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hahn:
It is a state of mind we can grow out of

one way or the other even in the least subtle way, we all are

it's obvious that the story is filled with unmatched bias from the jewish scribes seeking to make up a story that promotes their tribe in all ramifications.

the story is not only unfair but shows up Jacob as a conniving sinister mastermind that would have been portrayed as a villain if it's a plot in today's movies.

- it's obvious that Jacob was not only envious but jealous of his brother who bore no ill in his mind for Jacob
- Used your own blood brother's vulnerable moment to steal his right as the first born [ which was in fact nonsensical, the first born is the one that came out first not determined by word of mouth]
-then went ahead and stole his brother's blessings by pretending to be him [WTF!!! that's like simply idiotic -n apparently even God's favour can be stolen]

LOL and then after the whole saga, God went ahead and liked the bad one and chastised the innocent esau who even forgave Jacob after all the treatments he got from him for no just cause.

the fabricators of the tale didnt think it through at all..

i would rather be Esau in the story who had no ill thought against his brother, just going about his haunting business while Jacob was busy plotting on how to steal everything that was rightfully his - that people even revere the character Jacob is mind bugling.

it's time the youths took over the government of this country from old dying grandpas that started ruling as youths and dont want to give the youths power to rule..

i stand with TuFace biko

where exactly is Mr Dawdy, we have him what he asked for, now let him come and show us what we asked - nobody is going to run away from this one

Martinez19:
johnydon22 how far? Can you help me contact analice107. I need her to contact someone for me as it is urgent.

Uuuhm you have to ask her first

neoapocalypse:
If the contents of a book is seen to be false then it is a story book

i dont even seem to get what you think a story book means. the bible is a story book partly - yes though not in entirety as it also is a theological book.

then again to correct the naive impression - whether a book a book is correct or not it can still be a story book if it's contents are tailored to meet the criteria of a story book.

saying a book is full of inconsistencies makes it a story book is like redefining what a story book means

neoapocalypse:
Inconsistencies , timeline , impossible events , omissions and a host of others

so your definition of s story book is any story with inconsistencies, timeline, impossible events?

lol

djdoxxx:
Johnnydon22 really fall my hand....buh I really understand his plight...there were other vibrant youthful and patriotic contenders in other parties that had very nice and clear manifestos but nobody reasoned them....Anyways, Buhari is still far better than Jonathan...let's just start planning ahead for the next election.

How market bro?

SirWere:
Hahahaha, so you mean great scientists and people who are christians are "scientifically illterate, technoglically backwards and economically confused" Forgetting that christianity actually encourages education Get wisdom. The only atheist I respect on NL is Johnnydon22. And even he is confused

Bro how market?

dawdy can you now show us picture of a flat earth, please I will be waiting

Dawdy:
Teempakguy, all These proofs have been convincingly debunked by flat earth model. Besides, Rossikki has created a thread to prove that earth is flat. Why can't you go there and prove otherwise rather than deceiving people here with your NASA fake theories. Can you show me the picture of the Earth that is not CGI? Can you show me earth's curvature?

here you go...need anything else?

and oh the moon is flat too?

Teempakguy:
exactly. However, even when the earth is generous and offers several clues, some people still reject it. To no apparent benefit.


PS, good morning, it's been too long.

yes brother, dont you think it'ds time we laid some hate once more

notjonbellion:
seems like you were the only athiest in the debate

The guy on red is

hahn:
I see a future in that guy. He is going to surpass kingebukasblog and winner01 combined in the delivery of packaged bullshit

#sighs - just when you think you have seen it all..

hahn:
I believe. I will still dribble the hell out of you on any bball court

na poster you go collect

Why na?

geee i wonder...

hahn:
Guy, where is the video now? You promised o abi you don dey copy God?

I never get am na.. No be document am..

hahn:
Johnydon22 had a debate last year even though he has refused to share it with us

Maybe he doesn't want to to make fun of his height

You know i am very much proud of my height - that's the best part of being me..

I am sure there have been many of such but not in a grand scale...

I have being invited to such a debate and i debated that night, enjoyed every bit of it...

Anyway I'm game when ever theists and atheists here decide to organize a live debate...

cckris:
Moses. A great Scientist, Prophet, Leader, Nation Builder.

Your definition of scientist is a man who thinks Goats who mate in front of a certain tree branch will give birth to spotted offsprings - Literally murdered Genetics.

Then i am pretty sure your own science is different from the one here..

Belthazor:
The bible is a lie.

it's just a literary work expressing how a particular culture understood the world in a particular old timeline - it's an eloquent work of literature that deserves as much respect and consideration as every other scattered in every culture.

these are remnants of a much simpler and different past, gives credence to man's cry to understand the cosmos and our role in it. the explanations might not be true but it shows the colourful ingenuity of the antique minds.

oneolajire:
It is God's world,
It is man man's world. we must follow God's laws.

if sex is impure then it must have come from an impure source - remind again who made it?

Flexherbal:
Some of these things are beyond human comprehension.

this is ludicrous excuse - if all humans thought like this we possibly might still be riding horses.

hahn:
Where are all those heathens?

plaetton, johnnydon22, benzics, hardmirror, frank317, lennycool, teempakguy, jonbellion, unclesnr, lepasharon, 4kings, capslocked, joywendy, mrmrmister, hopefulLandlord (may you buy house this year ), dalaman

lol brother my username is Johnydon22 only one N.. anyway i am here, just observing waiting for someone to talk...

if you consider a woman impure after you have touched her then you might want to take a look at yourself

we are basically like microscopic organisms living on the skin of this blue world, at such scale it is fully understandable why some think that the tiny part of this world that form their horizon since it appears flat then the whole thing should be flat - it can be a natural though to a tiny being refusing to develop and see thing from a much grandeur cosmic perspective.

ShoProperties:
Why isn't life enough proof for atheists that God exists? How can something so complicated occur randomly?
There will never be enough proof for atheists until God walks up to them and asks them so sit down and shut up… and I don’t see that happening. I enjoy my agnostic friends that question the existence of God. I think everyone who has faith questions at one point or another, but that is what faith is all about.

The Famous Johannes Kepler once thought that the moon craters were works of intelligent beings on the moon, he observed the perfect geometrical models of the craters and he attributed this to intelligence since he thinks that such perfect circles can not be formed through random chaotic natural causalities - so he concluded that there must equally be intelligent beings on the moon just like earth.

But it's no news that he was wrong, the craters even though perfect circles are in fact product of chance and chaos, random fates interwoven in an uncharted cosmic play.
falling bodies of great speed (e.g meteors) will create a local explosion equally symetrical in every direction therefore creates perfect circles. so you are making the same mistake kepler did and that is placing a limit on nature from what you think it can achieve or cant.

Life is a chemistry made mostly of the most abundant elements in the universe, it's an intricate organic chemisty but the bedrocks of this chemistry is also abundant through out the universe - Hydrogen, carbon, oxygen, nitrogen are the basic compositions in the chemisty of life they are also the commonest elements in the universe.

Johanness kepler once asked while eating a salad "If this lettuce, cabbage, carrot, peas and milk has been floating eternally, could they be that by chance they will at a point meet and salad is made?"

"yes" was the answer given by his wife.

The universe has oxygen and hydrogen in abundance do you think water is not a MUST result? even though it is dependent on random distribution of these elements - water is still in abundance through out this cosmos.

the universe has every material necessary for life, you are just limiting it's possibility by establishing the limit of complexity you think it can achieve which is in fact dishonest - nature is boundless and as far as we know the universe might be teaming with life just like it has water.

even an organic compound as complex as ethanol (alcohol) occurs naturally.

Complexity can also be a product of accumulation over time, you are neglecting the important factor which is TIME.

then again let us examine the argument that "something complex cannot be without being designed" well i am not saying you are wrong by saying God must have probably designed life or anything else but check this.

For something to be conscious, intelligent and powerful enough to design or create something as intricate as life that thing must be equally as complex or even more complex.

so isn't God definite and perfect?
Isn't God beautiful?
isn't God overly complex?

unless you would argue that God is just a conscious nebulous nothing.

so using an even more complex thing (God) to explain the complexity of life by trailing the line "nothing complex can exist without being put in place by external design" the argument falls on itself.

since God is equally complex doesn't that logic require God to be also designed and caused? But if you say God is not caused or designed then you have by yourself contradicted your own argument by proposing something (God) can exist without being put in place.

therefore we can still apply that pleading, save a step and say that your argument does not hold sway on the complexity of life.

Chance is a cosmological agent - imagine this, on the night of your conception up to 2million sperm cells swam towards the ovum and each of this sperm cells could have formed a different individual and do not forget that even the ovum itself if it was different could still lead to a different result.

so now even your own chance of existing is less than 1:2,000,000... but yet here you are, it means that up to 2,000,000 other possible humans are not existing because you are existing.

it was a very slim chance, nearly impossible but you are here - Understand this that something is unlikely or has a slim chance is not exactly same as impossible and given a very broad field of incessant causalities like the cosmos 'nothing is impossible'

DoctorAlien:
It's not as if they don't know that GOD exists: they know that GOD exists. They'd rather continue to assure themselves that He does not exist than give up their sinful lifestyles.

Honestly this is not an argument - it's like saying one knows the police exist but then willfully imagines they don't so they can commit crimes.

I never thought someone could still use this. . It's a wow...

And again SIN is not exactly same as morals and ethics...

So tell me does having a belief make you anymore moral and ethical than me?

Secondly - almost 95% of Nigerians believe in a God, tell me would you say Nigeria is sinless ?

Immorttal:
Interesting read, you write extremely well. If you wanna take writing as a leisure income spinner I will recommend you try the Sci-fi niche, the fan base is big on amazon.
When are you going to round up the untold story of job kwanu?

thank you, i am actually focusing on writing now as my major source of income. (Freelance writing) and also selling my stories.

I still have the Job story in mind but i have got a lot on my plate plus my blog

they feel pain because something bigger than the hole is coming out of the damn hole - isn't it just obvious?

you guys should really stop taking ancient folklores serious

STUPID MAN

Through a darkness like the bottom of hell, I could hear the voices of the other students calling for their mothers. And at the base of the bridge, inside a big cistern that had been dug out there, was a mother weeping, holding above her head a naked baby that was burned red all over its body.

And another mother was crying and sobbing as she gave her burned breast to her baby. In the cistern the students stood with only their heads above the water, and their two hands, which they clasped as they imploringly cried and screamed, calling for their parents.

But every single person who passed was wounded, all of them, and there was no one, there was no one to turn to for help. And the singed hair on the heads of the people was frizzled and whitish and covered with dust. They did not appear to be human, not creatures of this world.
Hiroshima nuclear bomb survivor

Oh my God, what have we done?
Exclamation of the pilot who dropped the Hiroshima bomb

The face of the world turned bright white, the pilot looked on with horror and fear as the little uncontained sun spread like waves of water. The intelligent man has become too stupid after all.

Throughout the course of our evolution when our ancestors conquered the tree-less plains and began to develop the basis of our intelligence, the intelligence of man has been his greatest tool, the number one tool for survival and ecological domination.

Then we built nuclear bombs and our intelligence became the greatest threat to our survival.

In our booming scientific breakthroughs and intellectual growth, it almost certainly seems like our advancement walks hand in hand with our doom.

Man is not a perfect model, he is vulnerable, he is young and timid but there is a certain depth in his short coming. he’s like a child playing with a toy with sharp ends with no adult supervision, exploring and experiencing every inch of his interesting curious toy almost certainly oblivious though seem more so willfully blinded to the dangers lurking within the edges of this beautiful toy.

We are very young species who but recently joined the cosmic arena, the only species on planet earth that has taken our curiosity of our world right above the heaven, our intelligence becoming ever intricate and our burden becoming great since the more we know, the more we learn the more that needs to be learned and the more we develop the more we become a danger to ourselves.

There have been very many great wars fought in human history, man will readily fight for something as trivial as a woman’s attention, countless has met their doom at the edge of the sword because some greedy ruler wants a bag full of soil, a remote patch of land lost within the vastness of the oceans.

From the Great Greek blind Poet Homer, Agamemnon had readily charged every Greek soldier to battle just for the king of Sparta to have his price – Helen.

The conquest of the Ming Dynasty by the Qing dynasty etched in the antiquity of great China saw as many as 25million fatalities, world war one saw as many as 20 million.

Then just when things seem cannot get any worse came the greatest fight in history, a staggering fatality toll of up to 40million, the Second World War – yes man has been that careless, has been that thoughtless, has been that aggressive and territorial and yes has been that stupid.

There are no species on earth that can match up to man in the brutality of his conflict, man towers above every species in intelligence and in ferocity that you cannot help but wonder if we are really that intelligent after all.

The brain is a complex machine that has seen a certain evolutionary journey, series of modification or additions to be rightly put.
The Brain stem forming the foundation of the neurological structure, it can be found in the most humble species with very simple brain.
But one curious thing is that when a new brain part develops in a much higher organism the older brain is not replaced but rather the new brain forms right around it.

After the brain stem comes the R-complex, an ancient part of the brain we share with the reptilian creatures of this world
It is responsible for aggressiveness, territorial behaviors, rituals – almost certainly seems that this part of our neurological order controls a very shouty part of our behavior, a part that most times controls us and shuts off our dependence on the more soothing and kind Limbic system or the analytical overly intelligent young Cerebral cortex.

The Second World War fanned a major advancement in human technology mostly in our quest to out show the other in our destructive power.
It started with the little simple and overly powerful equation coined by the famous Albert Einstein E=MC^2.

An equation that made the universe look a little simpler, painted a clearer picture of the beautiful chaos that painted very clear pictures that formed an intrinsic part of our cosmic perspective.

We have uncovered the mysteries of why the stars shine, we have discovered the secret of why the sun was so harsh, ever burning and glowed – the secrets the Gods must have talked about in hushed tones.

We have discovered the power of the atom – our cosmic perspective was changed forever.

We have understood a truth of nature that tickled our minds and bothered our imagination; Nature it seems became powerful the more you delved into the smaller bits, the smaller it gets the more power it holds.

It all began with a lingering worry that the Germans were trying to develop a bomb that was dependent on Einstein’s little equation, a weapon that could easily bring the war to an end, civilizations to it’s knees, turn once bustling metropolises into deserted waste land.

The Americans hurriedly joined the race and the Atomic bomb was born nicknamed “little Boy”

We now hold the very glow of the sun in the palms of our hand, the very power that brought us closer to the shores of extinction.
The little boy blast was more than every explosive device used in the Second World War combined.

The war went crazy, the race for the nuclear power turned into a frenzy fever, an ominous thirst for power now we have thousands of atomic bombs armed and ready even at this very moment, devices that dwarf the first atomic bomb used in Hiroshima by a very humongous scale in terms of destructive power.

As a matter of fact the nuclear war heads built and are currently in this planet have the ability to destroy the planet 5 times over, a lingering apocalypse, Armageddon lurking at our door step.

The welcome ray of the sun will be blocked by this effect, the rivers would be red as blood from intense radioactivity, the lands would be barren dry and weak.

And the stars fell from heaven like fig
the Bible

In all this bothering saga, in all this hellish possibilities a certain realization makes it all the more fearful, more heartbreaking and ominous, the threat are not Gods who are angry at us and unleash cups of plagues of reckoning, flying armored Gods in a harvest mission, zombies, vampires or very many other fearful tales we have come up with through our journey.

But rather the very factor to the realization of this threatening Armageddon is man himself.

There is a certain idiocy in the politics of man, the greed and selfishness may be understood but there are certain political decisions that make you question the very sanity of the political class.

There is an international treaty that forbids any form of nuclear power being used in space, Carl Sagan bemoaned this ludicrous treaty.
A show of collective insanity, how is it not Ok to use nuclear power in space where it poses less threat to us but it is ok to have thousands of nuclear bombs all armed and aimed at the earth itself.

I am confounded by the idiocy of this treaty.

If there is one place Nuclear energy is needed it is obviously outside the earth’s stratosphere, nuclear-powered spacecrafts could be used to travel to other worlds more efficiently and faster – it could be a very effective help in man’s cosmic quest.

As Neil Degrasse Tyson once said Imagine a world where nations find the search for life in the universe more interesting than taking life on earth

Just imagine, we may yet find wisdom in our vulnerability.

this a continuation of the previous work https://www.nairaland.com/3145298/songs-worlds-johnydon22
i have opened a fresh thread to bring in a fresher look to the previous chapter, a new cosmic perception will be discussed and treated.