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EducationRe: I Am Finished. Bet9ja Virtual Has Ruined My Education,my Life And My Soul. HELP! by johnydon22(m): 9:59am On Jul 08, 2018
Hardlife:
delta state. thanks for your concern. please help me to help myself
EducationRe: I Am Finished. Bet9ja Virtual Has Ruined My Education,my Life And My Soul. HELP! by johnydon22(m): 9:54am On Jul 08, 2018
Hardlife:
Well, i took last jamb, i passed very
well to the joy of everybody. They thought i was back to being
normal but secretly i was still playing
virtual. Virtual has eaten deep in my blood. All the money i managed to save
before the jamb period while at home
still ended up in virtual. I want to stop but i cant. Fast forward everything to today the
7th of july. I took the money for my
post utme form to play virtual. My heartbeat was felt by the person
close to me when i lost the last kobo i
came with. Till now i have not
stopped thinking, nobody knows. now
i am thinking how to get the money
back. I am a dead man alive. Gambling has eaten deep into my
soul. i am finished. I AM TIRED AND FRUSTRATED,
SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME. I
WANT TO STOP. I WANT TO HAVE MY LIFE BACK
TOGETHER. PLEASE HELP ME IF
YOU HAVE HAD SIMILAR
EXPERIENCE. I AM DYING SLOWLY. I NEED
HELP. TODAY I HAVE PUT A
STOP TO IT. GOD HELP ME.
PLEASE
HOW CAN I QUIT FOREVER
Which state are you in my friend?
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists/theists: Is Morality Subjective Or Objective? by johnydon22(op): 9:29am On Jul 08, 2018
dalaman:
Sure, but but many moral actions have to be learned
We agree on that
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists/theists: Is Morality Subjective Or Objective? by johnydon22(op): 8:38am On Jul 08, 2018
urheme:
There are positive morality that are generally termed objective but however acceptability of moral norms is limited to a territorial jurisdiction.
What makes them positive? Subjectivity would have some say it's negative.

There are legislated morality in some jurisdictions which may not be acceptable in another jurisdiction. peoples established customs and traditions made morality a subjective term.
Society then enforces morality. Good. So if there are no societies, nothing can really be said to be bad or good.

Yes?
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists/theists: Is Morality Subjective Or Objective? by johnydon22(op): 8:36am On Jul 08, 2018
dalaman:
False, if nature prescribes morality then morality wouldn't be learned. We won't be teaching our kids the difference between right and wrong if it is something natural like crying or sleeping. We dont teach our kids gow to cry or sleep, because its natural. Parents have to spend a lot of their time teaching their kids about morality because it isn't natural. Morality is a human creation.
Some actions are intuitive.

And morality could also be traced to evolutionary origins
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists/theists: Is Morality Subjective Or Objective? by johnydon22(op): 8:34am On Jul 08, 2018
orisa37:
Nature prescribes Morality. Nature is Subjective. Morality is Objective.
How is nature subjective?
EducationRe: Outstanding Waec Result, What Does It Mean? by johnydon22(m): 9:35pm On Jul 07, 2018
Krystalzkris:
My kid bro got this in waec.. Marketing B3, Geography D7, Civic B3, English B3, Igbo C5, Maths A1, Biology B2, Chemistry Outstanding, Physics B2... He has drowned himself in tears already. Will the outstanding result be released?
I sent you a message on WhatsApp, still using that same number?
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists/theists: Is Morality Subjective Or Objective? by johnydon22(op): 5:58pm On Jul 07, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
From observation and the fact that evidence so far points to this. also the fact that those that advocate for objective morality can't seem to demonstrate it to be true. I think objective morality is a claim that doesn't pass for testability. its like me claiming there's an objective flavour of ice cream. there might very well be but how do I demonstrate it to be true? till I'm able to then it makes sense to say its subjective

It seems I'm attacking objective morality more than I'm defending subjective morality though
I don't see how proponents of objective morality can demonstrate it isn't either.

Anything we think morality is starts from arbitrariness then appear to move gradually away from there
When do we say a moral line have moved away from being non-binding to binding?

And what exactly makes it binding to individuals even ones that do not subscribe to its origin compass?/
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists/theists: Is Morality Subjective Or Objective? by johnydon22(op): 5:56pm On Jul 07, 2018
festwiz:
1. Yes. Like what someone pointed out as regarding gay laws for example.

2. Murder is subjectively wrong. We have security outfits such as the military, police etc that commit murder with 'buts'. If it were to be objectively wrong, then wars won't be fought, criminals won't be killed etc. It may not be the best thing in the world, but there is always a time when it's necessary. Let's look at self defense for example whence you "accidentally" commit murder. It doesn't change the fact that it's murder 'but', this person could've probably killed you and your family and a whole lot more.
So I may kill someone I believe what I'm doing is right and it is right?
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists/theists: Is Morality Subjective Or Objective? by johnydon22(op): 9:59pm On Jul 06, 2018
festwiz:
Mortality is subjective. It can't be objective given the different peoples and their ideologies.
So, something is only wrong depending from which perspective it is judged from?

I feel if morality is objective, it would hinder a lot of progress
Would you say murder is subjectively or objectively wrong?
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists/theists: Is Morality Subjective Or Objective? by johnydon22(op): 9:58pm On Jul 06, 2018
RuthlessLeader:
I think morality is subjective. Morality improves as we gain more knowledge. Once we gain all the knowledge that can ever exist, we can then have an objective morality.
Elucidate?

How does new knowledge help us improve moral outlook?
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists/theists: Is Morality Subjective Or Objective? by johnydon22(op): 9:06pm On Jul 06, 2018
Gggg102:
I think that aspect is left out a lot even though it is very important.


From a realistic point of view, morality is subjective as shown by history.

From an idealistic point of view a subjective morality creates a world where nobody is wrong. What is immoral for you could be moral for me and since morality is subjective, you would not be able to condemn me. Objective morality works in an ideal environment.
Correct. subjectivity in morality makes morality arbitrary. You can't really say anyone is wrong because their sense of being wrong may be different from yours
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists/theists: Is Morality Subjective Or Objective? by johnydon22(op): 9:01pm On Jul 06, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
Morality is subjective, it has always been and would continue to be
Ok

people who argue for objective morality especially the religious ones are just attempting to hijack what morality is. this became necessary for them as religion answered less and less questions than it did in the past, its lost most of its relevancy so they're left with inserting religion into as many things as they can. the problem I have with religious people who advocate for objective morality is that they CAN'T demonstrate how they came to that conclusion without being fallacious, facetious, making logic jumps and guesses along the way
Why do you think morality is subjective?

Observation alone shows morality is subjective although I learnt Dalaman thinks morality is objective, I would like to hear his argument and perhaps change my mind or his
Doesn't subjectivity make morality arbitrary?
SportsRe: Brazil Vs Belgium: World Cup (1 - 2) On 6th July 2018 by johnydon22(m): 7:29pm On Jul 06, 2018
ominilongest:
Shey na curse dey follow dz coach ni..why u go bench casemiro for dz kind match...Belgium used fellani and witsel dem go start to dey ride those mumu wey dey mildfield..smh undecided..
Casemiro was not benched. He has two yellow cards na. So he's serving a 1 game suspension ogbeni undecided
SportsRe: Brazil Vs Belgium: World Cup (1 - 2) On 6th July 2018 by johnydon22(m): 7:23pm On Jul 06, 2018
fecta:
I BET MY LEFT TESTES THAT BRAZIL WILL WIN
One does not simply bet his balls on a football game. Either he is a man of extreme courage or he is a man of extreme madness
SportsRe: Brazil Vs Belgium: World Cup (1 - 2) On 6th July 2018 by johnydon22(m): 7:15pm On Jul 06, 2018
Bobbybabs:
Streaming link please.
Oga goan and buy GOTV..

Goalllll... Belgium scores. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Theist: Is Everything God's Will Or Is There Freewill? by johnydon22(op): 6:58pm On Jul 06, 2018
Gggg102:
That's the explanation I got.

God made a plan, but does not choose who follows the plan.
Anyone who chooses to follow the plan arrives at the end God destined with the plan.
In otherwords; God gave man freewill.
Christianity EtcAtheists/theists: Is Morality Subjective Or Objective? by johnydon22(op): 6:56pm On Jul 06, 2018
The topic of morality is one that is never going away any time soon. it has lingered on within philosophical musing from the ancient times and today, the word morality is becoming increasingly difficult to define.

There are growing trends and advancements that redefine the application of human morality (At least in terms of acceptability)

Take for instance, there was a time homosexuality was regarded as immoral but today it is not.

This thread is meant for a good discussion on the nature of morality, what is the essence of moral values, why something is moral or not, whether morality is binding or not, is God important for morality to be?

And whether morality is an objective or subjective value?

So what do you think and why?

let us argue and disagree calmly or fiercely but without personal insults or banters
Christianity EtcRe: Theist: Is Everything God's Will Or Is There Freewill? by johnydon22(op): 6:49pm On Jul 06, 2018
Gggg102:
He could be omnipotent and choose not to act.
Correct and this implies freewill
Christianity EtcRe: Theist: Is Everything God's Will Or Is There Freewill? by johnydon22(op): 6:48pm On Jul 06, 2018
Gggg102:
I heard an explanation for this that made sense.
the person said the only part that is God's will is the part that is related to salvation/spirituality. God only destined salvation plans. every other aspect is freewill.
like you made a plan, and every other thing outside the plan is not under your control.

let's say you open a school. you will lay down plans on how the school would be run, the curriculum, the overall school master plan and the rest. you don't destine if students drop out or pull through. you only have your master plan, you don't destine who follows the plan and who doesn't.
I think there is an overlap of the word plan.

When we use the terms God's will or freewill, we are referencing the subject of human life.

That is, does human life go according to God's will/plan/predestination or man is free to make a choice?

From the bolded, that explanation is hinting on freewill.
Christianity EtcRe: Theist: Is Everything God's Will Or Is There Freewill? by johnydon22(op): 4:04pm On Jul 06, 2018
dorox:
Free will it is for me.
why do you think so?
Christianity EtcRe: Faith - Fear And Ignorance Through Hope by johnydon22(m): 10:28am On Jul 06, 2018
SOL just kill me. Let me just be here and wait for prayer warriors to enter
RomanceRe: 'Women Should Stop Getting Married' - Married Lady Advises Single Ladies by johnydon22(m): 10:57pm On Jul 04, 2018
amethystnnty1:
Marriage was never about men. A cost benefit analysis would show on most cases that it is to the disadvantage of man.
But guess who complains about it? grin
Christianity EtcRe: Questioning The Implausibilities 4 (myth Or Truth) by johnydon22(op): 10:50pm On Jul 04, 2018
bloodofthelamb:
I ok sir, keep on hoping.
I knew it'd eventually fall to this
RomanceRe: 'Women Should Stop Getting Married' - Married Lady Advises Single Ladies by johnydon22(m): 10:49pm On Jul 04, 2018
CAPSLOCKED:

I JUST HAVE TO AGREE WITH THIS POST.

WOMEN ARE WOMEN'S GREATEST ENEMIES.
And as a matter of objectivity, marriage is far more beneficial to women than it is to men. (This is statistically backed with peered reviewed information and studies)

And marriage is far more disadvantageous to men than it is to women.

The problem is: Men don't often complain about things, Women on the other hand often complain about everything
Christianity EtcRe: The Mind Of An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 10:43pm On Jul 04, 2018
hilario8898:
Steve: Hey Ben, you see am what you call an atheist, so I don't believe in God.

Ben: Well Steve, sorry to disappoint, but you actually believe in God. You just don't think he likes you.

Steve: Oh really...

Ben: Ponder on that for a little while.

Steve: Well, think what you must, my thoughts are mine & mine alone
Uuuhmhuh
Christianity EtcRe: The Mind Of An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 10:42pm On Jul 04, 2018
sonofthunder:
Has atheism ever been beneficial to humanity? what does 'it' have to offer?
You are missing the point hugely
Christianity EtcRe: Questioning The Implausibilities 4 (myth Or Truth) by johnydon22(op): 10:40pm On Jul 04, 2018
bloodofthelamb:
Hope is the backbone of faith. Without hope, faith is dead. They go together, for faith is the substance of things hoped for.(Heb 11:1).
Faith being centered on Hope does not make them the same. Like I said, hope and faith are not necessarily the same.

I'm sure that is easy to understand
Christianity EtcRe: Questioning The Implausibilities 4 (myth Or Truth) by johnydon22(op): 7:03pm On Jul 04, 2018
bloodofthelamb:
Johnydon22, let me diverge a little bit from the premise of your post.

Do you know if you will see tomorrow being the 5th of July 2018? If you know, where is your prove? If there is no prove, don't you think you are living on faith all this while and you did not realise it?
I'd like to believe that I understand the fundamental premise of this question.

Knowledge of tomorrow is an uncertainty, it falls under the purview of probabilities. And when every necessary variable is accounted for we can quantify our likelihood to either see or not see the next day.

The exercision represented here is more correctly hope than it is faith.

Moreover, there are many instances where we exercise faith but we fully understand that our faith have no weight on reality. Its more or less a conviction hinged on wish.

So this is the premise: Faith inserted to represent reality is wrongly applied

Pls, correct me if I am wrong.

Note: I am not wishing you harm.
Hope and faith are not entirely the same. Be the judge .

Note: it was a great question brother
Christianity EtcRe: Questioning The Implausibilities 4 (myth Or Truth) by johnydon22(op): 5:41pm On Jul 04, 2018
Deprofessional:
If youn doubt some things in the bible, it is tantamount to saying you doubt the existence of God.
This is not in anyway true.


I will tell you what I have seen in life to make me believe in an almighty creator.
.
That'd be interesting
Christianity EtcRe: Nicole Cliffe: How God Messed Up My Happy Atheist Life. Must Read For All! by johnydon22(m): 5:40pm On Jul 04, 2018
Lol. This is nice
Christianity EtcRe: Questioning The Implausibilities 4 (myth Or Truth) by johnydon22(op): 4:34pm On Jul 04, 2018
CAPSLOCKED:

SHE'S GOING TO THINK FOR AS MUCH AS 300 YEARS AND COME UP WITH "I FEEL HIM IN MY HEART. GO CLOSER TO HIM BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. DON'T ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE USED BY DEVIL. HELL IS REAL ".
IT'S A USUAL THING.
Well, i'm pretty sure some of us had come up with such defenses to quench the doubt burning through us at certain points in our lives.

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