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Let's not forget Moses Simon did very well at the Europa league. And Simon have been in SE and have had decent games. With the national team,
changes need to be done gradually, of course as long as we are winning. However, Onyekuru is better, based on recent club stats. Again, we can say based on other factors it could tilt the other way. Let me say again, coaches make decisions based on various factors. Let's not say Simon has past glory alone. If you ask me who I prefer, I will say Onyekuru. But to say there is foul play in selection, that's another matter. You are not the coach, you don't know what he is looking for. He has ran the rule over Onyekuru as well.

Mickael2:
Onyekuru scored more than Moses Simon this past season and this season neither of them has registered any goal but at least Onyekuru has created an assist from one if his rebound strikes, please tell me how Onyekuru is not better

The problem with tribalism is the same as racism. We are raised up to have these sentiments. We are not born with the sentiments. Which is why a section of the country may feel short changed in any specific sector in the country, even though evidences show that it is not entirely true. For example I am not an Igbo person, and I'm sure i've had only few people from my tribe ever play for SE, but the fact remains that Igbos have produced most of the talents in Nigeria especially in recent times. The Okochas, Nwankwo's etc did not make it to Nigeria's respective teams because of their tribe but their talent. If I am making a case for any player to be invited I don't think tribe, but when someone starts hyping a player I would start to think in my head, why the hype? You don't have to say much, let stats do the talking. The first thing that comes to my mind is to check that person's tribe because that's how we are. Stats speak. If you give me the stats, I will concede without suspicions. But for one to say this player is better than that player, what is your yardstick? These things are debatable, but don't ever shift the goal post next time when defending your tribesmen.

I've called for Adegbenro, who I believe is yoruba. I loved what I saw, and I posted the videos here. I've called for Emenike, even though I didn't like his style during his playing days. And my reason was simply we needed that energy in attack. And since we have someone like Nwakame, I don't think we have much to worry. That's got nothing to do with tribe. Besides, these are not my tribesmen. Aaron Samuel have been called upon. His past stats with SE is not bad. But at club level, he hasn't done much. So the reason, maybe his physicality again -- granted. No foul play.

I've called for our foreign-born players, because I believe we need to win the war because in future we may be lacking again, but we will have them at our disposal. Is Tammy better than Dessiers? it's too early to say. Are they better than our home based players? I can't say. But they are plying their trade at a higher stage, so they have the advantage especially as our league is whack.

Really, there is no need for the emotions, unless you have some sentiments. Discuss with your facts, and whoever can't back up their assertions, should concede. Then I don't think anyone will call others tribalistic.

John Obuh is not yoruba. But Kayode and Ajagun were among his boys. My brother there are so many examples that point to the fact that these coaches cannot ignore talent when they want to succeed. Even those saying Siasia has his boys, but how many of his players where Ijaws? Keshi wasn't tribalistic, although I didn't like some of his decisions at the time. I felt he was doing some underhand business with agents.

I agree that tribalism CAN be a factor with our indigenous coaches, but it's not a big factor in their selection, and there should be no room for those suspicions especially when we have Rohr in charge.

Kog45:
My man wetin i tell u yesterday, this issue of tribal w scattered this thread.Next time if u cannot have healthy arguments with someone don't quote, just move on.Did u know some people don't quote themselves and is not something good for this thread,we are all brothers here and main objective is d success of Super Eagles irrespective of player involved.Hope u remember that there was no single Yoruba in fanny Amu team to Japan93(icons4 if i make mistake pls correct)but who care,when they won U17 world cup,nobody care

Thanks I'm previleged to contribute my little bit

bossto:
ok...thanks and i must also commend you for contributing so much to this forum,and enlightening some of us here..

why your mind think go that side?

femianski:
sadness is when you hear Victor Moses gets injured today
I pray it won't happen

Ighalo is first to arrive

bossto:
Any update from camp?

we won't miss Iwobi -- against Cameroon.

Aaron Samuel sha.. na because of physicality?

Humility017:
my brother all Nigeria soccer said so.....
I uploaded the news full details below.

lol who said so?

you can never think straight oh.. Everything as regards this country, if we do not allow the best fit to run it, we will continue to be backward..
All those calling for federal character in everything are clueless people, who will die with tribalistic sentiments..

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please hold your peace or this thread would turn political.. no one should bring tribalistic bullshit here.. From now on, you will be ignored. You can shout foul play, and those who share your tribalistic sentiments can join in, let's see how that will make you have your way.

forgiveness:
Who doesn't know the NFF has been polarized with majority from some section of the country?

Who doesn't know that their decisions always goes in favour or influence the selection of coaches from some section of the country for all the national teams in the country?


Wait for the under 17, 20 and 23 coaches to be announced then we go know something.

Somebody has already made it clear that one section of the country will no longer smell coaching the national teams. Abi you know see that one?

TheGoodJoe:
And then initiated Rohr into a secret cult. Do not forget to add this.

Very true. People who always focus on wining learn nothing. No one can know it all. I've conceded in discussions here. Didn't remove anything from me

Humility017:
thanks bro...
I just wanna let everything rest....
but it calls for readjustment should nearly everyone have same problem wit you...only the wisewill borrow a leaf
what should be out concern now...should be the team strategies and plans to beat Cameroon....
I wanna fix my mind on that

I have learnt so much on these thread...long before I joined nairaland....and even from kick-off Nigeria...and SL10
I have come to know....that it is not every time i must have my way...and that there is always something to learn from anybody...

They said a section of the country employed him. That has been the sentiments oh. Ironically Pinnick is an itsekiri man who are very much like Yorubas ethnically

elyte89:
Who re those dragging in tribalism issue into our national team selection under d tutelage of a foreign manager?
I doubt d sanity of those having such a biased and myopic reasoning in regards to dt.
Everything in Nigeria is always different,if its posibu, its better to av our team selected from just ONE FAMILY in Nigeria and achieve geometric SUCCESS Dan picking Randomly from all d states in Nigeria
What we are after is d SUCCESS/ACHIEVEMENT of the team, dts all,who Cares where d player comes from,if u re good fine.this is a foreign manager,not local

Wow.. That was close.. We qualified for the world stage then

Danielnino00:
****Off topic****

D'tigress cruise into Afrobasketball women championship final after slim 48-47 win over Mali

He came in on the 81st minute. Saw him always hustling for the ball with his runs

femianski:
Girona currently leading Malaga by one goal to nil
pls hu is watching the match??
is kayode in action??

Croatian League

Zapresic 1-3 Rijeka 65 minutes played

Nwokolor as Rijeka's second choice keeper

Haha my brother, it is real. That's why Nigeria has been backward

Humility017:
please don't make me laugh....
is it federal government job?
I have read a comment by one northerner on vanguard like that....
I was so ashamed...asking for the need for federal character....in football selection .

Seriously I don't attach anything to monikers. If u disappear and show up I won't even remember if we had an argument in the past or not.

So believe me I've forgotten all about forgiveness stunts in the past. And trust me ur just reminding of something I can faintly remember as regards our little disagreement.

ChrisKels:
The other day, u called me a newbie just because I misconstrued your post though I was around way before this present thread was formed, I just giggled and turned a blind eye. Today, you engaged Sir Forgiveness of all members of this thread? Lol who does that? Nobody but a newbie replies to his(Forgiveness's) bias post because he is well known here. Just learn ur lesson, next time, jump and pass because we don't want something similar to supernerd/bigblangston or supernerd/sirforgiveness war abegy.

U sabi analyse game sha and u gradually building a reputation here, don't ruin it.

Thank you so much.. Na 2 bottles I dey owe u now

safarigirl:
SE is on of the few things working in this country because there is no Federal Character attachef to it

Anyone looking to include FC in SE should go and soak his head in a bucket of excreta.

you know some of us here believe SE should reflect federal character. It's pathetic.

safarigirl:
he can go on another self exile and never return sef, he will not be missed.

How can someone just come here and be causing trouble and we are all expected to ignore him in the name of peace? This man is supposed to be older than majority of us on this thread, so why should we act mature on his behalf?

I don't care what anyone says, as long as he continues to make biased calls, I will keep pointing out the obvious.

Hahahahaha belle deybpain me

TheGoodJoe:

I tire. Especially when he accused Rohr of Cultism.

Or better yet he should go on another self exile, and come back with a new moniker lol

safarigirl:
it is hard, if not impossible, to read anything forgiveness posts without bringing in tribalism. It is only if we want to turn a blind eye to his apparent bias that you will expect anyone not to see a pattern of favouring his gbegiri boys

The way some expect others not to react to what is staring you in the face is befuddling. If you don't want to state the obvious, don't expect others not to or to simply ignore. I reserve the right to call out anything suspicious...

Just read the rubbish oga forgiveness is writing here...

Kayode better than Onyekuru
Kayode more deserving of a call up than Nwakaeme
Awoniyi better than Iheanacho

He won't even pause to ask why certain people were called up and their impact in the game like many others have done this far, all he sees is how Gernot Ikechukwu Rohr is favouring a certain section of the country

For the love of God! Are we to ignore this pattern? No, let us keep tribalism away by ignoring the one person who always brings it up with his posts.

Nobody brings up tribalism on this thread until forgiveness shows up. Maybe for once, you should stop telling other people not to state the obvious and CALL OUT FORGIVENESS on his BS

Lol don't make it seem like we have a talented GK department

PDPGuy:
Wow

Enyeama's return and that of Ikeme would give Rohr a massive headache on whom to pencil down for the World Cup. It will be a shame to see the likes of Emmanuel Daniel or Ezenwa left off the team.

Lol enjoy yourself until the argument gets boring

forgiveness:
Onyekuru is never in the SE set. GBAM!

I have the right to decide where to express myself and I will do it here on NAIRALAND oh ha!.

Iheanacho is past glory according to some people past glory theory not mine.

Becauae Shakespeare isnt going to make much changes until they - Okazaki (especially) and Vardy - start doing badly. I think they have been decent in their run so far considering their oppositions.

femianski:
Leicester football is too boring
as regards nacho : why is he still warming the bench in this average team
I tire for the guy matter sef
rashford that he was compared to in the 2015/2016 season keeps getting better
he even scored today

Ezenwa looks confident and more comanding than Akpeyi. I agree. Ighalo is more likely to start, but this may be his last chance in SE should he not deliver. Partnership with Mikel is in contention. I'm not too impressed with both Onazi and Ndidi. For continuity sake, Onazi has the upper hand. I hope Agu or Ogu really get integrated in future.

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tbaba1234:
Ezenwa

Aina Ekong Balogun Elderson

.Onazi

.Mikel

V.Moses. Kelechi. Etebo

Ighalo


Aina and Etebo for their physicality. Etebo is always willing to defend. Moses is also decent in that role. Iheanacho works better with space so playing behind the striker will give him more space.

Ezenwa because i can't trust Akpeyi and Akpeyi has not been playing.

That's a better discussion. For the likes of Tammy and Dessiers, it's a matter of who invites them first. We need to win them for the future even if they don't make it to Russia

pyrex23:
i would consider dessers b4 tammy.....
Olayinka nd dessers are d guys i wanna c in SE probably after qualification....
Wouldnt mind if they are d only additions to d team..

Yes some of em you won't have a faint idea where they are from

Humility017:
I tell you....they're many here you will know where they hail from...reason because of their sound arguement and debate deviod of sentiments....
but definitely not the case wit others...
I am a political inclined person...I avoid politics thread because of these.....

often the thread is polarized along two poles wit tribal monsters feasting on each other.....

As long as the 3 Lions ain't calling him soon, we still have a chance

Humility017:
the guy is gradually becoming a full fledge English international...
that guy will never play for us...so forget it.

I don't see him as a Nigeria footballer anymore but a soon to be England international

Especially as regards the call for new inclusions I've seen the sentiments on this page.

Humility017:
bro...you're wasting your time talking to him.
I have already made know...the reason for his argument...simply looking at the names of the players will tell you that.

I just checked. It says right midfield

Lordabas:
Correction. Hes playing as a left winger

That's now his natural position lol

Lordabas:
Etebo is playing as a leftback for cd feirense

None of these players got immediate call up when they started performing. Why should Olayinka's case be different? That's where the sentiments really is. Iheanacho has earned his place in the team he won't get fizzled out over night. Suck it in. This is not a case of anyone hating on a specific player. We all know how it took Odey a while before he got his chance. Olayinka's case won't be different. For now Onyekuru is already in the SE set up. Olayinka should wait to grab his chance. Let's all stop this A versus B argument. There is no foul play in selection, in the first place. If you believe otherwise try to pass your message to the appropriate quarters instead of nagging on an ordinary forum like nairaland

forgiveness:
Peter Olayinka has scored again. Based on past glory, ONYEKURU AND IHEANACHO are not qualified to be called, ba?

Nobody celebrated Tammy Abraham today Na wa o

Stephen Sunday is still active

mumemma:
We need Furo Iyenemi o.....
Some guys bin play for SE sha.....
Even one na Gbenga Okunowo....Barca man dat yr