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Anas07:
Why? It's me johnny... I am your friend. I already have a fulfilled life so I don't need to get a life.

Its totally obvious... This is just childish

Anas07:
I am dead serious johnny. This is not some ruse or stunt meant for nefarious purpose. I meant all I said.

bro i just called her now, we frequently talk offline so i am very sure you are not her and this story doesn't make sense...

Just wait a tick she'll be here

This is becoming ridiculous, i just called Ann right now and this isn't her... Anyway she's coming here right now to clear this up..

@Op dude get a life..

Doesn't sound like a theist venturing into an atheistic stance. This story would serve more for an atheist getting converted..

Trance, visions and stuff... Anyway op should do better cus renouncing religion is a slow and hard journey not something one wakes up one morning and decides..

I talk with anas09 offline, let me call her now cus i surely think this is an impostor or she's just playing a prank..

hahn:
Where is the rice and chicken and beer and weed na?

Today happens to be my wedding anniversary too. If to say we dey close we for flex together

my bae dey come my house, goan celebrate by yourself cus i'm not going anywhere today at all

KingEbukasBlog:
Let me put it is straight to you , its an illogical question . That was all I was trying to tell you .

Lol... So any question you cannot answer is illogical, you probably should have saved us the trouble and said so and not pour unrelated answers..

Anyway i hear you... Carry on!!!

dalaman:
Happy birthday bro johnydon22. Wishing you many good years ahead.

Thank you

KingEbukasBlog:
Hmmm brother John

The First Cause is God .

It does not need to be a certain way before it is accepted as God .

The certain way you are thinking maybe an old bearded guy sitting on the throne with emotions and all - that is called anthropomorphism .

Its just a way of giving God personal attributes to make It comprehensible to the human reader

Check this out : https://www.nairaland.com/3504236/xenophanes-criticism-anthropomorphism-vs-triune

Lol... The question was very straight sir and this does not answer the question one bit or address the basis of its logic or do you want me to break it down further?

Anyway that's ok i understand, anybody else care to help?

KingEbukasBlog:
You seem not to understand bro

There is no such thing as "whatever self existent " its like saying there are numerous first causes - it does not make any sense .

All I'm saying is that the First Cause which is God is self existent .

There is no special whatever

you dig ?

lol its obvious you didn't get the question...

Ok let me put it in another way, could we infer then that what ever the first cause is (no matter what it is) is God or must this first cause be a certain way before we regard it god?

Any help from the audience..

hahn:
True. But how many variations of Einstein's theory existed as opposed to the 4200 versions of god?

Lol..

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol . The First cause is self existent . I referred to the First cause as self existent or uncaused . The First Cause is God . You can deduce properties of the First cause as timeless , changeless , unimaginably powerful , immaterial etc

i doubt if you understand the question cus this answer seem like it is addressing another question..

Read it again

"so can we then put it that whatever it is that was self existent is God or must this self existent thing be special in a particular way in order to be referred to as God?"

reallest:
My cake oooo,happy bornday

Chisoooos... I talk am.

hahn:
No. But you still argue in favor of an imaginary concept

the topic of God(s) is a speculative one and speculations cannot be entirely be dismissed as bogus nor should they be accepted as truth until proven..

Einstein's relativity theory or even the theory of premodial atom were once under the sphere of cosmological speculations..

KingEbukasBlog:
Happy birthday

ScepticalPyrrho:
happy birthday johnnydon

Lol thank you thank you... You guys will soon turn thuz boy's thread into birthday wish thread...

KingEbukasBlog:
Pretty basic ? I seriously dont think you know powerful those arguments are

lol probably from your own perspective i can understand..

Answer this first , have you observed any self existent thing within this universe ?

I occupy a very miniscule part of the universe, so i cant make an absolute statement encompassing the totality of cosmological manifestation but for my tiny niche, i have not observed any yet..

Even though it was quite wrong asking someone a question when they ask you one, i will just let it slide..

So can you answer mine now?

Here

"so can we then put it that whatever it is that was self existent is God or must this self existent thing be special in a particular way in order to be referred to as God?"

LoJ:
ohh Truly? Brother mine, I didn't know. Happy birthday

Let's celebrate!

thank you sire!!!

hahn:
Just want to warn you. That guy hasn't changed. He is now worse even

bro its my birthday, my bae is coming to my house now and i for one have no strength not even 1 to dabble into anything peurile, once the discussion looses the taste i leave it... I have evolved past a certain stage - i no longer see need for ceaseless needless arguments online especially making it personal...

This board has gone really personal, lots of animosity brewing here... I no get energy for that over something as trivial as God or important as religion.

KingEbukasBlog:
The four arguments for the existence of God

1. The Cosmological Argument

2. The Moral argument

3. The Teleological Argument

4. Ontological Argument

With these , it can be deduced beyond doubt that God exists .

these are pretty basic

Ps: Infinite regress does not explain anything and its the atheist's resort when a logical necessity which is the First Cause eludes him .

It is absolutely logical that something Self existent (God) caused other things to exist . It also been proven the universe is one big effect and not a cause .

basically your argument is "something must be self existent" so can we then put it that whatever it is that was self existent is God or must this self existent thing be special in a particular way in order to be referred to as God?

BaEnki:
johnydon22

I can see that today is your birthday bro, I wish you more successful years ahead. Happy birthday.

Thanks bro

Richirich713:
Revelation, reason and logic is how man came to believe God exists.

expatiate.... Lets see

ogologoamu:
Your response have no relevance on the question i asked.

Lol... Good one

Nigerian prophets be like... " i prophecy that 2016 will finish December 31st"

urchcoded:
Before u call me an idiot, i did believe in God but I'm not sure i believe now until someone or he somehow show me dat he actually exists... Any way i was discussing with some die hard Christian... Told her God don't exist. She asked me who created d world i replied i'on know she said is God. I asked who den created God she said she doesn't know... So dis is my opinion....

The first man now sits on the floor looking at the fire he made from stones, the shelter he made from Wood, the cloths he made from plants... But now says to him self who now made the flowers, the sky, the seas, he is very sure it is someone like him but just more powerful, more wise and more everything he(man) is so he said it must be God. Hence it would be only reasonable to say man created God in his own image.... And not the other way round... *thanks*

So God(s) were answers to sate man's thirst to answer the bothering question nature posed?

ogologoamu:
@ op, why is it that no human even scientists with their sophisticated gadgets have been able to travel to the sun and come back alive?.

this doesn't really have any relevance to the issue he raised..

Richirich713:
Or God exists and man recognized his existence.

How? We barely recognized the existence of Neptune that is just in our corridor few years ago..

Go on

JackBizzle:
Sharrap.

I could care less about Zuckerberg's atheism. I just want to expose KingEbukasblog.

#sighs.

Jeez you lot should give this shiit a rest, what in world makes Zuckerberg's atheism special. For God sake even the Pope is not an atheist..

You guys should really chill out.. This whole thing is going more than just debate.. It has gone really emotional and personal

Bluehawk:
actually there was a Hindu document of their gods flying around the sky in flying chariots and it even says a weapon brighter than a thousand suns was used. awfully similar to an atomic bomb.this was before the universal flood.. areas in Australia that had no contact with other continents also have an ancient statues of spaceships used by these annunaki creatures.. they had scales on their skins and they want gold..even prophets of god have described seeing scales on some occasions.. remember the bush where God met moses..it was near mount Sinai.people are saying they were refining gold in the volcanic mountain or mining it..hence the smoke and rumbling..

its a curious possibility

wiegraf:
Are you guys revolving around anony in that pic?

lol

HCpaul:
Hmm.... Longest time bro.

I don miss you o. Lucky for me, I ain't celebrating this year Xmas the way I was.

well i have missed you too though i have being terribly busy which means less time for nairaland..

anyway i am letting myself enjoy the christmas, i will be in Abuja first week of January... still there?