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Okocha didn’t reach his true potential but still surpassed many.

andrewbaba44:
Anyway one is a defensive midfielder and one is an attacking , so i am not comparing them.

Who talent help? many talented players didn't fulfill their potentials thou

There are very few players in football history that are usually marked by not 2, 3 alone but 4 or even more players at a time in a game. If only Okocha played less for fun, he would be among football’s greatest in terms of achievement as well.

JayJay may not have played for big teams but how did he fare when he played against them? If you talking achievement Mikel wins. Talent-wise, wise, Mikel should not be mentioned where JJ dey.

andrewbaba44:
Everyone knows jay jay is good

Abeg Comot testimonial game for here bros

So now you want us to rate jay jay performance at the Turkish league ,when almost all of you here speak badly of the Turkish league apart from me and few others ,wonders shall never end ,suddenly you want us to look at jay jay performance there (and yes he wasn’t bad there ) you guys should try and practice what you preach

I am not comparing jay jay to Mikel as Mikel is a defensive player and jay jay is not so there are 2 different players

But I am saying jay jay didn’t achieve any meaningful thing ,some Nigerians are refusing to accept that

Jay jay never even played at the big stage obi played ,maybe he is unlucky or bad advisors according to someone here

Instead of some of you to accept ,the other guy was here speaking down of Mikel saying he is a squad player ,someone that started more than 150 epl games in 249 appearance

Make I end here

Lol.

Talking about the Olympics, Okocha’s influence wasn’t always obvious but he never played to the gallery. Else we would never have won gold.

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andrewbaba44:
Thank you jare

Mikel is the hero in this area

Even Kanu was the hero in okocha era

When you say consistent, in what sense do you mean?

Danielnino00:
IMO, Okocha has more impact with the teams he played for than Mikel...
Mikel wasn't as consistent as Okocha..

In national team colours,we clearly know who was more indispensable..

But like u said,both players are legends in their own ways...

Which is why I said conversion rate. He made
So many attempts at goal. And you are right he saw football more as fun. He really loved the game.

Danielnino00:
Okocha's end product isn't really as poor as some people like to make it look...
He still managed to score over 100 career goals in over 500 appearances as an attacking midfielder...
I believe he would have achieved much more if he was more serious on the pitch..

Okocha was an entertainer in an era that was not only result driven but also pro football artistry. An era that also puts emphasis on the best entertaining team. Football was more exciting in that era than now.
In Nigeria, people wanted to see Okocha play just for his skills. The love for
Okocha was crazy.
In Mikel’s time it was more about the science of the game. Mikel did not match Okocha’s following in the national scene. Having said that, both players are legends in their own right. Kanu had a very successful club career and his heroics at the Olympics will never be forgotten.
Personally I rate Okocha highest because he did what he wanted to do against any player any day anytime even when they knew his intention. He scored crazy goals although his conversion rate was average at best. He is an untouchable talent. Okocha May not have played for big teams but he always left behind unforgettable memories in every league he went. Kanu was a bundle of class. Mikel is the hero of his era.

safarigirl:
Guys, there's an argument going on on Twitter about Nigerian legends

The players in contention are JJOkocha, Kanu Nwankwo and Mikel Obi. Some are arguing that Mikel doesn't belong on the list, claiming JJ carried the team's he plays for and deserves better than to be named alongside Mikel.

Y'all know how I feel about Mikel, so, for the sake of neutrality, do you guys agree with this notion?

Cc tbaba1234, icon4s, thesupernerd, joebie, andrew44, komekn, darkelf, bascovanveli

oga you are somehow.. you should just ask yourself why is there a lockdown in the first place? Is it because of the death rate or the mode at which it spreads?

somehow:
Mosquito kills about 321 people daily in Nigeria which is about 95000 yearly, yet no sit at home, no lock down, no media noise, but a virus that kills people with weak immune system which are mostly infants (very low ) and old people above 60 years with a fatality rate of less than 4% has locked down everywhere including Nigeria?


One person dead in 3 months plus in Nigeria from the virus, yet everywhere is locked down?

Book haram has killed more than 15,000 Nigerians, no lock down
Bad road
Bad hospitals
Armed robberies etc have killed more people than the so called virus, yet no lock down

Lassa fever still killing Nigerians in the hundreds, no lock down
Ebola killed thousands, no Lock down.


Please what makes this so called virus special that we are being made to shut down everything?

Is it because the elderly ones its attacking are mostly leaders of the world?

I need to understand what made this different!

A country were her citizens needs pictures to be assured that the president is working.
That business could have been handled privately, else make it a live TV session for all to see.

komekn:
What does this prove.

That's he is well, capable and full of zest for the job ❓

Every well meaning national leader is giving daily press briefings and not reading from a script. They are taking questions from a wide and varied selection of the media.

Our response was to limit the media representation at state house that gives the opportunity for disinformation.

There are now even more unanswered questions.

Collins would have scored a hatrick. He hit the bar three times.
Osimhen with a lovely tap in and Simon converted from the spot.

Bolowolowo:
The game was a bit underwhelming, but the W is all that matters. Osibaba on target as always. Would love to see Dessers get more minutes. Thoughts on the game??

My landlord needs to chill. I’m practicing social distancing with the internet as well and they expecting me to pay online. Haha

I sabi una well well. Nice!

andrewbaba44:
Delta state, Kwale tribe, most people do call us delta igbo

So where u from specifically, make u no change mouth again.

andrewbaba44:
Aboki ke

I said I earlier nah ,some people self know ,I just claim to be from north to find trouble that day

Komekn na warri

Lol

komekn:
Oniovo l suprise oh.

I didn’t marry that type. But who knows if she is making silent noise lol. Make my wife no come here catch me. Lol

Odunayaw:
The way married men use to scare me as per "wife noise" en

So all this while you no be aboki? So u be my neighbor? Chai. Komekn come see person.

andrewbaba44:
Lol me saying my biggest dream is to travel abroad ,Never ,no com lie for my head oooo

Not that I am here all time ,I do have my time off ,don’t make it look like that

Concerning sayin I am from north na joke okay ,am from delta state ,and besides this one no consign werin I talk

Biko no come lie for Andrew head oo

Announce that you want to lead a revolution, yiu go know how far.

jihday:
For me, the spread of this virus has nothing to do with the govt, but the recklessness and nonchalant attitude of citizens. Despite several pleas from the FG that abroad returnees should self-isolate when they come back but you see them going to banks, attending Amvca etc. It's time we as citizens start to play our part in governance, no be everytime be govt

Komekn

andrewbaba44:
You mean blueelf?

He always had good words for Ighalo.

andrewbaba44:
I have also missed your comments criticizing some of our under par players

But you do get it wrong most times thou

Sad

BascoVanVeli:
Apologies but I have to add that Emmanuel Ogbu also tragically passed away along with Ifeanyi George yesterday. What makes this sad is that this was one of those young players that many of us have craved for in the NPFL. RIP

I have already answered your question indirectly. Give what belongs to Caesar to Caesar, and what belongs to God, to God. Didn’t the scripture say God gave the government the authority? So who pass who? .

AndSunGorilla:
Am not referring to a time like this, of course staying home at this time doesn't prevent true worship. The question refers to those places where freedom of worship is nonexistent. So the question again is should d underground churches in those places cease acticities in order to obey the government?

There is a context to this. The government is there to maintain law an order. Where there is lawlessness nothing can work. Staying at home in this time cannot prevent you from worshipping.

AndSunGorilla:
Joe, how can we discuss this further outside this thread. Na im be say all those doing underground churches in North Korea, Pakistan and Iran should stop doing their secret church activities and fully obey the governments.

All the answers are in the Bible

Subzero047:
Try

You want my response?

Subzero047:
I asked my overreligious sister, If God cared about the prayer warriors all over the world why didn't he stop the virus?

That had her thinking for some seconds

Komekn na Yobo personal assistant now. Mission accomplished. Lol

Odunayaw:
E be like say topic don finish for here. Where is komekn na

For those who profess Christianity, in a time like this, this scripture is very relevant. Rom. 13: 1-7

Okay each religion and their mission. Don’t complain about the other religion’s mission and question others choices

ChrisKels:
Because we never bothered to preach it to others or force others to accept it?

My point is ancestral worship ets has always been around. Everyone is free to practice whatever.

LaMujer:
I no get energy to dey drag religion faa.

It will be well with all of us.

To each their own

Ok well but with the Bible, the gospel will have to preached to all nations before the end will come. So different missions. The reality is staring at our faces.

LaMujer:
Because they didn't take it outside their community like the Abrahamic religions did

Well I was just speculating.but neither did the Bible say Jesus was born white. Were the Jews even white? The west also adopted Christianity and made it theirs just as much as some of our Christian denominations have been very much Africanized.

andrewbaba44:
I have never seen a black Egyptian thou

Am familiar with most of them

The Egyptians were black for the most part. Christianity started with the Jews that accepted Christ. Paul took it to most of the non-Jews. Magic, ancestral worship etc has always been around.
It’s inevitable that the Bible has circulated in almost uncountable numbers in numerous languages. With our god of iron etc we could not conquer countries so what do u expect? Continue to complain? Whose fault is it?

andrewbaba44:
What do Nigerians know about religion ?

No be the religion wey our papa and mama train us with we Dey follow ?

Is there even a black man in the Bible ?

Na we carry religion pass for head and na we borrow am

Make I just end here before e go turn debate