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Kenistry: Privatization has done more harm dan good in dis country, infact dat's d main failure of governance of Obj's regime. Sellin govt owned co to same individuals to dier personal benefits, it's pathetic. Do we still remember Nitel, Nicon insurance? It's a pity. Privatization = capitalism
capitalism = corruption & corrupt practices
wic has led to increased poverty, govt negligence, poor economy, infrastructure degradatn and so on.
Privatization is an enemy dat has come, conquered & destroyed dis Country. it's a menace as far as am concern.

Don't forget 1004 estate, VI. Obj evicted sitting tenants who according to a govt white paper had first right of refusal to buy. There were even pending matters in both the federal and state high courts. The sudden eviction of over 8000 people caused a surge in the cost of rent that lagos hasn't fully recovered from.

Accordingly the lagos state govt was so pissed at the handling of it that it almost frustrated the transfer of 1004 to the new buyers and slammed a major levy on the transaction before it was allowed to pass

0lumide: I wasn't aware of what happened in the 80s as I was still too much of a baby.. But I know that whenever I wanted to speak to grandma back in Nigeria in early 90s, I call her nitel landline directly and we'd chat about my jibberish all day if she got my time . I kept wondering what happened to these services. I remember grandma receiving my letters and sending me beads in the mail whenever I send her pictures of me and big sis. As I started coming to Nigeria after I reunited with my mom, I kept wondering what happened to those services I used in communicating with grandma back then. All dead. The phone don't ring anymore, the letters stopped delivering since 2000.

My brother I feel bad that you didn't see nigeria before it totally went to shyte.when I was a child it was already spoiling but there was still an air of greatness and national pride.

The public sector became awash with lazy, corrupt racketeers during the military regime of IBB because he didn't really care about service delivery and rewarded his pals with jobs and promotion. By 1999 OBJ instead of overhauling the system, sold off the assets of all to a few overnight billionaires in his clique, telling us the owners of those assets that he was incapable or uninterested in managing them properly.

All in all the "privatisation" was a robbery

OP -God bless you for this topic. Obj's so called privatisation is one of the biggest heists in living history.

A shameful scenario where the government of the day overrides already weakened state institutions to sell the idea of the government being unable to manage its assets and sells those assets to its top figures and their friends. By first undervaluing them and then giving them away for almost nothing OBJ's regime stripped nigerians of their heritage.

I will never agree that govt is incapable of managing its businesses, infrastructure and assets without private hands. I am old enough to remember seeing in the late 80's federal ministry of works teams fixing federal roads in lagos. What went wrong and are we saying that we gave up on accountability and service delivery in public service?

braine: Who is this one to conclude that a country as complex as Nigeria is a failed state huh? Professor, please tell us the contribution you've made in making things better. Enough of the negativity.

Nwabueze is definitely qualified to speak however he is burdened with the task of offering a solution. After all he was part of the system as AGF

dejijohns: Na Unilorin alumni U b?? We call it burger...

Lol! No I didn't attend unilorin. Funny enough we called it burger as well

Could someone please give any links to the US cables that informed the writer of this article that azikiwe's personal bodyguard was the team that supported ifeajuna in the 1966 coup. I think its a load of stinking BS.

Goldie could NEVER have taken drugs. She's one of those ppl described as having a "light brain". Screw these conspiracy theories and let us grieve in peace abeg

@OP - God forbid. Ndi igbo will never fire the first shot.

Dede1: Decree 40 was passed by Ironsi’s regime against distribution of leaflets, any form of taunting or dancing to songs regarded as offensive to any group. The original author is a basement fool. By the time I have finished with him\her, a floor moping job would be hard to come by talk less executive editor at PwC Review. The author totally displayed his\her ignorance on military issues. Major Ifeajuna, as the BM (Brigade Major) of 2nd Brigade, Lagos did not need the sentries at Azikiwe’s resident to kill the prime minister. Major Ifeajuna had entire Brigade to himself.

It is documented and on record the cities that witnessed joyous jubilation at the hearing of January 15, 1966 were Lagos and Ibadan.

Bless your heart for this Dede1. I have some digging to do

texazzpete: We may as well take all our learnings on World War II from the memoirs of the members of the German High Command.

The OP does not dispute that Achebe was in the Biafran war. He's just saying his books has several items that are not factual and is colored heavily by his previously hidden trait of an ethnic bigot.

Please learn to separate the man from his achievements. He is an excellent writer and a world renowned literature expert. His famous books have rightly earned him a lot of accolades. His antipathy towards corruption is exemplary. However his clearly Igbo Supremacist agenda is disgusting to the extreme to me and many others. That is where we stand in this matter!

Instead of babbling about Nowa Omoigui, why don't you tackle the remaining 95% of the write up that didn't reference Mr Omoigui?
Are we supposed to believe the words of a clearly Biased Achebe over the dispassionate and unbiased US embassy reports?

I'm interested in clarifying some facts. Do you have a link to the said US embassy reports quoted?

Beautiful article mehn. The writer spoke my mind. I would even have added more sef.

Of course not all diaspora peeps are of negative effect. The bad ones always sound bitter, angry and hardened of heart. I've noticed that quite a number of these hack online activists live abroad working to spread hate and xenophobia to the vulnerable and traumatised.

I remember charles taylor was once in the diaspora

inufele2: Yes there were many other patriots who participated in the struggle who are not Yorubas. My respond to him in that manner was a bit of sarcasm however, that does not rule out the fact that most Igbos left us to our fate and ran back to the east in an exodus that can only be likened to that of 1967. Despite this they came back en masse to enjoy the peace and tranquility of SW after many of our people sacrificed their lives to ensure justice is done.

As regards exodus of a number of igbos, what do you mean by likened to 1967? Back in '67 igbo peeps ran for dear life to their homeland, in 1993 igbos who probably had not spent much time in lagos to know ground and understand that they would not be targets again ran back to their villages. For other boys while our dads would be discussing politics we were learning how to smoke cigarettes and sneak out to paste our handwritten protest posters in the morning.

As for staying behind to fight I know a couple of yoruba peeps that could afford it at some point went abroad during that period for some peace of mind

That an article is too long, self indulgent and full of drama doesn't mean it makes any real point. Abeg can someone enlighten me on the said Decree 40 of 1966 and the story that azikiwe's personal bodyguard made up ifeajuna's team.

I smell BS but I stand to be corrected

inufele2: Where were you during Abacha regime? Where were you during June 12? Where were you during the dark days of Nigerian politics? Who fought the military to stand still? Who sacrificed their lives to endure you have democracy you have today?

I know my small role during june 12 and if you are trying to say that the struggle for democracy was only by yorubas then you need to check well. You should first ask about when the likes of Abraham Adesanya used to hold nadeco meetings safely in the home Rear Admiral Ndubuisi Kanu Rtd. Who was also a nadeco member. You should ask about Olisa Agbakoba and his role. You should then ask about the late Chima Ubani of CLO and his sacrifices and ultimate death in the struggle

inufele2: If Igbos want to have a yiboman as president let them work for it! How hard is it to understand for these flat headed beings? What make you think you're qualified to get it on a platter?

Shuo! Did Yoruba man work for it in 1999 or was he revived from his prison death bed with only 50,000 in his account by IBB and the cabal and installed president.

@OP - like somebody said earlier, nna idi ok really. Ne bi ndu nwanne. Nothing do you

For those who never suffered what others did and come online to give their "authoritative" input as to how slaves should have behaved. I really think y'all all are lower than the dust

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-501577/Cargo-living-dead-The-unspeakable-horror-life-slave-ship.html#axzz2Kkp2myNv

Slaves would spend 16 hours a day unable to stand

"I was sold six times over, sometimes for money, sometimes for cloth, sometimes for a gun," he recalled.

"We were taken from place to place and sold at every place we stopped at."

It took Louis six months to reach the "white people" and their "very large ship".

Ukawsaw, about the same age, lived in northern Nigeria, up near Lake Chad.

The grandson of the local king, he was mesmerised by the magical tales told by a visiting merchant.

Vividly, the man described white people who lived in houses on the water which had wings upon them.

His family let Ukawsaw go with the merchant, who told no more tales but dragged the boy to the Gold Coast where Ukawsaw was enslaved.

A Dutch captain sold him in Barbados for 50 dollars.

Olaudah, also Nigerian, was only 11 when slave traders carried him aboard a slave ship.

He was grabbed by members of the crew, "white men with horrible looks, red faces and long hair", who tossed him about to see if his limbs were sound.

He thought they were bad spirits, not human beings.

As he recorded 35 years later, when they put him down on the deck the first thing he saw was a huge copper boiling pot, and nearby a crowd of black people, "chained together, every one of their countenances expressing dejection and sorrow".

Struck by the thought that he had fallen into the hands of cannibals, Olaudah fainted.

These are just three slaves among the 12.4 million Africans who were captured by raiders and kidnappers and transported across the Atlantic in slave ships between the late 15th and the late 19th centuries.

As Marcus Rediker recalls in a new book on the slave trade, 1.8 million slaves died during that journey known as the Middle Passage, their bodies thrown to the sharks.

Most of the ten million who survived the journey were condemned to a plantation system so brutal, many more perished.

Two-thirds of the total were transported between 1700 and 1808, a period which includes the Age of Enlightenment and manuscripts by Jane Austen.

Olaudah was born in 1745.

He came from a pastoral background in which villagers worked collectively to build homes and cultivate the fields, raising foodstuffs, mostly yams and fruit, but also tobacco, and cotton which they wove into clothes.

Blacksmiths made weapons; other craftsmen made jewellery.

His Igbo people believed that the spirits of the dead would wander aimlessly unless given proper burial.

As in last century's death camps, perhaps only the very young, like him, could survive the journey without lifelong mental damage.

The humiliation of the slave train - men, women and children strapped in a neck yolk as they stumbled towards the coast - was usually followed by imprisonment for as much as eight months until a slave ship arrived and collected a full cargo - whereupon they were marched out, stripped, examined, haggled over and finally given a number by which they would be known throughout the voyage.

When Olaudah came round on the ship after fainting and was offered food, he refused it.

He was tied to the windlass and flogged.

In his despair, Olaudah went to throw himself over the side, even though he couldn't swim.

Then he saw that the slave-ship was equipped with netting on the sides to prevent its valuable commodities from committing suicide.

He was told that he was being carried to white people's country to work for them.

Many of the slaves believed until the end of the voyage that they were being shipped away to be eaten.

Olaudah was taken down into the darkness of the lower deck, where the slaves were manacled and shackled.

He was made to lie wedged in such close quarters that he "had scarcely room to turn himself".

His living space was about three square feet, hardly more than that of a corpse in its coffin.

The air was noxious; the constant rubbing of his chains raised sores on his wrists and ankles.

As the ship set sail, the full enormity of what was happening to him struck home, as it must have done to millions of other Africans.

Because of bad weather, the slaves stayed locked below in their chains for days at a time.

The heat was suffocating, the stench unbearable.

Covered in sweat, vomit, and blood, the packed slaves created a miasma which rose through the gratings of the upper deck in a loathsome mist.

The "necessary tubs" full of excrement "almost suffocated us", recalled Olaudah.

The shrieks of terrified slaves, conscious of the troubled spirits of the dead, mingled with the groans of the dying.

It was rare for a slave transport across the Atlantic not to give plenty of sustenance to the sharks swimming nearby.

Olaudah became sick and "hoped to put an end to my miseries".

He envied the dead who were thrown overboard, believing that their spirits lived on, liberated from their shackles.

His own spirits improved with the weather.

The slaves were usually allowed on deck twice a day, in chains.

Olaudah, being a child, went unfettered, and because he was sickly he spent more time on deck, where women slaves washed him and looked after him.

He saw three slaves elude the netting and jump overboard.

A boat was lowered, and to the anger of the captain, two of them succeeded in drowning.

The third was brought back on deck and flogged viciously.

When at last they sighted landfall the crew were overjoyed.

The captives were sullen and silent.

Like Ukawsaw, they had docked in Barbados which, as they would shortly find out, was one of the most brutal slave societies to be found anywhere in the world.

Olaudah was luckier than some.

His forcible separation from his beloved sister had occurred on the quay before he was taken to the slave ship.

But many families were now separated in the Barbados dockyard, and the air was filled with their shrieks and bitter lamentations.

They were lined up in rows, and at the sound of a drum-roll, buyers scrambled to pick out the slaves they wanted to purchase, throwing cords around them which tightened as they were pulled away.

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I'm glad these a-holes were tossed into "sanko". It shows that the security agencies won't tolerate nonsense careless talk, especially with an islamic insurgency ongoing.

If they escape conviction na God save dem. If care is not taken they may bear the brunt of the outrage of the 9 people murdered

johnwizey: So d guy dey smoke weed........i hpe he no batter Tiwa's face sha

I think say na only me notice say d guy dey kpoli. No wonder him dey tweet nonsense

[quote author=One_Naira]Abi ooo. The man is suppose to connect history of Igbo slaves in America to Igbo in West Africa because somehow the Igbo slaves in America flew to Africa and got the free Igbo people in Africa to help them fight. Just because they are Igbo thus prof chambers cannot speak the history of the Igbo slaves in America, only an Igbo man whose ancestry didnot leave Nigeria and wasn't in America during that era (unlike the slaves) have the right to tell us the history of the Igbo slaves in which he might not know (unlike prof chambers whose ancestors was in America). LMFAO!! I honestly wonder what sense he thinks his making to tell you the truth.[/quote]The guy loves to spin stories together and debate on them.

Honestly I have to find that book by Prof Chambers, it looks very interesting

[quote author=Dudu_Negro]can prof. chambers teach an igbo person the igbo culture and history?[/quote]Prof Chambers can't teach me about my village history but he sure as shyte as can teach me about what igbos did in his country 300 years ago. Chikena!

[quote author=Dudu_Negro]murder at mont pelier does not answer the questions we ask .

in fact it supports what i said that there is a new search around the globe to give meaning to an erstwhile meaningless greatness.

writers look for income, there are many writers probing around africa for unwritten stories to pen in hope of getting movie deals. they care nothing about the truthfullness.[/quote]why u dey embarrass yourself like this. abi you think everybody is a yoruba online activist who has to concoct lies 24hrs a day to eat?

if you know prof. douglas chambers pedigree you would edit your post quietly

I'm waiting to hear that this lunatic racist pig of an activist has committed suicide

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This makes absolutely no sense so I have to clutch at only one straw.

He is playing politics because of the operation in mali and boko haram. Most likely to counter the allegation that his administration is against the north/islam

amor4ce: Have you ever on this forum chided those of your people who talk of enslaving and ruling over the Yoruba and taking over Lagos? Have you ever admitted that Igbo did wrong in trying to take over Yoruba land from 1914 till date?

Firstly I can say with all confidence say that no igbo man in his right senses really means it when they talk about enslaving yorubas in lagos and ruling the place. Its a nairaland thing and is a response to the tribalism and e-fighting. So are igbos supposed to take it really serious when ppl here talk about killing igbos in the south west? I've seen threads you were on where ppl say half the igbos in lagos will be killed, did you ever chide your own when they say such things.

Secondly I want you to show me where, when and how igbos have been trying to capture yorubaland since 1914.

amor4ce: Okay, I admit that i referred to the trampling of rights. Perhaps I got engrossed in something else and forgot. But 'deny' is worse than 'trample' so technically your accusation does not stand.

Whether to deny or trample on rights, both mean the same damn thing at the end of the day. Semantics aside.

To me I don't think you have admitted that what you said waas wrong you have merely tried to wriggle out of the noose you knotted yourself. I however am calm now and must take back what I said about you being a lunatic.

amor4ce: Just so you know, people who have attacked me in the past have suffered calamities. You will get your just reward for calling me a 'lunatic'.

If you like go to your shrine and dance naked. He that is in me is greater than that which is in the world. Just be careful before an angel beheads you in the process

amor4ce: The Igbo and Fulani have been trampling on the rights of indigenes in this country, they are beneficiaries of the british colonialists/oxy-hominoids and seek to colonize Negroes.

Oh you want to twist it now. This is what you wrote. I can't make out the article in the paper because the print is too small and I can't read it on my phone.

amor4ce: You will get your just reward for calling me a 'lunatic' and with no justification. Prove that I've lied rather than making empty accusations.

If you had any substance at all you wouldn't ask me to prove YOUR accusations that Igbos deny indigenes of their rights.

As to your being a lunatic I have seen excerpts from your blog and I am sure you are one