all things are become new.

big father:

Na by force there are better ways to make someone a born again. He she give her enough time and see reasons to be a born again !

Big father, that is my fear now. Like i am thinking, even if the lady says she is born again now, it will not be genuine. It will be like she is coerced into doing it, whereas, it should be a free will.

ifyalways:

Orants i can feel you too. . . .its a cross road.
well,whatever he decides to do,i wish him well.
i blame him for taking the oath,for letting a woman sponsor him and for knowing the truth so late.i blame the lady for taking an oath with a guy,sponsoring him and even given him an escape route.Had she trapped him with pregnacy or marriage since. . .your guy today would have no choice than to make her get born again or live to endure her fetish ways _{as you put it}
whatever for whoever,goodluck i say

Hmm, Ify, dont make that mistake o. That one is pregnant for you does not make her your wife o. You know how many single mothers are in Lagos alone now. Marriage should be something agreed to by both parties, dont you think so?

Hmm, i wish you were in my office, you would have had a rethink. my brother, men do fall in love. This guy, my colleague, cried like a baby when it seemed he was going to lose a girlfriend of three years. Tell me, what havent they done together before. it was pure love that made him cry like a baby. i had never seen a guy cry like that. Not because of a lady. but i saw this when he was narrating the incident to me. I had to intervene and talk sense into the lady that if she lost that guy, she would never find love again. It is rare to find men who fall in love like that, but they do exist. Men do fall in love.

Hmm, ifyalways, i understand your point because you are a lady. but is it not said that even if it takes you ages to discover that you are on a wrong part, it shouldnt take you more than minutes to quit the path? look, the guy has been going in a delicate way, now he has discovered, should he continue in it? it is not as if the lady is no longer rich. She still is. But she doesnt want to accept the guy's new found love- his faith. I can see a crisis already and the best way to avoid it, if you ask me, is to part ways. Honestly!

well, let's look at the issue from another angle. I havent told my friend this, but that is the way i feel. Now, if a lady finds it difficult to follow your belief and insists on marrying you, it tells me something. One, it may be difficult agreeing on issues in such a home.

2. Two, it may be difficult to manage such a woman, looking at it from the vantage point of her having more financial muscle than the guy.

3. I think such a lady will also be diabolical. For God's sake, why should he make the poor boy take an oath of loyalty or was it allegiance before he could help. i think she is diabolical. I have told my friend immediately, that he made a mistake by taking an oath, but i guess he was just desperate to improve himself and never thought he could be born again. i guess he didnt see anything wrong with oath taking then. But really, i wont like to ask him to go ahead and marry the girl.

But what if he marries her and she takes her back into the world? remember what Jazebel did to the most wise king Solomon, in all his wisdom? Do you still think he should go ahead and ignore that fact?

and what if she's careful enough to stay away from such things? i guess it will stil be love. yet there is no hurting. Except you want to see it that she may be hurting herself by staying off such things for my sake. In which case the sacrifices we make for our lovers' sake may then be hurting for us. But it is not the lover that is hurting us directly? Are we saying samething?

jkpretty:



If it doesn't hurt, then its not love.

Hmmm, baby, could you please throw more light on this? Must it hurt to be love?

A friend came to me for a piece of my mind on this issue. He has a girlfriend who has been very supportive. Infact, she sponsored him in the university. While in the university, he got born again. He told the girl and tried to convince her to get born again too but she will hear nothing of such. Before she agreed to sponsor him, they took an oath. Now he is out of the university and does not want to live in sin because he has seen the light. He doesnt want to displease God by being unequally yoked to an unbeliever. Yet he doesnt want to offend the lady and violate the oath. The lady too is adamant about not changing to been born again.

What do i tell him to do o?

Song by Terrakota, i guess;

You are too young to fall in love. When you know the meaning of love, all the , you feel for love will pall. loving is not a child's play. That is why it hurts.

Hmm, what a sweet slap! Anyway, who told her that aggression is the best way to express displeasure. Hm, i pity her. The day monkey go go market and im no go come back, , hm

janami:


Aha! i still prefer molue to that kabukabu (did u say taxi?) u hired the last time.

hmm, janami, which time you come lagos sef? What is kabukabu? What ios taxi? Let me tell you, kabukabu means "Cab you, cab you" i give you a cab you dey complain. Okay, na that molue you go enter go beach on saturday o. No wonder you were standing up in the cab you, cab you.

Hmm, wat about the roadside counter chemists? Have you seen them lately? All the drugs that are supposed to be in an airconditioned environment will be displayed on open counter in the sun. They also prescribe: red, black and white. You will be shocked how ignorance and self medication has complicated some people's cases. I wish we had a responsible government to deliver the ignoramus of a people.

janami:

abi . u shld ve seen how one woman was extolling the virtues of one powder substance like that to be taken wit small stout three times a day for increased strenght the powder substance sef . . . . and people were rushing it

Hmm, u mean fine babe like you still dey enter molue? I thought you were a taxi, baby. Anyway, when next i take you out, we wont take a taxi o. We will enter molue.

ifyalways:

Poverty,Illiteracy,lawlessness . . . . .on part of the seller and buyer.funny enough some of these their concotions esp those for skin infections seems to work the real dangerous ones are those powders that cure 21 diseases in 21 days lol
who is to be blamed really
buyer,seller,lawless society or the molue driver ?

Ify, why did you ever try it ? Was it to know if it works or not? Hmmm, dont be caught there again o.

Okay, opokonwa, lets look at it this way; you have a job that you are really tired of because your boss is impossible and the pay is not fantastic. Now someone tells you of another jopb with a better pay and a better boss, wont you go there?

Will you listen if anyone tells you that you should stay for job security all because the devil you know is better than the devil you dont know?

Ms. Lurker:

Hmmm.

Well, the first would be if wanted to be a fully monagamous relationship. If we both wanted to be together, I would want us to discuss how frequently we would be in contact, what means, how often we will try and visit each other.

If we still wanted to be together but weren't sure when would be in the same place then, I would be open to casually dating other people (NOT SAYING HAVING SEX), but keeping each other in the loop.

I don't know. I think if both parties are sure that they want to make it, than they will but putting crazy expectations that may or may not be realistic concerning the circumstances may lead to failure.

If we are going to be seperated for a few months up to a year, that's one thing. But if it goes beyond that and we still aren't talking about us moving to be with one another than I think I would be more open to us being together but if someone else strikes our fancy we can go out with them.

Hmm, this sounds like the beginning of the end.

Hmm, you think he is still in power with all the"nyansh opening" that they are doing with Iyabo's case and the fradulent award of contract cases of PHCN? my brother, OBJ is no longer in power. The power is only shifting gradually. by the time the whole scene is properly cast, you will see.

iice:

Actually an angel can fall like the devil can rise
don't follow that saying. . .people will always disappoint you be they angels or demons

hmm may be you are right that an angel can fall but is it true that a devil can rise. Dont forget, for the past 20years that the rain has been beating the leopard, it has not succeeded in washing off it's spot o.

Ms. Lurker:

If I had a good reason to wait and so did the person I would BUT we would have to discuss the exact parameters of our relationship.

Hmm, parameters! Good. So what are the likely parameters that could sustain a relationship from a distance and guarantee that there wont be any disappointments?

ty4real:

Bros leave stories jooo,I have made my mind clear,if she can't come back for us to get married and I work on my joing her,sh eshuold just marry her PHD and Masters ooo,You expect to keep waiting abi for her to spend the whole time and now call or chat with me and say she is sorry,she has gotten another guy right there with her in the school.Abeg,I move on very fast with my life as in move at an accelearted speed with my life!Once baeten twice shy ooo!You have to shine your eyes at times

Okay, you are right. but if she agrees to come home, marry you and wants to go back to finish her programme, will you take that?

yimiton, if the buses are too cheap, they will find it difficult to maintain the busses and pay the staff very well. I guess if it costs same as others but you can be sure of its timeliness, orderliness and comfort plus convenience in the buses, it should still be preferable. The sanity in the bus should be enough to attract extra pay, if one can get it.

but this idea of hanging is what i dint like. It reduces it to Molue level.

adekennis:

I beg body no be fire wood oo!

Hmm, so is it possible to satisfy the body on one hand and still hold on for the lover on the other hand?

Hmm but now that he is no longer in power, shouldnt things be different?

ty4real:

@Poster!
Mr Oga how do you mean by lover?Is it committed lover as in marriage(Cause why on earth are we going to be separated for that long,omo men we have to seriously work on it fast ,fast!but if it a dating lover,I can manage and wait for at least 1year but after that eyes go clear,people wey know know go know,I will move very fast be that ooooo !

suppose you are committed but not married and she decides to go abroad for her Masters programme? And after the Masters she decides to do her PHD but she still says she is interested in the relationship. she actually calls and chats with you at intervals. but you havent seen for three years and her programme may last the next two years. And you are not even sure if she will come home immediately after the programme.

Busta:

Out of sight is out of mind!

Hmm, but what of telephone, chat and all that?

Are you saying "no telephone can take the place of your smiles"

Well, i haven't taken but i do see them on my route. The ones that move from Iyana ipaja to lagos are usually prompt and never over filled. We usually meet at Maryland or Bank Anthony. Since they have been consistent in meeting at some points and i usually get to office early, i think they have tried.

Nevertheless, what you witnessed yesterday could mean some things:

1. Good advert of the programme sensitised people well to demand the service, so the over crowding. So kudos to the good campaign.

2. The hold ups will always be there as long as they are using the same route with all other vehicles. There are points where the routes merge. Maryland , Ikorodu road, etc so the hold ups will come.

3. All programmes will have their teething problems. So let us give them some time to master the system.

4. The waiting for 1 1/2 hours could be caused by hold ups too and it could be because of underestimation of what people's response to the programme will be. looking at some threats from the commercial bus drivers and so on.

Nevertheless, you are very right. they need to improve. But at thesame time, lets give them time to shape up.

Hmm, may be Oyo state is not the only place o. I have always known that the south west will find it difficult to remove the governors. Look at Osun too and i wont be surprised if Ondo too follows suit. It's a pity that the south west has refused to follow the truth pattern that the northern part and the eastern part are now enjoying. Only God can deliver them.

babycool:

Bros is this sounds like the lyrics of some love song. Are you a song writer?

Not a song writer baby, am just a listner and a lover of love song.

Babycool, have you had to wait for your lover? How long can you wait?