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Brigance:
Im sorry.. not possible.

Here's why:

"If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his father and
mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters and yes,
even his life, he is not able to be My disciple."

Luke 14:26.

Stop using one book to quantify the whole of mankind, that Jesus requires hate and rejection of one's closest values doesn't mean it is something applaudable or worth agreeing with.

it is a stupi_d charge, destroying and demeaning to human intellect and will

Scientifically it has been proven that humans are all ONE people, The color of our ancestors skin and ultimately mine and yours and every other persons are consequences of ultra-violet light variations of latitude and longitude despite the current racism going on.

There really is no such a thing as RACE.

We are one specie, we each more alike than we are different. we all came from Africa and we are all same stardust, and we are all going to live out our lives on the same planet, a pale blue dot floating in the vastness of space, we all need to work together - - Bill Nye.

We are all humans until Race disconnected us, Religion separated us, Politics divided us and wealth classified us.

Hate is a total waste of time, you are only embittering and poisoning your own self thinking you are doing harm to the other.

It never really harms the other but you..

It's like a piece of burning charcoal in your hands which you aim at throwing at another person, you only end up burning your hand.

Is that a baby? that's more like his ancestor.... lol..

Africans getting scammed by daft con men wearing a suit and wielding a bible in the name of Jesus because of their astronomical gullibility.

when you want to save them from such demeaning gullibility they'd also aggressively repel and chastise you.

Makes me sometimes feel that people who are gullible enough to get scammed in their millions by these con pastorprenuers deserves to be scammed

I have encountered a ghost before!!! Yes you heard right now read my story on how it happened that faithful day

This is a true life experience of mine that i'm going to share right now.

As a kid still in my primary 4 or 5 back then, we lived deep inside Ugbo-oghe a notorious sub-urb of Enugu state.

Yeah we were introduced to ghost stories from a very young age and we have watched a lot of it from nollywood movies like Witches, Igodo and co.

I was so sure ghosts are real especially at night when the passages became so dark, i could hardly cross them unless with an adult or light or would run faster than i knew i could.

we lived in a room within the passage though, it became worse when one of our neighbours died, i would never cross the passage, ever! unless i was with someone.

Ghosts might catch me.

Then on that faithful day, evening though just at the peak of twilight. I was the only person out of all my siblings at home, papa and mama were out too, immediately the sun went down i couldn't stay inside our room again cus everything was getting dark and there was no light so i ran out into the open yard to play with others.

After a while i felt thirsty, and i needed to drink water. After minutes of gathering liver i decided to brave the almost pitch black passage though slightly lit from the gray twilight.

I'd then enter our already dark room to get myself some water, though fear lingered on in my mind i went in none the less.

then on getting in front of our room just before i stepped in. i began to hear some noises inside our room like someone was walking inside and i was sure i was the only one at home.

Jesus!! e don happen, ghost deh inside my house.

All the liver and courage i gathered evaporated immediately as i ran out again into the yard, called my friend chinedu he followed me back and we tip toed just to the front of our door peeping to see what was inside but that was impossible since it was dark but the footsteps still walked around.

Then an idea came, lets pour water inside the room, it might disappear or chase after us and there are lots of adults inside the yard so if we run inside the adults will be there to save us.

it was a very good idea and we both agreed.

we got a bucket full of water and a small custard cup, tip toed back to the door with Chinedu holding the bucket. I start raining cups after cups of water towards the corner of the dark room i could hear the foot steps.

after pouring like 5 cups i was sure i could hear the footstep moving towards us so we ran into the yard waiting.

Then the most unexpected thing happened..

From the dark room through the passage, out came My Father drenched with water

I had batted papa with water thinking it was a ghost.

Turns out he came home just when i ran into the yard to play at first..



Cc. sweetcocoa shollyps, hahn, urahara, Loj , hardmirror, explorers, sirWere

I love her songs soteeey i nearly have all of them.. HBD Boo boo

sylvalord:
Actually, all what you just typed is what christianity is about. Total stupidity, mental slavery, willful submission and subjection to derision. Don't worry, i won't ever go back!

Hahahahaha total knock out!!!

Lucario007:
And to the Atheists:

1.Do you simply dismiss the possibility of the Religious Gods and miracles, or do you feel that there is absolutely no possibility of the existence of any form of supernatural force in the vastness of the universe?

Both Carl Sagan and Einstein great minds recognized that imaginations can take you beyond the limits of your reach, yet without empiricism imaginations becomes blind and uncertain.

So if we can imagine, there is a possibility of the existence of any form of force or forces call it what ever you will, supernatural, preternatural or even a confine of nature too.


In fact the universe itself is a collection of distinct forces so i am always at lost when people talk about what ever forces, i see a need for specification in order to derive a premise.

If you assert an independent persona because religious ideas of deities are always in the form of a person, so if by the supernatural force you are referring to an independent conscious persona out of nature but controls or created nature then since that is in the realm of imagination i see no reason why we should believe or agree to it as a truth.

Rather it should remain within the confines of imagination unless we empirically illuminates such manifestation.

Until then such speculation is blind in essence and i find it outrightly nonsensical to believe.

A.If you do feel so, what makes you so certain, that as a mere human with limited intelligence and lifespan, you can claim that there is no supernatural force in existence when you will live for less than a fraction of the time the earth has been in existence?

Nothing is impossible, that is a certain truth. . .But if you claim something to be, you've got to show 'how' you deducted that to be and demonstrate it in order to prove beyond doubt it's existentiality.

"Supernatural" is a vague term. You are a natural being, if you can ever perceive anything within this confines of nature then that thing must be another distinct manifestation of nature.

If you term something to be above nature and call it supernatural then you as a natural being will never perceive such vibrations, so there is no way for you to know if there is such a thing.

But if you claim to know there is then you either prove it or it is bogus... (My stance)

2.Why do most of you treat theists as though they are mentally incompetent, and simply cannot understand to let them believe what they wish to believe?

If everybody let anybody believe what they wanted, the church would have still maintained a Geocentric solar system (where the sun and other planets revolved around the earth)

If everybody let anybody believe anything they want people would still think epilepsy are demonic attacks.

No my good sir i say No to that, such beliefs are dangerous to human intellectual evolution.

Nothing should be above criticism, belief more so. we should place everything under the judgement of criticism, scrutiny because every ounce of idea out there has an effect on human collective intellectual evolution.

So we have gone past the era when truth is chastised in order to uphold gut feelings and personal beliefs that is totally absurd...


Nobody is stopping anybody from believing what they want but at the same time nobody should stop anybody from challenging these beliefs and how they affect the human society

That is the atheist stance at least mine as an atheist, so what are you saying, nobody is stopping anybody from believing anything we only scrutinize and challenge these beliefs and any belief that feels it is the truth should never be afraid of scrutiny or beg to deny others the right to criticize or challenge it's ideas.


because collectively it affects the human society and we are all humans living in a human society and so since it affects the human society it affects us and so by virtue of
being a part of the human society every human idea, belief, study is our business.

3.And lastly, most atheists claim that the theory of intelligent design is wrong, if so, then why can we not explain the discovery of overwhelmingly beautiful works of art naturally occurring such as the uniqueness of a Snowflake's shape and the arts of a butterfly's wings? Do you truly believe such beautiful works can occur naturally or by accident?
Reasonable answers please. Thank you.

Beauty is the product of the observer, and this complexity argument always brings about infinite regress.

-Here you are pointing at complex and beautiful natural manifestations to maybe suggest a designer.

-Now you are missing something, isn't this designer also complex? fully functional and intelligent? isn't it beautifully precise even more so than the nature you are pointing at.

So if nature needs to be designed then you'd also agree that this designer also must need to be designed, isn't?

and then the designer behind the designer must also require design and then we are in an infinite regress.

But if you argue the designer even though complex and precise and beautiful doesn't require a designer then all this above argument shatters since therefore you have shown something can be complex without being designed therefore nature does not also require a designer.

With the much about nature we know, it is that nature evolves it never stays the same and this natural development of self makes nature a complex system of random interaction filled with trials and errors.

Just how beautiful is nature in volcanoes, earth quakes, tsunamis, galaxies colliding, planetary bodies colliding, solar flares, solar winds, radiations?

Are these also the beautiful parts of nature that makes you assert a designer? beauty is a child of perception and from our perception there are things we can consider beautiful in nature and others we can consider absolutely horrible.

99.6% of this universe will kill you instantly, how is that so beautiful?

Nature has no goals or plans or set of desired design to achieve it just happens uncaring how it manifests, you think nature cares if people live in new york before an asteroid will crash down into the city?

Nature is very random and unplanned, beauty and horrible parts of natures speaks tons on how these manifestations are uncharted and unplanned but rather random.

there is no desired goal or scheme.

First instance, you as a natural entity was at a particular time in you development a tiny measly single cell then a zygote divides into more cells and keeps dividing into more cells and gets more complex.

You are an example of how nature derives complexity, from the simplest form it builds its way to complexity slowly and consistently even as you are now you are still developing and becoming more complex.


Early stars were just balls of burning hydrogen, the fusion created iron, oxygen and carbon and other heavier elements came into existence and then these elements joined the universal playing field and the possibilities of results widened.

now new stars formed with all these elements already present in them whereas older stars didn't have them originally.

development has taken place, nature have evolved and with the introduction of newer element from nuclear fusion a step of complexity has been achieved, that is how it keeps going, more interactions bringing out newer values and it gets even more.

-Take a look at a desertic sand dune, the lines are beautiful and precise and seems more likely to be a work of design by an artist but it is not, it is the chaotic random interaction of wind and dust and from whence a result emerges, a pattern.

from every random interaction there is always a pattern and a result.

Nature is always developing and this development makes it a MUST that it should be complex, if nature never evolves then the universe would have remained just a singularity..

Since Nature evolves then nature must, should and expectedly is Complex, shouldn't be a surprise

Yes as a human used to the works of human art and design, it is normal for one to attribute every other complex perception or manifestation as a work of design also but that is naive.

we are only quantifying everything that is within the confines of our own small ability or perception.

It is also normal for people to think the sun went round the earth merely by looking at the sun rise and set but that also is naive.

So you see, something being a normal line of thought doesn't always make it right it most times can be naive and overcoming naive ideas to find out the truth will be the only thing that can drive us into the next phase of our intellectual evolution.

Thank you

Jesus Christ!!! I give up on Buhari and APC . . . a country of 170million, you pay 5k to 1million.

169million remaining...

I doubt if Buhari actually thinks at all like WTF

This is the best palliative measure these guys can come up with, seriously this is sickening!!!

Nigeria is on a long thing....

I swear GEJ was a far better option than this man 1000times over, forget all this useless propaganda of corruption this corruption that....

How did we come to this?

Turned the hands of time too far that we couldn't do better than an old recycled military dictator who has no secondary diploma.

[quote author=Hiswordxray post=45650252][/quote]sir i did not report you neither did i know what you are talking about... if you were banned then you must have broken one of nairaland's rules, that is nobody's fault.

Episode 7


The game was on, the Gods may throw a dice with minds as cold as ice and someone tiny down here looses something dear. The cruel hands of unseen fate has gripped Job by the neck as he has being caught up in a severe chess game between God and his son.

Back in hell lucifer was grinning cheerfully how well the plan of the Sabaeans worked, so flawlessly that he realize Kilu has been planning that move for long now.

In outskirts of Uz a very green land with running spring water perfect for sheep herding, Job's sheep grazed there eating the finest of grass and water.

Lucifer contacted the department for natural stubbornness, a department of his that can manipulate natural phenomenas into stubborn uncaring ones.

The skies thickened as strange clouds gathered all of a sudden. Baffled the head of the sheep herders called others together. "I think it's about to rain hard, lets go down towards that small village for shelter for us and the sheep and come out after the rain"

As they gathered the sheep and packed up camp, a thunder storm began from no where. Uncharted bolts of lightening clapping from eveey angle burning down trees, fields, lightening slicing the herds into half, turning some into half roasted chunks of meat.

The strange lightening bolts struck down both the herders and their herds of sheep except for one, a young chap Job had bought from the caravan band of traders from Sudan who were skilled sheep herders.

he was struck just before the elbow turning the hand black and paralyzed but he survived out of everything in the pasture.

Immediately the strange thunder and lightening episode, he stood up to find everything either dead or burnt, the head of the herders was disemboweled by the lightening, some severely burnt into an unrecognizable state.

With stinging pains on his arm darkened by the strike of a lightening, he gripped hard his robe and ran down towards Uz to report to Job the horror movie he just witnessed swallowing the pains his hands gave him as he ran through streams and fields of corn.

Just as Job was still lamenting over the lost of his oxens and donkeys, the Sudanese boy ran into his compound with a half roasted arm, a face filled with horror and tears, whistling breathe.

Fell on Job's feet grabbing his feet with his face touching the ground in deep sorrow.

"Master! they are all gone, lightning!!" He cried

"What are you saying?" Job asked with a sad confused face still saddened by the news of his oxens and donkeys he just got 2minutes ago.

The Sudanese boy looked up, his eyes red with tears and he winced every now and then from the pains in his arm.
"We were grazing in the outskirts of the countryside near the village of Dum, then all of a sudden, a strange thunder storm came from no where, lightening bolts struck down everything and everyone, all the sheep were burnt and men killed, i was the only survivor and i ran to tell you" he broke down crying hard.

"oh God!!, what is happening?" Job groaned in total dismay, thrown into total confusion over what is happening.

Just then another servant ran through the Olive avenue with blood all over his face, a deep cut on his fore-head.

He fell on Job's feet beside the Sudanese boy "Master, in the hill country of Moab where we herded your camels, three heavily armed bands of Chaldeans raiders attacked us, they carried off all your camels and killed everyone, i was the only survivor who ran tell you"

Job could barely believe his ears, he was sweating on a cold evening.

Another servant ran in totally drenched in hot sweat "Sir all your store houses of wheat, millet, barely, rice and food stuffs has been burnt by a strange fire. everything is lost!!" he yelled

Every piece of news struck Job like a thousand dagger in his heart, piecing like a cruel arrow of a fate-full bow.

Not less than 5 more servants ran in simultaneously each bringing a different bad news of varying severity.

"The government of Amon seized all your estates and killed all your servants working there."
"Thieves from Egypt raided your gold store!!"
"Master all your fields has been burnt by a strange fire"

- - - - -

The children of Job was out in the house of Jabrel partying as usual. He had spent no expense in the preparation, he wanted his own turn to be talked more than that of Malel who hosted them before.

Jabrel had invited exotic dancers from Persia, food was delivered from Lebanon and the best of wine Sumer could offer.

the music blared as the girls danced while the sons of Job and their sisters ate, drank and laughed.

- - - - -

Back in Job's house that unfortunate evening, Job was shivering from the density of the bad news he had received.

Another female servant ran into Job's compound crying with ashes all over her face.

Job wondered what was chasing the young woman but shuddered at the news she might be bringing, he peered deeper at the figure running towards him, even with the ashes covering her head and face she was a familiar sight.

He recognized her, she was the maiden servant he had assigned to his first and favourite daughter, but he was sure they were all at Jabrel's house for the party.

"what was she doing here when her mistress was at the party in Jabrel's house" Job wondered within him as he watched with a fearful mind as she got closer and closer.

"Master!!" she shrieked falling down on the ground "we were at the party in Jabrel's house, when all of a sudden a great wind blew from the desert and the house fell killing everybody, all your children and their servants i am the only one who survived"

She had not finished when Job yelled in a devastated anguished tone, fell to his knees crying aloud throwing sands all over his face and head.

It was not bad enough he had lost everything, all his wealth and riches but he had lost all ten of his children on the same day.

"Is this how cruel the voyage of life is? You may bask in the sunlight in one moment and be shattered against the rocks in the next" He moaned.

"I was born with nothing, i will die with nothing. The lord gives and he has taken away. Praise be his name" Job muttered the ever profound words of faith, it almost seemed like he knew God had moved the chess piece that has shattered his good fortunes.

...Continued in next episode

Hey guys, my battery is very low. . . Don't worry it's charging now once it's charged at least 50% i will write and upload episode 7

BodyKiss:
The emboldened killed this episode. Best part of the episode

Alfamann:
Please don't. They'll spoil this thread. Keep the story coming. A good story sells itself.

You are right boss..

UyiIredia:
@ johnydon22: You are a skilled storyteller. Keep up the good work.

Thank you bro

Episode 7 soon..

plaetton:
Hhhmm.

There seems to be a Great Disturbance In The FARCE.

Honestly. . . A great purge in the minds of our youths dispelling superstitions and religions.

The emergence of reason always is a slow and consistent process. . . we are witnessing that consistent progress on NL in their numbers lately.

People become atheists long before they realize it or accept it, agnosticism in a broad way is still diluted atheism

Enjoy your life, have fun. . . what ever we become, choose to or will become, one thing stands out.

We all are still humans (atheist, theist, deist etc), a lost specie in a vast cosmos floating on a small tiny blue marble still trying to figure out how the world works and our role in it

calliope:
Lol... Questions? I thought I would be one doing the asking..

Hahahahaha of course ... still there are some things you can also teach me

Edybleketara:
Wrong premise. Atheist are not trying to proof God does not exist. Atheist dont hate God. We just want to be certain dat he exist, then we will believe and worship him. Is dat too difficult to comprehend?

Even if a God exists i still won't worship it, i doubt if something that powerful will require something as petty and vain as worship.

If any God is proven, it leaves the realm of belief/Faith and becomes a clear certainty..

But none have ever been proven, can or will ever be that's why all Gods and religions are based on something as blind and dishonest as faith as a basis for belief

calliope:
I have alot to ask you, alot on mind, it would be pleasure Mr johnydon22, to get to have a nice conversation

I can always create time for a conversation when ever you guys visit Enugu, it will be my pleasure to help you find the answers you seek..

Looking forward to that, also remember i also may have my own questions ..

@Edybleketara i will contact you on whatsapp now

calliope:
I school there. (nsukka precisely) but visit Enugu town for medical.
Are you from enugu or you live there.

I am from Enugu and also living there..

you and Edybleketara are quite close, you guys can always talk and when ever you both come to Enugu we can always hang out for some cheap drinks and a sane fun discussion

calliope:
Wow... You not to far from the University town. #happy

You stay in Enugu too?

Episode 6


Lucifer got back to his hell mansion located at number 1 hell estate deep within the capital of hell metropolis.

A charming environment with a mature touch of black paints riddled in gold, girls in tight micro bikinis walked around the streets, alcohol distilling units running freely and condoms vending machine littered the well tiled and neat streets that had railings of gold on black tiles.

One or two angels most times sneak out of heaven to pay a little visit to hell for some booze and a little ..... you know , he always gave them utmost secrecy so nobody finds out when they sneak back to heaven.

Just last week Angel Jemiel was there and he met angel Lachel stepping out of Hell luxury hotel with one of Lucifer's call girls with him.

"What are you doing here?" Jemiel yelled in surprise at Lachel who was almost thrown off balance from the surprise recognition but recalling his composure within seconds.

"Bros calm down, you nko wetin you find come here?" he replied

A bright grin littered their faces as they exchanged mischievous glances and moved.

"Choi this guy sabi set up better city" Lachel who was going on a sneak out of heaven trip to hell for the first time exclaimed as he feasted his eyes on the girls, booze and party all around him with his broad grin still on his face.

Meanwhile as Lucifer arrived home, he went immediately to his study for a good detailed plan on how to deal with Job according to God's command.

He thought about sending tsunami first but that would affect others in Uz and that was not part of the plan.

His personal assistant Abadeus emerged with his file clad under his arm pit.

"How was the meeting sir?" He asked professionally.

"it went great" Lucifer replied with his eyes still glued to the file before him trying to map out a good plan for Job "In fact i struck a deal with God today again" he announced to Abadeus.

"Really sir? that's great!"

"Yeah now we have to figure out how to carry out the details of the deal, go to our probing ministry and send them to earth, i need a thorough comprehensive detail on an earthling named Job living in the land of Uz, everything and i mean everything nothing is too small" he commanded as Abadeus turned immediately and headed out to carry out his assignment.

- - - -

It was not long before the next morning Abadeus returned with a detailed intensive research of everything about Job.

"He has a secret concubine in Amon"
"Another in Labennon"
every detail concerning Job was transparently revealed on the file he got from the ministry of personal probes.

A smile lit his face as he read through the details, 'several thousand livestocks, houses and estates in different parts of edom'

he also saw a revealing detail 'Job burnt cannabis alongside his morning sacrifices to God, he knew God loved the smell of burnt fleshes so he adds cannabis that God literally gets high every time he sniffs the smoke of Job's sacrifices'

"Son of a bit_ch!!" Lucifer blurted laughing, "no wonder father loves this guy, he literally gets high from his sacrifices" smart guy.

the report went on (Today the 15th day after the moon of Avaun) Jobs Sons and daughters would be gathering in the house of the third son jabrel to party as they usually do.

"Hhmmm seems like a good day to strike got the whole children together!!" he said to himself.

still on the report 'One of Job's slaves, a supervisor to his oxen and donkey stocks hated Job his name was Kilu who was from the sabaean tribe"

Lucifer saw a perfect tool, all Kilu needed was a little bit more magical tinkering to make up his mind, Lucifer contacted the department of magical tinkering and they introduced a malware on Kilu's mind feasting on his hatred for Job to derive effectiveness.

Kilu set out immediately just when the Oxens were ploughing the fields and the donkeys grazing nearby, he secretly met some of his sabaean friends and gave them insights on how to attack and loot the livestocks.

Just before evening the Sabaeans attacked, killed almost all the servants who looked after oxens and the herdsmen herding the donkeys, and made away with all the livestocks only one servant escaped the slaughter by pretending he was already dead when the killings went on.

Just after the Sabaeans left he got up and ran to report to Job.

Job was seated just in front of his house in the open field with small green grass carpets, colourful flowers bordering the sides and olive trees forming a big long avenue.

He sat relaxingly on his huge couch he had made special from Assyria, a mug of ale in his hand and the evening breeze caressing his body, a servant stood just beside him with a Jug of ale in case his cup runs out.

The servant who escaped the Sabaean raid ran wearily and tiredly through the Olive avenue into the yard and dropped at Job's feet panting severely from the long distances he had to run and shaking from the intense fear and trauma of the horror he just witnessed.

"Sir, Sir!! they attacked!!" he breathed out with difficulty.

"what is it speak!" Job barked with a slight touch of impatience..

"The Sabaean raiders attacked us in the hill country side where your donkeys grazed and oxens ploughed your field, they burned the field, carried away all the live stocks and killed everyone, i am the only survivor and ran to tell you"

The mug of ale in Job's hand fell off as he stood up immediately in sadness.

"This can't be happening" He groaned

Unknown to Job his troubles just began as his fate has been sealed by a cold bet between God and his son.

and thus began the woes of Job.

Continued in next episode

Richirich713:
"Hahahahahaha" same to u

Exactly my bro, so let us share our glasses and relax. . . The story is just starting

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/two-beer-glasses-20029947.jpg

Cheers

sweetcocoa:
Lol, Onye mgbu.

ROTFLMAO

Richirich713:
Invite ur mother also

Hahahahahahahaha chill bro don't take life too seriously, Sun rises and it sets its us that just complicate the process.

Take a beer and relax, there is no need getting worked up here ... lol

OLAADEGBU:
That is just your personal depraved opinion, you have no facts to buttress your point.

None needed this thread is enough to buttress his point

Brigance:
I appreciate you Johnny.

Infact, that thread inspired my thirst for knowledge of the physical world.

I'll happily close down this thread if you can slightly assure me that you'd more prolific with posts. Johnny, all you have there is the Newtonian laws of motion. I've read the thread, bookmarked them and reread them all over.

will try my best to make out time

https://www.nairaland.com/3033602/simplified-physics-johnydon22-part-1
you may like that

Weah96:
Wisdom. These people don't even have the
common respect that should be afforded to a potential creator, they reduce the creator idea to a mere superhuman person and then worship that hero.

That's why you will see both Manny Pacquiao and his opponent pray before fighting each other for cash at 2AM in Vegas.

If there is a God powerful enough to create the universe, all theistic religions and the childish petty activities of 'God' found in their holy books like Quran, bible would be an insult to it

sweetcocoa:
You are lucky I've got nothing but love for you, if not eh.......

I forgive you.

Chai thanks baby me **blushing** Amu shying!!!

hahahahahahaha chai... Episode 6 coming soon