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Ken4Christ:
The first coming is for the rapture of the faithful saints. In this coming, he will not be seen by all and he will not land on the earth.

The faithful saints will be caught up to meet him in the air - 1st Thessalonians 4:13-16.

The second one which will normally referred to as the second coming of Christ will happen after the revelation of the anti Christ.

In this event, he will come visibly and he will land on the earth at the end of seven years tribulation period which the Jews will go through. However, a selected few; 144,000 Jews will be raptured. These are the elect he spoke about in Matthew 24.

When he comes, he will fight with the anti Christ and defeat him after which he will establish his millennium reign on earth.

Where in the bible is it written that Jesus will not be seen by all??

Because everywhere in the bible says when he comes, all eyes shall see him

Some people na Ronaldo mistake dem go dey spot today rather than watch ball....

MrDebonair:
You need to go and read your Bible again. Find out those that were sealed. 144,000.
You mean to say the dead in Christ who will rise first and those of us still alive will be caught up in the cloud to meet Jesus will go through the tribulation/ great tribulation?
Post tribulation rapture doctrine is for those who don't understand the Bible passages and connect the dots.

As per the bolded.

That is the FIRST resurrection. (The dead in Christ will rise up first)... the Mystery is.... (those still alive will be caught up, otherwise known as rapture).

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


There are two resurrection. Any person whom misses the first, is likely a candidate of destruction in the lake of fire (2nd resurrection into the white throne judgement)

LeoDeKing:
This op just side down jeje and decided to invoke the wrath of ipob pigs on his head.

Is the op aware anything concerning pandora crook should be praised even if he drinks water by himself?

Stop beating around the Bush trying to divert the topic...

Face the topic content; and show us Lagos debt profile after BAT....

The head teacher said the right thing... if you want respect, respect yourself

MrDebonair:
I understand you clearly. Rapture of the church is before tribulation. Being "caught up" in the air...Greek/ Hebrew translation is rapture from "Harpazo". Latin ....Rapturo. That's where rapture word is being coined from.
1 thessalonians 4
Matthew 24.
Mark 13.
Luke 21.
Explains it all in details.

Pre-tribulation ................Tribulation...........Great Tribulation..........Post tribulation.
Rapture...............................1260 days .............1260 days ..................Jesus second coming(1000 yrs reign)
Meet Jesus in the cloud...<<<<<<<<<<< 7 years>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus touch down at Mount Olive

The church will not partake in the wrath of God during tribulation/ great tribulation.

Rapture and Jesus second coming are two different events and not to be confused.

If you are saying rapture is after great tribulation then what you are saying is that the bridegroom attacks his bride, inflicts terror on her and then comes back to take her to dinner afterwards.

Just saying.

Pre tribulation rapture is a wrong doctrine.

After the Bridegroom came, the ready Virgins entered with him, and thr door was shut. No chance for repentance or being wise again.

Remember only the blood of Jesus can save. MAN'S BLOOD CANNOT SAVE MAN.

Why do you think the Angels specifically warned??

"Anyone who receives the mark of the beast"

Believers will face the antichrist, but will not go through God's wrath and judgement on the antichrist and those who receive the mark!

If Jesus and the apostles of Old passed through persecution, who the hell do new generations Christians that can't even stand for God think they are , that they will just escape without standing for Jesus Christ through Persecution?

Ken4Christ:
There are two comings of the Lord. The first is during the rapture when he comes to take faithful saints home. The second is when he comes to fight the anti Christ and establish his Millennium Reign on earth.

The rapture can take place any moment from now. We are living in borrowed time.

But his second coming will take place after the events you wrote about.

Where in the Bible is two comings mentioned?? Because according to Angels, Apostles and the Lord Jesus himself, he's coming back just once! I.e the second coming.

So where are two comings from?

Imagine some people adoring tapins

blackpanda:
Apologizing for what ASUU chose to strike despite govt giving them 80% of what they asked. But u guys are so obsessed with blaming govt for everything under the sun

You did same under Jonathan, have you forgotten?

Reallife17:
na only UEFA them take Dey rate club?

We cannot use riches to rate club

Reallife17:
Bigger than man city in terms of what? That time wen dem reign never pass?

Mention any man City European trophy

City wey no get legend

Barca fans just run go city

So because City dey play now, we go call them big club??

Even Porto is bigger than City according to UEFA

Tisevadon:
All English teams are over rated aside Man City.

It used to be average teams dragging the trophies before the emergence of Pep's City

No Sir.... Fergie already made it a farmer league ... just check the records...

Popesuccess:
So Aston villa that has won is a big club now?

Aston villa is bigger than Man City.

There was a time the club was reigning

Mavrick2012:
Where are all these little spurs and wolves when pep turn EPL to farmers league?

Argue, leave insult.
I don't know how to do insult.

The team that beat man u at home last Thursday plays where?

You are calling small wolves when ur big teams are struggling against small teams of laliga

Bro... many failed to understand that EPL has always been a farmers league eveb before Pep... didn't Fergie colonise the league??

No difference in epl, laliga or even league 1

Popesuccess:
So Aston villa that has won is a big club now?

According to UEFA....

osazsky:
common leipiz way city dey knack 5 for ucl anytime they meet..u guys steuggled against leipiz...this real team cant beat byern or dortmond which are the 2 strongest teams in germany

Real wey defeat your city and psg together... this guy (you better use your paulolee monicker)

osazsky:
u know nothing oga..go and sit down..can u say northimham and aston villa are richa than city cuz they both won the ucl in d past...sometimes ehn..some of una need flogging..how can u compare the epl with laliga that dont have sponspor..the clubs that finished in 20th position in the epl gets more prize money than the club that wins laliga or seria A..google is ur friend

You like typing trash.... I didn't speak about riches... I'm talking about prestige.... even as man City, PSG etc get money, Madrid, Milan, Man utd, Bayern, Barca, Ajax will always have bigger prestige ....

Also, EPL=LALIGA=SERIEA=BUNDESLIGA.

Money is not everything in football....

osazsky:
riches is diff form glory..the champions leagues..is worth 20m...u will need to win 6 ucl to match 1 epl in prize money..u will need to win 100000 ucl to March sheck mansour wealth which is pegged at 40m dollars no need to mention the reuben brothers that acquired newcastle and psg ownes...northimham forset has won the ucl twice but its a poor club..same with

Rich, is not the same as big

UCL >>>> EPL

EPL= LALIGA=SERIEA

Seville is a useless club

Chelshit

osazsky:
which one is match fixing..how much u wan give psg or city to sell a match..these 2 teams are richer than africa...if person wan sell match na small small poor clubs like man u ,asenal ,,spurs and juve they run am..not psg..not city..not madrid..person they big pass something na..bros take am easy..psg will still win that isteali unknown club

What makes City a big club?? Dem Don win champions league?

Where's Pessi?

End time Dam

Yes...

No where for armed robbers and yahoo boys and prostitutes to strive

Athletico Don open legs....

Una Don finally capitulate

As usual... we are not surprised

Only a wicked man or woman will want to vote Muslim Muslim ticket