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Advise still needed

Can we get 1000 Sqm at Ogudu Phase 2

Lol

femianski:
Your obsession with Messi ehn

I didn't mention Pessi my brother

No player deserves the world cup other than Cristiano Ronaldo.

Some had their chances, but the world cup passed them by

Cristiano Ronaldo is Juventus' top scorer of the last decade despite the fact that he joined the club in 2018.

No player deserves the world cup other than Cristiano Ronaldo.

Some had their chances, but the world cup passed them by

Cristiano Ronaldo is Juventus' top scorer of the last decade despite the fact that he joined the club in 2018.

Cristiano Ronaldo is Juventus' top scorer of the last decade despite the fact that he joined the club in 2018.

No player deserves the world cup other than Cristiano Ronaldo.

Some had their chance, and the world cup passed them

Wow.

Idiots

Nor surprised.

80% of LASTMA standing at the bus stop na secondary school holders and dropouts by man know man...

Those in the office na dem be grads

Lol

Gospel2Day:
So, believers who died before the Great Tribulation are lucky why those who are alive ain't lucky abi?
Mention one instance when God brought judgment on the world that the righteous partook of it. Did Noah experience the Great Tribulation of the Flood?
Did Lot remain in Sodom during the Rain of Fire?
One thing is common in both cases, and that is the fact that God evacuated the righteous before unleashing judgment on sinners.
Does God not protect the Revelation 12 woman and her Male Child from the Dragon?
Your Post-Trib Great Tribulation is alien to the Principle of Divine Operation from Genesis to Revelation.

My brother.... I think you don't remember in the Great Tribulation, there will be Satan wrath and God's wrath.

Satan wrath is the Antichrist persecution of the saints. Many believers will be killed and scattered, but will overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony.

Gods wrath is the trumpet judgements on the antichrist, the people who collected the mark of the Beast and his followers. Christians will be saved when God starts pouring his own punishment on the Devil, the antichrist and his people.

For those who died before the revelation of the antichrist, but are Christians... they are resting, waiting for the LORD to call them forth at the Rapture...

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Knowing that it is at the Rapture, that the Dead in Christ will rise first (Resurrection), see what the bible said about Resurrection ....

Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


You can agree with me that the Resurrection of the saints happens at the Rapture?

Gospel2Day:
Answer my question.
Why should we watch for something we know the exact time it will end, since we know when it starts?
From the Abomination that causes Desolation, which is when the Antichrist sits in the Temple calling himself God, till the Return of Jesus is EXACTLY THREE AND A HALF YEARS.
So, what is the need to watch again?

Watch and pray so that you won't fall into temptation.

The generation of Noah, knew about the ark, yet people missed it.

The angel of God also issued warnings to people not to take the mark, but some people will still take the mark, willingly, by deception or by force...

The reason to watch and pray is for someone to always be vigilant, even the disciples were sleeping while Christ prayed. Jesus warned;

Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.........
24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Gospel2Day:
Only Pre-Trib Rapture makes Scriptures to make sense.
Why would anyone be told to be watchful because the coming of the Lord will happen suddenly, when everyone is undergoing Great Tribulation and know the exact time it will start and end?

Lol...

Hope you know the Antichrist and False prophet are coming for deception first??

Or you think the Tribulation will start immediately, the Antichrist surfaces?

Why do you think Christians will be persecuted terribly by the Antichrist and his agents, and then the mark enforcement?

Gospel2Day:
Let me advise you on the way out of your confusing and mixing things up.
Starting from the book of Romans to Hebrews, carefully sit down and study the teachings of Paul on the Doctrine of Last Things as they particularly relate to the church.
After doing that, let's resume our Eschatological Discourse.
Thanks.
Shalom.

Church are the believers... my brother... nothing like pre tribulation rapture.... even St Paul attested to this!!

Gospel2Day:
The saintly Jews and those Left behind who missed the Rapture, but refused to take the mark of the Beast.

How can a Saint be left behind?? No saint will be left behind my brother.

Anyone who misses the rapture, has lost it forever... " When the bridegroom cometh, those that were ready went in with him and the door was shut... Read Matthew 25...

And also when they came knocking, what did the master say, "I know you not, Go away".

Only the blood of Jesus can save. Man's blood cannot cleanse sin...

Why is this happening?

It has happened twice.

A real estate group I joined, one person just opened the group from no where and added about 400 persons, and started saying trash on why we need to support tinubu

A research WhatsApp group, I am on too, the same thing happened until many left the group with deviance.

After collecting egunje, you'd want us to support a prospective failure?

Obi is a respectful Man...

God bless the incoming president....

Gospel2Day:
Did you notice that Israel as a nation was not mention in Revelation 6?

Revelation 6 is talking about the seals opened by Jesus which is talking about the beginning of the antichrist down to the rapture.

Please read Sir.

Also when the angel was warning about the mark, did the angel mention about Israel or gentiles, or was referring to all mankind?

Gospel2Day:
The Jews are the last to be persecuted by the Antichrist, which completes the Last Week of Daniel's 7 Weeks.
Gentiles would have been compelled to take the mark of the Beast before this time.

Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

1. Who are these saints the antichrist is to overcome?

2. Who are those that would not worship the antichrist, those whose names are written in the lamb's book... ?

Gospel2Day:
You picked only the Last Trumpet as your criterion for Rapture and Return of Jesus. Go and read the book of Revelation very well, you will find out that many trumpets still were blown after the rapture of the saints.
Now, why not try to use The Place of Meeting as another Criterion, and let's see if your Last Trump Theory will hold water.
The two angels in Acts Chapter 1 told the disciples, who were Jews where Jesus will meet them, ON MOUNT OLIVET. Also in Zechariah 14 : 1 - 7.
Apostle Paul in 1 Thessalonians 4 : 15 - 17 told Gentile Christians where Jesus will meet them, IN THE CLOUDS.

Study Revelation 6, to understand the timeline of events..

Gospel2Day:
The Time of Jacob's Trouble refers to the Persecution of the Jews by the Antichrist.
It does not involve the Gentiles or the church.
Your error stems from mingling and mixing the Jewish Nation with the Church.
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.
Shalom.

So is it only the Jews that would be persecuted by the Antichrist then?

OkCornel:
I just tire my brother. Going by their flawed doctrine, the 12 apostles would not be raptured since they are Jews and form part of the “Jewish bride”

I just wonder how some people study scriptures.

Lol.... na wa bro

Leon90:
That's not for the Gentile Bride. She would be gone in the rapture before that time. It's for the Jews alone. The last part of Daniel's 70 weeks (3years and 6 months)

Lol...Gentile Bride ... let's keep deceiving ourselves please....

It's a aahame that some Christians are still blind

Is this the Dajal's one system religion?

Photoshop @ the 2nd pox.

Lol....

The only thing Tinubats can use against Obi is Tribalism... nothing more

But unfortunately for them, tribalism works no more