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That brings us back to my initial post. I was not in any way saying that language is not a factor. But I was stressing the all round development of the player in the long run should be the main consideration. In fact language is not a barrier on my opinion, else coaches would have been asking to know if the player can speak the local language before considering signing them up.

Many coaches these days are multi-lingual.

Success should have opted to remain in Spain.
Iheanacho should go to Germany. Onyekuru as well. But i no be their papa. I'm just considering their playing style and thinking your next destination is always crucial to your development. I could still be wrong after all.

BascoVanVeli:
I never meant that it was the sole factor but i am sure language plays a role.

Sure better than fanatic nigerian EPL club supporters..
But Nigeria or never actually suggests if not Nigeria, no other African country. Na wa o.

Praying for Naija to be top dog in the world is another matter.

safarigirl:
Just like whether they win or not will not affect my country, so why should I support them? If your neighbor gets a promotion at work, is it your salary that will increase?

I get emotional about sports, like I say here a lot of times, I take it personal. So yeah, I want my country to be the top dog, is that not better than people who never care about watching a Nigerian match, but won't eat if their foreign clubs lose?

No be quarrel. Na observation. If ur not like that in other areas, simply say and move on like sir Mujtahida did.

Naija we all want change Abi. No be quarrel. Na self check lol

Humility017:
bros please it is okay.
this thread made me join nairaland because of the bond and maturity that exist here....
let's keep it at that.
*winks*

No I'm not.. We can all do a self check to see if that kind of sentiments stretch to other areas of our lives.

Of course whether u support a country or not on TV will not affect their performance.

I don't get too emotional about sports for you to think that.

safarigirl:
I think you're taking it just a wee bit too far.

Granted.
Would you rather have an Asian country or United States win the WC first?
One thing, it's always easier to learn from your neighbors first, because they were most likely in a similar circumstance. All the comparisons with the EPL etc, Can't we learn from the South African league. We are ahead in talents because on our focus on football and our advantage in number, but they have achieved a lot in a relative short time considering their circumstance. If Ghana wins the WC first it is by merit and they deserve it. Well different opinions, but I'm gunning for who is more like me. The westerners rope all of us as the same no matter how hard we try to be like them more lol

Mujtahida:
Generally speaking I don't think like that especially on the home front as in Nigeria and how we run things (let the best have it is my motto) but when it comes to international football or sports I want Nigeria to be first or never. It's kind of quirky. Don't take it too serious.

Enjoy my bro. But safarigirl and all those with that kind sentiments, Africa will be stunted with the mindset of Nigeria first or never. Or my village or never. Or my state or never. In fact our political class are capitalizing on that to chop and go free. I may be digressing, but this is more encompassing then we may think.

Mujtahida:
My guy I know I am being prejudicial but allow me my guilty pleasures on this one.

Niaja too like to imitate. I beg make we love our fellow Africans. The true pace-setters are those who innovate and set standards. Not copy copy westerners. Truly we are just super-consumers. Na these kind statement dey start Nigeria vs Ghana wars or to make other Afticans start the hating. I be Nigerian but let truth be told, we too like to form one thing. We ate the loudest anywhere we are. Honestly I really do wish our advantage in population can count positively for us.

Mujtahida:
Yeah you are right. That German of Nigerian descent manned the German defence wella. We could not do shingbai.
Ever noticed that apart from the North Africans our players are the most refined in appearance? The other African countries always try to swag up but end up looking like Bansie or Diouf of Senegal with him sandpaper hair.

Let's take a look at 3 countries with the highest exports.

Does it follow that MOST of their players are shipped to countries that speak the same language?
i.e Most Brazilians to Portugal
Argentinians to Spain
France to other French Speaking countries (Belgium, Switzerland etc)

BascoVanVeli:
Back in the days our players had no choice. U have to remember that these are young men and should be expected to want to socialize. Not speaking a language is very tough and it can also limit performances. Translators are nice but they won't be going on home with u to talk to ur neighbors. I agree with u that learning cultures and languages will always come in handy but performance on the field comes first and if a player is not comfortable it will be hard for him to perform.

Back in the days, most of our players went to non-English speaking countries. I don't think it's a factor generally. Professional football gives accommodation for non-native speakers. I think many of our players are looking for comfort zones too early in their career. Should my child in future be a professional player, I will advise him or her to go to a country that will aid their development irrespective of the official language of their destination. Learning more languages should even be a plus, because they could take to coaching or so many other responsibilities after their playing career. the more languages they can speak and the more cultures they experienced during their playing days will add to their capacity. I can't over-emphasize the importance of learning about different cultures in this globalized world as we have it -- international business in my mind.

BascoVanVeli:
Language would also play a part.

Yea very commercial..It's a Naija factor I guess.

Remember Habeeb Makanjuola?

bataderemi:
The popularity? I dunno. Or perhaps clubs there pay more. I don't see anything else.

interesting

AIG07:
yes dat's what de do.
Don't forget the means of transportation de often use is road. They spend hours like 7-9 hours in some cases they'll have to spend a night to rest before resuming their journey the following day.e.g lag to kano is more than 12-15hours drive(moving on poor roads) putting in mind that the gaps between these fixtures are barely up to 3days...

Personally I don't know why all our players prefer to go to the EPL. It may not be the best for some of our player's development.

bataderemi:
You overrate the EPL. Tottenham were beaten by a Belgian side, over two legs.

Nigeria World Cup Winner Not Offered New Deal By Chelsea
Published: May 23, 2017
Nigeria World Cup Winner Not Offered New Deal By ChelseaEnglish Premier League champions Chelsea have parted company with attacking midfielder Habib Makanjuola.

The status of the former Nigeria U17 international at the Stamford Bridge outfit had been covered in mist, but a Chelsea youth-team expert has revealed that he has not been offered a new contract.

''Yeah, he was with the club as a schoolboy, won some skills competition in Nigeria. Didn't get a scholarship,'' Chelsea Youth tweeted.

''Last I heard he was with a local youth club in Birmingham.''

Makanjuola was part of the Golden Eaglets squad at the 2013 Fifa U17 World Cup in the United Arab Emirates, and played their first group match against Mexico.

Igho Kingsley

http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=23153

Al Ahly of Egypt currently up 2-0 away to Cottonsport. Junior Ajayi scored the opener.

#CAFchampionsLeague

if not for ur handle I engage everyone one here like they are guys.

I'm not aware of all that. By free pass, I was talking generally in society.

safarigirl:
nobody has ever given me a free pass here, so i don't know what you are talking about. Someone has even threatened to kill me on this thread, if that's a pass, I don't think I want it.

Attacking someone unnecessarily because of an old grudge is something girls do, so if you pull a female stunt, you will be compared to a female.

I have overlooked some attacks recently, but he and all the four women that liked his misplaced comment just deserved a call out. I know of many other ladies here who also dislike me for reasons best known to them, they tend to like comments that attack me.

I'm more of a man than some men here

Most times guys give ladies a free pass. That's how the society is. But many at times ladies take it as a liscense to mouth someone down. Because they don't expect to be paid back in kind. Some Guys get mouth too o. Some people don't comment on here but they observe and they may form opinions about others. Well it's a free world we all form opinions of people, but one advise i have for you. Never suggest to a man that he acts like a lady. That's the worse thing you could ever say to a guy. The same way some guys say here that u are like a guy. Personally I don't see it as a nice to say. Interests in sports or any field is not exclusive to any gender.

Let's learn to grow a thick skin in forums like this where we meet different personality types. Many times there are nicer ways to pass a point or two accross while we disagree but most of us get too emotional and stop at nothing to prove we are right.

Sometimes avoidance is the best way to avoid future conflicts with people who don't weigh their words. We find it hard to respect each other during engagements.

safarigirl:
I was not trying to be rude to you. I was just asking an honest question.

I don't know how you read that, but your hostility was uncalled for. The way some people here like to reply me is very disturbing.

See as cold enter my body as i read your reply, what did I say wrong for you to attack me like this?

I am just here, itching to say a lot to you for this unnecessary attack, but I told myself I would try to avoid altercations on NL.

I want to just know why I get attacked when i ask innocent questions and nobody attacks others like this.

Cc Icon4s, tbaba123, joebie, thegoodjoe, thesupernerd. Please, someone explain this to me, let me understand the order of the day on this thread.

Are we all going to be petty? So, once we have disagreements with each other you have to consequently treat the other person like a leper?

I used to think women are pretty, but the men on this thread take it to a whole new level, I am starting to think there are other ladies here

Current season

OMANBALA1:
In the current league or in the history of Nigerian league?

I agree there are other factors.. The MLS as well is devided into two conferences. I think it would be good for the NPFL. Then we can have a super 6 to decide the league winner etc

MODIFIED
why can't club sides travel way ahead of their fixture?

AIG07:
well you might be right. But one thing that i'm sure is that the numbers of away wins will reduce and hey don't think i'm been pessimistic it's just the truth.

I wasn't even suprised with the result cos it was an expected one. Reason because the league has just resumed and the players are refreshed.

Crowd violence is not the major cause of away loss or draws we do see across all venues(north,central,south, east and west) as 'most' crowd violence is known to come from the north.

This numbers you see will begin to reduce when fatigue starts to set in as the league progresses most likely in the next 3-4wks.

The rigor in which these players undergo is overwhelming. Imagine a team in lagos that just played on sunday traveling to maiduguri/kano to play on wednesday by ROAD... What miracle do you want them to do there. We shouldn't be expecting any different result as long as these teams keep travelling long distances by road.

The NNL has greatly improved in term of result been churned out weekly simply because of the regional system(norther and southern conferences) been used-sir Dannycrusoe can attest to this. The proximity of venues has greatly help these players to stay fresh for a long time.

No sane host crowd will interfere with the match when they see their guest outplaying and scoring them.

Ifeanyi Ubah FC has been unbeaten in seven straight matches. The only club in the NPFL to achieve that feat.

thenff.com

account suspended.. this is a disgrace oh..

Meanwhile, I think the realistic results across Nigeria on Sunday may be due to the recent resolution made by the LMC and representative of the clubs to tackle home crowd trouble. Referees are beginning to feel safer. Maybe oh.

Realistically in 2022. But anything can happen.

Mujtahida:
Watching Chelsea win the EPL, I had a shiver just thinking about the day Nigeria wins the world cup. It would be a glorious day. I pray it comes soon.

Agbo has been enjoying regular call ups. He needs to really work harder as competition is getting stiffer even in the defensive midfield position. Mikel Agu is here. Some players may hardly get another chance if they fail to measure up with the competition.

tbaba1234:
Uche agbo is the first guy in the Eagles Camp.

Sure, when any player starts scoring after a long spell, some credits should be given to the coach.

TheGoodJoe:
I do not think the new coach gets all the credits but he deserves some.

Balogun starts for Mainz away to Koln. But makes an early exit in the 15 minutes due to injury. Let's hope its not a serious one

Wolfsburg lead Hamburger 1-0 away. Osimhen in bench

One thing for sure is Awo enjoyed regular game time even before he started scoring. The coaches did not throw him on the pitch for nothing. He must have showed great potential in training. It happens to even the best strikers sometimes -- goals drought. Let's take it that it's beginning to click again for Awo. But sometimes it takes someone's advice or some tweaking in the team tactics to get things going the way of the player. Let's not give the new coach all the credits just because Awo is 19.

TheGoodJoe:

If you hinge more on Awo pointing out that the team now plays to his strength, that lies on the coach. It takes a coach to adjust a team to play a particular way. Also, there is no guarantee that Awo's goal challenges are behind him. That is why continuous work is necessary both ways. From the team and the player.

My brother I once said here, I wont blame anyone who refuse to play for Nigeria.
Anyone who turns down Nigeria i'm sure have good reasons. But at the same time I remain patriotic even though there is no logic in it. I will be deceiving myself to adopt another country. The truth is our heroes don't have much to be proud of. I'm sure many players talents wasted away or were at least not given a fair chance. Not saying those who were given did not deserve it. We do not have a transparent system to give the best a chance because of our very sentimental mentality.

However, we cannot keep settling for players that choose Nigeria as a fall back option.

tbaba1234:
” I was told of the interest from Nigeria by my father but as someone who has played for Nigeria in the past, he advised me to focus on progressing through the ranks with Germany instead of considering a switch to Nigeria “,

Jordan Torunarigha 

Imagine an ex international telling his kid not to play for Nigeria. It is usually the other way round. If Jordan does not play for Germany by age 25, the tone will change. I think, he has the talent to go far though.

Gram! Tell them
In fact you don't use the word hype for a player who is showing class. To say Onyekuru is being hyped means he is not good enough or is mediocre. Fact check: wrong. His argument should be he will not leave up to expectation with the SE. How about we wait and see. Onyekuru deserves the attention. In fact I was already singing his praise when he was at single digits in goals scored. I know a player that will go on to achieve when I see them play. Mark my words, he will exceed the Simon and Musa put together.

tbaba1234:
Hyping a player who continues to put the ball in the back of the net is normal. He is currently the highest goal scorer in Belgium. He keeps delivering. What is there not to hype? No one is calling him a Lionel Messi but he deserves the attention, he is getting.

There are two extremes, over hyping and Dismissing..

You are on the other extreme. Football is about results and so far this season, Onyekuru has produced results. Dismissing that will fall flat every time.

I have watched Onyekuru, several times. I am not basing my opinions on a highlight reel. He certainly has enormous potential.

I do not understand why you are showing clips of Simon Moses to prove a point about Onyekuru. Has Simon Moses scored 23 goals this season? Does that not already show you a difference in their play.

Ronaldo is Selfish, Thierry Henry was selfish, Lionel Messi also goes on selfish runs.. No one complains when they are producing results. Onyekuru is producing results. Bottom line.

Success' weight is his problem

TheGoodJoe:

I hope Onyekuru maintains his lightweight and keeps working on his speed. If he gains weight in the name of fitting with the EPL it will affect his speed. Messi was lightweight when he ghost passed Manchester United players who were EPL Champions and on top the EPL table.

Onyekuru's speed is one of his key attributes and he should not tamper with it. Also, weight might result in him becoming prone to injuries.

That's the position he plays for Feirense most times.

Ikeme is injured. Unless we have a new good option.

ProfOrlando:
nice line up bro , i only have problem with etebo on the wing and alampasu as the first choice

I will play Onyekuru as a number 9.

Nigeria vs South Africa

http://lineupbuilder.com/?sk=ty948