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3nim, she was SS for 10 years.

3nim, when I say hope I mean following what He wills. He would rather they did not eat of the tree which was His will than they eat it against what He wants. For you to say God knew that Adam & Eve will sin is to say He created them to sin. Which will be absolutely against His nature of holiness. God knew the ability to disobey was there and He knew what that disobedience will lead to. He also knew they had the ability to obey and He knew what that obedience would lead to. God did NOT create man to fall, man fell by choice. He gave Adam & Eve the gift of choice, they floundered it.

Ferisidowu:
a person can lose his so called salvation... an elect can't lose his SALVATION

what is an elect's salvation?

Ferisidowu:
it depends on what salvation is..
so to you, what's salvation?

total translation from darkness to light, by grace through faith. Whatever definition you have, I ask can a person lose it?

Ferisidowu:
then not everyone needs Jesus

can somebody lose their salvation?

3nim:
Solite3

Lemme just address what I said here before you might think so much about it :




It's just that all I've known about God were words and feelings...me feeling God was in me.

I realised the feeling most likely came because of the words I had heard. It was my head believing so much I started to feel what I believed.. I now believe that this is the case with all believers.

Actions speak louder than words.. words mean nothing if you cannot prove it with actions. I've never personally witnessed any action. I doubt Christians really have. If anything, they'd attribute coincidenes to God.

Those miracles on TV. Do you know anyone who was sick and got healed? You should have known this person in sickness and not just after the healing. Yes my name is also doubting Thomas lol

on healing, my uncle's friend's daughter was born ss she was prayed for and is aa now. He is actually a member of one church, but she got healed in another church.

3nim, I am pretty sure you didn't read what I wrote. God did NOT know they WOULD eat the fruit, He knew they COULD eat the fruit. It was a matter of choice; obey the God that put you in the beautiful garden or go with the serpent that has done nothing for you. Loyalty is not loyalty until it is tested. God tested their loyalty and they failed, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life overtook them. The absence of the tree will mean the presence of man as robots, no choice, just following what is given to him. God has no need for man like that, He already has angels like that. The tree was the test of Adam & Eve, today we all have our own forbidden fruits and we choose what to do with them. God is not a zombie master, He is a God that encourges choices. He is NOT the author of sin, man's choices eventually make or mar him in eternity.

Ubenedictus:
you are the person who is creating this dichotomy, the Bible present heaven both as inheritance and reward.

Romans 2:6-8 New American Bible (Revised
Edition) (NABRE)
who will repay everyone according to his works:
eternal life to those who seek glory, honor,
and immortality through perseverance in good
works, but wrath and fury to those who selfishly
disobey the truth and obey wickedness.


God repays (reward) with eternal life those who seek glory through good works.

Uben, your point is crystal clear and I agree with you.

Bro, you're wrong and I am sure you've never listened to their messages before. If God truly spoke to you, is it on nairaland you will come and relate the message? My brother face your front and continue working out your own salvation with fear and trembling. The moment the whole world hears the gospel, Jesus will return, regardless of who is preaching what.

Uyiii:
hmm, the question seems funny and counter-intuitive because He's an all knowing God as you rightly stated, but I'll say yes God does learn from experiences.
there are many Bible references to back up this claim but I'll talk about the popular Noah story.
after God destroyed the world with water except Noah's ark and everything within, He went on to promise not to destroy the world with water anymore even with the rainbow sign to signify calmness.
This assertion reveals God wasn't pleased with the water destruction outcome and because of that wouldn't want it to happen again.

P.s: I also hear God regretted creating a woman or rather cursed the day he created a serpent, I'm not sure sha, bible gurus can help clarify this and of course elucidate more on your question.
cheers man.

He repented that He created man as a whole. Not woman or serpent. Genesis 6:6.

3nim, your question on Lucifer and the fall of man. God knows the end from the beginning, but doesn't remove the power of choice. Now Adam & Eve were confronted with the choice to obey or to disobey. God knew the end of what their actions will produce, He knew they would have to choose (He gave them that power) but He hoped they would choose obedience. For you to say God created man even though He knew, man will sin is to say God created sin. God knew man could sin but He hoped man didn't, but man did. God already knew the consequence and also the remedy of that fall from grace. If Adam had not sinned at Eden, we would all still be revelling in that atmosphere. My point is this: God knows the end from the beginning of every choice you make, but He will never interfere in your choice. He can be gladdened or saddened by your choice, but He will never force you against your will even if He knows the end of your choice is disastrous. God didn't know man WILL fall, He knew man COULD fall.

I doubt the authenticity of this story, too many Nigerian slangs in it for a Zimbabwean staying in the US; naija, mumu. This one is probably just angry at yorubas. On the other hand, if this is true, you can still start a new, don't be a party to abortion, don't kill over someone who is clearly not into you. It might be hard, but a bold step out of that relationship is the best.

I think it is fair, because it's better you guys break up now over the issue than for you guys to have unnecessary squabbles over it in marriage. You only met a girl who happens to take her beliefs seriously, there are those who have ended relationships because of trousers, earrings and other beliefs. Compromise is key. If the two of you can't come to a compromise on this, what will happen when bigger issues present themselves. A broken relationship is always better than a broken marriage.

Ferisidowu:
ok

but if you have anything to chip in, I will gladly welcome it.

Ferisidowu:
alright so is it Grace +works?

I am asking him myself.

Ferisidowu:
if I get your point, you are contradicting yourself..

now tell me,

the one that accepted Jesus on his death bed, how did he enter? how did he work out his salvation?

clearly you don't get my point, you just asked the same question I asked. If one is getting in on grace alone and the other on grace-works, will they inherit the same in heaven?

Ubenedictus:
he goes to heaven!

all his sins are wiped clean, he possess righteousness of Christ and is a friend of God and a son of God.

he has no evil works, he possess the good works of Christ.

God only damns the evil, his evil has been wiped clean, he will enter heaven on Christ's righteousness.

but a christian can't enter heaven on Christ righteousness alone? He/she must add his own righteousness? What is the difference (if any) in heaven between the man that accepted Jesus on his death bed and the one who worked out his salvation with fear and trembling?

Ubenedictus:
my dear the description in RM 2:9 relates to the standard of God in judgement both for Jews, Christian and gentile it tally with Matthew 15. you will enter heaven or be barred on the basis of works... that is a Gospel truth.

we are saved For good works which God foreordained for us to walk in so that on the last day when we are asked we will present works done in Christ for scripture is clear the basis for heaven or hell is works.

OK, lemme ask you again, what will happen to someone that gives his life to Christ just before he dies?

frosbel2 is a broken leg invisible to the naked eye? I answered your question. Firstly I said miracles still happen, you have probably seen one, but your issue is skepticism. You are skeptical that the miracles are fake, but there are real miracles too. Go and watch the movie "miracles from heaven" and you will see an outstanding miracle there. Secondly I told you that God is the author of miracles, He heals at His own discretion with the right principles followed. So if anybody is healed or not, it is all about God. On greater works, the first greater work we do is reconcile men to God, because of Jesus' blood shed on the cross. Another is dimensions of walk with God, eg; it was never recorded that Jesus healed people with His shadow, but Paul did it (Acts 19:11-15). Concerning the sick people only God heals, and He alone can decide not to. Concerning your skepticism, if you believe in Jesus miracles, why don't you believe in miracles today? Pray to God to make His miracles real in your own life.

these are illegal migrants, but I don't expect all those crying wolf to understand the bane of illegal migrants because we live in a country where nobody wants to migrate to (legally or illegally), if I were the President, I will definitely do same. Illegal Migrants (IM) are often detrimental to citizens of that country. They do jobs at cheaper rates compared to qualified citizens, thereby denying citizens of jobs, those who can't get good jobs may resort to crime; another wahala. The responsibility of every government is to its citizens first and foremost, then any other set of people if the resources permit. They should be grateful, they are going home with cash self.

OLAADEGBU:
Here is a thread showing the google map or is it a plan of Covenant University? How will you interprete those designs?

https://www.nairaland.com/131170/need-sketchy-plan-covenant-university

that is the star of David on Israel's flag. na wa u oh.

marttol You can and you should pray. That is what intercession is all about, standing in the gap for others. Your prayers can be the difference between life and death for that person, start praying NOW. Whether born again or not pray for his deliverance, but immediately the person is delivered lead the person to Christ and teach the Word so as to repel future counter attacks.

ojorich:
Mine is God sending himself to earth to have himself killed as a sacrifice to himself to appease himself for the sins that he decided where sins to save us from what he will do to us if we don't obey him!!! What a story.

just say you are an aethist.

Jesus preached to all of them. Pertaining to where they were before Jesus died, I can not say with biblical reference. But I can say that He preached to the dead. "By which He also went and preached unto the spirits in prison." (1Peter 3:19). "For for this cause was the gospel preached to them that are dead, that they may be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit." (1Peter 4:6). So, Jesus preached to them all, any who believes, heaven is sure.

continued.... another evidence is the case of the lame man at the beautiful gate. That man was at the gate of the temple that Jesus walked through while He was on earth, but he was never healed. At least not until Peter & John walked through the gate and he got healed. And they said the man was healed in Jesus name. One would be tempted to ask "why didn't Jesus heal him?", because He does as He pleases. Rom 9:15 "...I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion." But don't get it twisted healing is the bread of the children (Matt 15:21-28). So whenever you feel down, don't hesistate to make demands on your healing through Jesus (Isa 53:5). Some of these issues draw to mind what Paul said "....now I know in part; but then shall I know as I am known" (1Corinthians 13:12). Clarity will surely come. But for everyone who says God did not heal, there will be another who will say God healed. God Bless You.

frosbel2 happy new year. First of all, miracles still happen. I have a grandma who has been healed totally from diabetes, a classmate who broke his leg and couldn't walk anymore but was healed by Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, he is now an engineer. My uncle's friend's daughter's genotype was changed from ss to aa. These are first hand miracles not them say them say. Secondly, there are different reasons as to why some people don't receive miracles, they include, unbelief, faithlessness, doubt, sin, familiarity etc. But I am going to tell you about one that relates directly to where you are - i.e. asking questions of God- ; The Sovereignty of God. Let me give you a scripture from Ps 115:2-3 "WHEREFORE SHOULD THE HEATHEN SAY, WHERE IS THEIR GOD? BUT OUR GOD IS IN THE HEAVENS HE HAS DONE WHATSOEVER HE HAS PLEASED." No mortal man can heal anybody, you can only pray, God does the healing. And God does whatever He pleases, heals whoever He pleases of what He pleases, through whom He pleases.

Rossikk:
Israel invaded and occupied the land on which the Palestinians were living, in 1948. My guess is if a band of invaders did the same to you, you'd turn ''terrorist'' too.

it was a war in 1947, they initiated the war and are still bearing the brunt of that foolish act.

This is sad. But what is more sad is the fact that nobody is doing anything about this issue. What a country we live in. What rulers we have.

It is wrong for any partner to deny the other sex IN MARRIAGE both before God and before man. But it gives nobody the right to cheat (if there is anything like that). For a spouse to refuse sex, there must be something else wrong. This applies especially to women. A woman is not a sex object but an emotional being, get into a woman's heart, you can get into anywhere else. Initiate love, initiate romance and sex will duly follow. Even women too have desires. Secondly, she could be cheating on you in that case you may divorce her and move ahead.

DON'T MARRY HER, LOVE IS "DESPITE OH". IF SHE CAN'T STICK WITH YOU IN A RELATIONSHIP, SHE WILL RUN AWAY DURING MARRIAGE. MARRIAGE IS WAY TOUGHER. DON'T DO IT BRO, DON'T. USE YOUR HEAD AND SAFEGUARD YOUR HEART AND FUTURE. A BROKEN RELATIONSHIP IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN A BROKEN MARRIAGE.

sexybbstar:
The lady's moniker is Angeleena...

FBI (abi NBI). op you've been found out.