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Christianity EtcRe: Theists: Objective Morality, Why Is Something Good? by johnydon22(op): 1:36pm On Jul 12, 2018
vaxx:
Something is good because it is good .lol. That is not a satisfactory answer i guess . In anthropocentric affairs, Religion, culture, ethics, logic, common sense and personal judgement all play part and distribute itself implicitly in such a way that views are formed, individually as well as collectively. Medical point of view provides another clue to a thing that may be good as well
"Something is good because it is good"

Does this mean 'goodness' transcends the determination of God?

God does things because they are good and not because everything God does is good?

If God does the contrary, would that be termed bad?

What makes good good?
Christianity EtcRe: Theists: Objective Morality, Why Is Something Good? by johnydon22(op): 1:33pm On Jul 12, 2018
Butterflyleo:
Sorry but I am not paranoid. Far from it. I am smarter now and my brethren will be too as they follow suite.

Wisdom is profitable to direct. Thank you for the care but dont worry, Gods got me.

And oh for your guys who might be thinking I broke my own rule, I didn't. I just chose to warn my brethren.

Thanks.
OK you will be fine las las shaa
Christianity EtcRe: How To Prove To Me That Your God Exists. Can You Convince Me? by johnydon22(m): 1:05pm On Jul 12, 2018
VivaLaFrans:
Wikipedia states that Idolatry literally means the worship of an "idol", also known as a cult image, in the form of a physical image, such as a statue or icon. In Abrahamic religions, namely Christianity, Islam and Judaism, idolatry connotes the worship of something or someone other than God as if it were God.

The Truth is JESUS...
1. Is idol worship bad?

2. Is the worship of a different concept of God same as idol worship?

3. How is Jesus the truth? What is the essence of the truth Jesus represents?

4. How do we verify this truth?
Christianity EtcRe: Theists: Objective Morality, Why Is Something Good? by johnydon22(op): 1:00pm On Jul 12, 2018
Paranoia. Lol. Butterflyleo I hope you will be fine at the end though
Christianity EtcTheists: Objective Morality, Why Is Something Good? by johnydon22(op): 12:31pm On Jul 12, 2018
Is something good because God commands it or does God command it because it is good?



This question is meant to insight deep thought and debate
Christianity EtcRe: How To Prove To Me That Your God Exists. Can You Convince Me? by johnydon22(m): 12:29pm On Jul 12, 2018
Paulscholari:
Repent or burn in hell, simple!
Lol abi
Christianity EtcRe: How To Prove To Me That Your God Exists. Can You Convince Me? by johnydon22(m): 9:57am On Jul 12, 2018
smart6:
No man can prove to another the existence of God. Every man encounters God in diverse ways. I just pray U encounter Him in a special way someday.
This is a grossly nonsensical argument to make in validation of a supposedly objective subject
Christianity EtcRe: How To Prove To Me That Your God Exists. Can You Convince Me? by johnydon22(m): 9:56am On Jul 12, 2018
VivaLaFrans:
I agree. But the truth can never be hidden.... So many of those idol worshippers had found the truth and are still finding it today....
1. What's idol worshipping?

2. Is it bad?

3. What truth?
Christianity EtcRe: Challenge Me To A Live TV Debate by johnydon22(m): 9:34pm On Jul 10, 2018
Mariangeles:
We don't need to prove or challenge anything!
Choose whatever path you have chosen and mind your business.
Keep on searching for what's right in front of you...
there is nothing wrong with a debate
Christianity EtcRe: Challenge Me To A Live TV Debate by johnydon22(m): 9:33pm On Jul 10, 2018
EweduAfonja:
Only fools say there is No God...

When he gives me the 50million naira i am asking, i with Quote u so that u know God really exists...


I will challenge u with a million naira bet
You got issues.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, What Would You Do? Let's Be Sincere. by johnydon22(m): 11:08pm On Jul 08, 2018
Martinez19:
grin grin grin so you won't give the owner? Na to start balling in Enugu be the way forward? grin
You know it.

Which owner?

As owu dey blow me reach? Nonsense and ingredients angry
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, What Would You Do? Let's Be Sincere. by johnydon22(m): 10:32pm On Jul 08, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
In a perfect world I'd definitely send it back, inafct the mistake of sending money to your account couldn't have happened in that world

But in this imperfect world, What I'd do is return it to the rightful owner but I'd make sure its the rightful owner I'm returning it to not a criminal who would take advantage of it like if you return found money to the Nigeria police you're just making who you handed over the money to rich as he's not the rightful owner and all they'll tell you is that they would return the money to whoever reports missing money but that's the end of it

For such a big amount of money like you stated its too big for you to even run away with as its close to $2M which means you can be rest assured it would be rectified unless it was intentionally put there by a generous person who just wanted to dish you such an amount and you can always trace such to the sender if you so desire

I'd wait for a few days to see if bank would contact me or rectify it. if they don't I'd presume someone really just sent me the money, although I'd consult my lawyer to find out the legality of my possessing the money to avoid legal troubles and if I'm in the clear its mine


Note that what you think you'd do when imagining such scenario and what you'd do if such scenario comes up might actually differ from each other
Hapu all this long talk. His question was based on the assumption that you can hold the money if you wish easily. Forget ihe it can be rectified
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists, What Would You Do? Let's Be Sincere. by johnydon22(m): 10:30pm On Jul 08, 2018
Martinez19:
Given the following:
1) you suddenly saw #547,000,000 in your bank account.
2) you can take the money secretly, no one will found, the money would be yours forever and there won't be any consequences.

Would you take the #547m or will you give it back to the rightful owner?
I'm taking it.

Why?
Christianity EtcRe: Prayers & Meditation: Big Advantage Religious Folks Have Over Atheists by johnydon22(m): 8:12pm On Jul 08, 2018
hakeem4:
Hardmirror what a lovely article. I just want drop my own opinion about prayer. People who pray are actually suffering from Stockholm syndrome but they’re are not aware. Prayers do not actually work, but it makes the individual feel better.
Stockholm syndrome? How so?
Christianity EtcRe: Prayers & Meditation: Big Advantage Religious Folks Have Over Atheists by johnydon22(m): 7:45pm On Jul 08, 2018
What exactly stops an atheist from meditating?
Christianity EtcRe: How Do I Correct An Atheist Brother? by johnydon22(m): 6:34pm On Jul 08, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
I wouldn't care if not that many coworkers assign Vic's behaviour to his atheism. This makes it bad for other atheists like me who are still in the closet at work.

if this is exactly why you're concerned then you really need to just ignore and keep on with your own work

I assume you're in Nigeria and the workplace is situated there. religious people see atheists as strange, they don't know what atheism is so they tend to connect bad things to atheism. If an atheist faces certain problems they'd connect the problem to his atheism even though there are lots of religious facing same or worse problems around them. if he's poor its because he doesn't believe in any god, if he's sick its because he doesn't believe in any god, if he's having marital issues its because the marriage wasn't build on god foundation, if he's fired from work its because he doesn't have a god to fight for him etc. they ignore the fact that whatever issues such atheists have aren't unique to atheism but it feels more convenient to blame atheism and really disturbing to see those are normal human challenges religious people also face

This extends to why they think atheism is responsible for the way the open atheist in your workplace behaves even though there might actually be a religious person in your work who's worse than him or at least you can think up someone in another company who's also as arrogant, is a womaniser, talks to people anyhow but is actually religious smiley

With the understanding of why they think this way, if you feel you can't ignore their conclusion I advice you don't need to confront him but work on the thinking of those concluding atheism is responsible. explain to them that it has nothing to do with his atheism and that's just his own behaviour. explain that there's no creed or doctrine that says an atheist should fork any female in skirts or be rude and disrespectful to others just like there's no creed that states the Christian womanizers and rude Christians are to act the way they do. Tell them about atheists you know that don't behave this way but be careful not to expose your atheism in the process or make them suspect you if you're not ready to come out as one.

I believe with time the sensible ones amongst them would see sense in what you're saying and sense can be contagious

My 800 kobo
this is it OP
Christianity EtcRe: How Do I Correct An Atheist Brother? by johnydon22(m): 6:31pm On Jul 08, 2018
felixomor:
Insultive and arrogance..... grin

Abeg leave him
He is only exhibting his true nature.
The atheist real nature.

Just allow him to climb higher,
You will even see worse.
LOL
Christianity EtcRe: "Why I Stopped Believing In God" Ex Presbyterian Pastor Michal Pleban by johnydon22(m): 3:29pm On Jul 08, 2018
darkchild64:
Well I don't quite agree with you,it is true that posting such stories may not really describe what the situation looks like regarding people converting from one side to the other,but then if someone really experience this and told or wrote down the story,his intention is that people would read it,now what you make of it after reading it us your business,but I don't see any thing wrong with one sharing his experiences with others,the only problem is when a lunatic forges stories to reassure himself and others that his religion is attracting massive converts
Ok
Christianity EtcRe: "Why I Stopped Believing In God" Ex Presbyterian Pastor Michal Pleban by johnydon22(m): 1:37pm On Jul 08, 2018
NPComplete:
I actually agree with this. I consider such posts to be overly puerile. Then again considering that a certain someone has spent the better part of last week sharing stories about people converting to Christianity, I think this thread is also a good counter to remind everyone that the universe will maintain its balance one way or another. That is why u can tell that the guy is visibly unhappy with the thread.

If nothing, this thread serves to remind neutral parties of the meaninglessness of all the conversion threads we have been seeing.
If you are referring to butterflylion he is in fact following an observed pattern.

Once someone gets tired of the incessant arguments and all, they often resort to posting such stories. he is not the first to go through that road right on this board.

so when i noticed that since last week, i wasn't surprised, i knew it was a matter of time and that too would phase out. An atheist becoming a christian or a christian becoming an atheist, how exactly is that anyone's business?

it is a last gasp to simulate any semblance of a fight.

But such silly threads influencing counter threads of such nature is just nonsensical.

If someone as an atheist has a problem or feels bad when he reads an atheist becomes a christian then such a person has serious issues he/she needs to sort out.


People become Christians all the time, and with the way the atheist movement is growing all over the world it is safe to say more people become atheists than they become christians (this is not necessarily good or bad)

but posting 1 story out of millions is meant to do what exactly?

it is a straight show of madness
Christianity EtcRe: Will I Go 2 Hell Because I Dont Go To Church Again? by johnydon22(m): 12:42pm On Jul 08, 2018
OkpaAkuEriEri:
Okay.
But DAT is hw I understand d doctrine.
I don't no hw u explain confession
See the problem? Doctrines are not matter of individual understanding.
Christianity EtcRe: Will I Go 2 Hell Because I Dont Go To Church Again? by johnydon22(m): 12:14pm On Jul 08, 2018
OkpaAkuEriEri:
Is like u r not a Catholic.
I was an alter boy for at least 8 years.

Went to the seminary.

Have been instructed in basic Catholic canons, theological and doctrinal matters.

I probably know much more than you will ever know about the church.

Dat is wat we r thought in the church.
I'm pretty sure this is not correct.

Its is either you misunderstood or misinterpreted your lessons or your instructors was mistaken.
Christianity EtcRe: Will I Go 2 Hell Because I Dont Go To Church Again? by johnydon22(m): 11:39am On Jul 08, 2018
OkpaAkuEriEri:
Okay I will try.
Tanks for dis advice.
But it is because we must sin dat we have Confession.
So dt d sin u have already sinned will be pardoned.


N it dont heap up
It still doesn't work with willfully indulgence into contemplated avoidable sins.

I know stealing this bicycle is a sin, ok let me steal it first then ask go to confession later.

You are not even trying.
Christianity EtcRe: Will I Go 2 Hell Because I Dont Go To Church Again? by johnydon22(m): 11:33am On Jul 08, 2018
OkpaAkuEriEri:
We r all sinners.am not perfect
Agreed.

Yes I am guilty of lust n fornication.Yes I serve mass.Yes I tk communion.[
But body is not wood n if I sin I ask God for forgiveness immediately.
The point is to try as much as possible to not do it, to be better.

And dat is y I dnt miss confession.
So dat my sins will all b forgiven
I'm not sure as a matter of theological or doctrinal concept, confession works this way.

Confession is not meant to be an excuse for indifference or nonchalancy towards avoidable sins.
Christianity EtcRe: Will I Go 2 Hell Because I Dont Go To Church Again? by johnydon22(m): 11:30am On Jul 08, 2018
OkpaAkuEriEri:
fallacy of faulse analogy.

You must not go 2 church to go to heaven.
Wat of pple in hospital, prisoners,
Wat matters is DAT u obey God commandment
LOL it's not fallacy of false analogy
Christianity EtcRe: Will I Go 2 Hell Because I Dont Go To Church Again? by johnydon22(m): 11:25am On Jul 08, 2018
OkpaAkuEriEri:
Yes.
I said I want to fork bobrisky because he luk lyk a girl in DAT picture. I just say it.
I am not a homo.
If u dont luk at d picture well u will think is a girl, dats y I said it
You a mass server, but you don't know that lust is also a sin of thought?

How do you serve and receive communion with such sin hanging on your mind?
Christianity EtcRe: Will I Go 2 Hell Because I Dont Go To Church Again? by johnydon22(m): 11:23am On Jul 08, 2018
OkpaAkuEriEri:
My reverend fada ws harsh by condemin me wtout askin y d change.

So I will not enta heaven because I didn't go to church.
That is a fallacy
Fallacy of what exactly?
EducationRe: I Am Finished. Bet9ja Virtual Has Ruined My Education,my Life And My Soul. HELP! by johnydon22(m): 10:22am On Jul 08, 2018
Hardlife:
thank you sir. But i will be travelling to boji boji within the week just in case. Close to asaba. Before this happened again yesterday. I had post utme to prepare for. If you are willing, i can drop my number. I need all the help available. Thank you sir.
email your number to me.
EducationRe: I Am Finished. Bet9ja Virtual Has Ruined My Education,my Life And My Soul. HELP! by johnydon22(m): 10:07am On Jul 08, 2018
Hardlife:
yes sir.
I'm coming to Asaba next week Thursday probably. I'll like to meet you
Christianity EtcRe: "Why I Stopped Believing In God" Ex Presbyterian Pastor Michal Pleban by johnydon22(m): 10:06am On Jul 08, 2018
All these Atheist to Christian, Christian to atheist personal stories you lot copy online are incredibly stupi_d.

Millions become atheists and vise versa.

What's the need of highlighting these stories here? I happen to think it's nonsensical
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists/theists: Is Morality Subjective Or Objective? by johnydon22(op): 10:00am On Jul 08, 2018
orisa37:
God is I AM THAT I AM-SUBJECT-NATURE-MOTHER-FATHER-CREATOR-SUBJECTIVE-AL MIGHTY-RIGHTEOUSNESS.


Satan is ME MYSELF-ALL BLOODY-CREATED-OBJECT-OBJECTIVITY-CHATTELS-FIXTURES-SELFISHNESS.


SUBJECTIVITY CREATES, PRESCRIBES, VALUES OR WANTS, DEMANDS OBJECTIVITY.

This is Preaching not teaching English Language.
.

I have answered this question this morning. Please check the system.
Ok. Sorry I even asked
EducationRe: I Am Finished. Bet9ja Virtual Has Ruined My Education,my Life And My Soul. HELP! by johnydon22(m): 9:59am On Jul 08, 2018
Hardlife:
delta state. thanks for your concern. please help me to help myself
Are you in Asaba?

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