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KingEbukasBlog:
Lmao ... that's what wikipedia said .

- makes sense to me

Why?

He created time

Genesis 1:1

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Time has no effect on Him , that's why He is ageless

Revelation 1:8



Understand who Christians call "God" and why we call Him the Almighty , everlasting etc first , before saying your mind

Who do christians call " God" ?

frosbel:
Deuteronomy 22:28-29

" If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."

Did God really command this ?

Imagine a girl recovering from the trauma and shame of rape , then forced to live with the criminal and bear his children.

Floor open.....................

Brother , that scripture said " IF" ; which reveal that its just a principle that should be followed if such happens .

Now , dont you think that arrangement is a protection for the girl in a society where non-virgins are treated as plagues ? OR do u forget that any woman thats not met a virgin by her husband IS DIGRACED PUBLICLY and stoned to death ( Deu 22:20,21 ) ? ?

If you think such arrangement is not wise , bro tell us how it sud b done ?

WhoIBe:
read my previous comment, i did not say anything different from what u said

Dont u see a question mark " ? " , am askin you : is it just the body that die for our sins ?

winner01:
God-Haters.

Who exactly do we call " God" ? Whats his name ?

@parisbookaddict , show us where Jesus said " I am God" ?

WhoIBe:
But their is no holy war in the bible, I advice you to do the needful and benefit ur self by studying the bible and worship God in spirit n in truth.... Do not be deceived go and study the bible for ur self

You are confuse, its only the body of jesus that die ? Stop givin atheists an avenue to mock

Maamin:
@bolded red, if you believed that Jesus said "my father is greater than i" then jesus must be the Son of God..if yes! Then Jesus must be God as well cause the last time I checked the son of a human being is a human being too.

John 10: 33-36

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Are you still convinced that Jesus never called himself God?

Point of correction :
Jesus neVer call himself God ; NEVER !

If son of God means God , ALL ANGELS ARE GOD since they are all scripturally called " Son Of God"

Scholar8200:
Take a closer look at the latter part of the first reference. Besides, God Who revealed Himself as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, was not a God of the dead!

Am dissapointed with this jumbo jumbo explanations , Jesus is answering a question on resurection and he said they are all alive to God , Why ? Verse 36 said " they are children of Ressurection" , brother my question is : has the resurection occur ?

Sanchez01:
Sir, I clearly stated that sleep is a mild way to saying someone died. For Christians when you "sleep", your body dies but your soul returns to God (See my previous post, Eccl 12:7). Please read Eccl 12:7 and also what Jesus called the dead Lazarus. I see you have a problem with the body and soul concept.

"Soul" or “Spirit” may refer to the “inward man” (2 Cor. 4:16) that is fashioned in God’s image (Gen. 1:26-27), and thus be a synonym of “soul.” A sacred writer (Kenneth E. Hagin) noted that the “spirit of man is the lamp of Jehovah” (Prov. 20

@bold , So for ladies that will be inward woman . #sighs#

Brother , you are those pple letting atheists like Mizjanet mock us , if spirit is the inward MAN , and this inward man cant die . The inward man called Jesus did not die , abi ? Only his borrowed/material body die ? Explain pls . Coz uv just prove the man christ didnt die .

Scholar8200:
Take a closer look at the latter part of the first reference.

What exactly is your point bro ? Am suspecting u aint different from the pastor mentioned by Mizjanet .



What is a soul ?

What is body ?

Lets start from there ...

Sanchez01:
So you think indoctrinated Christians lack knowlegde? Let me take some time out to explain and confirm and perhaps add to what you claim you got from Christians.

True, there is resurrection, there is death and there is sleep (not literary).

So, what is resurrection: Resurrection for Christians is the act by which one defies and challenges common knowledge, and science by which an entity or a being who dies return without being aided. Please get this as it is very important.

What is death? Death is a the cessation between the mind and the body. Another school of thought also says it is the termination of all biological functions
that sustain a living organism.

What then is "sleep" in Christianity? This is a word used in place of death. There are many reasons this word is used.

Mr sanchez01 , Jesus said " Lazarus sleep" , you said its just Lazarus " BODY that sleep" .. Who should I bliv ?

Scholar8200:
Oh, why not? Now decide which of these died and who did not:

Genesis 49:33
And when Jacob had made an end of commanding his sons, he gathered up his feet into the bed, and yielded up the ghost, [size=14pt]and was gathered unto his people[/size]

Matthew 27:50
Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost

Acts 5:5-10
And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.

10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.

Based on the final authority- the Bible-all of the above died!

Brother , Those scripture said all of them died ! Jesus Died not just his flesh . That means the soul excape death theory is FALSE

Scholar8200:
That's for those whose final authority is their pastor

, brother are you saying you dont belive that soul is immortal ?

iyketech:
. It is, jesus said he had to lookk after his father's business, working for God is not just a business but a very serious business!

Pls and please , dont associate Jesus with all this fake modern day pastorpreneurs ! Can you show us the statement in bold from the bible ? Can you ?

Scholar8200:
Now she attempts to restructure her sentence! Vast majority! Source?!
James 2:26
For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.
That's how we define death. The separation process may be peaceful or violent and with excruciating pain.The latter was what Jesus bore for you ma'am! He even bore the unfathomable of them all: separation from God (no living being can imagine this!.)

Wrong !

The context is trying to qualify faith , not to define death .

Faith is dead if there is no works , faith is alive if there is work to support it , so also OUR BODY WHICH IS THE ORGINAL CREATED WORK OF GOD is dead ! It it doesnt have spirit ( breath of life) , spirit / breath of life is not a person but power of God in our nostrils (job 32:8 ), the real person is our body .. The Adam that come from the ground .

Scholar8200:
In research, we consider both primary and secondary sources of data, we do a literature review before we round up with a conclusion. Your hasty conclusion based on a single interview with one still growing in knowledge reeks of Theophobia; not atheism

Brother , forget this grammar ; what she wrote is exactly what the majority of our pastors belive

Blossom023:
Ok I guess you are talking to the op , based on what the op said, I don't want to talk. I just replied to the comments that I felt were silly.

NO. Am refering to you, re-read the post

Delusiongirl20:
wikipedia or other books can help you alot.

or do you still prefer the bible explanation which posses implausible and vague explanations of why there are different language.

Dont worry, when I start a thread about that, I will invite you , hehehe wikipedia and other books , okay !

^

Delusiongirl20:
[s]Meaning that you prefer the postulations of the ancient men about creation to modern description of why we are here which is more plausible explanation with evidence and methodology. [/s]

Sister , this thread is not for that . Rather its meant to clarify what happens when a man dies/the condition of the dead . Meanwhile I wont take you serious until you are able to give me an explanation on why humans speak different languages .

Blossom023:
God sacrificed God.
God sacrificed his son.
There was a sacrifice. just want to ask stupid questions. Shut up jhor..

Am not an atheist , but I must admit that she ask a very good question , infact it expose your confusion and polytheism . God sacrifice another God ? 2 Gods , One God Sacrife Another God ! Oh what an absurdity and shameless assertion . the bold part say it all .

During my days as a nairaland guest , have seen people go into deep and heated argument about what happen when a person dies .

Unknown to both party . The difference between Adam (C) and Adam (F) is that Adam (C) is a corpse (dead man) while Adam ( F) is a living being .

Analysis : a corpse was lying on the ground , it just came out from mud . That corpse lying on the ground dont know anything . In reality it doesnt exist . Its not aware of anything ... Who is that corpse ? Adam . Thats exactly what death is .

So what can b done to make this corpse come to live? Scripture said " God breath into his Nostrils the breath of life' ! Wow ! It works , the corpse come to live and its brain start working .

Who is Adam, Is it The man made of dust or the breath of life ? . That dusty item is Adam and all of us . While the power that transform him to live is the breath of life .

Can you now see the different between the living and the dead ? One has lost the breath of life , while the other still have it

DJ2HOT:
And your point is? .......op!!!

Whenever you preach that jesus has a human body in heaven , the original post is the picture you are painting about him .

EroticAngelina:
wat r u saying?

Thats what happen if Jesus still have his human body ( mouth, and intestines ) in heaven .

Do you also belive he has his human body in heaven ?

" If Jesus had his body of flesh in heaven , then it means he had the entire digestive system . Mouth , lungs , intestines .

And according to Luke 22:29,30 : Jesus promise his disciples that they will eat and drink in his kingdom , " that means his apostles will have the same body of flesh with him , to be able to eat and drink .

If you eat , wont you excrete . Yes you would , Even Jesus himself said " anyone that puts food into his mouth, must surely go to the toilet and excrete ( matthew 15:17) ' . That means Jesus will excrete and use the heavenly toilet .

Compare this with Elijahs statement at 1kings 18:27 .


NOTE : whenever you preach that Jesus has an human body in heaven , the post above is the picture you are painting about him .

EnlightenedSoul:
He truly thinks Muslim women are magically more acquiescent of infidelity due to the fact that a very small % of them live in polygamous homes, even if the likelihood of finding those homes to be "peaceful" is almost like finding a unicorn? Especially in Africa where its rather ironically the poor who tend to be polygamous, thereby compounding on their problems and creating a ripple effect of issues for their so-called families?

Good points ; Sister, mayb he has forgotten that one cant serve two masters . Its either u love one and hate the other and thats exactly what happen in polygamous homes thereby causing hatred , jealousy and bad mind .

@ OP , we men should ask ourselves : how would I feel if its my wife in marriage that cheats on me ? YES ! WE CANT TOLERATE IT

So , why do so to her and hurt her fragile heart ?

A singer said " if u see a woman, make you treat am better , if you treat her better , IT WILL BE BETTER FOR YOU" Her prayers will go a long way to help you in life . Thats the power of women .

Most importantly God , but Another reason why adultery is not an option is this : ask yourself : HOW will my kids feel if they know am sharing their mum with other women ? .. Thats a strong turning point .

EnlightenedSoul:
What an ignorant comment.

Very ignorant , muslim ladies of nwadays will do anything to stop their Alfa's (husband) from cheating on her . Funny enough they hate it when you quote chapters in the quran that allow a man to marry more than one wife .

Toks2008:
You be lawyer?

Because honestly you write like one but unfortunately i no comprehend at all abeg paraphrase am.

Bro you said adultery is wrong , and u think a woman can be happy and focus when she knows her man is sharing her with other ladies ? She cant .

Well, God is good ... Bible allow a married person to divorce when a partner commits adultery .

" Its still easy to remain friends with your Ex after the break-up, if there was no sex in the relationship but hard if u both hav done it " .. How true is this ?

misspicy:
More reason I dnt kip ex as friend

what if there is nothing like sex before you broke up ?

Since Jesus is God himself , let me insert God in place of Jesus and see the rubbish uv post

"" [b] Tjayjosh

If Jesus was God,
why did He call God "My God?"" This can definitely be a
confusing issue. It all goes back
to the "mystery" of the Trinity.
When Jesus God was on the cross, He
quoted Psalm 22 (Matthew
27:46; Mark 15:34). This was a
psalm of David, but it was a
Messianic prophecy as well. The
entire psalm contains remarkable
predictions by David concerning
the coming Messiah. So, one of
the reasons He God called God "my
God" was to fulfill the prophecy
of the psalm.
At the moment of His God death on
the cross, Christ God was
experiencing the abandonment
and despair that resulted from
the outpouring of divine wrath
upon the sin that He bore. This
was the price He paid to redeem
His church–all who would ever
believe in Him–and He paid it in
full. At the cross, Jesus God in His
humanity voluntarily surrendered
His will to the Father in order to
finish the task for which He came
into the world. In the same way,
He God voluntarily emptied Himself of
certain aspects of His deity when
He came to earth as a man. In
some way we can’t fully
understand, God the Father
turned away from God the Son
for that moment, and Jesus God died
a very lonely death.
(haaaa)


There are other places He God calls
God His God. In John 20:17 and
Revelation 3:2,12, Jesus God calls God
"My God." Why would God call
Himself "My God"? It has to do
with Christ's relationship to His
Father. Even though Christ is the
eternal God Himself incarnate, He God
is still a different person from the
Father. As a man and as man's
representative (Son of Man),

Jesus' God person was dependent on
the Father and, like us, looked to
the Father for strength, guidance,
wisdom, etc. Therefore, God the
Father was the God of Jesus. The
Father is the God of the Son God, but
it doesn't imply inferiority, only a
difference in roles.[/b] ""

Pure Rubbish .