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mystical109:
my problem with him is that, he said Messi has not won the champions league since Neymar left and because of that Messi can't win singlehandedly while Ronaldo has won singlehandedly. If he is talking about being a protagonist in the title winning team then messi won all his champions league singlehandedly except 2006

Lol... He's joking... No one can deny the essence of Messi

eni4real:
That is the same reason why Modric won the Ballon d'or, FIFA best player award, UEFA best player award, IFHSS best player award and Goal 50 award ahead of Cristiano in 2018!!!

Even Cristiano understands the power of World cup golden ball that year!!!

So why didn't Forlan or Messi win FIFA best in the years they won WC golden ball??

mystical109:
Everything should be included. I believe Messi is in top 10 of 1:most trophies won, 2:Most goals scored, 3:Best player, 4:most assists, 5:most awards, 6:Most consistent, 7:best dribblers. No player dead or alive can tick all the boxes. You can mention

Lol... You believe Messi is in top 10... This should have been your argument... Not calling him the number 1...

Now I will give you players that can tick all the boxes

Pele
Cristiano
Alfredo Di stephano
Ronaldo delima
Maradona

eni4real:
Cruyff is still laughing... When Cristiano win the World cup golden ball, then we can talk

Lol... So it's by World Cup golden ball now??

eni4real:
Hope you know that Vidic>>Vinie Jones??

Being senseless on tackle shows how technically deficient you are..

Those defenders will never be as good!!

Can you tell us any defender of fhis present era better than these names

Franco Baresi
Bobby Moore
Pasarella
Beckenbauer

Fladm:
So dembele didn't win world cup?

Is dembele in contention for GOAT status??

eni4real:
Pele was a
Low budget Mbappe in 58 World cup(Didi won the World cup best player award)
Low budget Dembele in 62 World cuo(Garrincha won the World cup best player award)
Low budget Klose in 70 World cup (Jarzinho also deserved the World best player award together with Pele)

Pele had superior teammates in a Non-competitve era!!!

Pele that finished a WC with 10 assists or the Pele that made 3 assists in a WC final??

SirKomA:
Let me say it again, when it comes to Soccer, no one plays better than Messi. Leave aside achievements, cos I don't want to go into that. I repeat, there hasn't existed a footballer that plays finer and better than Messi. Just stop the argument and get the point. Besides, you don't even like cr7 more than I do.

Fine.... Let's talk football alone

What does Messi do better than these players on the pitch of play??

Ronaldinho
Romario
Zidane
Maradona
Pele

LZAA:
Wo me i have given up trying to explain to these millennials
All u hear is messi and CR7

Lol... That guy is ready to tell you Ramos or Puyol are the best defenders ever

mystical109:
lol agbaya u really have sense. In fact you should be inducted into the hall of fame for the most senseless comment ever.

He is right.... Those players are greater than Messi and Ronaldo in world football

"Greater"

eni4real:
Pele that was injured like Dembele in 1962 World cup

How dare you compare a 3 time World Cup winner to a zero time champion??

eni4real:
Cryuff is laughing in heaven right now!!!

Oga even cristiano has surpassed cryuff in both European and world football

mystical109:
then to you, Pedro Rodriguez is the GOAT

What individual award does Pedro have coupled with his winnings??

eni4real:
World cup golden ball
Copa America 2015 Golden ball
Copa America 2016 silver boot!!!

The only player in history to win World Youth Golden ball, Copa America Golden ball, FIFA World club cup golden ball and World Cup golden ball!!!

Lol... When Pele even lost the COPA America, he was still awarded the best player of the tourney... Pele has also won both the youth and WC best player convincingly... Not like one that blatter dey dash award

Bigiyo:
abeg pele did not score 1000+ goals o

Pele 1260 goals

mystical109:
has he ever won the best player in a copa America competition? If yes, don't mention me again

Lol.... Isn't it what you messilonati fans use to judge C.Ronaldo in Laliga and by golden boot??

eni4real:
Not true
. The only controversial one is that of Chitalu of Zambia.. 120+...
It is not an official goal tho!!

People say Pele scored 1200+ goals, hope that know that Josef Bican scored more than 2500+ goals

Non-competitve era... 50's and 60's football!!!

Oga believe it or not, Pele had 127 calendar year goals in 1959

DanXplore:
Defenders in those days did not have much technique, that's why it was easier to score. Most defenders back then were not very good players unlike these days.

Tell us any defender of this generation better than

Beckenbauer
Baresi
Pasarella

mystical109:
Messi has won the best player in ever tournament he played but Ronaldo hasn't

So he won the best player for this year's COPA??

DanXplore:
Now the arguement has evolved to "not winning anything for country" to "not winning anything for the country's senior team"?

Well, atleast he took the senior team to finals atleast 3 times. What else do you want him to do? He should take them to heaven?

Someone took his team to the WC finals 3 times, and provided 3 assists in one of the finals, and his team won all... You now compare one that couldn't win a spoon with his country to him??

Zumarocket:
And a champions League winner too??

Yes because he played in Europe... And is the UCL bigger than the World Cup??

Soso990240:
And without your biased mindset and jealousy coming to play, then and now, has football became tougher or was it more difficult then? and if we should dig up all their individual statistics, will u proudly say Pele is better? abeg, I don't argue with sentiments. Football is a game, and those that master how to play d game perfectly deserve some accolade. Messi does it better. cased closed. And stop deceiving people.. Pele never scored 127 goals in a football season. Messi holds d record for most goals scored in a season in the major leagues (50). Deal with it.

Oga I said goals scored in a year .... Whether you like it or not... It will always be

Pele
Maradona

Then others follow

Mateen1000:
Good Question
Messi is the only player to win a Play maker Award and Golden Boot at the same time
Don’t bother to ask about his international trophy because they are based on team work not individual ability.

Why not check out Pele individual records and see??

Soso990240:
Individual brilliance. Messi has it more than all of them. How many of them has scored up to 50 goals in a season? Messi that is not a No9 striker did it.

Oga Pele played in a World Cup and registered 10 assists... The highest ever on the biggest stage and in the biggest footballing competition

Pele scored the highest amount of goals in a calendar year (127)

Pele was more individually brilliant than Messi or Ronaldo

Sirwallace:
All these guys are not as consistent spanning 10+ years and the Goat is still going strong.

Zidane won how many champions league? After his world cup in 1998.
Delima became a fat boy after winning the world best 3 times and remain irrelevant. The goat is stilll going strong.

Maradona is a drug dealer who won the world cup with drug and had a fantastic season with napoli and that was just it.

Cr7 is the greatest competition to the goat and that is obvious.
The goat has been very consistently consistent and still going stronger everyday.

Oga please check out Pele https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelé

Sirwallace:
Cancel 500 offside goals which are not part of the rule then and tell me how great he is.

Maradona does not even come close.

So messi is the real GOAT.

Lol... A Maradona that is a greater legend than Messi in South America as a whole ??

GraciaKim:
Player of the century?? Hope 20th and 21st century isn't included in this century you are talking about
The 1260 goals is sham, he produced the stat himself. FIFA only record a much over 700 goals for him. Before you banter, Google is your friend

Sham or not... He has 1260 goals to his name... Please look up Pele stats and see that Messi or Ronaldp do not come close

Asour:
The Ronaldos are Greats. Supremely talented.
However, This "Who is better" arguement is an unnecessary subjective game.

On a lighter note since you asked, it's interesting to note that Messi is highly likely the Only player of this generation to have won at least an individual title (MVP) from every Major Competition he has ever participated in — Since he was16,17 years old.

I am not a fan of Subjective titles/awards though, but it's a really interesting angle to the "little man's" Career.

Are you out of you godamn minds?? Go check up Pele stats and see that even Messi or Ronaldo do not come close

Fladm:
Lol... Never
Its 75

Please check it again

Debaiz:
When they all score 90 goals in a year, they should come and talk.

When they score in 21consecutive games, against every team in the league, they should come and talk.

Until then, Messi is the GOAT

Those are individual performance not about winning trophy.

Pele scored 127

Fladm:
@Bolded

Highest ever... Thank you

Pele had 127

Astark:
Overated

Messi is just less than 30 goals away and has played 150 less matches. Messi is also 3 years younger than Ronaldo(let that sink in).

Messi has more career assists than Ronaldo despite playing lesser games and he's the only player ever to win both play maker award and goal scorer. Which is almost impossible feat.

Messi isn't really a striker but much of a midfider but has more goal ratio than the so called "goal machine". Messi has won 6 golden boots( highest ever) while ronaldo has 4.

How does Ronaldo scoring 700 goals affect you or Messi??