₦airaland Forum

You don't raise rebel flag in a sovereign nation. It trouble.

Hmmm.



The evil women are capable of is limitless




You see why muslims keep women in check and covered up.




We all know what happened the first time a woman was let loose. Apple things and the rest was history.

tosyne2much:
Bros you have spoken intelligently

I have also been wondering why on earth an educated person will be bereft of technological knowledge.

Even without asking, one's initiative should tell him that another person can never get access to your account with just BVN

Abi o.

And the guy and some of his equally shameless apologists keep arguing with anyone who cares to enlighten them.

nnachukz:
joblessness may remain your portion. I'm not you, not everybody is jobless like you. I just aired my neutral opinion on the topic based on the current political statements and counter-statements which have dominated our political sphere these days. Your blabbing is uncalled for.

Hey guy I didn't curse you. I just aired my opinion based on what you wrote. Your unnecessary curse is uncalled for.

Don't take it personal guy. Try and be optimistic next time.

repogirl:
I really don't know why my simple question to list the roads is paining you like this.

Bros, I am not fighting with you. You brought up heavy allegations against this company and all I did was ask where and where were abandoned.

I still refuse to believe that the government paid Julius Berger the full amount needed to complete those roads and they just abandoned it.

Somehow I won't be surprised if that's what happened anyway.

Still Berger recently completed that overhead bridge at lifecamp so that has got to be some progress.

Airport road has been expanded, so it wasn't abandoned.

Gwarimpa has an overheard bridge recently built also.

As for the federal secretariat side, I haven't taken note of the roads there but I know work is constantly going on at the central area, they recently expanded that road along the dome towards churchgate building.

I think you exaggerated in saying 85% of the roads in Abuja were abandoned by Berger. Yes they might not have completed the initial agreement of dual roads but I wouldn't say they were abandoned.

You see what am talking about.

I mentioned just one example and you mentioned about 4 and 3 of what you mentioned are pretty much in the same district yet you said I exaggerated. Lifecamp, Airport junction, gwarimpa. We've not come to kubwa-zuba and the other districts in abuja.

Only few major roads has been completed(signed sealed and delivered). The airport road is one of them and its because its a presidential route.

Julius berger don't collect money for their works. They are paid with crude oil. Ask anyone else. They'll tell ya.


**My sis am not angry with you but you put it to me that I've made a baseless accusation that you were taking personal and true to my nature as a human being, I went defensive in an offensive way.
(Attack is the best form of defense)

nnachukz:
I will take him serious when it is done. I'm not interested in all these sweet talks.

By the time its done and graduates are out, you will still be jobless and still maintain that until u see them employed.

By the time they get employment, you will still be jobless and maintain that until u see them collect salary.

And so on and so on.

Tomorrow belongs to those who prepare for it. This is an opportunity instead of you saying until it is done.

tosyne2much:
Hahhaha

My broda shey I lie ni.

When a so called educated person is afraid of ordinary BVN that is protected by my fingerprints. It shows the person is not in tune with the present technology let alone the Nexgen technology.

I see no difference between such person and an old illiterate market woman who for the fear of the bank loosing her money prefers to keep in under her bed.

Only that that woman, was better because she is an illiterate. If she had been educated, she would have a better chance of understanding how it works.

And the fact that he brought it to an open forum like Nairaland and some people were supporting him makes it really annoying.

repogirl:
all these ones you are saying are off point.
I am in Abuja, I see Julius Berger, CCECC and other construction companies doing work all over, and that is why I wondered which of the roads were abandoned.

All I hear from you are allegations and hear say from your so called insiders. My question is simple, which road was Berger paid and then abandoned?

Hahahaha so because you see them doing construction work all over now means there are no abandoned roads. I can now see that even if you were born in Abuja it will still be useless cos you know nothing about the town u leave in and u expect to engage me in discussion?

FYI CCECC is a relatively new company in Nigeria. All projects being handled by CCECC are post OBJ era and majorly GEJ era. The most prominent being the rail project. Major roads in Abuja were handled by Julius berger(75%) and Arab contractors(25%).

If you haven't noticed that Lifecamp road towards airport junction and beyond was designed to be dual carriage lanes then you should really consider not talking about abuja.

That is the only example I will give you. You can use this weekend to move around Abuja and notice more abandoned roads or go back to watching your Telemundo or stick with the romance section. Try and go around the federal secretariat, CBN building etc and take your time there. Remember to look around for the sign of the construction company that handled the project.

Also don't forget to report your findings.

repogirl:
where I stay and when I moved to Abuja is not the point here. Your claim is that Julius Berger abandoned the roads they were meant to build when Elrufai left office and I would simply like to know which roads they were.

I don't engage in meaningless and pointless discussions.

I'm not asking for your house address so I don't know why it is an issue for u.

Let me first tell you how important it is. Your history and area in Abuja will determine your knowledge of the happenings in town.

I won't discuss with someone who is in Lagos and discussing abuja issue.

BTW I have insiders in JB that has worked with them for over 10years.

MrImole:
u nid d book pas dem.

Mr spell checker. Are you satisfied you achieved something.

raumdeuter:
Tinubu don send am to retirement, Just like he almost sent Bode George to exile

Na this man suffer for Tinubu hand the most. Beaten by Fashola for governorship, beaten by Agbaje again. EVen his son lost the House of assembly ticket

Jagaban I juba for you oohhhh

Sgt Koli don return time to open Ekitigate files

The man wan bail out of the country leaving Fayose to face the music alone

E be like say PDP politicians don dey see say na to go school go read better book go fit give dem chance against APC who has at least 70% lawyers in its ministerial nominees and a certain professor of law as VP.

Its better to take a break and study before the start playing the raggae and the blues.

repogirl:
pls list the roads that were abandoned.

First let me ask which area of Abuja do u stay and when did you get to Abuja. You honest answer will determine you answer.

tendercharles:
what is he meeting them for? are they the curuption free contractors in Nigeria ?

Nope. They're actually one of the biggest thieves in the country.

Remember that he met the thieves in the power sector too and we all know the end result.

This was the same way El-rufai met with them and forced them to construct 85% of the roads in abuja today. Immediately he left, they abandoned the roads. All major roads in Abuja is designed to be dual carriage but because each lane of the roads are so wide these dudes did only one lane of most of it and left the other lane.

sammhi:
sorry, that is not zero based budgeting. ..nothing to do with frugality..but more of reality..frugality has to do with those operating the system..you can still be wasteful under a zero based budget.
a zero based means you start afresh..most budget are based on previous years earning and performance....but a zero based does not take into account the previous year(s) income and expenditure....it is as if nothing has ever happened. it has its advantages and disadvantages

Flets:
Maybe you need to go learn about zero based budgeting for yourself first.

IT IS NOT ASSUMING YOU HAVE NO MONEY IN YOUR POCKET ....... DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT NOW?

Zero based budgeting means building your budget from new cost components and structures. It means developing new basis for all budget components and not referencing previous budget basis.

E.g. The 2015 budget for developing a kilometer of road would have been based on escalating 2014 actual cost to reflect current day basis. Under zero budget budgeting, no reference will be made to the previous budget basis.... rather the budget will be based on today's executable bids and rates.

Now run along.......

All you just blow their na big grammar. Solving simple problem with complex solution.

@bold what is the difference between that and a street boy who assumes he has no money. It means the same thing. It means a conductor doesn't care how much you paid for T.fare yesterday it is what is obtainable today that he collects. You give him N1000 early in the morning he tells you no change despite going home with about N12000 in N200 & N100 denominations

You see the two of you just analysed the expenditure side of the budget. Now tell me in a zero based budget, what happens to the previous revenue you generated? Do you calculate your new revenue based on the previous revenue?

When I say street like is it not d same thing with starting afresh. Probably you don't know what street life is. Street life means you deal with life as it comes. Yesterday is gone. You only deal with now and what happens in the present. In the street, you assume(not definite) you don't have money. Ask any conductor in the morning for change, they will tell you they don't have irrespective of the amount of change they took home the previous day.

Nothing like historical cost. Do you now get it that I was explaining to a layman who knows little or nothing about budgeting and not you who knows too much and finds it hard to relate it to a street person.

BTW they were talking about the generation of the revenue so I didn't bother to go into the expenditure side.

All this for a woman.




Who says islam is repressive?




Islam is beautiful.

TonyeBarcanista:
Where will they get the money to fund the budget? I hope nobody is considering loan?

Flets:
This government should be reminded that elections are over. Enough of these noises as reality have set in already.

Lets do some simple mathematics.
Nigeria's total crude production currently hovers at 2M barrel per day, but I will assume 2.5M barrel for sake of optimism
Crude oil sells at slightly above $40/ barrel but I will assume $45/ barrel
Most JV agreements with Oil corporations stands at an average of 60% for Nigerian govt.
Cost of production of oil for most companies stand at almost 50% but I will assume 30% (optimist case) and then 70% profit
Only about 52% of total earnings goes to the FG, the remaining goes to state allocations and host state derivation
Assuming an exchange rate 200 naira per dollar and 365 days a year

Federal Government can make approximately 1.8 trillion naira from crude sales for 2016 optimally. Details below
so 2.5Million x $45 x 60% x 70% x 52% x 200 x 365 = 1.8 Trillion Naira

Historically, crude has formed about 70% of our budgets.... following same logic, total budget can only be 2.6 trillion Naira (1.8Trillion/ 70%)

Even if we increase taxes, collapse all tax and duty exemptions and without any diversification efforts by the current government, we will be lucky to add another 1trillion the 2.6 trillion to make it a maximum of 3.6 trillion.

So realistically speaking, 8 trillion FG budget is impossible for 2016. Propagandically speaking, APC govt have said it and they believe their zombies will believe it.

Typical Jonathanians.

Same way someone once said Nigeria does not have N30tn in 5years.

First go and learn what is called ZERO BASED budgeting.

It is the most frugal system of budgeting where you assume you have no money in your pocket and you want to spend N8trn. Meaning you have to go street wise. Nothing like wastage, nothing like excess.

If in 3months after all the trillions spent on election, After the bailout, despite the sharp drop in crude oil price, TSA can still generate N1.4trn. You can then imagine what past government has been stealing.

BTW they are now in government now. So they now see the through picture of things clearer than they even did when they were in the opposition. So you cannot claim the don't know what they're saying.

iskay1971:
You are right, people already are having bad experience due to this. Let NCC rise to this call and do something urgently before it ....

Nobody is having any bad experience. It is simply impossible.

Having my BVN is like having my account number nothing more. It is useless to the person possessing it and could only be useful to the owner if the possessor puts money in the account.


Anyone that is shouting about this needs to get education. Such person is no different from illiterate market women.

MikelEleta:
Has anyone wondered about the dangers of using your phone to get your BVN number. All I see is how excited everybody seems to be. Though its a laudable initiative BUT I feel it would give room for criminals and hackers to easily obtain the BVN number simply by collecting ones phone and using it to send the code thereby obtaining the BVN number. Something urgently needs to be done concerning this OR in the meantime let it be stopped by the NCC. I fear for the repercusions of this. Does anyone concur to what am saying or has a contrary opinion? Please I would like to get contributions. Cc Lalasticlala, Obinoscopy, Ishilove and all other mods please push this to front page let the authorities hear us.

Here is my question.

Don't you give people your account number?


Am sure most of the people that will join in condemning this innovation have distributed their account number to almost everyone on their contact list.

Having access to my BVN is like having access to my account number simple. It doesn't mean you have access to my account.

This is why the western worlds still regard us as being backward.

airsaylongcon:
By default, nairalanders will insult rather than constructively criticise. The dislikes button will just give avenue for the level of insults to be quantified in the number of dislikes

I believe every policy has its merits and otherwise. It is now left to determine and weigh the two and know which one outweighs the other. Of which I believe the merits outweighs the demerits.

Mbkite:
He just received a text message from his MD with a website to apply for a job in a bigger firm. He thought the message was not for him. When he called the MD to confirm, he was shocked that the MD confirmed the text message and encouraged him to apply for the job.
Dear Nairalanders, has any other person experienced a thing like this and what could be the intention?
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MODS, - pls help me move this to FP, I need more suggestions. Thanx

Maybe you've being a good employee and the MD wants you to go higher.

Apply and tell him you did as he directed and carry in along as things progresses but try and ask him why he did such. That is later after applying. He may have contacts in there to help or maybe its a slot and he doesn't want to miss it.


But if you know you've being a bad employee, then be wary of it.

Are they not to proceed on retirement leave and while at that, acting directors are appointed in their stead pending confirmation by the board?

airsaylongcon:
Trolls

How?




If they couldn't troll on the "like" button how would they troll on the "dislike" button.

Djicemob:
Some trolls would still abuse it

How my broda?

airsaylongcon:
Not gonna happen

Why did u say so?

porka:
[size=13pt]Breakdowns of monthly FAAC disbursements were posted on the ministry of finance's website during Jonathan's administration.

They were also published in newspapers.[/size]

They were published?

Yet we didn't know when Okonjo and GEJ connived to withdraw over $2billion from it.

Even at that, is it only FAAC that we have in this country?

Oga don't justify mediocrity.

I have read a number of comments on this forum requesting the owner(seun) to create a dislike button and I am fully in support of it.

It is very important for this forum to have a dislike button so that people can know the true perspective of other readers on whatever they've written.

Having only "like" button without "unlike" button is a biased judgement of peoples opinion. It is like having a "vote of confidence" while a whole lot of people are disenfranchised from showing their "vote of no confidence". If this forum is to really give equal opportunity to everybody to voice their opinion, then there should be dislike button.

People should be able to know that it is not all their opinion that makes sense. So next time they can have a proper thinking before they comment. This will not only put in check the moral bankruptcy that is destroying our society but will go along way to reduce insults on the forum. Why waste time and resource typing insult when I can simply dislike the comment.


Feel free to add your own reason.

Seun, Lalasticlala, Ishilove, macolatunji

wisino1:
The statement coming from the dss doesn't make sense...... If you have additional charges against him them seek the leave of the court instead of turning to gate men at his residents

omolami:
This is clearly impunity on the part of DSS. Dasuki was to proceeded overseas for medical check up hence the court granted the release of his passport Why would the DSS not allow him return from his trip before attacking him again. If Buhari send this goat of a DSS boss a messenger message can't he use his sense at least for once.?

Just listen to your illiterate selves. You think by the fact that your comments got "likes" show that people approve of what you said. NO. It only shows the level of ignorance in our society and it is pitiable.

Because the court grant him freedom on a particular case now means he cannot be investigated for another? Is the court judgement a universal one that covers all other offences?

You lots needs to get a proper education about how legal system works instead of fighting to comment on the first page.


Seun, Lalasticlala, Ishilove, macolatunji this is the reason we need dislike button on this forum. So that people can know the true perspective other readers on whatever they've written. Having only "like" button without "unlike" button is a biased judgement of peoples opinion. It is like having a "vote of confidence" while a whole lot of people are disenfranchised from showing their "vote of no confidence"

People should be able to know that it is not all their opinion that makes sense. So next time they can have a proper thinking before they comment. This will not only put in check the moral bankruptcy that is destroying our society but will go along way to reduce insults on the forum. Why waste time and resource typing insult when I can simply dislike the comment.

STENON:
I stopped reading this post immediately I read that the hospital was a Government Hospital in Osun state.

Can any good things( e.g. Education, Health) come frm Osun State?

Go back and read it then do the needful.


People are angry at the news already don't let them descend on you.


Thank me later

McCarlito:
Nigerian nurses and their I Don't Care Attitudes when their licences are withdrawn from them(If it is possible in Nigeria) now the will start blaming the devil....
See the cruel treatment melted out to a newborn and sending him/her back after barely spending 20mins on earth....














May the soul of both the woman and newborn rest in peace.....

Licence or what did you say?

God forbid such happens to me. I will not stop until every single person including the state CMD is charged for Manslaughter.

As a matter of fact, at least someone would've accompanied the mother and the baby to the grave that very day by my hand.


Bunch of wicked souls. They just spoilt my night.

Lakeland4321:
i am not supporting mtn but what you calculated was revenue not profit which will be about 15% of that amou

You're probably right cos they would've declared profit for those period and shared it but ceteris paribus this accounting year will go down as explained below.

jomoh:
Fine is not deducted after profit. The company will count it as part of expenses and deduct it before declaring the profit to be shared by shareholders.

So it is before tax which is before profit.

Even the fine will be taxed because it is taxable expenses.

Fine doesn't care if you make profit or loss, if you borrow it or steal it. Just pay and you still pay tax on it. Na u break d law.



#Accountant/Auditor here

Except NCC gives them a concession to pay installmentally.

RealBae:
In a country with no data control policy, you want to leave your data in the hands of fraudulent people

Before you know it, you start looking for all the money in your account.

The problem with this country is too many policies at the same time.
No sane person will like to give out his or her details with cases of hacking and internet fraud going on

O boy... OYO

Very true though.

This is why am an advocate of getting rid of BDCs and black marketers for now or totally. Let everyone buy through the bank or the banks should be the ones operating BDCs.

If we're to maintain BDCs then let there be strict regulations.

pion:
Good, but a little correction is in order:
N238bn is revenue not profit. They can only pay the fine with profit! Unless you suggest they borrow to pay the fine.

NB:I am neither for nor against MTN.

Fine is not deducted after profit. The company will count it as part of expenses and deduct it before declaring the profit to be shared by shareholders.

So it is before tax which is before profit.

Even the fine will be taxed because it is taxable expenses.

Fine doesn't care if you make profit or loss, if you borrow it or steal it. Just pay and you still pay tax on it. Na u break d law.



#Accountant/Auditor here