₦airaland Forum

AreaFada2:
With people like you suddenly believing in ignoring Federal Character that has favoured the North so much, the result could be another civil war or various militant agitations. It may seem impossible now but 15 years ago Nigerians blowing themselves up seemed impossible. I reside in a country where things are done on merit only. If it were on merit in Nigeria, Nigeria won't be as it is now. GMB has nothing to offer Nigeria that Fashola or Ribadu cannot offer ten times more of. If things really were done on merit. GMB has been part of our problems. He cannot offer us a better future. Shikena. By the way the East had palm produce: kernel oil and rubber. These were considerable export products too.

No wonder you people keep shouting. Apart from the obvious fact that you find it hard to forgive the past which is very selective because if we as a people refuse to forgive the past we cannot move forward. What has PMB done that is worse than what the Igbo generals did? If we can forgive the Igbos and integrate them into the society even when they were not remorseful. If we can forgive ex militants and give them amnesty then why alienate PMB alone? The only set of people that is not worth forgiveness of Nigerians and any Nation are the Boko Haram and ISIS of this world.

If you have any personal reason to not forgive him, it is better you cast it behind now if truly you are that passionate about Nigeria getting better. You should pray and support him instead of finding faults every single move of is. He's going to be the president for 4years. Its not far but a lot can go wrong if we don't guide our utterances especially as it relates to ethnicity.

FYI federal character is only constitutional in the selection of ministers. The Legislators who kept silent on appointments of aides and service chiefs knows the sitting president needs trusted hands in this areas. People that won't have much reason to want to sabotage the government.

Fasola and Ribadu? Come on. Be realistic for once do you really think Fasola and Ribadu have the mettle to take on the hawks of Nigerian Politics? Yes one poses the youthful zeal while the other has the brain. But do you think the two of them could have succeeded without their Godfathers(Obj and Tinubu) behind them? The answer is a NO. Desperate times requires desperate measures. Only a staunch PDP supporter will prefer a Fasola or Ribadu to PMB main reason been that, they know a Fasola or Ribadu cannot defeat a sitting president. FACT. Does Fasola or Ribadu have a cult following of the masses like PMB. I won't say more than that on this.

Why do you keep countering your points and going back and forth? You want merit at the same time you want federal character. If no Yoruba man is qualified to be perm Sec. in a Ministry should they because of Federal character now sack his bosses? The Igbo man that was initially announced as acting DG of NIMASA was later discovered to have a more senior officer, that is Merit. Whereas leaving him there would have served federal character purpose but would not be on Merit. You can't eat your cake and have it.

Rubber, kernel, palm? In what quantities and at what price as against cocoa and nuts? Try and do research on commodity prices.

Sanchez01:
Enough of this bull crap, abeg! I'm from the SS and I can categorically state that Igbo tribes in the SS has been and is still denying that they're not one and the same as Igbos in the SE.

Problem with you guys is that you cannot fight your battles yourself and your unholy alliance with the SS is largely because of its oil. I reiterate for the umpteenth time, THE SS is NOT THE SAME AS THE SE! We're not the same and we'll never be. The bitterness of the Igbos recently is because of the huge miscalculation at the recent elections. If the Igbos want Biafra let them push for it without attaching themselves to the SS.

Just like Etcetera wrote sometimes ago, the Igbo leadership is confused and lost. One minute you want Biafra, the next minute you decry being ignored. One instance you say Nigeria is a zoo, the next you travel all over the zoo, refusing to return to your Utopia to develop it.

Please stop playing victim. You marginalized yourselves. The Arewa Forum, as big and as powerful as it is never threw its weight behind Buhari prior to the elections, at least they did not announce it publicly even if they supported him.

Just yesterday, a stray bullet killed an innocent trader and some annoying folks came here wailing that Buhari is planning on killing Igbos on their turf, to the extent that the coward albino broadcasted that Igbos react.

Question is, how many people has policemen 'mistakenly' killed in the South West since Jan? Enough of this Barcelona injury-feigning act of cowardice.

SS know themselves, biko.

Lol. This is TKO Total Knock Out.

Its unfair o. why use my beloved barcelona as example.

NDPVF:
[s][/s]And the insults and attack hurled at Gej,before,during and after the election,by the duo of north and southwest,meant love,isn't it?.Upon that,Gej treated all fairly.shm

There's a very thin line between insults and hate speeches.

And I was referring to post election. Elections are over they now want something from him so they should reconsider their strategies. You can't threaten me to trust you. It is simply ironical.

Threats and trust don't go together.

AreaFada2:
Lol, why not just say you mean Igbo?

No, I'm not Igbo. But to make a whole tribe guilty for the sin of a few is sheer bigotry.

I accuse GMB of treason, not all Hausa-Fulani. Because an elderly lady in Damaturu or Kafanchan has no business planning coups, just like one in Afikpo or Orlu doesn't do coups. Ironsi centralisation policy was to reassure the North about Nigerian unity. Of course it was erroneous to believe the North could be pacified. Of course he erred by not properly prosecuting the coup plotters.

After the first coup, counter-coup killing an Igbo head of State and massacre of Igbos in the North, loss of millions of Nigerians in civil war, death of Murtala and finally Shagari government, didn't Nigeria finally deserve democracy and peace? Did we have to lose Vatsa, MKO, Shehu Yar'Adua and many more? Shagari's govt was the best chance to lead Africa in democracy after so much turmoil.

I don't get your point.

My point is if some people had not set a precedence, a very bad one at that, we probably wouldn't have been in this mess we are today.

Centralising the country was not to percify any region but attain selfish interest of benefiting from other regions cos obviously as at that time the eastern was about the poorest region due to the commodity nigeria was dealing with which was agricultural produce. The west(cocoa) and north(groundnut) were leading at the time. The centralisation favoured the east at the time but the lack of foresight by Ironsi and his cronies prevented them from seeing that the occupant of the new centralised system ultimately wields the power and owns the economy.

You claim that bigotry is blaiming the act of few on the whole tribe. Meaning a few cannot represent the interest of a tribe. Fine.

Going by your submission, then why are they agitating for appointment of a few to represent a region since a few people cannot represent the interest of the whole region. Using your analogy "an elderly lady in Damaturu or Kafanchan has no business with federal appointments, just like one in Afikpo or Orlu doesn't care about secures the nation. As long as they can conveniently put food on their table in a peaceful atmosphere.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Let's agitate for good governance instead of this hypocrisy.

Kaduna ezeogwu used his tribes men to lead the coup to kill other tribes and seize power because they are the ones he trusted.

PMB is using people he trust to lead Nigeria to liberation from 16years occupation and impoverishment of Nigerians by PDP because the people he trusts are mostly his people.

Also the actions and utterances of these people are not encouraging him to trust them e.g. Senate debacle, NIMASA DGs scene, Emefiele's US insubordination.

chuna1985:
Which document is that - """official passport for government officials"""

It is called diplomatic passports. It gives anyone who travels with it the immunity against extradition and other prosecutions(criminal or civil)

dejavski:
Still doesn't mean anything... they have all the money in this world to acquire a regular passport

Regular passport is very different from diplomatic passport.

It is to prevent them from travelling with it and claiming diplomatic immunity which would mean they can not be extradited.

ArodewilliamsT:
Na so! Typical yorobba with stockholm syndrome. Kari is the only one who has been in the Insurance for ages. Infact he even brought Insurance to Nigeria that is why he merits it. Yoruba brain filled with hypocrisy even when the Truth is WHITE, you find a way to say it looks Black because you want to be in your masters books. The most hypocritical set of people in the world according Radio Biafra.

Maybe Buhari also agrees with Radio Biafra that's why he has sidelined you traitors from his government and appointed only one of you to do your parrot job of painting white as black for his government which is your stock in trade.

If Yorubas are traitor to Murders it is justifiable.

We are traitors you are murderers.

AreaFada2:
Lol@impeachment. The only reason his impeachment would swet me is simple. Because he denied us the chance to build on our 1979 democratic transition. For that act of treason, no punishment is too big for GMB. I witnessed it. The crap of "oh, he was only invited to lead after the coup" is nonsense. Rumours of a Buhari-led coup had been afoot even before OBJ handed over to Shagari. I had seasoned journalists in the family then and of course they suffered the wrath of GMB later as HoS. When the wrath began, I couldn't believe it was the same handsome officer I met briefly just after he became HoS. Try and paint him a saint to those who don't know him enough. Not to me.

LMAO @bold. Is this not selective memory. Instead of castigating the man for planning a coup why don't you castigate the tribe that staged the first coup in the history of our great nation. In the process murdered all the representatives and leaders of all other tribes in the country except theirs and abolishing the regional system of government to deny the Niger Delta the fiscal autonomy over its resources. The action that threw this once great nation into decades of retrogression and later plunged the greatest black nation on earth into its first and deadliest war.

Perhaps if you're from that tribe that committed treason against the Nation and its people(dead, living and generations unborn), then calling PMB a coupist will be an act of pure hypocrisy.

NDPVF:
[s][/s]I cant belief in a democratic setting,where democracy gave people the power to make choice as regards who governs them,they that didnt vote for a particular candidate are tagged his sworn enemies.i hope same is applicable to your states and local government.ediot.

I don't expect anything better from you.

They tagged them selves with such name and made it sound loud and clear not only through their votes but also through their utterances.

It cannot happen in my state or local government cos its not a do or die affair to keep my corrupt, incompetent and unproductive brother in office to the extent of tagging an opponent an enemy of my people and our popular religion.

AreaFada2:
Look, anyone can try to justify anything. There are people who even justify Boko's killings as necessary hazards in their quest to achieve their cause. You seem to believe that a previous unfair policy that aimed to achieve exactly what have on ground now doesn't matter. Then they go ahead and appoint 90% Northerners to all post to make it a precedent and reality of the future. And according to you, only the reality will matter.

Mr. Because you want him to appoint other region or because you want him to correct the anomaly of the past you will rather see him retire/disengage top ministry officers unconstitutionally? A constitution he swore to uphold?

At the same time you will be the first person to scream blue murder if he does. You will be the first to start celebrating when impeachment process is started against him for unconstitutional behaviour.

Instead of you to agitate for better process in the future you're here rooting for illegality. All in the name of being an opposition.

sunnyb0b0:
Reality abi?
When it came to the appointment of service chiefs, there was no reality as he went on to retire more 10 Generals to be able to a point his people. Now, reality is setting g in.

Issokay, some people really do kit have shame.

The law guiding the civil service is different from the one governing the military. He has every constitutional power to retire, dismiss, discharge anyone in the military and appoint anyone he deem fit and trust. As long as he didn't break the military service rule.

AreaFada2:
How did that happen? Is it that other regions citizens were not applying for those jobs?
We all know the long leg involved in most civil service recruitments.
A young Northern graduate was made boss of uncle at NNPC in IBB's time. My uncle was Dutch & Canadian trained enginer with NNPC for many years. A very good project manager. The Hausa boy was just carrying girls up and down at a local university.

Northern rulers of Nigeria have been doing affirmation action for decades now. We can see where it has taken us.

Like you rightly pointed out, everybody knows how it happened but how it happened is not the issue on ground because the fact that it happened that way will not make the President to go against his vow to uphold the Rule of Law which the Civil service rule falls under.

The present situation is reality and we have to accept it while at the same time put pressure on the government to institutionalise fairness in the process of recruitment into the federal civil service instead of finding faults where there's none.

Once again these are appointments based on civil service rule and not political appointments. Except for his personal aides and you can't blame him for appointing trusted hands. Especially at this critical moment of restructuring. The treacherous events in the senate, the actions of the sacked NIMASA DG on the maritime security contract and the Emefiele(CBN Gov.) debacle in the US has not helped matters either.

So at a crucial time when the man needs trusted hands on the rescue mission to save the country from the dungeon it was thrown into by PDP presently dominated by SS and SE, his sworn enemies, you expect him to still select from such region.

No. Even if he had the intention of doing so, It is not possible for the time being especially not with the quick, treacherous
events that unfolded in the senate.

Only an unwise individual will still go ahead and select people from a zone where he is not popular at a time he needs trusted hands. Even an ordinary civilian will be forced to back track and thread carefully let alone a retired soldier. It takes time to earn their trust and when you do, they repay your trust.

The actions of the sacked NIMASA DG as per Maritime security contracts and that of Emefiele(CBN Gov.) in US is still fresh in mind which has gone a long way in fuelling the flame of mistrust rather than douse it.

abduljabbar4:
Leave that hypocrite alone. You need to see how he was exposing pdp before his defection so just forget about him. He is a noise maker thats why i dont even read his topics. I simpy read the title and then make fun of him

Are you telling me about him. I even exchanged PMs with him at that time. I remember in one of my mails telling him the possible repercussion of his action on his image at the time he just switch side. But when the motivation lies with something more than passion for good.

You even have time to read his articles. I only read comments and laugh over them.

I thought some protection seeker and his gang of illiterates said Nigeria don have that kind of money.

Op wats all this. I was born in the early 80s and I never see all dis before

I pray woman no go kill you.










Asewo.

You people no dey sleep.







Anyways I'll read in the morning. Hopefully I wake up Insha Allah

amdo007:
Yes. We are patiently waiting. But the accusations against him are pilling fast too. And on top of it is tribalism. I voted for GMB, I voted for a Nigerian president not a sectional or tribal leader. So if the rumors are false ( which I pray they are) he should start delivering on those promises above.
God bless Nigeria.

When he was the Military head, he had all the opportunity to be sectarian. He never did.

But if you look at the settings of our civil service especially if you've had the opportunity of living in Abuja. You will find out that more that 40 percent of the civil servants in the various federal establishments are northerners. The remaining ones are distributed amongst the remaining region. So it is no surprise that out of about 50 most senior officers of different establishment more than 25 will be from the north.

The fact is that these people hardly work in private organisations. Once they graduate, job is sure for them in a federal establishment. As long as the person is a northerner. You can hardly find an unemployed graduate in the north. No matter how poor he was academically and once he enters they favour themselves to grow rapidly in the establishment.

On the issue of present appointments, he has little or no control over who becomes the head. He has vowed to follow the due process of appointing the most senior officers. According to the law guiding the civil service.

Let's wait for the ministerial list that he has absolute control over before we can judge.

theunusualmoon:
I hope so because managing Lagos is not the same as managing the Federation.

Absolutely correct. Reason why he has to take his time to lay a solid foundation.

It might be different but the basic concept is the same. Create strong institutions that needs little or no supervision to act. Each institutions must have its own mission and visions. Unlike the kangaroo/banana republic that was inherited.

When Ministers come in they just act as external supervisors to create checks and balances and give corrections and recommendations when necessary.

Wrong turn thread again.





But guy hope no problem with all this anti bible thread tonight.










Walking out of thread.

amdo007:
BUHARI'S PROMISES

Some of the promises  made by Buhari and the APC



These were his promises. Though am disturbed by what am seeing at the moment, I hope he keeps to his words.

Source: http://www.abuja-ng.com/aso-rock.html

Don't be disturbed. Keep calm.

Even the most ardent but rational critic would accept the fact that with all the happenings in the country presently, there's too much problems on ground that needs urgent attention before he can even settle down to work on his promises.

But God is in control sha.

MabraO:
For ur mind now u wan tell me say u be lawyer abi
I see u

Me ke.


If I represent you na you they go find guilty despite being the plaintiff

[s]All hail the great Iron lady of Nairaland.


Ishilove[/s]


**Modified**

After reading the article, I think the Op is high on expired Igbira weed.

Getting better but PMB cannot do it all but he will
prepare the ground.




Same way Tinubu couldn't do it all in Lagos but prepared the ground for Fasola to build on.

Na wa o.

Party of hoodlums and criminals

One by one

Wrong thread.
















Turns back and walks out.

MabraO:
Who dash am Lai lai I no gree He just denied me right to comment earlier

What's dat quote I used to see on some cars o.













Yes. Don't get angry, get a lawyer.

christinie:
Moronic

U see. Just when you thought it was human, then it bleats.
Alas its a Goat.

MabraO before nko. He no be boss ni.
Abeg na him thing o

RIP to him and condolences